Tell Us What You Would Like to See From SNS & CEL (2023 Edition)

[TheMrMuscle]

I don't know the setup of Discord or how its set up. If you can have different rooms for different brands, that seems cool. If you don't mind, could you send me some information on how you would suggest I set that up? I'm glad to try to.

And alright, I could try to do that as far as a sub-reddit for each.

Seems like setting up a Discord Server is really easy, found this step by step guide

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[TommyTuffGuy]

Where’s the freggin Libido gimmick SNS!

 

[wayne47]

Where’s the freggin Libido gimmick SNS!

Yeah, bring it on already

 

[sns8778]

Where’s the freggin Libido gimmick SNS!

If you're asking about Libido Boost XT, the formula is finalized and labels are done; its just a matter of fitting it in the production lineup. We have so many products that its a constant balancing act between increasing inventory levels of existing products, while bringing out new ones as well

Xtreme Performance Gels Alpha Gel is a new release that has been getting great feedback on libido:

Alpha Gel by XPG - Natural Testosterone & Libido Support Gel - Available Now

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anabolicminds.com

 

[josun]

When is cloma plex coming back in stock?

 

[sns8778]

When is cloma plex coming back in stock?

Hopefully within the next 2 weeks.

 

[ramses31]

Hopefully within the next 2 weeks.

Would like to see a high quality kaempferia parviflora extract from you guys

 

[sns8778]

Would like to see a high quality kaempferia parviflora extract from you guys

Thank you. We use this in Anabolic XT and will be using it in Libido Boost XT as well.

 

[ramses31]

If you guys get the sa-2 extract yombine that was in old school Alphamine or something similar you guys would sell out immediately.

 

[ramses31]

Thank you. We use this in Anabolic XT and will be using it in Libido Boost XT as well.

I just bought Anabolic XT, I'm excited.

 

[sns8778]

If you guys get the sa-2 extract yombine that was in old school Alphamine or something similar you guys would sell out immediately.

That sa-2 part wasn't an actual ingredient, it was their trademark name for one; and most people seemed to think it was Rauwolscine/Alpha Yohimbine, which does work great in combination with Higenamine that was in their product. We made Higenamine capsules in the past but the FDA did away with that ingredient. We do offer Alpha Yohimbine caps and a lot of people love them:

https://seriousnutritionsolutions.com/product/alpha-yohimbine/

 

[sns8778]

I just bought Anabolic XT, I'm excited.

Thank you. I hope that you'll love it and I'm looking forward to your feedback.

 

[ramses31]

That sa-2 part wasn't an actual ingredient, it was their trademark name for one; and most people seemed to think it was Rauwolscine/Alpha Yohimbine, which does work great in combination with Higenamine that was in their product. We made Higenamine capsules in the past but the FDA did away with that ingredient. We do offer Alpha Yohimbine caps and a lot of people love them:

https://seriousnutritionsolutions.com/product/alpha-yohimbine/

Supposedly it was a patented form of Yohimbe extract rather than just Yohimbine but who knows

 

[sns8778]

Supposedly it was a patented form of Yohimbe extract rather than just Yohimbine but who knows

Yeah, there was a lot of confusion and debate over it. But then in some sale information, later on, they referred to it as Rauwolscine, which is Alpha Yohimbine. And at the time, that ingredient wasn't hardly used at all, and legit raws were hard to come by. So, it would have made a lot of sense for it being that.

But, also, back then was when there was still a bit of a USP Labs supposed connection, so that throws some possible skepticism on what it really was.

Personally, I found taking our Alpha Yohimbine and Higenamine to be just like it, so that's my best guess as to what it was and what made that product feel the way it did. But the FDA nixed Higenamine as a legal dietary supplement a couple years back.

 

[sns8778]

Any other suggestions?

This thread has kind of died down, so I haven't been discussing as much about upcoming things in it - but we have a lot of cool things in the works.

I probably need to do a better job of hyping things up like other companies, but I've just always been one to not do that bc I hate it that its pretty impossible in this industry to give exact dates for things - especially when doing the constant balancing act between increasing inventory levels and bringing out new products.

 

[rodefeeh]

Is a pure nootropic/energy supplement in the works? We talked about something that has Theacrine and Dynamine a while back.

 

[Slims]

Any other suggestions?

This thread has kind of died down, so I haven't been discussing as much about upcoming things in it - but we have a lot of cool things in the works.

I probably need to do a better job of hyping things up like other companies, but I've just always been one to not do that bc I hate it that its pretty impossible in this industry to give exact dates for things - especially when doing the constant balancing act between increasing inventory levels and bringing out new products.

Your products, and reviews from customers, speak for themselves, you don't need to "hype" anything up.

In regards to the "Any other suggestions" part...
Something that could make sleep more efficient and effective. A product that could make four/five hours of sleep be as effective as eight/nine.
Sleep is one of THE most important things for building muscle, loosing fat, overall health/longevity etc, but with the hectic lives that most of us lead the majority of us barely get even close to the recommended eight hours.
As Arnold said
"Sleep a little faster"

 

[sns8778]

Is a pure nootropic/energy supplement in the works? We talked about something that has Theacrine and Dynamine a while back.

I thought about doing a Theacrine/Dynamine product but had decided I wanted to do something that was more of an overall caffeine free energizer, so it would have a few more ingredients. Something that one could take with their coffee, tea, favorite energy drink, etc.

The formula is done, and label text is done. The only holdup is trying to think of a name for it.

 

[sns8778]

Your products, and reviews from customers, speak for themselves, you don't need to "hype" anything up.

In regards to the "Any other suggestions" part...
Something that could make sleep more efficient and effective. A product that could make four/five hours of sleep be as effective as eight/nine.
Sleep is one of THE most important things for building muscle, loosing fat, overall health/longevity etc, but with the hectic lives that most of us lead the majority of us barely get the recommended eight hours.
As Arnold said
"Sleep a little faster"

Thank you.

We make a lot of great products, just not enough people know about them; and we really need to get the word out and try to get more people familiar with the brands.

What I meant by hyping things regarding upcoming releases, is that a lot of companies tend to get a lot of good talk and hype by teasing and promoting launches of products that are many months out. I may mention things, but never really try to hype or promote them much in advance. Sometimes it can be discouraging to mention new things and get so little talk or attention on it, but then see others get so much. Sometimes, I think its bc we have so many things that people just expect new things, and therefore don't get as excited about things coming up.

Sleep Assist XT is great, and we should have it back in stock soon.

We also have a sleep product coming up soon that will be melatonin free, and will target improved sleep quality and efficiency.

 

[Slims]

Thank you.

We make a lot of great products, just not enough people know about them; and we really need to get the word out and try to get more people familiar with the brands.

Maybe some branded SNS/CEL shaker bottles, gym shirts etc??

Sleep Assist XT is great, and we should have it back in stock soon.

We also have a sleep product coming up soon that will be melatonin free, and will target improved sleep quality and efficiency.

I VERY much look forward to this.

 

[sns8778]

@Slims your reply showed up in the quote itself, so when I went to quote and reply, it wouldn't show it.

But thank you, I'm glad that you're interested in the new sleep product coming up. I am very much myself, because I don't have the hours in the day to get enough quality sleep, so anything that helps me feel more rested with less hours, I'm definitely all for it myself.

We have the product I'm speaking of there - Sleep Support XT, coming up soon; and we also have the new version of Growth Factor XT coming out soon, and that is great for sleep quality too.

As for promo items, we do hope to be doing shirts and shakers soon. I'm also considering hats and a few other options and definitely open to suggestions.

 

[Hyde]

I thought about doing a Theacrine/Dynamine product but had decided I wanted to do something that was more of an overall caffeine free energizer, so it would have a few more ingredients. Something that one could take with their coffee, tea, favorite energy drink, etc.

The formula is done, and label text is done. The only holdup is trying to think of a name for it.

Depending on the ingredients/feel of the product would probably dictate the marketing direction of the name.

If it’s really more of an energizer, playing off of a supercharged reference like Stim Boost or Overdrive XT.

If it’s more of a cognitive enhancer, something like Flow State XT might be more appropriate.

A Redeye is a coffee with an espresso shot thrown in, and the first thing I thought of, but that’s probably too aggressive-sounding for the folks who don’t know that. Or they would assume it’s just higher stimulants.

 

[sns8778]

Depending on the ingredients/feel of the product would probably dictate the marketing direction of the name.

If it’s really more of an energizer, playing off of a supercharged reference like Stim Boost or Overdrive XT.

If it’s more of a cognitive enhancer, something like Flow State XT might be more appropriate.

A Redeye is a coffee with an espresso shot thrown in, and the first thing I thought of, but that’s probably too aggressive-sounding for the folks who don’t know that. Or they would assume it’s just higher stimulants.

Thank you. And I agree.

The way the product formulation is, it will be that 1 capsule will be great for the average person wanting to boost their energy drink, coffee, tea, etc. or that doesn't take caffeine for some reason. Then people that want stronger can take 2 capsules.

I wanted this to be something appeals to people in day to day life as well as the fitness community.

 

[baldwanus]

I feel like I've posted it before but; some sort of electrolyte powder. Legit doses of sodium + potassium, wouldn't hate to see taurine added in. Also wouldn't be opposed to smaller doses of sugar/some type of carb source.

Do that with the old black cherry FXT flavoring and I'll buy a shitton

 

[sns8778]

I feel like I've posted it before but; some sort of electrolyte powder. Legit doses of sodium + potassium, wouldn't hate to see taurine added in. Also wouldn't be opposed to smaller doses of sugar/some type of carb source.

Do that with the old black cherry FXT flavoring and I'll buy a shitton

Thank you.

We have a hydration product in process. I'm actually thinking of doing 2 variants - one with a 2:1 sodium to potassium ratio and then another with a 4:1 potassium to sodium ratio.

I won't be including a carb source in the electrolyte powders.

BUT I do want to do one or more carb powders. I'm thinking of doing either an HBCD or an HBCD/Carb10 blend, a meal carb type product, and then considering doing a product like the old original Cytomax formula.

I love Black Cherry myself too. Do you like Blackberry Mojito? We've been doing some flavor samples of several things with that flavor recently.

 

[WhatsaBench]

I would be interested in the hydration product.

 

[sns8778]

I would be interested in the hydration product.

Thank you. That's one I really am excited about for myself as well.

There is a debate in the market between high sodium to potassium and then the new generation of sports drinks that go high potassium to low sodium - I think there is no one certain one that is the 'best' ratio because I think it can vary by the person and the application; and that's why I thought of offering two versions and that way the person could pick which one would work best for them.

 

[baldwanus]

I love Black Cherry myself too. Do you like Blackberry Mojito? We've been doing some flavor samples of several things with that flavor recently.

Can be a super hit or miss flavor.. all comes down to the mint part not being too overpowering.

 

[Slims]

@Slims
As for promo items, we do hope to be doing shirts and shakers soon. I'm also considering hats and a few other options and definitely open to suggestions.

Solid black t-shirt with the big blue SNS logo, and full brand name just under, across the chest and maybe a red XT somewhere. Almost like a t-shirt version of the AnabolicXT bottle?

 

[sns8778]

Can be a super hit or miss flavor.. all comes down to the mint part not being too overpowering.

I agree - its about finding a perfect balance in order to get it right.

 

[sns8778]

Solid black t-shirt with the big blue SNS logo, and full brand name just under, across the chest and maybe a red XT somewhere. Almost like a t-shirt version of the AnabolicXT bottle?

I'm thinking about doing a few different color shirts with the big blue SNS logo and also thought about doing a couple product specific shirts like Anabolic XT, Lean Edge, etc.

 

[Darkhorse192]

I'm thinking about doing a few different color shirts with the big blue SNS logo and also thought about doing a couple product specific shirts like Anabolic XT, Lean Edge, etc.

Powder / Baby blue shirt with white lettering and royal blue accents would be sick as hell

 

[sns8778]

Powder / Baby blue shirt with white lettering and royal blue accents would be sick as hell

That's a good idea. I like light colored blue shirts myself.

 

[sammpedd88]

That's a good idea. I like light colored blue shirts myself.

I’ll buy some!

 

[ramses31]

Yeah, there was a lot of confusion and debate over it. But then in some sale information, later on, they referred to it as Rauwolscine, which is Alpha Yohimbine. And at the time, that ingredient wasn't hardly used at all, and legit raws were hard to come by. So, it would have made a lot of sense for it being that.

But, also, back then was when there was still a bit of a USP Labs supposed connection, so that throws some possible skepticism on what it really was.

Personally, I found taking our Alpha Yohimbine and Higenamine to be just like it, so that's my best guess as to what it was and what made that product feel the way it did. But the FDA nixed Higenamine as a legal dietary supplement a couple years back.

I will try the Higenamine/Alpha-Y combo, it sounds goods.

 

[ramses31]

I'm thinking about doing a few different color shirts with the big blue SNS logo and also thought about doing a couple product specific shirts like Anabolic XT, Lean Edge, etc.

A single product like Byronia Laciniosa/Byroviron from SNS woud be great, its similar to Anacyclus and Spilanthes.

 

[sns8778]

A single product like Byronia Laciniosa/Byroviron from SNS woud be great, its similar to Anacyclus and Spilanthes.

That's one that we rarely ever get asked for. I'm familiar with it, but we don't have many requests from it, and I'm not a big fan of it personally - but would be open to it if enough people wanted one.

 

[ramses31]

That's one that we rarely ever get asked for. I'm familiar with it, but we don't have many requests from it, and I'm not a big fan of it personally - but would be open to it if enough people wanted one.

It increased Test, Lh and FSH in a dose dependent manner in only 28 days
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It also increased sex organ weight and improved libido so maybe its something you can think about for your Libido product or Standalone.

 

[sns8778]

It increased Test, Lh and FSH in a dose dependent manner in only 28 days
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It also increased sex organ weight and improved libido so maybe its something you can think about for your Libido product or Standalone.

I'm familiar with it - real world results just seem very mixed, feedback wise; and for the category, I just think that there are better ingredients, especially for the cost of it. I'm open to it as a single ingredient if enough people are interested though.

The libido product formula is actually already complete, and I honestly couldn't imagine adding anything else to it - it's going to target libido and sexual health from a variety of angles and should be very, very potent.

 

[N2ofusion]

Anything in the vision health area?

Thinking broadly:
-retina health
-optic nerve health
-reversing damage

Not sure of all the science but I’m sure you could do wonders there.

 

[sns8778]

Anything in the vision health area?

Thinking broadly:
-retina health
-optic nerve health
-reversing damage

Not sure of all the science but I’m sure you could do wonders there.

Yes, this is an area that I'm very passionate about, because as some on here know, I've been through hell with my eyes the last few years - I saw my fourth specialist yesterday at Duke Eye center.

I've always been one to try to use personal misfortune to collect knowledge and research and learn about things.

Eye and vision supplements are a weird category from a sales standpoint because there really aren't any products that I've seen that I consider outstanding, and the ones that sell the best really just sell based on their marketing. But, besides the marketing companies, the category itself doesn't really sell that well overall.

I have had a really comprehensive tentative formula done for awhile now, although still open to ideas and changes - and would love to release it within the next 6 months or so. I have something really cool and unique planned for the launch of it, something that is very special to me on a personal level, so I'm excited about this one.

 

[N2ofusion]

Yes, this is an area that I'm very passionate about, because as some on here know, I've been through hell with my eyes the last few years - I saw my fourth specialist yesterday at Duke Eye center.

I've always been one to try to use personal misfortune to collect knowledge and research and learn about things.

Eye and vision supplements are a weird category from a sales standpoint because there really aren't any products that I've seen that I consider outstanding, and the ones that sell the best really just sell based on their marketing. But, besides the marketing companies, the category itself doesn't really sell that well overall.

I have had a really comprehensive tentative formula done for awhile now, although still open to ideas and changes - and would love to release it within the next 6 months or so. I have something really cool and unique planned for the launch of it, something that is very special to me on a personal level, so I'm excited about this one.

Yeah, I saw an eye doctor about floaters. Nothing she could diagnose there, but did notice a few things going through the images- Central serous chorioretinopathy for one- and since I’m deathly afraid of people poking and inspecting my eyes, if I could address any of that through TRUSTWORTHY supplements I would do so 100%. I just assume what’s out there now is poorly formulated garbage.

 

[sns8778]

Yeah, I saw an eye doctor about floaters. Nothing she could diagnose there, but did notice a few things going through the images- Central serous chorioretinopathy for one- and since I’m deathly afraid of people poking and inspecting my eyes, if I could address any of that through TRUSTWORTHY supplements I would do so 100%. I just assume what’s out there now is poorly formulated garbage.

I agree with you in that I'm not aware of a really good comprehensively formulated vision product available. In researching for and designing the formula for ours, I looked at a lot of available ones and remember asking myself 'why would anyone buy this?' and 'how does this even make sense?' so many times.

I have several different issues going on with my eyes - I kept getting really bad knots on my eyelids from the myobian glands getting clogged. For a lot of people, when that happens, it leads to dry eye. For me, they kept producing and it caused the eyelids to swell and get knots in them. I had to have my eyelid cut open once bc they wanted to try to drain it - turned out it was for no reason bc the spot was actually scar tissue. The worst part is the numbing medication hadn't set properly - which I tried to tell them, but they didn't believe me - until they had the eyelid sliced open and I could feel them prodding around. They're like - we're going to stop and give you another numbing injection. I was like - hell no, you're in there now, finish it bc you're not sticking another needle in me today. That's what led to my referral do Duke Eye center.

The doctors at Duke have been great - but for each eye issue, you wind up with a different specialist, which is cool, but its a lot to go through. I've had 5 IPL procedures, which is basically where they shock you around 60 times with a laser and ten squeeze your eyelids with a device that basically looks like tweezers. That sucks as bad as it sounds like, but actually helped a lot. The worst there has been 5FU injections in the eyelid - basically injecting a medication that eats scar tissue - and it hurts as much or even more than it sounds like it does. The arm on the chair in that office they do it in looks like someone has been tortured in it from people grabbing and clawing it. But, it did do a great job at dissolving the scar tissue; but I can see why a lot of people couldn't handle that procedure bc injections in eyelids hurt like hell, and the medicine going in feels like acid.

 

[Maximiliaan]

Is there any way @sns8778 that you can license your best ever products kinda like how Desade did with his most popular product ever? I can’t say the names in here but I think you know what I’m talking about (discontinued CEL stuff)?

 

[Hyde]

I agree with you in that I'm not aware of a really good comprehensively formulated vision product available. In researching for and designing the formula for ours, I looked at a lot of available ones and remember asking myself 'why would anyone buy this?' and 'how does this even make sense?' so many times.

I have several different issues going on with my eyes - I kept getting really bad knots on my eyelids from the myobian glands getting clogged. For a lot of people, when that happens, it leads to dry eye. For me, they kept producing and it caused the eyelids to swell and get knots in them. I had to have my eyelid cut open once bc they wanted to try to drain it - turned out it was for no reason bc the spot was actually scar tissue. The worst part is the numbing medication hadn't set properly - which I tried to tell them, but they didn't believe me - until they had the eyelid sliced open and I could feel them prodding around. They're like - we're going to stop and give you another numbing injection. I was like - hell no, you're in there now, finish it bc you're not sticking another needle in me today. That's what led to my referral do Duke Eye center.

The doctors at Duke have been great - but for each eye issue, you wind up with a different specialist, which is cool, but its a lot to go through. I've had 5 IPL procedures, which is basically where they shock you around 60 times with a laser and ten squeeze your eyelids with a device that basically looks like tweezers. That sucks as bad as it sounds like, but actually helped a lot. The worst there has been 5FU injections in the eyelid - basically injecting a medication that eats scar tissue - and it hurts as much or even more than it sounds like it does. The arm on the chair in that office they do it in looks like someone has been tortured in it from people grabbing and clawing it. But, it did do a great job at dissolving the scar tissue; but I can see why a lot of people couldn't handle that procedure bc injections in eyelids hurt like hell, and the medicine going in feels like acid.

Yeah you’re definitely not selling me on the procedure

 

[sns8778]

Is there any way @sns8778 that you can license your best ever products kinda like how Desade did with his most popular product ever? I can’t say the names in here but I think you know what I’m talking about (discontinued CEL stuff)?

No. We are fully GMP compliant and spend many thousands of dollars per year on quality testing, and I have zero interest in being associated with products like that. Think about it - those ingredients are now illegal in the US and also illegal in China now, so there isn't even a legitimate supply chain anymore. It's basically companies buying from drug dealers in China and not testing their products, and just hoping that its what its supposed to be. That goes against everything we stand for as a company.

It was a different world back when a company could buy legitimate raw materials and have them tested; but those days are long gone.

 

[Supercellular]

No. We are fully GMP compliant and spend many thousands of dollars per year on quality testing, and I have zero interest in being associated with products like that. Think about it - those ingredients are now illegal in the US and also illegal in China now, so there isn't even a legitimate supply chain anymore. It's basically companies buying from drug dealers in China and not testing their products, and just hoping that its what its supposed to be. That goes against everything we stand for as a company.

It was a different world back when a company could buy legitimate raw materials and have them tested; but those days are long gone.

What about the kinda things similar but compliant in America? Like what blackstone, iron legion, muscle addiction have. Or things like 4-DHEA + throw in an AI and you’re golden as a user. That way you get the test without the estrogen.

 

[sns8778]

What about the kinda things similar but compliant in America? Like what blackstone, iron legion, muscle addiction have. Or things like 4-DHEA + throw in an AI and you’re golden as a user. That way you get the test without the estrogen.

What did you have in mind?

For 1-DHEA nd 4-DHEA, Hi-Tech has the patent on those.

For Androsta-3, 5-diene-7, 17-dione (commonly referred to as Arimistane), we have Muscle Addiction Eradicate-E.

For Epiandrosterone, we have it under Muscle Addiction in EpiAndro300 and EpiAndro Lean, and under CEL as Stano-Plex 300.

 

[Supercellular]

I see blackstone got Metha quad which is this profile. Have they licensed the 1/4 DHEA off hi-tech cos guessing that’s an option.

How about taking the top ingredient here + regular DHEA and then adding an AI?

or maybe something like the kinda topicals which primordial performance had (not the ph’s but they had some others, sustain alpha could be upgraded and I think in a topical it could work).

fwiw, that product I found great - not just for libido but even made my skin smooth although maybe I was just a younger guy lol.

7-oxo in a topical + some thermogenics (similar to avant labs napalm if you know of that) would be good. That stuff worked but nobody seems to make anything like that anymore.

Oh and a clone of anabeta elite would be cool.

 

[ramses31]

Yes, this is an area that I'm very passionate about, because as some on here know, I've been through hell with my eyes the last few years - I saw my fourth specialist yesterday at Duke Eye center.

I've always been one to try to use personal misfortune to collect knowledge and research and learn about things.

Eye and vision supplements are a weird category from a sales standpoint because there really aren't any products that I've seen that I consider outstanding, and the ones that sell the best really just sell based on their marketing. But, besides the marketing companies, the category itself doesn't really sell that well overall.

I have had a really comprehensive tentative formula done for awhile now, although still open to ideas and changes - and would love to release it within the next 6 months or so. I have something really cool and unique planned for the launch of it, something that is very special to me on a personal level, so I'm excited about this one.

What are your thoughts on Vinpocetine eye benefits ?