Hyde’s Strength Odyssey

Good call on that one…..you have to be able to eat. Yeah Tren was a love hate relationship for me. Loved the amazing transformations in physique, strength, power, and gym aggression, but hated the sides, for me, sometimes too aggressive, terrible insomnia, kills appetite, and blood pressure increases that are just too hard to control. You still have plenty of juice on board, especially with the Trest and Anadrol, to accomplish your goal.👍💪
 
Good call on that one…..you have to be able to eat. Yeah Tren was a love hate relationship for me. Loved the amazing transformations in physique, strength, power, and gym aggression, but hated the sides, for me, sometimes too aggressive, terrible insomnia, kills appetite, and blood pressure increases that are just too hard to control. You still have plenty of juice on board, especially with the Trest and Anadrol, to accomplish your goal.

And I won’t ever be taking the Anadrol daily, just 1-2x a week pre-bench. It also kills my appetite, but I can work with 1-2 days per week.
 
12/17/23 - Day 25
BW 260.0

Deadlift, Ohio deadlift bar
45x10
135x5
225,315,365x3
+belt
405x1
425x5

Only 2 meals again yesterday, but appetite is improving now. I wasn’t planning on lifting today at all after losing 7lbs in 2 days. COVID test was negative, and I had a big McDonalds breakfast to help fill back out. Then I wanted to test out 50mg of Test Suspension from a new source (which was extremely smooth, zero PIP surprisingly). So by the afternoon I was feeling pretty darn good.

Went out in the garage in my house slippers to pull a set of 5 at 425, since that weight felt so heavy 3 weeks ago - bet I could have done 10! Not exactly intense training, but it was the right job for the day.
 
12/17/23 - Day 25
BW 260.0

Deadlift, Ohio deadlift bar
45x10
135x5
225,315,365x3
+belt
405x1
425x5

Only 2 meals again yesterday, but appetite is improving now. I wasn’t planning on lifting today at all after losing 7lbs in 2 days. COVID test was negative, and I had a big McDonalds breakfast to help fill back out. Then I wanted to test out 50mg of Test Suspension from a new source (which was extremely smooth, zero PIP surprisingly). So by the afternoon I was feeling pretty darn good.

Went out in the garage in my house slippers to pull a set of 5 at 425, since that weight felt so heavy 3 weeks ago - bet I could have done 10! Not exactly intense training, but it was the right job for the day.
Hell yes, in the garage at home with house slippers on!

hopefully with the dropping of the compound your appetite rebounds. I’m sure it will and you get the lbs back quick.
 
12/17/23 - Day 25
BW 260.0

Deadlift, Ohio deadlift bar
45x10
135x5
225,315,365x3
+belt
405x1
425x5

Only 2 meals again yesterday, but appetite is improving now. I wasn’t planning on lifting today at all after losing 7lbs in 2 days. COVID test was negative, and I had a big McDonalds breakfast to help fill back out. Then I wanted to test out 50mg of Test Suspension from a new source (which was extremely smooth, zero PIP surprisingly). So by the afternoon I was feeling pretty darn good.

Went out in the garage in my house slippers to pull a set of 5 at 425, since that weight felt so heavy 3 weeks ago - bet I could have done 10! Not exactly intense training, but it was the right job for the day.
McGriddle?
 
Hell yes, in the garage at home with house slippers on!

hopefully with the dropping of the compound your appetite rebounds. I’m sure it will and you get the lbs back quick.

It wasn’t really training, just something fun I wanted to do on my Sunday afternoon! Short & sweet.

McGriddle?

2 McGriddles, a Sausage Egg McMuffin, Large Coke, a pancake & part of my stepdaughters McGriddle.

Keeping sugary makes it easier to get more calories in. Probably ~1,850 calories with some of the syrup .
 
Love the McGriddle w a hash brown in it. Or a double cheese w a hash brown

I like the hash browns but I never get them anymore; they’re a total rip off and the grease tends to make me feel bad (and when you can eat 2k McDonalds and otherwise not feel bad, that says something lol).

This morning while working at home I cooked up some sausage patties, made gravy with the grease & Fairlife, and baked crescents. Basically had biscuits & gravy with 5 sausage patties and a bunch of orange juice. I’m trying to put in the calories!
 
12/18/23 - Day 26
BW 263.4

Getting back to business. Serratus drills from my performance doc, & time, seem to be improving things on that front, so looking to do an easy/deload bench day tomorrow making up all of the work I missed Friday if it feels okay.

Var from new source tested pure today, so that’s a big win. If things like that, halotestin, or primobolan are testing legit, you can generally expect the other cheaper products to be on the money as well. And on that note, I finished off the last big shot of that vial of primo I was using up. So I may substitute in something else next week.
 
I like the hash browns but I never get them anymore; they’re a total rip off and the grease tends to make me feel bad (and when you can eat 2k McDonalds and otherwise not feel bad, that says something lol).

This morning while working at home I cooked up some sausage patties, made gravy with the grease & Fairlife, and baked crescents. Basically had biscuits & gravy with 5 sausage patties and a bunch of orange juice. I’m trying to put in the calories!
I just ate dinner and that made me hungry all over again.
 
WHEW BOY! Biscuits, and gravy, with sausage. Now that is living it up! Hopefully you were able to enjoy it too!
 
WHEW BOY! Biscuits, and gravy, with sausage. Now that is living it up! Hopefully you were able to enjoy it too!

It was pretty good. Put too much flour in the gravy and it was too thick, but better than too runny. Appetite seems to be improving since dropping the Tren.
 
12/19/23 - Day 27
BW 269.4 post-training

Serratus Activations
Miniband Pullaparts
2x33
Band Warmups

Bench
45,45,135,201,245x8
285x5
315x3

NG Chins
4x12

DB Laterals
30x12
35x10

Seated DB Rear Delt Raises
20x15
30 2x15

DB Incline
40,50x25

Incline DB Williams Extensions
30,35x15

V-bar Cable Tri Pressdown
50x15+25

Kept it easy today. Just did my standard bench warmup to stay sharp, then shut it down. Felt my serratus on the last rep of 285 lowering the bar too fast - the impact made it hurt. Took a liftoff for 315 and did it extremely tight & slow to be safe. Felt that doing reps would be riskiest, feeling discomfort trying to clean even super light dbs for pressing, so I avoided more pressing and just did whatever felt safe.

Pretty happy to be busting out sets of 12 on chin-ups now weighing 270lbs with clothes on in training; it’s a lot easier getting to hit them fresh!
 
Dude, 12 reps @ 270 on chins is pretty fuggin awesome!!! What type of serratus activation does he have you doing?
 
Dude, 12 reps @ 270 on chins is pretty fuggin awesome!!! What type of serratus activation does he have you doing?

Doubled microband or a Miniband in hand, elbows tucked against belly & forearms held parallel to the floor with the band held tense about a foot apart (so wrists are in line with elbows). Rotate thumbs up to tension band, then back to facing one another for 30 reps, then a 30 second hold of thumbs up.

Then move forearms to 45* angle from floor with elbows at top of belly, immediately repeat 30 reps + 30 sec iso. Then finally immediately go to elbows raised up but below shoulder level, forearms 90* to floor, 30 more reps + 30 sec iso.

That’s the full rehab drill I’ve been doing 1-2x a day. For activation today I skipped the isos and lowered reps on the elevated/harder positions. Just got it firing more mindfully before starting.
 
Doubled microband or a Miniband in hand, elbows tucked against belly & forearms held parallel to the floor with the band held tense about a foot apart (so wrists are in line with elbows). Rotate thumbs up to tension band, then back to facing one another for 30 reps, then a 30 second hold of thumbs up.

Then move forearms to 45* angle from floor with elbows at top of belly, immediately repeat 30 reps + 30 sec iso. Then finally immediately go to elbows raised up but below shoulder level, forearms 90* to floor, 30 more reps + 30 sec iso.

That’s the full rehab drill I’ve been doing 1-2x a day. For activation today I skipped the isos and lowered reps on the elevated/harder positions. Just got it firing more mindfully before starting.
It is always so interesting to me how they can target muscles so specifically once they learn the correct movement patterns to use. Stand on one foot, with your right pinky sticking out and you get the (insert odd muscle here) to fire in isolation.
 
It is always so interesting to me how they can target muscles so specifically once they learn the correct movement patterns to use. Stand on one foot, with your right pinky sticking out and you get the (insert odd muscle here) to fire in isolation.

It’s crazy, and how I knew he was right diagnosing it after the strain. Immediately lit it up in isolation. The guy knows some stuff, no doubt.

As an aside, I got a bottle of injectable Dbol (25mg/ml) from the new source since it was $25 and oral Dbol always destroys my gut immediately. Took 20mg along with my 25mg Trest Ace this morning as an experiment, and so far no issues with appetite, bloating, or heartburn the way oral Dbol always does. So this could be pretty sweet - going to keep taking it for a minute and see what happens.
 
Man, 4x12 on pull-ups at 270 lbs is extremely impressive.
I’m curious what you think about injectable Dbol. If you still get the feel good effect with less bloating, appetite and blood pressure issues, that’s one oral that may be worth it as an injectable.
 
Man, 4x12 on pull-ups at 270 lbs is extremely impressive.
I’m curious what you think about injectable Dbol. If you still get the feel good effect with less bloating, appetite and blood pressure issues, that’s one oral that may be worth it as an injectable.

Yeah I mean on paper I can see someone would say, why not just up the trestolone instead of stacking Dbol on? But in my case this is just a decent time to test it for future knowledge. HDL is already bad, liver is very well-supported, and I am looking for more size/weight/bloat.

I’ve heard it’s more potent per mg than oral. Felt just fine this morning, so nothing negative to say yet.
 
Yeah I mean on paper I can see someone would say, why not just up the trestolone instead of stacking Dbol on? But in my case this is just a decent time to test it for future knowledge. HDL is already bad, liver is very well-supported, and I am looking for more size/weight/bloat.

I’ve heard it’s more potent per mg than oral. Felt just fine this morning, so nothing negative to say yet.
Yeah that’s what I heard as well, that injectable Dbol was more potent. The only injectable oral I’ve tried was Superdrol, and the injectable really didn’t seem as strong as the oral with that one. The sides weren’t as bad, but to be honest it was more expensive than oral, with my source that had it, so it just wasn’t worth it. I was actually disappointed, because back in the day I loved oral Superdrol, but now at my age the sides are just too bad and not worth it.
 
12/21/23 - Day 29
BW 263.0

No training again yesterday, had to get up at 5:30 and drive 400 miles to take my dad to a consultation with his heart surgeon. Good news is his the elective surgery to repair his aneurysm is about twice as likely to kill him as the actual odds chance of it bursting, so he doesn’t need to worry about surgery & doc just wants him to be more active to increase his fitness.

I was totally bushed by the time I had an opportunity to go squat late last night, so I didn’t see the point in doing bullshit quality work that could also just take away from my recovery for bench. Went to sleep as soon as I put my son down instead.

Serratus is feeling a bit better during my activation drills, so hoping things feel stable during heavy bench tomorrow. Today is 3rd day of 20mg Dbol IM along with my 25mg Trest Ace, and took 90mg test e today as well.
 
All good news other than missing the session but for a damn good reason that ended up very positive.
 
Ending the day at 272.8lbs. I don’t track evening weights because they’re not a good indicator of much besides hydration, but that is a scale PR.

Attempting heavy bench in the morning; cross your fingers the serratus holds up for me 🤞
 
12/21/23 - Day 29
BW 263.0

No training again yesterday, had to get up at 5:30 and drive 400 miles to take my dad to a consultation with his heart surgeon. Good news is his the elective surgery to repair his aneurysm is about twice as likely to kill him as the actual odds chance of it bursting, so he doesn’t need to worry about surgery & doc just wants him to be more active to increase his fitness.

I was totally bushed by the time I had an opportunity to go squat late last night, so I didn’t see the point in doing bullshit quality work that could also just take away from my recovery for bench. Went to sleep as soon as I put my son down instead.

Serratus is feeling a bit better during my activation drills, so hoping things feel stable during heavy bench tomorrow. Today is 3rd day of 20mg Dbol IM along with my 25mg Trest Ace, and took 90mg test e today as well.

Glad it’s low risk for your pops. You gonna set him up with a little activity log to get his blood flowing at all?
 
Glad it’s low risk for your pops. You gonna set him up with a little activity log to get his blood flowing at all?

I explained to him that every day he should walk the inside of his assisted living complex, his end to the far end, every single day. As soon as that feels too easy, start adding half or whole laps/trips. Just progressively increasing the daily distance as you please, when it suits you. If the baseline of daily/weekly volume is increasing, so is your capacity.

But he’s kind of your basic American who knows damn well what they need to do, they just don’t execute. You can only lead a horse to water. I don’t lose any sleep over it anymore. It is remarkable to me that he’s still alive at 74, being obese & sedentary his entire life and was an alcoholic for over 20 years. Modern medicine is incredible.
 
12/22/23 - Day 30
BW 268.6 post-training

Serratus Activation
Miniband Pullaparts
2x25
Band Warmups

Bench
45,135,201x8
245x6
285x5
320x3
350,365,370x1
320 2x5

Spoto Press
300,305x5
310x3

Push-ups
BWx50+15

Bench is really starting to feel dialed in, and serratus didn’t have any close scares today. I did take a liftoff for everything over 285 to be safe. Took 50mg Anadrol 2 hours pre & 100mg Test Suspension 1 hour pre for today’s anabolics. Benched 29 total reps at 300+ today. 370 is 91% of 405, so it was great that felt so smooth right now.

“Why delay or complicate
The gravity of my persuasion?
Look into that part of you -
I AM YOU WITHOUT HESITATION!”

-My Name is Allen, Stone Sour
 
Wow that’s some nice bench work and getting closer! Curious, how much do you think you are going to weigh to hit the 405?
 
Wow that’s some nice bench work and getting closer! Curious, how much do you think you are going to weigh to hit the 405?

I would really like to get up to about 273lbs morning weight, but the reality is I’ve never managed to get over 267 consistently, so that will be tough to pull off.

I don’t really have any personal rules as far as keeping my weight under X lbs or only take X amount of drugs, but the truth is there’s no way I will exceed 275. Plus, if I am not gaining weight, I need more calories, so adding more drugs could work against me after a point.
 
Thank you sir, and glad to see you. Always happy for feedback, commentary, and just to have guys talking lifting in here.

Glad your dad doesn’t need surgery. The Sunday before Thanksgiving my dad collapsed in his backyard near his storage building. My 28 year old daughter just happened to be with him. When he hit the ground he was gone. No pulse and not breathing. She yelled for my mom and instantly started CPR. Thank God my daughter is a CNA. My mom called 911 and helped with CPR also until fire and EMS arrived. After nearly 40 minutes of CPR, 4 shocks with an AED, 5 days in ICU on a ventilator and medically induced coma, and 7 broken ribs, he’s doing pretty good. He stayed in the hospital for almost 2 weeks. He’s still sore and weak but all in all he’s good for now. I thought I was going to lose my dad that day but thank God he’s still got time here. Enjoy your time with your dad! Merry Christmas to you and your family @Hyde!
 
Well, I just melted an entire stick of butter for the first time ever into a bag of instant mashed potatoes, alongside a 1lb boneless ribeye, for my last meal today; ~2,700 calories.

People can think whatever they want about me, but don’t ever let them say I didn’t try.
 
12/22/23 - Day 30
BW 268.6 post-training

Serratus Activation
Miniband Pullaparts
2x25
Band Warmups

Bench
45,135,201x8
245x6
285x5
320x3
350,365,370x1
320 2x5

Spoto Press
300,305x5
310x3

Push-ups
BWx50+15

Bench is really starting to feel dialed in, and serratus didn’t have any close scares today. I did take a liftoff for everything over 285 to be safe. Took 50mg Anadrol 2 hours pre & 100mg Test Suspension 1 hour pre for today’s anabolics. Benched 29 total reps at 300+ today. 370 is 91% of 405, so it was great that felt so smooth right now.

“Why delay or complicate
The gravity of my persuasion?
Look into that part of you -
I AM YOU WITHOUT HESITATION!”

-My Name is Allen, Stone Sour
Glad your Dad didn’t need surgery, and hopefully he will listen to you and take the walks. When someone has been sedentary, walking as much as possible really does help the heart, hopefully he can stick to it and progress weekly. Glad to see your serratus is improving…..you are really close to that 405 bench, with the volume you did leading up to and the 350, 365, and 370 singles all going so smoothly, you are very close.💪
 
I explained to him that every day he should walk the inside of his assisted living complex, his end to the far end, every single day. As soon as that feels too easy, start adding half or whole laps/trips. Just progressively increasing the daily distance as you please, when it suits you. If the baseline of daily/weekly volume is increasing, so is your capacity.

But he’s kind of your basic American who knows damn well what they need to do, they just don’t execute. You can only lead a horse to water. I don’t lose any sleep over it anymore. It is remarkable to me that he’s still alive at 74, being obese & sedentary his entire life and was an alcoholic for over 20 years. Modern medicine is incredible.

That generation, very stubborn, set in their ways... My Ma is 80, still drives (yikes) runs around town like a maniac, shopping, cooking, just got herself a new partment, etc. But her knee replacement and back surgery are bothering her more, she said when she walks it feels better for days.
Then she wont walk, and will be limping a bit... I told her the same thing, walk down this nice long hallway (in her complex) each day a few times back and forth (literally 5 mins) to loosen up. Of course ignores it until it gets bad, and only then "remembers" what I told her...
 
Glad your Dad didn’t need surgery, and hopefully he will listen to you and take the walks. When someone has been sedentary, walking as much as possible really does help the heart, hopefully he can stick to it and progress weekly. Glad to see your serratus is improving…..you are really close to that 405 bench, with the volume you did leading up to and the 350, 365, and 370 singles all going so smoothly, you are very close.

Thanks guys! Right now the program has me taking 360/370/380 on the heavy day next week, then 360/380/405 the week after. Depending on how 380 goes will determine if I stay at that pace or add an extra deload session before 405 (there’s already one, but that’s only half a week).

That generation, very stubborn, set in their ways... My Ma is 80, still drives (yikes) runs around town like a maniac, shopping, cooking, just got herself a new partment, etc. But her knee replacement and back surgery are bothering her more, she said when she walks it feels better for days.
Then she wont walk, and will be limping a bit... I told her the same thing, walk down this nice long hallway (in her complex) each day a few times back and forth (literally 5 mins) to loosen up. Of course ignores it until it gets bad, and only then "remembers" what I told her...

They really are, sounds just like him. I don’t know if it’s a generational thing or an elderly thing or even coincidence, but there seems to be a lot of people wanting their cake and eating it too. Life is doing things every single day you don’t want to do, because the alternative is worse.
 
Anabolic plan I am settling into is 100mg Test Suspension & 50mg Adrol on bench days, 30mg Trest Ace & 20mg IM Dbol every other day, and I have been throwing 90mg test e in every ~5 days. Final weekly shot of Primo E was 400mg last Sunday, so I will probably be throwing in some old opened Test Prop as well to kill off the vial, & will add Nolva if estrogen necessitates to keep the water weight up. I have not needed ANY AI this entire run besides a single dose of Exem the first week before primo built up. Just using DIM, Zinc, Grape seed extract.
 
Anabolic plan I am settling into is 100mg Test Suspension & 50mg Adrol on bench days, 30mg Trest Ace & 20mg IM Dbol every other day, and I have been throwing 90mg test e in every ~5 days. Final weekly shot of Primo E was 400mg last Sunday, so I will probably be throwing in some old opened Test Prop as well to kill off the vial, & will add Nolva if estrogen necessitates to keep the water weight up. I have not needed ANY AI this entire run besides a single dose of Exem the first week before primo built up. Just using DIM, Zinc, Grape seed extract.
That’s pretty amazing that you haven’t needed an AI with Trest being in the cycle the whole time. That’s more proof of the AI effects of Primo. I know DIM helps, but part of the reason I try to add Mast or Primo to a cycle with Trest is the AI benefits and the synergy is really good with those compounds. I usually don’t need an AI either when I add Mast or Primo to Trest and Test. Are you taking any P5P? Can you tell a big difference in the injectable Dbol compared to oral with the benefits as well as sides?
I’ve enjoyed following this push with the Predator workout to push your bench max beyond 405, but I’ve also enjoyed just as much following your cycle and the experiment of running the different compounds together throughout. I appreciate the details of all your decisions on the compounds as much as the workouts. You may bench closer to 415 by the time you’re finished. 💪
 
Agreed, impressive you haven't needed one.
 
That’s pretty amazing that you haven’t needed an AI with Trest being in the cycle the whole time. That’s more proof of the AI effects of Primo. I know DIM helps, but part of the reason I try to add Mast or Primo to a cycle with Trest is the AI benefits and the synergy is really good with those compounds. I usually don’t need an AI either when I add Mast or Primo to Trest and Test. Are you taking any P5P? Can you tell a big difference in the injectable Dbol compared to oral with the benefits as well as sides?
I’ve enjoyed following this push with the Predator workout to push your bench max beyond 405, but I’ve also enjoyed just as much following your cycle and the experiment of running the different compounds together throughout. I appreciate the details of all your decisions on the compounds as much as the workouts. You may bench closer to 415 by the time you’re finished.

Today is only day 5 of actually pinning 20mg Dbol, I believe 7 days have passed since beginning it.

So far, I would say it’s probably less wet (what you’d generally expect from an injectable preparation of an oral), which means it hasn’t made my bp shoot up or anything noticeably. Honestly I haven’t noticed any sides really. Feeling good on it and continuing to get stronger.

I just had to begin taking Famotidine finally last night for heartburn, but recall I was using 20mg Tren Ace for a couple weeks previously before swapping to the IM Dbol, so either of those would be deteriorating my gut biome/promoting acid reflux over time anyway - and you absolutely have to factor the ridiculous diet. I mean eating a stick of butter with a ribeye right before bed, what else would you expect. But I haven’t gotten the indigestion, the terrible gut distention and inability to eat or move food that Dbol specifically gives me immediately. So this is a big win, as far as being an option if I do want to use Dbol again since oral is a no-go for me. I know Ryan Kennelly was a big fan of injectable Dbol before PR attempts.

I am taking ~300mg P5P twice a day, and 200mg DIM 1-2x a day to help clearance rates of the methyl estrogen. I am getting a lot of acne between the trest, Dbol, & diet, but not cystic that will leave bad scars the way Tren & Var can do to me, just lots of little whiteheads. But I want the bloat right now for leverage and protection; my wife is always on board for my cycle sides as long as I am not biting her head off.

Agreed, impressive you haven't needed one.

I think I am going to pop a bottle of Mast Prop this week to take over for the primo to finish out the run since that’s been working well. Not looking forward to adding another cc eod, but it’s not a long time left to manage the pinning.
 
12/24/23 - Day 32
BW 267.4

SSB Squat
65,65,155,245,335x5
+belt
425,475x5 PR

Deadlift, Texas dl bar
135,225x5
315,365x3
+belt
405x1
440x6

Widegrip Lat Pulldown
60,100x12
130,150x15
160,170x10
170x8

Rolling EZBar Tri Extensions
+20x15
+70 2x18

HS CSR, low wide grip
135/side 2x15

Did a little Christmas Eve powerlifting - turns out when you don’t squat/train legs for 2 weeks, you feel incredible. Knees have been feeling better than in ages. I was able to just get under the bar & get to it with no other BS. Didn’t plan that rep PR or any of the squat; I just worked up to a tough set of 5 for the day - definitely more in the tank.

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Great work... I notice some time away makes the body happy.
Repair, get strong...
Been trying myself to SQ heavy one week, and DL heavy the next (alternating).
Rather than heavy for both in the same week... Anyways, nice job Hyde..
 
12/24/23 - Day 32
BW 267.4

SSB Squat
65,65,155,245,335x5
+belt
425,475x5 PR

Deadlift, Texas dl bar
135,225x5
315,365x3
+belt
405x1
440x6

Widegrip Lat Pulldown
60,100x12
130,150x15
160,170x10
170x8

Rolling EZBar Tri Extensions
+20x15
+70 2x18

HS CSR, low wide grip
135/side 2x15

Did a little Christmas Eve powerlifting - turns out when you don’t squat/train legs for 2 weeks, you feel incredible. Knees have been feeling better than in ages. I was able to just get under the bar & get to it with no other BS. Didn’t plan that rep PR or any of the squat; I just worked up to a tough set of 5 for the day - definitely more in the tank.

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Man that’s a powerful Christmas Eve workout. Congratulations on the squat PR…..shoulders and traps looking huge.💪
Merry Christmas to you and your family.🏆
 
Merry Christmas Everyone! Looking HYUGE Brother! From the back you wear your weight well, just looking phucking strong!!!!

Also congrats on that PR!!! Big stuff there and to do so with plenty in the tank. Well done Sir!
 
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