The dissapearing man

I don't listen to vigorous steves podcast like I used to but I did today. And someone's question was can I use enclo As a test base for my anavar only cycle. And his response to that question was the absolute best one I've heard yet. He said can you? Yes you can, if you're a beta cuck bitch!
That is golden
 
I don't listen to vigorous steves podcast like I used to but I did today. And someone's question was can I use enclo As a test base for my anavar only cycle. And his response to that question was the absolute best one I've heard yet. He said can you? Yes you can, if you're a beta cuck bitch!
I pin twice...now it is like breathing.
 
I don't listen to vigorous steves podcast like I used to but I did today. And someone's question was can I use enclo As a test base for my anavar only cycle. And his response to that question was the absolute best one I've heard yet. He said can you? Yes you can, if you're a beta cuck bitch!
Lol!!! Oh yea forgot to tell you on his newest one that's about epo he brings up methylene blue for a little bit. Not too far into the video forgot to get the time stamp for you
 
I don't listen to vigorous steves podcast like I used to but I did today. And someone's question was can I use enclo As a test base for my anavar only cycle. And his response to that question was the absolute best one I've heard yet. He said can you? Yes you can, if you're a beta cuck bitch!

As someone who loves Anavar, I can only say that the men who want to do Var-only cycles are either totally delusional about what they can actually accomplish longterm with that approach, or their goals are so low they could probably just be reached naturally with a bit more patience.
 
As someone who loves Anavar, I can only say that the men who want to do Var-only cycles are either totally delusional about what they can actually accomplish longterm with that approach, or their goals are so low they could probably just be reached naturally with a bit more patience.
I concur on this....it is purely cosmetic window dressing.
 
So down to between 50 and 70g carbs pre and post training...that's it.😡 if hunter Labrada can do it I can sure as hell do it. Usually it's cream of rice pre and oatmeal post. Do you think I should switch those are just do cream if rice both times. John Jewett said oatmeal is okay pre because yea you may not digest it all for your session the fact that you can actually feel satiated will lead to a better workout. There's nothing worse than being hungry and trying to lift. Also I know I gotta cut the amount of time I'm doing weights because 50 minutes of stepmill I mandatory. Last night I had back and trus and tried to make a conscious effort to get it in an hour but I got into the workout and i didn't want to stop. So I ended up staying at the gym for 2 1/2 hours, there's no way I'm eating enough for that. Even with gear I don't think that's productive.
 
So down to between 50 and 70g carbs pre and post training...that's it. if hunter Labrada can do it I can sure as hell do it. Usually it's cream of rice pre and oatmeal post. Do you think I should switch those are just do cream if rice both times. John Jewett said oatmeal is okay pre because yea you may not digest it all for your session the fact that you can actually feel satiated will lead to a better workout. There's nothing worse than being hungry and trying to lift. Also I know I gotta cut the amount of time I'm doing weights because 50 minutes of stepmill I mandatory. Last night I had back and trus and tried to make a conscious effort to get it in an hour but I got into the workout and i didn't want to stop. So I ended up staying at the gym for 2 1/2 hours, there's no way I'm eating enough for that. Even with gear I don't think that's productive.

There’s not going to be a physique difference in your ability to get lean eating the same cals of cream of rice or oats, so eat whatever you feel best on. Oats can offer some fiber for better poops and are a bit more nutritious, but I still think you should go with what seems to keep you satisfied.

Insulin sensitivity is very high right now and food is low, so your gut isn’t going to get backed up and they’ll both burn well.
 
There’s not going to be a physique difference in your ability to get lean eating the same cals of cream of rice or oats, so eat whatever you feel best on. Oats can offer some fiber for better poops and are a bit more nutritious, but I still think you should go with what seems to keep you satisfied.

Insulin sensitivity is very high right now and food is low, so your gut isn’t going to get backed up and they’ll both burn well.
Okay that's what I figured I'll just keep it the sane scince I love both. Cream of rice pre and oatmeal post so I can go to sleep with ( somewhat) of a full stomach
 
Anyone got any ideas for me to make this thread more interesting? I'm aware trt and cutting isint very fun and the further along I get the more bland my food is gonna get.

I'm upping Ursa to 6 pumps daily and triton to 6 pumps pre workout and my plan is to go up to 7 or 8. I'm still trying to learn more about the ingredients. Triton I can see more being better and I think creatine would actually pair very well for more atp.

Ursolic acid on the other hand I don't know a ton about. @Renew1 you got any good reading material related to ursa/Ursolic Acid.

Also I'm gonna add a stimulant of some sort after my next calorie drop so suggestions are welcome. I'm leaning away from yohimbine because I'm not gonna be able to get fasted cardio in often unless I skip meal 1 every day. I already get up at 5am , I can't afford to loose another hour of sleep cuz my average lately is 6.5 hrs a night and a occasional nap after dinner for 30min
 
Dude last night I could only get to level 5 on the stepmill for 40 minutes and the last 10 o had to drop to level 3.
That sucks. I actually did a hour of cardio yesterday. After lifting with a bunch of supersets (we were short on time in the weights area) I ran 1.2 miles, jumped rope for 3 rounds, hit the bag for 3 rounds and did suitcase carries with a barbell 135lbs. Balancing it was the hardest part. Bit my endurance is awesome at the moment. Even on my low days. I'm sure by the time I'm down to 2000 cal or less I won't be singing the same tune tho
 
That sucks. I actually did a hour of cardio yesterday. After lifting with a bunch of supersets (we were short on time in the weights area) I ran 1.2 miles, jumped rope for 3 rounds, hit the bag for 3 rounds and did suitcase carries with a barbell 135lbs. Balancing it was the hardest part. Bit my endurance is awesome at the moment. Even on my low days. I'm sure by the time I'm down to 2000 cal or less I won't be singing the same tune tho
I'm guessing mine is because of the carb drop which is fine. AA fixed the zelle issue so I should have super shredder by next week. I ran out and can totally feel the difference. Mike hasn't gotten back to me about the cardarine. I emailed him the tiger day and let him know I zelled him money for the cardarine. Hopefully I hear from him today
 
That sucks. I actually did a hour of cardio yesterday. After lifting with a bunch of supersets (we were short on time in the weights area) I ran 1.2 miles, jumped rope for 3 rounds, hit the bag for 3 rounds and did suitcase carries with a barbell 135lbs. Balancing it was the hardest part. Bit my endurance is awesome at the moment. Even on my low days. I'm sure by the time I'm down to 2000 cal or less I won't be singing the same tune tho
Yea there's something about going below 2000 where your body is just like nope, not having this. It's probably mental for me just because everytimg is " based" on 2000 kcal
 
I'm guessing mine is because of the carb drop which is fine. AA fixed the zelle issue so I should have super shredder by next week. I ran out and can totally feel the difference. Mike hasn't gotten back to me about the cardarine. I emailed him the tiger day and let him know I zelled him money for the cardarine. Hopefully I hear from him today
If you don't then remind me and IL text him
 
Anyone got any ideas for me to make this thread more interesting? I'm aware trt and cutting isint very fun and the further along I get the more bland my food is gonna get.

I'm upping Ursa to 6 pumps daily and triton to 6 pumps pre workout and my plan is to go up to 7 or 8. I'm still trying to learn more about the ingredients. Triton I can see more being better and I think creatine would actually pair very well for more atp.

Ursolic acid on the other hand I don't know a ton about. @Renew1 you got any good reading material related to ursa/Ursolic Acid.

Also I'm gonna add a stimulant of some sort after my next calorie drop so suggestions are welcome. I'm leaning away from yohimbine because I'm not gonna be able to get fasted cardio in often unless I skip meal 1 every day. I already get up at 5am , I can't afford to loose another hour of sleep cuz my average lately is 6.5 hrs a night and a occasional nap after dinner for 30min

More interesting….? How about taking some break dancing lessons and posting weekly videos?
 
More interesting….? How about taking some break dancing lessons and posting weekly videos?
I don't have time, my free time is maxed out. And I already can break dance lol

Edit: I use to. My knees and ankles ain't taking that beating no more lol. I did a back handspring the other day on the wrestling mats and my life flashed before my eyes
 
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Honestly I think the log is plenty interesting seeing what you are capable of doing manipulating your body on TRT doses, hard work and good nutrition. If you want to add value then give some food prep tips for making batches of food taste better or something. Since you have a lot of culinary knowledge, but there's nothing boring about this log, or your progress in it.
 
Honestly I think the log is plenty interesting seeing what you are capable of doing manipulating your body on TRT doses, hard work and good nutrition. If you want to add value then give some food prep tips for making batches of food taste better or something. Since you have a lot of culinary knowledge, but there's nothing boring about this log, or your progress in it.
I actually just realized my vacation is only like 30 days away so I'm probably gonna make a few adjustments to my diet asap to speed up things a bit.
 
Honestly I think the log is plenty interesting seeing what you are capable of doing manipulating your body on TRT doses, hard work and good nutrition. If you want to add value then give some food prep tips for making batches of food taste better or something. Since you have a lot of culinary knowledge, but there's nothing boring about this log, or your progress in it.
Totally agree with kleen on this
 
Ursolic acid on the other hand I don't know a ton about. @Renew1 you got any good reading material related to ursa/Ursolic Acid.

Here's a nice write-up. And there's others out there...
But for me .... The clearest sign of it doing what most people are looking for, is the feedback from board members.
This product is Crazy Popular.
I remember when Apex released it, and it sold out Fast. .... And then sold out Fast again.
... Then we were getting ready to run a Sale, and Nos commented that he had made an overabundance of it, because it had already gotten so Extremely popular.
.... And it Still sold out in 2 or 3 days! LOL.

It works at any dosage.... But guys notice an Incredible Effect at 2mls to 4mls per day.

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Here's a nice write-up. And there's others out there...
But for me .... The clearest sign of it doing what most people are looking for, is the feedback from board members.
This product is Crazy Popular.
I remember when Apex released it, and it sold out Fast. .... And then sold out Fast again.
... Then we were getting ready to run a Sale, and Nos commented that he had made an overabundance of it, because it had already gotten so Extremely popular.
.... And it Still sold out in 2 or 3 days! LOL.

It works at any dosage.... But guys notice an Incredible Effect at 2mls to 4mls per day.

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The time I used it, I felt like it was helping me increase my conditioning at a surprising rate. Also noticed lots of pumps & warmth after application.

No conprende senor

You’ll be the leanest corpse on vacation
 
Made adjustments last night and started my carb up so I could get a few high carb meals in before today's workouts. Unfortunately I didn't take any food pics so I apologized for that. I had a long week and I'm tired af lately but it's got nothing to do with cutting. I'm just working more and sleeping less.

I'm still having issues with the left knee, not terrible but I feel like any wrong move and I could get injured. I'm pumping a bottle of bpc/tb in it and I may mix in some hexaralin for shits and giggles just because I forgot I had 5 bottles and it shows benifits on paper for injuries and recovery so why not.

Today's workout is going to be different then I originally planned but I'm getting my bench work in first no matter what and we're gonna go from there. I'm not keen on squatting more then 185-200lbs on this knee so I may just save a set of 20 rep squats as the finisher to today's first workout.

Breakfast today was 900 cal. 70 pro, 110carb and a little more fat then I wanted and I'm capping my calories around 3000 today and tomorrow. During the week I'm going down to 2000 a day. I know I'm jumping ahead of myself a bit but my trends in weight this week were pretty much the same as last week (improved body composition tho) so I need a little more of a deficit. This will put my average cal intake at 2285cal/day I'm leaving in 29 days so exactly 4 weeks from tomorrow.

My goals for the next 4 weeks are simple. Do more! More sets, more volume, more cardio.

Edit: I never do front squats so I'm gonna go with front squats today for the main leg work. I cam probably get more out of light weights on a brand new exercise then a squat that I always do
 
Good first workout, flat bench 235×5 for 3 sets, dropped to 185×12.
Traditional deadlifts 185 for sets of 10 with 30sec rest between sets
Ohp 145×5 for 3 sets back off 95×12
Superset chins and front squats. Only went to 135 on front squats. I have a hard time keeping the bar in place and my wrist flexibility is terrible so I gotta work on that.

Post workout was a grilled chicken sandwich with cheese and like 10 asparagus spears, a few chunks of melon and a big glass of water with lemon juice.

@Hyde I'm about a week with almost no artificial sweetners outside of 1 diet coke and whatever is in my protein powder. So 3 servings of artificial sweeteners over the week vs my normal....... 30 maybe lol. Idk, so far no difference but I'm gonna wait another week or 2 and when I add it all back maybe then IL notice if it gets worse. I mean it's not like less artificial crap is a bad thing so IL keep it going.

Training notes. 235×5 was probably 3 rir, it's hard to say without a spot but it's feeling heavy but it's also a big jump from last weeks 215×5×5 so that's expected. I'm thinking I can probably still get 260ish for sets of 5 but I'm gonna build weekly and ride the wave so I don't stall or really injure myself. Ohp @145 was tough when I was pressing strict but the last set I did it more like a push press and explosive reps and it felt like baby weights. So at least I know my explosive power is still hanging around. I was 186 yesterday morning, 192 this morning and IL probably be 193-195 tomorrow before cutting the carbs back out so it pretty much was a repeat week with some slight recomp.

So far I'm liking the Ursa, I'm not 100% certain about triton but it seems to improve my ability to get a pump late in the week when im depleted it's really hard to judge because my carb are so up and down. Tomorrow IL be all carbed up and I know that IL get a good pump no matter what. By Wednesday I'm feeling flat and that's when I feel like I start to notice the extra pumps by taking triton. I'm only at 1ml each and I said I was going from 5 pumps to 6 but I'm gonna go to 7 because I feel like if 5 pumps is 1ml then 6 is like 1.2ml, not really a big difference. So 7 it is!

Bout to go running and then my next meal is probably gonna be a mezz bowl from this Mediterranean place I like.

Chicken and rice with olive oil, olives, hummus, Greek yogurt, chic peas, red lentils, tomatoes, cucumbers, red onions and there's more that's slipping my mind. It's like 80 gm of protein per bowl lol. I like to bring it home and mix it all together and put it in 2 wraps and it gives me 2 meals that are 800 calories and 46gm of protein in each wrap. (Today IL eat 1 and save the other for tomorrow) I need a decent chunk of calories for dinner tonight cus I'm cooking some NY Strips
 
That's good you're still able to get a pump fir the most part. Mine are like drunken sex. It's hard enough to get inside but that's about it. Hopefully by next week it'll be a little better when the gear starts doing its thing. Did an hour of fasted cardio and breathing felt a little more labored which I thought could be the tren getting in my system ( 2nd shot yesterday morning) but it's probably in my head. Mike shipped the cardarine out yesterday and AA shipped the super shredder so they should get here at the perfect time exactly a week scince my first shot
 
I don't have time, my free time is maxed out. And I already can break dance lol

Edit: I use to. My knees and ankles ain't taking that beating no more lol. I did a back handspring the other day on the wrestling mats and my life flashed before my eyes

 
Yeah when you get a couple weeks off, if everything goes smooth when you add them back at least you’ll know you tolerate them just fine - nice going so far.

Also, fronts & chins superset is serious business!

I find Triton always gave me more endurance at the back end of a training session, like I could hit accessories harder.
 
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Yeah when you get a couple weeks off, if everything goes smooth when you add them back at least you’ll know you tolerate them just fine - nice going so far.

Also, fronts & chins superset is serious business!

I find Triton always gave me more endurance at the back end of a training session, like I could hit accessories harder.
I actually prefer fronts over standard. My quads always get a better pump. My favorite is front squat then go to hack squats then split squats after that. Quads are always full af after those 3 I can barely do any more exercises
 
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I actually prefer fronts over standard. My quads always get a better pump. My favorite is front squat then go to hack squats then split squats after that. Quads are always full af after those 3 I can barely do any more exercises

I was more commenting that superset combo is a ton of work! Lots of body mass working hard there.
 
I was more commenting that superset combo is a ton of work! Lots of body mass working hard there.
My chin up and pull up variations are getting very easy over the past month. I can go down into a full stretch and hang at the bottom For like 3 sec in-between reps and still knock out 10 to 12 no problem. If I'm just pumping out reps with no stretch or hold at the top. I can Bang out 20 -22.

The front squats are gonna take a little work to get use to.

My wrists are not flexible to hold the bar in the clean position. I can sit it cradled in between my neck and front delt but it sits on my throat a bit and if I lean forward at all it slides out. I had one of the guys who does some Olympic lifts show me a couple options and none were comfortable do I think I just gotta man up and pick whatever position feels OK and work on it.

Week 5 is coming to a end, low weight was 186 and high weight is.... 194.

So I see no need to shoot for 300gm of carbs today, plus I started my refeed early.
 
End of week 5 after refeed 194.0 (I actually weighed in my boxers and socks and I'm normally not dressed at all so probably slightly less)
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Testosterone 125mg every 4-5 days
Ursa 6 pumps
Triton 6 pumps pre workout only
Caffeine 320-500mg per day
L-carn 500mg 5x week
Raloxifene 25mg daily (when I remember) I been trying to do it daily this past week but I forgot twice. Maybe IL start pinning my test 25mg daily so I remember the ralox daily. I figured now is a good time to try to zap a small lump that's appearing as I get leaner.
 
I need to learn how to flare my lats out

Probably just needs practice. To get a good flare, especially from the front, try pushing your shoulder blades more forward instead of just out sideways, if that makes sense. Try hanging your arms at your sides and try to push them forward with your lats. Should help you get the feel.
 
I need to learn how to flare my lats out

Also, you still look damn good. Lean and vascular, good shape in your arms, your serratus and abs have a pretty good pop to them. Unless you want to compete, I think you’re doing alright.
 
Also, you still look damn good. Lean and vascular, good shape in your arms, your serratus and abs have a pretty good pop to them. Unless you want to compete, I think you’re doing alright.
If I was gonna compete I'd spend a whole year bulking and working on my legs. Which after seeing paul barnette add 50lbs at 50 i may still make a attempt when my life is in a better position for me to be selfish lol.

This is opposite Tho. If anything I'm going to be losing muscle on this cut.

But, the difference between my depleted 186 and carbed up today is a significant difference in the way I look. 186 abs are much sharper and arms and shoulders look deflated. 2-3 carb meals and I fill right out and gain 8 lbs lol
 
If I was gonna compete I'd spend a whole year bulking and working on my legs. Which after seeing paul barnette add 50lbs at 50 i may still make a attempt when my life is in a better position for me to be selfish lol.

This is opposite Tho. If anything I'm going to be losing muscle on this cut.

But, the difference between my depleted 186 and carbed up today is a significant difference in the way I look. 186 abs are much sharper and arms and shoulders look deflated. 2-3 carb meals and I fill right out and gain 8 lbs lol

Yeah I get you! Like 10 years ago, just for the hell of it, I tried dieting down some. I just cut carbs and dropped around 9 pounds in 6 days. I flattened out too much, so I went straight back to bulking, but it was a fun experiment.
 
Just shows you how important diet is. You're not even running gear and you've completely transformed I'm a month. From now on when someone comes on here with 18% b.f. and asks about which cycle they should run we'll just point them to this thread
 
End of week 5 after refeed 194.0 (I actually weighed in my boxers and socks and I'm normally not dressed at all so probably slightly less)
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Testosterone 125mg every 4-5 days
Ursa 6 pumps
Triton 6 pumps pre workout only
Caffeine 320-500mg per day
L-carn 500mg 5x week
Raloxifene 25mg daily (when I remember) I been trying to do it daily this past week but I forgot twice. Maybe IL start pinning my test 25mg daily so I remember the ralox daily. I figured now is a good time to try to zap a small lump that's appearing as I get leaner.
Still holding on to some good muscle, and looking full, while you’re cutting, and nice vascularity all through your arms from what I can tell. And abs seem to be continuing to come through better and better each update picture.👍
 
Yeah I get you! Like 10 years ago, just for the hell of it, I tried dieting down some. I just cut carbs and dropped around 9 pounds in 6 days. I flattened out too much, so I went straight back to bulking, but it was a fun experiment.
I know it's a shitty feeling. The refeed days help tho because I get like 3 workouts where I'm full and feel pumped up and only Wednesday through Friday I feel flat or small.
 
I swear if it wasn't for chopped broccoli and cauliflower rice I'd be screwed. Putting 8oz of chicken over a half cup of each and it's just like eating chicken and rice.
 
I swear if it wasn't for chopped broccoli and cauliflower rice I'd be screwed. Putting 8oz of chicken over a half cup of each and it's just like eating chicken and rice.
Buy some spaghetti squash, stab a few holes witj a fork and you can microwave it. Lots 9f volume with almost no calories. You could also by a spiral thingy and make veggies into "linguini"

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Probably just needs practice. To get a good flare, especially from the front, try pushing your shoulder blades more forward instead of just out sideways, if that makes sense. Try hanging your arms at your sides and try to push them forward with your lats. Should help you get the feel.
If I have my arms down I can pull them out but in a front double they don't flare, maybe there just not big enough lol
 
Buy some spaghetti squash, stab a few holes witj a fork and you can microwave it. Lots 9f volume with almost no calories. You could also by a spiral thingy and make veggies into "linguini"

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Yea they have all that at the grocery store too. I know this is going to kill the Italian in you but I don't like pasta..like at all. Every once in awhile shrimp scampi over angel hair is good but it's more of an excuse to eat a bunch of scampi.
 
If I have my arms down I can pull them out but in a front double they don't flare, maybe there just not big enough lol
if you stand straight and act like you're doing a front pull down can you feel them flare put then. ( I think that's what that exercise is called. That's what Jay cutler called it in his golds Venice video. )
 
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