EvoMuse Presents: TopMuscle™ (writeup)

anyone have any tips to really maximise specific area gains? like for example when mine comes in on chest days I plan to do 3-6 sets of push ups in the morning then doing my normal chest routine at night... just trying to really shape the chest.
 
@dsade this latest version with the phosphatidic acid carrier is the best version yet, with it being a thinner solution spreads better, absorbs faster and seems like nothing is really crashing out. Just a few days in using it but much overall experience so far than the versions before.
 
schizm said:
@dsade this latest version with the phosphatidic acid carrier is the best version yet, with it being a thinner solution spreads better, absorbs faster and seems like nothing is really crashing out. Just a few days in using it but much overall experience so far than the versions before.
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How much you using and how often?
 
schizm said:
@dsade this latest version with the phosphatidic acid carrier is the best version yet, with it being a thinner solution spreads better, absorbs faster and seems like nothing is really crashing out. Just a few days in using it but much overall experience so far than the versions before. Invalid Link Removed
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How is the smell with this version... I've used it in the past and loved the results. Thickness, smell, and time of application were my issues.
 
SwoleNation said:
How is the smell with this version... I've used it in the past and loved the results. Thickness, smell, and time of application were my issues.
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there is a post in this thread from bigsmall in 2018 saying a newer version just came out that doesnt smell. i took a chance and ordered it today, knowing how morbid my personal attempt to transdermally experiment with aRa went in the past; no joke, i had to trash a dress shirt after a second wash that was followed by soaking it in detergent and oxyclean for 3 days failed
 
thescience said:
there is a post in this thread from bigsmall in 2018 saying a newer version just came out that doesnt smell. i took a chance and ordered it today, knowing how morbid my personal attempt to transdermally experiment with aRa went in the past; no joke, i had to trash a dress shirt after a second wash that was followed by soaking it in detergent and oxyclean for 3 days failed
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Ara stinks. Smells like rancid chicken fat.
 
SwoleNation said:
How is the smell with this version... I've used it in the past and loved the results. Thickness, smell, and time of application were my issues.
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It's thinner more like androLO, not as brown or thick as previous versions, not as smelly either, so def worth a try with this version. I'll be picking up a couple more bottles at least.
 
thescience said:
there is a post in this thread from bigsmall in 2018 saying a newer version just came out that doesnt smell. i took a chance and ordered it today, knowing how morbid my personal attempt to transdermally experiment with aRa went in the past; no joke, i had to trash a dress shirt after a second wash that was followed by soaking it in detergent and oxyclean for 3 days failed
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I had the exact same issue with TopMuscle in that I had a lot of clothes ruined by the smell of the product. I really enjoyed the results but I found that it was impossible to fully remove the smell from myself or my clothing, and sweating after a shower would release the product from my pores into my clothing.
 
max silver said:
I had the exact same issue with TopMuscle in that I had a lot of clothes ruined by the smell of the product. I really enjoyed the results but I found that it was impossible to fully remove the smell from myself or my clothing, and sweating after a shower would release the product from my pores into my clothing.
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the unrelenting smell has to be solely from the ArA. and yet, im confused as to why everyone isnt talking about ruined clothing. when i used ArA alone, i was using what must be a exponentially larger dose so ill be running some tests. Im in as much of a corporate work environment as anyone could imagine. I can schedule stench lasting a few hours, but one lasting days? id be fishfood
 
chainsaw said:
How does it compare to regular ara?
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I mean, it's more than just ARA and then dosage of it is far less than orally taking 1gram (or more) of ARA/X-gels, so a bit difficult to compare provides a full solid pump and fullness. I don't get any soreness (even using x gels) that many get when using ARA, but dosage of it is far less and I am only using it 1x/day, so ymmv. That didn't answer your question, lol sorry man.
I did recently add in 3 X-gels preWO for kicks and have really been enjoying that, even better pump/fullness
 
I can’t tolerate oral ARA, but love top muscle. I don’t know what the big deal is, I already have cloths I use for the gym only anyhow and they are black in color. Never noticed a smell after washing. I use top along with Androlo twice a week.
 
ok so it sounds like people are saying the smell comes out. I know there are different extracts of ara and maybe a more refined one reduces the perma-smelly portion? also, again i was using alot of ara alone when i had to trash the shirt, and as someone who has taken alot of ingredients transdermally with rose-scented dmso, i have found the perma-stench to be very unique to ara. how soon are people seeing pumps from this?
 
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thescience said:
ok so it sounds like people are saying the smell comes out. I know there are different extracts of ara and maybe a more refined one reduces the perma-smelly portion? also, again i was using alot of ara alone when i had to trash the shirt, and as someone who has taken alot of ingredients transdermally with rose-scented dmso, i have found the perma-stench to be very unique to ara. how soon are people seeing pumps from this?
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I apply 5 minutes before working out and get an immediate pump and increased performance I would not otherwise get.
 
thescience said:
ok so it sounds like people are saying the smell comes out. I know there are different extracts of ara and maybe a more refined one reduces the perma-smelly portion? also, again i was using alot of ara alone when i had to trash the shirt, and as someone who has taken alot of ingredients transdermally with rose-scented dmso, i have found the perma-stench to be very unique to ara. how soon are people seeing pumps from this?
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The secret is in the carrier that allows for deep penetration into the muscles. Rather than lingering on or near the surface of the skin, it is fully absorbed - therefore the smell is dramatically reduced.
 
ReformedNerd said:
Nice!

Do you apply to legs and all or limit to certain muscles?
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I have been using for about 4 years on upper body twice a week. I have massive legs (I m a powerlifter), but have gone through a couple of shoulder surgeries (both sides) over the past three years. So I have been using it mainly to bring up lagging body parts and give those areas more performance and recovery.
 
I mostly use on arms and shoulders and the pump is always unreal. About to start my first new bottle with the new carrier
 
If combining AndroLo with TopMuscle, I would assume I should apply AndroLo first, wait a minute or two, and then apply TopMuscle to the same area?
 
BigGame84 said:
If combining AndroLo with TopMuscle, I would assume I should apply AndroLo first, wait a minute or two, and then apply TopMuscle to the same area?
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You would do the opposite. Though AndroLo absorbs more quickly, the carrier is designed in different phases, one of which stops in the Dermal layer. This would hinder absorption of the TopMuscle.
 
dsade said:
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You would do the opposite. Though AndroLo absorbs more quickly, the carrier is designed in different phases, one of which stops in the Dermal layer. This would hinder absorption of the TopMuscle.
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Ok, thanks for letting me know. Just ordered 1 bottle of each on the site with the sale code.
 
I have an update coming in the next few days and will have more stock of the new version using the Phosphatidic Acid Liposomal carrier. Should be a nice light color with rapid absorption.
 
dsade said:
I have an update coming in the next few days and will have more stock of the new version using the Phosphatidic Acid Liposomal carrier. Should be a nice light color with rapid absorption.
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Solid, What all are you keeping in it?
 
schizm said:
Solid, What all are you keeping in it?
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I took out the herbal stuff and upgraded to a 98% ursolic acid. This should be a lot cleaner and easier to use.
 
negus215 said:
What is the smell like on the new version?
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Should be pretty mild. The ArA is still in it, so there will be a little odor.

The liposomes also reduce the odor.
 
Updated profile (from EvoMuse site, beta's are ready):

*Upgraded carrier to be high-potency Phosphatidic Acid Liposome based, for increased muscle growth

Not in order of dosage:

Apigenin 98%, Genistein 98%, Bakuchiol, Linalool, Stearoyl Vanillylamide, Betulinic Acid-Ascorbic Acid Co-crystals, Propionyl-L-Carnitine, Andrographolides 98%, Epicatechin, MSM (new), Arachidonic Acid, Escin, Ethyl Pyruvate, Alpha-Terpineol, 98% Ursolic Acid, Ligustrazine, Sesamol, Benzyl Nicotinate, 98% Myricetin, 90% Phosphatidic Acid, carbomer, phytosterols, isopropyl alcohol, benzyl alcohol
 
dsade said:
I took out the herbal stuff and upgraded to a 98% ursolic acid. This should be a lot cleaner and easier to use.
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Did you put Ursolic acid back into it with this version? I swear I wasn't seeing it listed on the profile with these last few upgrades you've done over the last year or so
 
schizm said:
Did you put Ursolic acid back into it with this version? I swear I wasn't seeing it listed on the profile with these last few upgrades you've done over the last year or so
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Upgraded to 98% Ursolic
 
dsade said:
I took out the herbal stuff and upgraded to a 98% ursolic acid. This should be a lot cleaner and easier to use.
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Will this have a decent enough dose, that will enable me to stop using a standalone topical Ursolic Acid product? Thanks!
 
AndroRage said:
Will this have a decent enough dose, that will enable me to stop using a standalone topical Ursolic Acid product? Thanks!
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If you're using even two pumps of a standalone UA topical I highly doubt TM being a multi ingredient profile it would have the ability to have a comparable amt of UA in it to that of a standalone topical UA product, imo.
 
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dsade said:
Upgraded to 98% Ursolic
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Have used twice so far, BEST version yet, Matt,! love the color and thickness being closer to androLO, spreads nicely and dries fast and def brings the dense and full pump with it.
Not sure just yet if just from the mental aspect of the intense pump or if something in it is contributing physiologically but seems to enhance the stim effect from my pre-workout, have felt more amped up with more foreceful muscle contractions today and yesterday
 
1st time trying for me. 1 pump is quite a lot have a good amount of surface area to cover and noticed a little tacky afterwards. Anyone care to share application tips?

Muscles feel great looking forward to this two bottle run
 
AndroRage said:
Will this have a decent enough dose, that will enable me to stop using a standalone topical Ursolic Acid product? Thanks!
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This is more of a localized topical. I'd wager that the ursolic acid topical you are utilizing is intended to be more of a systemic type of delivery so this wouldn't likely be a suitable replacement.
 
dsade said:
Upgraded to 98% Ursolic
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Push day. Applied 2 pumps spread over chest shoulders and triceps. Huge pump, to the point that couldn't do more than 6 reps. Felt like chest was in my chin. Pump lasted about 1.5 hours after working out. I take agmatine and cialis as a pre workout so I may be cutting these out because pumps were that significant. Also rest of the day muscles had that deep soreness associated with ARA, so I like that, and plus side is no headaches as with taking ARA orally.
 
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