Excelsior pre workout

[zufir]

This is how it is for me . It’s surprising to me that some people are having such good effects.

4th try on doomsday today 1 scoop this time
Felt nothing , no energy motivation etc . Was like a cup of tea
Ah well , extremely expensive . I’ll use it at 1.5 scoops for a lift but that’s it .

Started at 2 scoops. Nothing
Then went on with 3 scoops. Nothing.. maybe zoned out a bit
Next was 2 scoops with Apollo Nutritrion Hooligan. Felt what I usually feel on Hooligan but no added extra
Finally I tried the 'shakey shakey trick' with a small prayer at the end before taking 3 scoops. Nada

Now I just stack it with any preworkout I take just to finish the tub and be done with it.


/10

Reviews are really all over the place with the doomsday stuff. Interesting but when the general consensus is to just “take more”, I don’t think that’s really applicable to a preworkout with a 5g prop blend and priced at $125.
I’m glad this is working for some but this certainly is not the next “big thing.”

Also I saw some of those threads that got deleted and stuff got weird. Why is this the first preworkout causing people to look at people’s instagrams and linkedins and asking each other to post pics of their physique? And then someone was calling people out saying they looked like they worked in IT?! What does that have to do with anything. Lol shady and weird stuff all around. I’ll wait for excelsior.

Exactly this… I could look like a nerd and still bench 2 plates for working sets, it does not matter and does not change the fact that I can’t feel on 3 scoops.

Excelsior is the same price and doesn’t discriminate against body types, personalities or career choices. It just works

 

[Bernardhopkin]

Does someone here have vested interests on doomsday , like work for Predator ? Fishy …
And if you want to refund me or swap me some hydrazine I’ll happily not tell anyone!

 

[Carolina Kid]

Does someone here have vested interests on doomsday , like work for Predator ? Fishy …
And if you want to refund me or swap me some hydrazine I’ll happily not tell anyone!

I certainly do not, and just ordered a tub of Exp 11/25 excelsior from predator to try out because ruesco still doesn’t have in stock…

Doomsday just works well for me, just like OG craze worked better than OG Jack3D for me as well.

That being said, and in full transparency, I’ve always said that I use it in a stack with either one cap of dark labs euphoria, or one cap of Nutropix Halcyon, which I think works the best of the two…..

 

[Maximiliaan]

Does someone here have vested interests on doomsday , like work for Predator ? Fishy …
And if you want to refund me or swap me some hydrazine I’ll happily not tell anyone!

I was thinking the same about you cos you are always promoting excelsior which is only sold there and now ruesco being cut off I’m wondering if you and Zufir aren’t secretly super undercover predator reps lol. Lol or maybe I’m a leviathan rep and you boys are Team Imperial but if it’s the same company it’s all a secret conspiracy between all three of us to drive up the price of excelsior and get predator free mentions without paying for sponsorship. Lol a conspiracy theorist would go mad on AM figuring it all out

 

[zufir]

I was thinking the same about you cos you are always promoting excelsior which is only sold there and now ruesco being cut off I’m wondering if you and Zufir aren’t secretly super undercover predator reps lol. Lol or maybe I’m a leviathan rep and you boys are Team Imperial but if it’s the same company it’s all a secret conspiracy between all three of us to drive up the price of excelsior and get predator free mentions without paying for sponsorship. Lol a conspiracy theorist would go mad on AM figuring it all out

The only one in the clear is @muscleman

 

[Supercellular]

The only one in the clear is @muscleman

Lol where’s my goddam pay check,

I was thinking the same about you cos you are always promoting excelsior which is only sold there and now ruesco being cut off I’m wondering if you and Zufir aren’t secretly super undercover predator reps lol. Lol or maybe I’m a leviathan rep and you boys are Team Imperial but if it’s the same company it’s all a secret conspiracy between all three of us to drive up the price of excelsior and get predator free mentions without paying for sponsorship. Lol a conspiracy theorist would go mad on AM figuring it all out

Haha see you at the Christmas party, Team Imperial are buying the drinks lol

 

[zufir]

Lol where’s my goddam pay check,


Haha see you at the Christmas party, Team Imperial are buying the drinks lol

Don’t worry bottomless fruit punch will be served

 

[Carolina Kid]

Anyone try this Exp 11/25 excelsior batch yet?

Any good?

 

[cfisher52986]

Reviews are really all over the place with the doomsday stuff. Interesting but

Anyone try this Exp 11/25 excelsior batch yet?

Any good?

I would say it’s good. I’ve only tried 5/24 and 11/25 and they don’t seem much different

 

[superherofeast]

not gonna lie… that looks like a good time… in a rave. Not at the gym

If this is the guy I'm thinking of on the preworkouts subreddit, he's actually an Irish research chemical junkie who occasionally makes new reddit names while on a speed bender and comes to the subreddit to scam people out of money by pretending he'll ship them excelsior/his insane RC-laced PWOs like the one you posted that don't exist (he got me and a few other people when excelsior first got pulled). I called him out on it and got him banned when he re-surfaced one time and he went nuts, messaging me like 20 times a minute (I imagine there were some chemicals involved), telling me to fly out to Ireland and fight him, along with pictures of him flexing a non-existant bicep that I wished I had saved, it was hilarious. He then made his own subreddit called "spikedsupplements" where he posted a bunch of insane ramblings and comments to his own ramblings that actually just made me feel sorry for him.

He's a legend in that subreddit, here's a post about old Nigey-boy from just this week, lol.

 

[M21]

I certainly do not, and just ordered a tub of Exp 11/25 excelsior from predator to try out because ruesco still doesn’t have in stock…

Doomsday just works well for me, just like OG craze worked better than OG Jack3D for me as well.

That being said, and in full transparency, I’ve always said that I use it in a stack with either one cap of dark labs euphoria, or one cap of Nutropix Halcyon, which I think works the best of the two…..

Hmmm I haven’t reached a verdict on Doomsday. First time I tried it at 1 scoop, I felt it in waves almost too strong at times and had a productive workout (similar to your experiences). Finally tried it a second time at .75 and felt almost nothing. I actually felt less motivated to work out than before I took it.
I ordered some DL Euphoria to stack like you mentioned and will go back to a scoop next time around. It put enough doubt in my mind to order more of my go to Hydrazine again, but I never make a final verdict on any pre until trying it 4-5 times.

 

[Supercellular]

If this is the guy I'm thinking of on the preworkouts subreddit, he's actually an Irish research chemical junkie who occasionally makes new reddit names while on a speed bender and comes to the subreddit to scam people out of money by pretending he'll ship them excelsior/his insane RC-laced PWOs like the one you posted that don't exist (he got me and a few other people when excelsior first got pulled). I called him out on it and got him banned when he re-surfaced one time and he went nuts, messaging me like 20 times a minute (I imagine there were some chemicals involved), telling me to fly out to Ireland and fight him, along with pictures of him flexing a non-existant bicep that I wished I had saved, it was hilarious. He then made his own subreddit called "spikedsupplements" where he posted a bunch of insane ramblings and comments to his own ramblings that actually just made me feel sorry for him.

He's a legend in that subreddit, here's a post about old Nigey-boy from just this week, lol.

Haha which one is he cos there’s two guys talking about fighting each other on there but I can’t make any sense of whose who?

he must have something strong cos he sounded like he was on a 24/7 binge when he was posting here even.

 

[Supercellular]

Hmmm I haven’t reached a verdict on Doomsday. First time I tried it at 1 scoop, I felt it in waves almost too strong at times and had a productive workout (similar to your experiences). Finally tried it a second time at .75 and felt almost nothing. I actually felt less motivated to work out than before I took it.
I ordered some DL Euphoria to stack like you mentioned and will go back to a scoop next time around. It put enough doubt in my mind to order more of my go to Hydrazine again, but I never make a final verdict on any pre until trying it 4-5 times.

3/4 of a scoop is too low IME for any preworkout

 

[cfisher52986]

Brothers. Does anyone recall trying a 04/2024 batch in a Red Tub? From my research, it seems like there were red and blacks, and I know they could vary greatly, come from different retailers, etc.
does anyone remember the verdict on these? I have looked back through this thread and it’s a little confusing sorting through the controversy with 4/24, 5/24 , and 6/24 tubs
In case you’re unaware, there is a new listing on eBay of 04/24 tubs and I am most likely grabbing one before it’s too late, but any feedback would be very helpful

 

[Carolina Kid]

Brothers. Does anyone recall trying a 04/2024 batch in a Red Tub? From my research, it seems like there were red and blacks, and I know they could vary greatly, come from different retailers, etc.
does anyone remember the verdict on these? I have looked back through this thread and it’s a little confusing sorting through the controversy with 4/24, 5/24 , and 6/24 tubs
In case you’re unaware, there is a new listing on eBay of 04/24 tubs and I am most likely grabbing one before it’s too late, but any feedback would be very helpful

I never saw a big difference or variation between tubs. Maybe batches up through 8/23 were better but I never had an issue with 4/24, 5/24, 6/24 or 10/25. Will see how 11/25 is.

It’s funny though how now people are rushing to grab 4/24, 5/24 and 6/24, when those batches all got trashed on this very thread mostly when they came out lol.

As an fyi, the info on the stock predator has now is listed below, per their email to me:


Batch - IN093221

EXP - 11/2025

 

[Drakee]

I never saw a big difference or variation between tubs. Maybe batches up through 8/23 were better but I never had an issue with 4/24, 5/24, 6/24 or 10/25. Will see how 11/25 is.

It’s funny though how now people are rushing to grab 4/24, 5/24 and 6/24, when those batches all got trashed on this very thread mostly when they came out lol.

As an fyi, the info on the stock predator has now is listed below, per their email to me:


Batch - IN093221

EXP - 11/2025

yeah I would never go out of my way to purchase a /24 tub. 6/24 feels so unhealthy, and not even in a fun way. Its like they bought some failed leftover RC for cheap and threw it in there.

3fma is actually a decent stimulant which is why the 22/23 tubs were worth buying at the time.

 

[SpicedCider]

yeah I would never go out of my way to purchase a /24 tub. 6/24 feels so unhealthy, and not even in a fun way. Its like they bought some failed leftover RC for cheap and threw it in there.

3fma is actually a decent stimulant which is why the 22/23 tubs were worth buying at the time.

I don't remember what the expiration dates or lot numbers were, but IMO the hardest-hitting tubs were the ones I bought in April 2020. Very strong euphoria, and a feeling of being much less "weighted" when running (almost like gravity wasn't as strong and I could just glide through the run). None of the tubs I've purchased since that era have felt as good.

 

[zufir]

I never saw a big difference or variation between tubs. Maybe batches up through 8/23 were better but I never had an issue with 4/24, 5/24, 6/24 or 10/25. Will see how 11/25 is.

It’s funny though how now people are rushing to grab 4/24, 5/24 and 6/24, when those batches all got trashed on this very thread mostly when they came out lol.

As an fyi, the info on the stock predator has now is listed below, per their email to me:


Batch - IN093221

EXP - 11/2025

The tubs after /23 were trashed because it didn't have as much euphoria anymore. I would say that the much recent tubs are similar to the black tubs but are much weaker so you would need to take more to have similar effects

 

[cfisher52986]

The tubs after /23 were trashed because it didn't have as much euphoria anymore. I would say that the much recent tubs are similar to the black tubs but are much weaker so you would need to take more to have similar effects

Yes I know the older ones were much better but unfortunately 4/24 is the oldest one I can find . In my experience I do like my 5/24 more than my 11/25, but I only do 1 scoop. I was hoping that 4/24 might be a little better since it is more rare

 

[zufir]

Yes I know the older ones were much better but unfortunately 4/24 is the oldest one I can find . In my experience I do like my 5/24 more than my 11/25, but I only do 1 scoop. I was hoping that 4/24 might be a little better since it is more rare

You should just buy any of the newer red tubs and take double of whatever serving you took with the black tubs.

Black tubs at 2 scoops is the sweet spot versus Red tubs at 3 scoops, but that’s me.

You can also push for 3.5 scoops aka “The Forbidden Jutsu”. Good for a PR workout but you’ll feel like death afterwards. Not recommended if you have stuff to do after your workout.

 

[Bernardhopkin]

I’ve about 15 tablets of thermal spark left - bizarrely I think someone has been pinching some in the house I kid you not !
What’s opinions on that and what is in it . The appetite suppression is very good. Is there anything bar hydrazine similar ?

 

[zufir]

I’ve about 15 tablets of thermal spark left - bizarrely I think someone has been pinching some in the house I kid you not !
What’s opinions on that and what is in it . The appetite suppression is very good. Is there anything bar hydrazine similar ?

I believe the caps from 10/22 are way more effective than post that date but @Carolina Kid is the expert on thermal spark haha

 

[Bernardhopkin]

I believe the caps from 10/22 are way more effective than post that date but @Carolina Kid is the expert on thermal spark haha

Interesting mine is 08/2023

 

[Carolina Kid]

I believe the caps from 10/22 are way more effective than post that date but @Carolina Kid is the expert on thermal spark haha

That 11/22 initial run Thermal Spark batch is a
Gift from the supplement gods lol

 

[CATdiesel76]

So being this is an excelsior thread this will be my last doomsday post in here. Only doing it here because the other threads for deleted. It’s worth noting that after using it a bunch over a week period it seemed to lose effectiveness a bit. However, took 4 days off and took 3/4 scoop today. Have been tired and struggled through a back workout that I used a half scoop of noxygen (roughly 115mg caffeine for. I had about two months of yard work to make up today before ran and work intervened again.

Took the doomsday. After about 10 minutes I got the usual weird kind of anxious mild energy. Started to do yard work. After about an hour I realized I was locked in with crazy focus. Not a stimulated heart racing energy but I was just crushing tasks without stopping. It was 95 degrees outside. Mowed the whole lawn (I have two acres and it was wet and overgrown so took awhile) edged, weedate, cleaned ivy off the fence, cut down some small trees, hedges bushes, cleaned my garden, I mean task after task without stopping. I had only planned to do half of that. It was actually slightly bad because I was so focused I didn’t realize I was very overheated. I just didn’t want to stop.

cooled off, showered, and Amazon showed up with the Marcus Arulius meditations book I ordered and been plowing through. I have zero affiliation with any of these companies and this was my first predator order. Really hate some people got nothing out of this because while it’s not always this good, it’s been special. As you can tell by this post after all that work, it works great for me

 

[Darkhorse192]

a lot of conflicting information here, which makes it very hard to discern what is the "top of the food chain pre" in the current environment...

does anyone care to elaborate for those that are unaware?

 

[Supercellular]

So being this is an excelsior thread this will be my last doomsday post in here. Only doing it here because the other threads for deleted. It’s worth noting that after using it a bunch over a week period it seemed to lose effectiveness a bit. However, took 4 days off and took 3/4 scoop today. Have been tired and struggled through a back workout that I used a half scoop of noxygen (roughly 115mg caffeine for. I had about two months of yard work to make up today before ran and work intervened again.

Took the doomsday. After about 10 minutes I got the usual weird kind of anxious mild energy. Started to do yard work. After about an hour I realized I was locked in with crazy focus. Not a stimulated heart racing energy but I was just crushing tasks without stopping. It was 95 degrees outside. Mowed the whole lawn (I have two acres and it was wet and overgrown so took awhile) edged, weedate, cleaned ivy off the fence, cut down some small trees, hedges bushes, cleaned my garden, I mean task after task without stopping. I had only planned to do half of that. It was actually slightly bad because I was so focused I didn’t realize I was very overheated. I just didn’t want to stop.

cooled off, showered, and Amazon showed up with the Marcus Arulius meditations book I ordered and been plowing through. I have zero affiliation with any of these companies and this was my first predator order. Really hate some people got nothing out of this because while it’s not always this good, it’s been special. As you can tell by this post after all that work, it works great for me

Funny story, and yeah you gotta take breaks f . How big is your yard cos I’ve never heard of using a preworkout to do some gardening? Lol we definitely wanna see before and after photos of your garden!

So being this is an excelsior thread this will be my last doomsday post in here. Only doing it here because the other threads for deleted. It’s worth noting that after using it a bunch over a week period it seemed to lose effectiveness a bit. However, took 4 days off and took 3/4 scoop today. Have been tired and struggled through a back workout that I used a half scoop of noxygen (roughly 115mg caffeine for. I had about two months of yard work to make up today before ran and work intervened again.

Took the doomsday. After about 10 minutes I got the usual weird kind of anxious mild energy. Started to do yard work. After about an hour I realized I was locked in with crazy focus. Not a stimulated heart racing energy but I was just crushing tasks without stopping. It was 95 degrees outside. Mowed the whole lawn (I have two acres and it was wet and overgrown so took awhile) edged, weedate, cleaned ivy off the fence, cut down some small trees, hedges bushes, cleaned my garden, I mean task after task without stopping. I had only planned to do half of that. It was actually slightly bad because I was so focused I didn’t realize I was very overheated. I just didn’t want to stop.

cooled off, showered, and Amazon showed up with the Marcus Arulius meditations book I ordered and been plowing through. I have zero affiliation with any of these companies and this was my first predator order. Really hate some people got nothing out of this because while it’s not always this good, it’s been special. As you can tell by this post after all that work, it works great for me

Lol what an amazing story!

Just how big is your yard cos I’ve never heard of using a preworkout to do some gardening? Lol I definitely wanna see before and after photos of your yard after this post.

 

[Supercellular]

a lot of conflicting information here, which makes it very hard to discern what is the "top of the food chain pre" in the current environment...

does anyone care to elaborate for those that are unaware?

I think guys using lots of high stim products like excelsior and won’t get much out of doomsday (I think their adrenals won’t be as responsive personally).

Guys who like doomsday from what I remember of the other thread generally liked it for performance (speaking for myself I can lift more on my doomsday workouts than on days I’ve compared it to 3 caps of hydrazine) + there’s a few who seem to get effects which are similar to the guy above (fwiw, I don’t get much other than when I’m under the bar and then find I can power through tough reps much easier).

Oh and a few of us noticed a pain blunting effect with it.

 

[cfisher52986]

If Doomsday only works for people with very low stim tolerance, then I guess the problem is it’s just weak as

 

[Carolina Kid]

I think guys using lots of high stim products like excelsior and won’t get much out of doomsday (I think their adrenals won’t be as responsive personally).

Guys who like doomsday from what I remember of the other thread generally liked it for performance (speaking for myself I can lift more on my doomsday workouts than on days I’ve compared it to 3 caps of hydrazine) + there’s a few who seem to get effects which are similar to the guy above (fwiw, I don’t get much other than when I’m under the bar and then find I can power through tough reps much easier).

Oh and a few of us noticed a pain blunting effect with it.

All of this, and I find Doomsday to be a great (yet strange) preworkout.

For me, it works best at 0.75 scoops with one cap of Halcyon. Also test with one cap of dark labs euphoria, which is great as well, but for me one cap of Halcyon works best in the combo.

FWIW, anyone trying to cycle off excelsior for a break may find this beneficial. I took a 2 week break from excelsior, substituted excelsior in same combo above and definitely felt the good and bad with excelsior (more bad than good in terms of the post workout anxiety).

I did not mow a 2 acre yard, but I did however crush an early morning 5am workout today with 240 reps (split 120 a piece with Bi’s and tri’s) and read a 90 page engineering manual and reprogramed an entire home theatre after same yesterday for chest and back at 300 reps (150 reps a piece, weight at or above my weight of 180lbs) due to the focus aspect.

This is where the focus and getting tasks done 100% reminds me of OG CRAZE, at least for me, similar to as mentioned above by @CATdiesel76 .

I’ve got an 11/25 batch of excelsior en route from predator (I was testing with 10/25) and will report back any differences, similarities, etc….

 

[CATdiesel76]

Funny story, and yeah you gotta take breaks f . How big is your yard cos I’ve never heard of using a preworkout to do some gardening? Lol we definitely wanna see before and after photos of your garden!


Lol what an amazing story!

Just how big is your yard cos I’ve never heard of using a preworkout to do some gardening? Lol I definitely wanna see before and after photos of your yard after this post.

haha I don’t usually but I was exhausted and had to get tons done yesterday. About 6 hours heavy years work. 2 acres of tall, over grown, wet grass on an old push mower. Tons of brush and dead tree removal, etc. after that I had to get some biologics training module for work so it was a lot of labor

 

[CATdiesel76]

All of this, and I find Doomsday to be a great (yet strange) preworkout.

For me, it works best at 0.75 scoops with one cap of Halcyon. Also test with one cap of dark labs euphoria, which is great as well, but for me one cap of Halcyon works best in the combo.

FWIW, anyone trying to cycle off excelsior for a break may find this beneficial. I took a 2 week break from excelsior, substituted excelsior in same combo above and definitely felt the good and bad with excelsior (more bad than good in terms of the post workout anxiety).

I did not mow a 2 acre yard, but I did however crush an early morning 5am workout today with 240 reps (split 120 a piece with Bi’s and tri’s) and read a 90 page engineering manual and reprogramed an entire home theatre after same yesterday for chest and back at 300 reps (150 reps a piece, weight at or above my weight of 180lbs) due to the focus aspect.

This is where the focus and getting tasks done 100% reminds me of OG CRAZE, at least for me, similar to as mentioned above by @CATdiesel76 .

I’ve got an 11/25 batch of excelsior en route from predator (I was testing with 10/25) and will report back any differences, similarities, etc….

strange is a good word. It’s not a cracked put feeling. I have a pretty decent stim tolerance so that’s not it. It gives energy but it’s not like you just hit a line. It’s just very focused intense I want to get **** done feeling and you have plenty of energy to do it. But it’s not like busting out of your skin type energy a lot of stims give. It’s super hard to explain. But when combined with Modafinil in a product like aterall the combo feels just like script adderal for me

like if you want to get fired up to max out on deadlifts I’d probably go a caffiene dmaa route or add some of that to this. But if you want to have a really productive day and knock out work all day long with no mental fatigue, or have an in the zone workout where you are just cranking out sets, long run etc this stuff is perfect. It also lasts a long time and takes a while to kick it

I also think there is some truth that excelsior OG messed up some people’s brain chemistry, dopamine, etc. something that strong is bound to. If you can take three scoops of newer tubs something isn’t right. And that’s coming from somebody who can handle 75-100mg of old school SNS dmaa caps no problem

 

[zufir]

anyone heard of this.. ?

Looks like it has ''something in it''. It's the same shape tub as excelsior so I bought one out of curiosity...

 

[Carolina Kid]

anyone heard of this.. ?

Looks like it has ''something in it''. It's the same shape tub as excelsior so I bought one out of curiosity...

RIP excelsior….next man up as they say and let us know how it goes….

 

[cfisher52986]

NJ represent

 

[Supercellular]

strange is a good word. It’s not a cracked put feeling. I have a pretty decent stim tolerance so that’s not it. It gives energy but it’s not like you just hit a line. It’s just very focused intense I want to get **** done feeling and you have plenty of energy to do it. But it’s not like busting out of your skin type energy a lot of stims give. It’s super hard to explain. But when combined with Modafinil in a product like aterall the combo feels just like script adderal for me

like if you want to get fired up to max out on deadlifts I’d probably go a caffiene dmaa route or add some of that to this. But if you want to have a really productive day and knock out work all day long with no mental fatigue, or have an in the zone workout where you are just cranking out sets, long run etc this stuff is perfect. It also lasts a long time and takes a while to kick it

I also think there is some truth that excelsior OG messed up some people’s brain chemistry, dopamine, etc. something that strong is bound to. If you can take three scoops of newer tubs something isn’t right. And that’s coming from somebody who can handle 75-100mg of old school SNS dmaa caps no problem

Funny enough, a girl I know whose taken this mentioned it feels kinda like a modafinil type of product to her which doesn’t make sense to me cos I can sleep on this and modafinil, while it’s not a noticeable stimulant (similar to Doomsday), it’s whole purpose is to make people stay awake longer.

Can’t really say it feels like much else bar OG Craze minus the hyper-stimulation effect/sleeplessness and inability to eat. But for straight out getting more reps, sets, weight lifted in a given period of time that’s where I see similarities.

And I think you’re right about excelsior. I never enjoyed that so never took it much - feeling anxious, nauseous, unable to eat/sleep was like all the downsides of dmaa but for a longer period of time. For someone who doesn’t get those sides from it god knees what it’s gotta be doing to your brain with sustained use. There’s a lot of people I think who take this just to get a cheap high (not talking about on this board but in general I can imagine that).

 

[cfisher52986]

anyone heard of this.. ?

Looks like it has ''something in it''. It's the same shape tub as excelsior so I bought one out of curiosity...

I was determined not to buy another preworkout this week but then I saw this looks like it is selling out everywhere and I didn’t want to miss out on that first batch magic.
Also this label looks a lot like Sharp AMF

 

[SpicedCider]

Well, this is a situation I've never encountered before. My package containing one tub each of Excelsior and DS Frenzy (ordered from Predator) was scheduled to be delivered today (I'm in the US), but the tracking status shows it was returned to sender... ?!

So I called DHL's customer service, and they said apparently US customs agents inspected the package and refused to allow it to enter the US.

Has anyone ever had this happen before? Is Excelsior (or possibly DS Frenzy) on some sort of "ban list" that we don't know about? Or is it more likely that my package was inspected by some sort of hard-ass special forces wannabe who probably opened the package, couldn't figure out exactly "what" he was looking at, and just decided to reject the package outright?

 

[M21]

I was determined not to buy another preworkout this week but then I saw this looks like it is selling out everywhere and I didn’t want to miss out on that first batch magic.
Also this label looks a lot like Sharp AMF

Same… Here I go again. Bought several tubs myself.

 

[M21]

Well, this is a situation I've never encountered before. My package containing one tub each of Excelsior and DS Frenzy (ordered from Predator) was scheduled to be delivered today (I'm in the US), but the tracking status shows it was returned to sender... ?!

So I called DHL's customer service, and they said apparently US customs agents inspected the package and refused to allow it to enter the US.

Has anyone ever had this happen before? Is Excelsior (or possibly DS Frenzy) on some sort of "ban list" that we don't know about? Or is it more likely that my package was inspected by some sort of hard-ass special forces wannabe who probably opened the package, couldn't figure out exactly "what" he was looking at, and just decided to reject the package outright?

I’ve never had any orders from Predator denied by customs. Great, I finally decided to try Excelsior again. My order has been shipped… hoping mine isn’t denied !

 

[Supercellular]

Well, this is a situation I've never encountered before. My package containing one tub each of Excelsior and DS Frenzy (ordered from Predator) was scheduled to be delivered today (I'm in the US), but the tracking status shows it was returned to sender... ?!

So I called DHL's customer service, and they said apparently US customs agents inspected the package and refused to allow it to enter the US.

Has anyone ever had this happen before? Is Excelsior (or possibly DS Frenzy) on some sort of "ban list" that we don't know about? Or is it more likely that my package was inspected by some sort of hard-ass special forces wannabe who probably opened the package, couldn't figure out exactly "what" he was looking at, and just decided to reject the package outright?

Did they send a seizure letter or just sending it back to sender?

 

[SpicedCider]

Did they send a seizure letter or just sending it back to sender?

Haven't received a seizure letter yet. I emailed Predator and am hoping that they'll reship the package. I've spent lots of money ordering from them over the years as a regular customer, so I'll be shocked if they don't offer to reship/refund.

 

[cfisher52986]

Same… Here I go again. Bought several tubs myself.

Ok baller!

 

[cfisher52986]

Same… Here I go again. Bought several tubs myself.

I think it is sold out literally everywhere already. Very interested to see the reviews come in

 

[muscleman]

The only one in the clear is @muscleman

My tingling muscleman sense says you are in the clear too @zufir . I do not recommend but I do understand your reckless high doses and some people can survive those high doses if they build their tolerance slowly.

But suspect with so many new account after Doomsday and I haven't even been checking in that thread only to discover it was removed today. I am only guessing somebody called out some scams and some scammers didn't wanna be called out so the got pissed and pulled the thread.

I dunno if I am taking too much honor when I suspected I was kind of part of the reason why the original Excelsior thread was taken down Lol
Well a few times on my Excelsior high and locked in mood I really spilled the beans about past pwos and likely chemical explanations for different batches, no real rocket science and I am not a chemist I am just a temporary stim junkie turning into muscleman mood everyone and then

I was really appalled when I saw the Doomsday touted as Craze etc... and then reading the reviews... hmm some people might really feel those "nootropic effects" and enjoy them but paying twice the price of actual good m e t h for it lol.
I even got slightly appalled with myself, even though I very rarely dosed very high, almost never over one scoop the last 2 years, even a smaller dose kinda tweaked my personality a bit and I became the muscleman fiend lol.

I did have a crazy forest dance with the combo of Detonate and Excelsior and danced for hours and when sunrise hit the forest I was kind of transformed by the trance and I reflected on my obsessed muscleman mood and instead of taking my last scoop of Excelsior I left the party feeling homesick already at 8 am the following morning, having hit the party and taken my pre workouts at 12 am.
I even poured my second pre mixed scoop into to the moss in the forest instead of drinking it!

I slightly miss O.G but the newer tubs all had me feeling a bit off and I feel no loss having finished them, just have a little O.G supply left in case of emergencies like in case a pack of wolves started hunting me in the forest then I would take it to give me the stamina and chance to outrun them

Stay safe from wolves and other Predator(s)

 

[Carolina Kid]

My tingling muscleman sense says you are in the clear too @zufir . I do not recommend but I do understand your reckless high doses and some people can survive those high doses if they build their tolerance slowly.

But suspect with so many new account after Doomsday and I haven't even been checking in that thread only to discover it was removed today. I am only guessing somebody called out some scams and some scammers didn't wanna be called out so the got pissed and pulled the thread.

I dunno if I am taking too much honor when I suspected I was kind of part of the reason why the original Excelsior thread was taken down Lol
Well a few times on my Excelsior high and locked in mood I really spilled the beans about past pwos and likely chemical explanations for different batches, no real rocket science and I am not a chemist I am just a temporary stim junkie turning into muscleman mood everyone and then

I was really appalled when I saw the Doomsday touted as Craze etc... and then reading the reviews... hmm some people might really feel those "nootropic effects" and enjoy them but paying twice the price of actual good m e t h for it lol.
I even got slightly appalled with myself, even though I very rarely dosed very high, almost never over one scoop the last 2 years, even a smaller dose kinda tweaked my personality a bit and I became the muscleman fiend lol.

I did have a crazy forest dance with the combo of Detonate and Excelsior and danced for hours and when sunrise hit the forest I was kind of transformed by the trance and I reflected on my obsessed muscleman mood and instead of taking my last scoop of Excelsior I left the party feeling homesick already at 8 am the following morning, having hit the party and taken my pre workouts at 12 am.
I even poured my second pre mixed scoop into to the moss in the forest instead of drinking it!

I slightly miss O.G but the newer tubs all had me feeling a bit off and I feel no loss having finished them, just have a little O.G supply left in case of emergencies like in case a pack of wolves started hunting me in the forest then I would take it to give me the stamina and chance to outrun them

Stay safe from wolves and other Predator(s)

Somebody please send @muscleman a sample or tub of this new Smash AMF preworkout, only then will we truly know it is legit!

 

[muscleman]

Somebody please send @muscleman a sample or tub of this new Smash AMF preworkout, only then will we truly know it is legit!

Thanks for the trust as stim reviewer again lol !I was looking at it after opening this thread today but then I remember last time I bough Phenta flex after watching Fitness Deals reviews a PWO that literally made me sick...

I did a quick google on it and found a reddit discussion and many are indeed buying stuff straight off the bat after FDNs reviews but as one reedited noted if that PWO is sold at support central that FDN gives discount codes to he is actually partial and it would naive that he would get nothing off some very fast sales of PWO after he has reviewed them.
Anyhow it is all almost sold out now and besides FDn and this other YouTuber here are no reviews, thank you guys for being labrats and I am looking forward to all honest reviews.

I dunno, FDN did indeed review Excelsior but I doubt there will be anything close to Excelsior for awhile but until one scoop it up and knows from personal experience nothing is sure

Maybe not because I am getting wiser but maybe I have build up toxins from PWOs throughout the years and lately I am having more and more problem with the sickness that come just after drinking those chemical toxic artificial sweeternes.
Formulators out there, what we need is pure stim of high quality mixed with real berry extract and maybe a natural sweetener like stevia but I guess they wanna kill off people even quicker by mixing active ingredients with almost equal amount fillers and taste lol

 

[zufir]

Thanks for the trust as stim reviewer again lol !I was looking at it after opening this thread today but then I remember last time I bough Phenta flex after watching Fitness Deals reviews a PWO that literally made me sick...

I did a quick google on it and found a reddit discussion and many are indeed buying stuff straight off the bat after FDNs reviews but as one reedited noted if that PWO is sold at support central that FDN gives discount codes to he is actually partial and it would naive that he would get nothing off some very fast sales of PWO after he has reviewed them.
Anyhow it is all almost sold out now and besides FDn and this other YouTuber here are no reviews, thank you guys for being labrats and I am looking forward to all honest reviews.

I dunno, FDN did indeed review Excelsior but I doubt there will be anything close to Excelsior for awhile but until one scoop it up and knows from personal experience nothing is sure

Maybe not because I am getting wiser but maybe I have build up toxins from PWOs throughout the years and lately I am having more and more problem with the sickness that come just after drinking those chemical toxic artificial sweeternes.
Formulators out there, what we need is pure stim of high quality mixed with real berry extract and maybe a natural sweetener like stevia but I guess they wanna kill off people even quicker by mixing active ingredients with almost equal amount fillers and taste lol

I volunteer as tribute.
I will start with the recommended dosage this time

 

[muscleman]

Watching Fitness Deals News Smash AMF review right now and he is a great salesman

BUT is it really true like he says that he has had it for 2 months to make sure it is what he thinks it is!? Lol If it really was so smashing good how could he hold off for 2 months before posting his review? never mind who knows that the deal is. Stim junkie Deals Lol
Kind of weird that although Smash AMF been out for a few months suddenly now FDNs review and that Gentle Gym Beast and fitfrek post about is as well within a day although fitfrek hasn't even tried it themselves? Good luck people I am actually fighting with a shopping itch in my fingers but also remember all the bad ones lol

 

[Carolina Kid]

Watching Fitness Deals News Smash AMF review right now and he is a great salesman

BUT is it really true like he says that he has had it for 2 months to make sure it is what he thinks it is!? Lol If it really was so smashing good how could he hold off for 2 months before posting his review? never mind who knows that the deal is. Stim junkie Deals Lol
Kind of weird that although Smash AMF been out for a few months suddenly now FDNs review and that Gentle Gym Beast and fitfrek post about is as well within a day although fitfrek hasn't even tried it themselves? Good luck people I am actually fighting with a shopping itch in my fingers but also remember all the bad ones lol

I got a tub of Berry Fusion coming my way, will test next week and report back!

Like y’all know, I’m one of the few that likes doomsday cause it happens to work well for me, but another solid pre in the rotation never hurt any lifter…..