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SNS Anabolic XT - Hardcore Natural Anabolic Muscle Builder

We are doing everything that we can to get it back in stock as soon as possible. The raw materials are in and everything has been through testing and it's in the production lineup; there are just a few more things in front of it. It's the #1 priority to get back in stock, but even as #1 priority, if there are already some things in process, the cm has to finish those up first.

I can promise that no one wants it back in stock more than we do haha.

We have the batch coming in and already another production run lined up for right behind that, so we're doing everything that we can to make inventory adjustments to avoid out of stocks the best we can. I wish we were one of the huge companies that could afford to run infinite bottle production runs, but that's just not the case, so unfortunately increasing inventory levels on things is a process for us (as it is for any other small to medium sized company).
 
I'm just happy that business is good for you, after a pretty crappy year you deserve some Good !!
 
Rocket3015 said:
I'm just happy that business is good for you, after a pretty crappy year you deserve some Good !!
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Thank you. I really appreciate it.

This has been the roughest year of my life - physically, mentally/emotionally, and financially. The accident absolutely wrecked things for me on every level and I've spent pretty much the rest of the year in constant pain, but what's been worse than than the physical pain is that I've spent pretty much every second of every day in a constant state of anxiety and panic and just trying to get caught up at work and at life itself.

Business is doing okay, but overall just not nearly enough people know about us. It's one of those things where we make great products, but we just don't have the marketing budget to get our name out there to the general population.
 
Hey Steve know life has been crazy for you. Just wanted to reach out to you and see if maybe my wife can help you out. She is director of brand marketing for a company based in Manhattan. Maybe she could give you some ideas to help grow. Your products are amazing and would love to help. You can message me if you would like to chat about it.
My name is Tom. Been a quiet member for mannnnny years!!
 
sns8778 said:
We are doing everything that we can to get it back in stock as soon as possible. The raw materials are in and everything has been through testing and it's in the production lineup; there are just a few more things in front of it. It's the #1 priority to get back in stock, but even as #1 priority, if there are already some things in process, the cm has to finish those up first.

I can promise that no one wants it back in stock more than we do haha.

We have the batch coming in and already another production run lined up for right behind that, so we're doing everything that we can to make inventory adjustments to avoid out of stocks the best we can. I wish we were one of the huge companies that could afford to run infinite bottle production runs, but that's just not the case, so unfortunately increasing inventory levels on things is a process for us (as it is for any other small to medium sized company).
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I know waiting sucks but AXT is definitely worth the wait!!
 
You need to find a successful influencer that will work for product. I wish I was more active and had more followers I would do it for free, but I just don't have what it takes to create new content all the time.
 
Somebody recently asked Natural Body on the fly-by if they would start carrying SNS and Natural Body replied with "I think they're just a niche brand", and that was that. Didn't seem interested. Shrug.
 
BigGame84 said:
Somebody recently asked Natural Body on the fly-by if they would start carrying SNS and Natural Body replied with "I think they're just a niche brand", and that was that. Didn't seem interested. Shrug.
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not going to talk bad about them .. but everything will be "niche" for stores .. like steve said SNS doesn't have big name market influencer

Store carries 5%, glaxon ..can name 25+ other brands that they shouldnt carry but those sell over some of the brands here in AM that we love.
 
dukes3577 said:
What about reaching out to a few supplement reviewers on YouTube like ReviewBros etc.
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I've never looked specifically at them but a lot of reviewers only want to do things with bigger brands or people's brands that they know. I'll make a note to look into them more.

If I'm not mistaken, they do partnerships with brands or have their own product or something like that too.
 
BigGame84 said:
Somebody recently asked Natural Body on the fly-by if they would start carrying SNS and Natural Body replied with "I think they're just a niche brand", and that was that. Didn't seem interested. Shrug.
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That's an example of what we deal with on our end. I wouldn't say that we're a niche brand at all being that we have a ton of products and the diversity of them, but since we don't have a big marketing budget, I guess a lot of people assume that.
 
Rocket3015 said:
You need to find a successful influencer that will work for product. I wish I was more active and had more followers I would do it for free, but I just don't have what it takes to create new content all the time.
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I wish that it was easy to find an influencer that didn't charge a fortune, but we just don't have the capital to afford what most of the known ones want; and I bet I've given away thousands of dollars in product in exchange for reviews from lesser known ones and most don't even actually do the reviews and if they do, they're so half hearted that they may was well not have.
 
titanium3m said:
Hey Steve know life has been crazy for you. Just wanted to reach out to you and see if maybe my wife can help you out. She is director of brand marketing for a company based in Manhattan. Maybe she could give you some ideas to help grow. Your products are amazing and would love to help. You can message me if you would like to chat about it.
My name is Tom. Been a quiet member for mannnnny years!!
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Thank you for the offer and the kind words. I really appreciate that.

I'll send you a pm.
 
Resolve10 said:
I mean I don’t shop there anymore pretty much because they don’t carry SNS. They do carry a whole bunch of other fluff tho. 🙄
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yeah so so and so can make shiner labels and copy cel mtest or sns anabolic XT and price it $10-20/more and it will sell and they will still complaint about us being not original

schucks but thats the game .. i always try to promote it on IG here and there .. hopefully well get there and we get recognized outside of forums .. def deserve it
 
Z28Luver7777 said:
Any chance if a presale? Just so we could lock in our spots on receiving Anabolic XT when it first comes out?
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There is a good chance that the next batch will sell out very quickly.

I thought about doing a presale on the batch that will be coming in in order to let people make sure that they get it and to also take advantage of the upcoming New Years sale, but there is just no way to give a concrete ETA on when a product will arrive back in stock for sure.

I do want to make sure that people that want to make sure that they get it are able to though, so for anyone that wants to make sure they get however many that they want and get to take advantage of the New Years sale discounts - send me a pm and I'll work with you on making sure that you can get it shipped to you as soon as its available.
 
ToDie4Test said:
What's more likely to restock first -- the SNS website or DPS?
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The SNS website is always going to be the first place to restock on things because it would arrive back in stock here and then we would ship to retailers. So even if a retailer has a backorder, it still has to get here first in order to be shipped to them.
 
I wanted to let everyone following the thread know that the New Year Sale is now live.

Save 30% off all SNS products including already discounted stacks and multi-packs with coupon code newyears30

We are out of stock of Anabolic XT at the moment, but for anyone that wants to take advantage of the sale price on Anabolic XT, you're welcome to pm me and if you have Cashapp or Zelle, I can help; we just don't have a way to do any type of presale on the restock thru the website - bc the eta on it is approx. 2 weeks but there's just no way to know for sure, so I don't want to do it publicly and risk upsetting people.

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sns8778 said:
Anabolic XT and Anabolic Effect are both natural anabolics but are two completely different products. I don't think its possible to directly compare the two because they're so different and which you like better between the two will likely depend on what the person is looking for. I think that they will make a great stack together.
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Would it be overkill to full dose both AE and AXT stack? Would you still get optimal results half dosing each, or just full dose both?
 
Bigbri01 said:
Would it be overkill to full dose both AE and AXT stack? Would you still get optimal results half dosing each, or just full dose both?
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I never tried any other dosing scheme, but I took a full dose of each first thing in the morning before working out. Absolutely spectacular results. I threw them in for some PCT gains coming off a PH stack, and strength kept climbing. It was explosive the first two weeks, then leveled off but kept going up. It was nuts and I can’t wait to run them again!
 
Is there any anti-estrogen or estrogen reducing properties in anabolic XT? Just got back blood work and estradiol was high but total test was in 500 range. Re-testing today to get free test measured and a couple others doc missed
 
cbr1000rr said:
Is there any anti-estrogen or estrogen reducing properties in anabolic XT? Just got back blood work and estradiol was high but total test was in 500 range. Re-testing today to get free test measured and a couple others doc missed
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To my knowledge, nothing will have any real effect on estrogen. If that’s a concern, you may want to add something else to it.
 
Bigbri01 said:
Would it be overkill to full dose both AE and AXT stack? Would you still get optimal results half dosing each, or just full dose both?
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Not overkill at all, Anabolic Effect and Anabolic XT make a great stack.

I would absolutely do the full dose of each; I would not do half doses of either one. The way that the ingredients work, they need to be dosed properly and I'm not saying that you wouldn't get any results if half dosing them, but I think that you'd really be shortchanging yourself.

As soon as I can start training again, this is actually the stack that I'm looking forward to the most.
 
cbr1000rr said:
Is there any anti-estrogen or estrogen reducing properties in anabolic XT? Just got back blood work and estradiol was high but total test was in 500 range. Re-testing today to get free test measured and a couple others doc missed
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Anabolic XT is a great product but if you're looking for something to help reduce estrogen/estradiol, then I would suggest either Inhibit-E or Cloma-Plex.

Cloma-Plex is a great product that shares some similar ingredients to Anabolic XT but is designed to be more like a natural alternative to TRT in the sense that it has natural anabolic properties and helps increase natural testosterone levels while also having ingredients in it to help decrease estrogen.

Cloma-Plex - write up - https://seriousnutritionsolutions.com/product/inhibit-e/
Cloma-Plex - intro thread - https://anabolicminds.com/community...rone-booster-estrogen-control-support.330852/

Inhibit-E is a very comprehensive estrogen control product that can be stacked with Anabolic XT or almost anything else and has years of great feedback on it for reducing estrogen. We have a lot of positive feedback on it from men who use it on cycle, in PCT, with TRT, and for general health purposes of helping reduce estrogen levels.

A very significant thing with Inhibit-E is that it is designed to help modulate and regulate estrogen, not crush it, and therefore you don't have the worries of estrogen rebound that come along with some things.

Here is a link for the full Inhibit-E write up: https://competitiveedgelabs.com/product/cloma-plex/

I hope that information helps. If you have any questions, please let me know.
 
sns8778 said:
Anabolic XT is a great product but if you're looking for something to help reduce estrogen/estradiol, then I would suggest either Inhibit-E or Cloma-Plex.

Cloma-Plex is a great product that shares some similar ingredients to Anabolic XT but is designed to be more like a natural alternative to TRT in the sense that it has natural anabolic properties and helps increase natural testosterone levels while also having ingredients in it to help decrease estrogen.

Cloma-Plex - write up - https://seriousnutritionsolutions.com/product/inhibit-e/
Cloma-Plex - intro thread - https://anabolicminds.com/community...rone-booster-estrogen-control-support.330852/

Inhibit-E is a very comprehensive estrogen control product that can be stacked with Anabolic XT or almost anything else and has years of great feedback on it for reducing estrogen. We have a lot of positive feedback on it from men who use it on cycle, in PCT, with TRT, and for general health purposes of helping reduce estrogen levels.

A very significant thing with Inhibit-E is that it is designed to help modulate and regulate estrogen, not crush it, and therefore you don't have the worries of estrogen rebound that come along with some things.

Here is a link for the full Inhibit-E write up: https://competitiveedgelabs.com/product/cloma-plex/

I hope that information helps. If you have any questions, please let me know.
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Thanks. How far out till restock on anabolic XT arrives?
 
cbr1000rr said:
Thanks. How far out till restock on anabolic XT arrives?
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We hope to have it back in stock within a couple of weeks.

It is and has been our main priority to get back in stock, there were just a lot of projects already in process in front of it - but its in process now so it shouldn't be long if all goes well.
 
BigGame84 said:
"About a couple weeks".
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We do the best that we can do.

As a company owner, I can promise that no one wants the product back in stock more than I do because every day that a product is out of stock hurts myself and my companies financially and the negativity and comments from some people really bother me personally; so much so that that’s one of the reasons that some days I don’t even log in here anymore.

There is a lot more that goes into making products that people realize, especially products like Anabolic XT that contain multiple branded ingredients and unique specific extracts and ingredients; and especially when a company is fully GMP compliant and does all of the testing that we do.

We aren't one of the companies that are just receiving raw materials in and not testing them and encapsulating and bottling them ourselves.

We are an FDA registered GMP compliant company that only use FDA registered GMP compliant contract manufacturing facilities that follow proper guidelines, testing protocols, etc. This is a process and it has to be done a certain way; and unfortunately, that takes time - especially when having 70+ products.

When I give an ETA, I give the best estimate that I can at the time - and the reason I don't like giving ETA's is that so many things can happen and delay things.

Examples:
  • One ingredient being late can bump a product from one week's production schedule to the next because the next product on the priority list gets started in its place.
  • Independent testing facilities sometimes get backed up and test results that would normally take 7 to 10 days to get back can sometimes take up to 2 to 3 weeks.
  • Capsule equipment is like any other manufacturing equipment and sometimes breaks or needs unexpected maintenance.

I wish that we were some mega marketing company that could afford massive production runs and unlimited advertisements to sell more products, but that's just not the case. We have to run production runs based off of raw material availability and also the size runs that we can afford to do and then adjust and scale up accordingly. For example, with Anabolic XT, we have the production run in process and then already have 2 more PO's in spaced out periods apart to try to get ahead of it and try to avoid future out of stocks.

But its a process - I missed more work time last year because of my accident than I have in my adult life, and its a process that I've worked 70+ hours every single week since the very first week I was able to get up out of the wheelchair trying to get caught up at work, battle with the supply chain issues trying to get things back in stock, get and keep inventory in stock, and still be active here and try to help people and bring out new products that people want.

My hope and thought had been that we offer enough cool products that as much as being out of stock of something may suck, I hope(d) that people could find other cool things by us to use and try while waiting for others to come back in stock.

I try so hard to help people and give people what they want; I appreciate it and enjoy it when people are excited to try products and looking forward to things being back in stock; but the amount of negativity and comments in the last 6 months here on AM about eta's has made me question whether I want to continue to post here on AM and also whether I even want to continue on in this industry bc they really take a toll on me mentally.

I do the best that I can do but I'm only willing to either do things the right way or not at all.
 
sns8778 said:
We do the best that we can do.

As a company owner, I can promise that no one wants the product back in stock more than I do because every day that a product is out of stock hurts myself and my companies financially and the negativity and comments from some people really bother me personally; so much so that that’s one of the reasons that some days I don’t even log in here anymore.

There is a lot more that goes into making products that people realize, especially products like Anabolic XT that contain multiple branded ingredients and unique specific extracts and ingredients; and especially when a company is fully GMP compliant and does all of the testing that we do.

We aren't one of the companies that are just receiving raw materials in and not testing them and encapsulating and bottling them ourselves.

We are an FDA registered GMP compliant company that only use FDA registered GMP compliant contract manufacturing facilities that follow proper guidelines, testing protocols, etc. This is a process and it has to be done a certain way; and unfortunately, that takes time - especially when having 70+ products.

When I give an ETA, I give the best estimate that I can at the time - and the reason I don't like giving ETA's is that so many things can happen and delay things.

Examples:
  • One ingredient being late can bump a product from one week's production schedule to the next because the next product on the priority list gets started in its place.
  • Independent testing facilities sometimes get backed up and test results that would normally take 7 to 10 days to get back can sometimes take up to 2 to 3 weeks.
  • Capsule equipment is like any other manufacturing equipment and sometimes breaks or needs unexpected maintenance.

I wish that we were some mega marketing company that could afford massive production runs and unlimited advertisements to sell more products, but that's just not the case. We have to run production runs based off of raw material availability and also the size runs that we can afford to do and then adjust and scale up accordingly. For example, with Anabolic XT, we have the production run in process and then already have 2 more PO's in spaced out periods apart to try to get ahead of it and try to avoid future out of stocks.

But its a process - I missed more work time last year because of my accident than I have in my adult life, and its a process that I've worked 70+ hours every single week since the very first week I was able to get up out of the wheelchair trying to get caught up at work, battle with the supply chain issues trying to get things back in stock, get and keep inventory in stock, and still be active here and try to help people and bring out new products that people want.

My hope and thought had been that we offer enough cool products that as much as being out of stock of something may suck, I hope(d) that people could find other cool things by us to use and try while waiting for others to come back in stock.

I try so hard to help people and give people what they want; I appreciate it and enjoy it when people are excited to try products and looking forward to things being back in stock; but the amount of negativity and comments in the last 6 months here on AM about eta's has made me question whether I want to continue to post here on AM and also whether I even want to continue on in this industry bc they really take a toll on me mentally.

I do the best that I can do but I'm only willing to either do things the right way or not at all.
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Have you ever thought of dropping products that don’t really do that well for you so you could focus on the big sellers for you. I can’t imagine all your single ingredient products do well enough to slow down production on some of your real solid sellers.
 
Steve, don't let the negativity get you down, some people just can't help it. I as well as a lot of other people enjoy your products and the personal touches you offer, my wife ask me the other day when you texted me "Who's SNS Steve" I said it's the guy that owns the company that makes that Stress & Anxiety supplement you like so much, "Why is he texting you? " my replay Because he cares! Thank you for doing what you do and caring about the people you help !! The industry is a better with you in it!
 
BillD said:
Have you ever thought of dropping products that don’t really do that well for you so you could focus on the big sellers for you. I can’t imagine all your single ingredient products do well enough to slow down production on some of your real solid sellers.
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Im sure he's aware of what sells .. but restocking no matter what will be difficult.
Just sucks in a time we are living in .. im sure who wouldn't want to continue to restock PA back to back to back and never run out . but once it runs out the cycle starts all over again right.

Pretty positive no solo ingredient will push the date back .. and reason why solo ingredients come out bc of request in the other thread he listens to other people and helps out any and every way for provide the branded ingredient at cheaper cost then other co.
 
sns8778 said:
We do the best that we can do.

As a company owner, I can promise that no one wants the product back in stock more than I do because every day that a product is out of stock hurts myself and my companies financially and the negativity and comments from some people really bother me personally; so much so that that’s one of the reasons that some days I don’t even log in here anymore.

There is a lot more that goes into making products that people realize, especially products like Anabolic XT that contain multiple branded ingredients and unique specific extracts and ingredients; and especially when a company is fully GMP compliant and does all of the testing that we do.

We aren't one of the companies that are just receiving raw materials in and not testing them and encapsulating and bottling them ourselves.

We are an FDA registered GMP compliant company that only use FDA registered GMP compliant contract manufacturing facilities that follow proper guidelines, testing protocols, etc. This is a process and it has to be done a certain way; and unfortunately, that takes time - especially when having 70+ products.

When I give an ETA, I give the best estimate that I can at the time - and the reason I don't like giving ETA's is that so many things can happen and delay things.

Examples:
  • One ingredient being late can bump a product from one week's production schedule to the next because the next product on the priority list gets started in its place.
  • Independent testing facilities sometimes get backed up and test results that would normally take 7 to 10 days to get back can sometimes take up to 2 to 3 weeks.
  • Capsule equipment is like any other manufacturing equipment and sometimes breaks or needs unexpected maintenance.
I wish that we were some mega marketing company that could afford massive production runs and unlimited advertisements to sell more products, but that's just not the case. We have to run production runs based off of raw material availability and also the size runs that we can afford to do and then adjust and scale up accordingly. For example, with Anabolic XT, we have the production run in process and then already have 2 more PO's in spaced out periods apart to try to get ahead of it and try to avoid future out of stocks.

But its a process - I missed more work time last year because of my accident than I have in my adult life, and its a process that I've worked 70+ hours every single week since the very first week I was able to get up out of the wheelchair trying to get caught up at work, battle with the supply chain issues trying to get things back in stock, get and keep inventory in stock, and still be active here and try to help people and bring out new products that people want.

My hope and thought had been that we offer enough cool products that as much as being out of stock of something may suck, I hope(d) that people could find other cool things by us to use and try while waiting for others to come back in stock.

I try so hard to help people and give people what they want; I appreciate it and enjoy it when people are excited to try products and looking forward to things being back in stock; but the amount of negativity and comments in the last 6 months here on AM about eta's has made me question whether I want to continue to post here on AM and also whether I even want to continue on in this industry bc they really take a toll on me mentally.

I do the best that I can do but I'm only willing to either do things the right way or not at all.
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It's not just here, I have seen a steady decline in the level of civility on all the platforms I am on regularly. Individuals who I have interacted with for years have just gone off the deep end. Rudeness, ill-tempered, critical of everything and everybody with an overwhelming level of vitriol and negativity seem to be the new norm. It really is disconcerting.

I can say for certain that the general mental health of the world has gone off a proverbial cliff. The world is unhealthy and that is worrisome.

I try to not take is personally as I know these people are simply unwell but I do look forward to the day when technology allows me to punch people in the nose through a broadband connection.
 
GQdaLEGEND said:
Im sure he's aware of what sells .. but restocking no matter what will be difficult.
Just sucks in a time we are living in .. im sure who wouldn't want to continue to restock PA back to back to back and never run out . but once it runs out the cycle starts all over again right.

Pretty positive no solo ingredient will push the date back .. and reason why solo ingredients come out bc of request in the other thread he listens to other people and helps out any and every way for provide the branded ingredient at cheaper cost then other co.
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Only mentioned it because Steve has said numerous times that sometimes other older products take priority over new releases/newer products. I’m sure he makes a tad bit more profit off anabolic XT vs vaso6 just as an example. Wasn’t knocking Steve or sns at all, my cupboards are full of his stuff…just throwing ideas out to make his life easier.
 
BillD said:
Have you ever thought of dropping products that don’t really do that well for you so you could focus on the big sellers for you. I can’t imagine all your single ingredient products do well enough to slow down production on some of your real solid sellers.
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GQdaLEGEND said:
Im sure he's aware of what sells .. but restocking no matter what will be difficult.
Just sucks in a time we are living in .. im sure who wouldn't want to continue to restock PA back to back to back and never run out . but once it runs out the cycle starts all over again right.

Pretty positive no solo ingredient will push the date back .. and reason why solo ingredients come out bc of request in the other thread he listens to other people and helps out any and every way for provide the branded ingredient at cheaper cost then other co.
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BillD said:
Only mentioned it because Steve has said numerous times that sometimes other older products take priority over new releases/newer products. I’m sure he makes a tad bit more profit off anabolic XT vs vaso6 just as an example. Wasn’t knocking Steve or sns at all, my cupboards are full of his stuff…just throwing ideas out to make his life easier.
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I'll reply to all three of these posts together since they all kind of go together.
And @BillD, no worries, I know you didn't mean anything bad by it and were just trying to be helpful.

We do drop products that don't sell very well and also de-prioritize some that sell well enough to continue to make but not well enough to prioritize and those keep getting pushed back or wind up falling into place in between runs of the others - for example, if there is line time for a quick single ingredient run and its a stock raw material at the cm and they have it on hand and nothing extra needs to be done besides run it, that's how those fall into play. They don't really push back anything else, they just aren't the priority to put in front of anything else and they kind of fall where they fall if that makes sense.

We do have a system in place that prioritizes reorders and PO's - but one has to realize that there is no guarantee how well new releases are going to sell and sometimes we have to see how things sell to know how to scale up production run sizes; and especially when working with a lot of branded and specialty ingredients, that can take time.

But also, some of the products that sell the best aren't necessarily the ones that people think sell the best.

For example, hardly anyone here on AM mentions Thermagize XT and anytime someone does, 3 to 5 people have to bitch and complain about it having Rauwolscine in it, but reality is that its one of our best selling products and overall people love it and we have a lot of positive feedback on it and some really inspirational success stories from people that have lost major amounts of weight on it.

Another example - most would probably be shocked to hear that Choline Citrate powder and PEA-500 Xtreme (phenethylamine hcl), neither of which hardly ever get mentioned here on AM outsell things like Yohimbine HCI that many people on here use for fat loss, but the ones that do apparently aren't supporting us bc they never mention ours. But like for Choline Citrate, its a great choline source and it is actually a lot better of a choline source for stacking with certain advanced nootropics than things like Alpha GPC, but I don't even bother to explain it on here anymore because the attitude of a lot of people when I bring it up is that they don't want to learn, they just want to be right, so I just don't mention it anymore.

GQ is pretty much correct in that single ingredients don't push the other things back very much because they are most commonly the ones that get pushed back, which I hate doing also though bc some people depend on many of them and we do everything we can to get the most popular ones back in stock and keep them in stock the best we can.

And I knew you didn't mention or mean it in a bad way; but what I mean about sometimes older products take priority over new products and new releases is that an existing good seller like Inhibit-E or Inhibit-P may get bumped into the production schedule ahead of a new release like Daily Gains for example because they already sell well, we have customers depending on them, we have backorders from retailers on them, etc.

Kind of like now that Anabolic XT, Phosphatidic Acid XT, Recomp20, and Thermo Scorch are existing products and we have a feel for how to stage production runs for them, they will take priority over new releases like Daily Gains - bc the truth is, a lot of people on here are excited about Daily Gains and I am too, but until it launches, we really have no idea if it will actually sell well or not, so the priority is making sure we have existing sellers in stock first.

^^^^ But on the reverse side, I'll have people make negative or underhanded comments in other threads about how we've been talking about a daily use ergogenic forever, and we have - but the main delay was the insane supply chain price increases on some of the raws - and they are coming back down and making the product more feasible to move forward on now, but it is in no way a priority to bring it out until we get things like Anabolic XT, Recomp20, Phosphatidic Acid XT, Thermo Scorch, and GlycoPhase back in stock if that makes sense.

As for the part where you said about making more profit off Anabolic XT than some other things, that is a great example of a product that costs so much to make that when we sell it wholesale to resellers or people wait for the 30% off sales to buy it, you'd be surprised as we don't make nearly off of it what people may think because we go pretty low margin on that to make it available at a good price. Even though its not a cheap product for consumers to buy, its crazy expensive for us to make and also going back to what I said about us being GMP and doing all the proper testing, we literally have several thousand dollars per batch tied up in testing. And I don't say that in a complaining sense at all because that's something that I'm very happy about - that we're able to offer a great product like this at a price that people can afford.

I hope all of this makes sense.
 
sns8778 said:
I'll reply to all three of these posts together since they all kind of go together.
And @BillD, no worries, I know you didn't mean anything bad by it and were just trying to be helpful.

We do drop products that don't sell very well and also de-prioritize some that sell well enough to continue to make but not well enough to prioritize and those keep getting pushed back or wind up falling into place in between runs of the others - for example, if there is line time for a quick single ingredient run and its a stock raw material at the cm and they have it on hand and nothing extra needs to be done besides run it, that's how those fall into play. They don't really push back anything else, they just aren't the priority to put in front of anything else and they kind of fall where they fall if that makes sense.

We do have a system in place that prioritizes reorders and PO's - but one has to realize that there is no guarantee how well new releases are going to sell and sometimes we have to see how things sell to know how to scale up production run sizes; and especially when working with a lot of branded and specialty ingredients, that can take time.

But also, some of the products that sell the best aren't necessarily the ones that people think sell the best.

For example, hardly anyone here on AM mentions Thermagize XT and anytime someone does, 3 to 5 people have to bitch and complain about it having Rauwolscine in it, but reality is that its one of our best selling products and overall people love it and we have a lot of positive feedback on it and some really inspirational success stories from people that have lost major amounts of weight on it.

Another example - most would probably be shocked to hear that Choline Citrate powder and PEA-500 Xtreme (phenethylamine hcl), neither of which hardly ever get mentioned here on AM outsell things like Yohimbine HCI that many people on here use for fat loss, but the ones that do apparently aren't supporting us bc they never mention ours. But like for Choline Citrate, its a great choline source and it is actually a lot better of a choline source for stacking with certain advanced nootropics than things like Alpha GPC, but I don't even bother to explain it on here anymore because the attitude of a lot of people when I bring it up is that they don't want to learn, they just want to be right, so I just don't mention it anymore.

GQ is pretty much correct in that single ingredients don't push the other things back very much because they are most commonly the ones that get pushed back, which I hate doing also though bc some people depend on many of them and we do everything we can to get the most popular ones back in stock and keep them in stock the best we can.

And I knew you didn't mention or mean it in a bad way; but what I mean about sometimes older products take priority over new products and new releases is that an existing good seller like Inhibit-E or Inhibit-P may get bumped into the production schedule ahead of a new release like Daily Gains for example because they already sell well, we have customers depending on them, we have backorders from retailers on them, etc.

Kind of like now that Anabolic XT, Phosphatidic Acid XT, Recomp20, and Thermo Scorch are existing products and we have a feel for how to stage production runs for them, they will take priority over new releases like Daily Gains - bc the truth is, a lot of people on here are excited about Daily Gains and I am too, but until it launches, we really have no idea if it will actually sell well or not, so the priority is making sure we have existing sellers in stock first.

^^^^ But on the reverse side, I'll have people make negative or underhanded comments in other threads about how we've been talking about a daily use ergogenic forever, and we have - but the main delay was the insane supply chain price increases on some of the raws - and they are coming back down and making the product more feasible to move forward on now, but it is in no way a priority to bring it out until we get things like Anabolic XT, Recomp20, Phosphatidic Acid XT, Thermo Scorch, and GlycoPhase back in stock if that makes sense.

As for the part where you said about making more profit off Anabolic XT than some other things, that is a great example of a product that costs so much to make that when we sell it wholesale to resellers or people wait for the 30% off sales to buy it, you'd be surprised as we don't make nearly off of it what people may think because we go pretty low margin on that to make it available at a good price. Even though its not a cheap product for consumers to buy, its crazy expensive for us to make and also going back to what I said about us being GMP and doing all the proper testing, we literally have several thousand dollars per batch tied up in testing. And I don't say that in a complaining sense at all because that's something that I'm very happy about - that we're able to offer a great product like this at a price that people can afford.

I hope all of this makes sense.
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It all 100% makes sense. In the end I enjoy everything I’ve tried from your companies and just want to see you do well and succeed. I give you all the credit in the world for being on here and actually communicating with your customers. You have answered many of my direct messages and and comments on here…stand up guy and company in my eyes…as small as a customer I am.
 
BCseacow83 said:
It's not just here, I have seen a steady decline in the level of civility on all the platforms I am on regularly. Individuals who I have interacted with for years have just gone off the deep end. Rudeness, ill-tempered, critical of everything and everybody with an overwhelming level of vitriol and negativity seem to be the new norm. It really is disconcerting.

I can say for certain that the general mental health of the world has gone off a proverbial cliff. The world is unhealthy and that is worrisome.

I try to not take is personally as I know these people are simply unwell but I do look forward to the day when technology allows me to punch people in the nose through a broadband connection.
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I absolutely agree.

I'm not the typical company owner in this industry - not that there's anything wrong with the ones that are - I just mean that I really enjoy helping people but its that same caring about helping people that can lead me to easily getting my feelings hurt or discouraged when I feel like I'm constantly getting beat to death by negativity and underhanded comments on every little thing.

Like today, my plan for the day besides doing my work was that I was going to create a new tell us what you want thread, a thread about out of stock/in stock status to use as a master thread, a thread of new products that people could expect in 2023, etc. But all of that got thrown off because of some of the negativity in various threads and just really ruined my whole day. It gave me the quick reminder that what I was thinking would be a fun thread of letting people know what to expect from us in 2023 could easily just become a complaining about ETA's getting pushed back or things getting delayed and that I may be better just to keep them to myself like I used to.

I think when I manage to calm down, I'm going to post up a couple of new threads and then just try to check in here every day or two and see how the discussion is going and maybe post some updates, but I've got to have a break from the negativity for my own mental health.

I want to clarify that nothing I'm saying at all is related to @cbr1000rr who asked when Anabolic XT would be back in stock. I'm always glad to answer questions like that; it has to do with the negativity and complaining in a cumulation of threads about stock statuses - when ironically, we're operating at a higher in stock % rate than most companies in the industry as you can probably attest to, being that you have a store.
 
BillD said:
It all 100% makes sense. In the end I enjoy everything I’ve tried from your companies and just want to see you do well and succeed. I give you all the credit in the world for being on here and actually communicating with your customers. You have answered many of my direct messages and and comments on here…stand up guy and company in my eyes…as small as a customer I am.
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Thank you. I really appreciate that.

I enjoy helping people and am always glad to answer questions and help people in any way that I can.
 
Rocket3015 said:
Steve, don't let the negativity get you down, some people just can't help it. I as well as a lot of other people enjoy your products and the personal touches you offer, my wife ask me the other day when you texted me "Who's SNS Steve" I said it's the guy that owns the company that makes that Stress & Anxiety supplement you like so much, "Why is he texting you? " my replay Because he cares! Thank you for doing what you do and caring about the people you help !! The industry is a better with you in it!
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Thank you. I really appreciate the kind words.

I try really hard not to let things bother me or bring me down; but I think that its the same part of me that cares so much about helping people that leaves me open to getting my feelings hurt or it bringing me down when people make a lot of comments that they do on here.

I'm glad that your wife likes Stress & Anxiety Support; its a great product that I think unfortunately doesn't get nearly enough talk and attention on here.

And that's very nice; I appreciate that. And I really do care.

For me, I love helping people in general and supplements are an extension of that - I love the science and the ingredients and the goal with SNS has always been to help people reach their goals and improve their quality of life and hopefully their self esteem by providing top quality products and the best formulas to people at prices that they could afford.
 
sns8778 said:
I'll reply to all three of these posts together since they all kind of go together.
And @BillD, no worries, I know you didn't mean anything bad by it and were just trying to be helpful.

We do drop products that don't sell very well and also de-prioritize some that sell well enough to continue to make but not well enough to prioritize and those keep getting pushed back or wind up falling into place in between runs of the others - for example, if there is line time for a quick single ingredient run and its a stock raw material at the cm and they have it on hand and nothing extra needs to be done besides run it, that's how those fall into play. They don't really push back anything else, they just aren't the priority to put in front of anything else and they kind of fall where they fall if that makes sense.

We do have a system in place that prioritizes reorders and PO's - but one has to realize that there is no guarantee how well new releases are going to sell and sometimes we have to see how things sell to know how to scale up production run sizes; and especially when working with a lot of branded and specialty ingredients, that can take time.

But also, some of the products that sell the best aren't necessarily the ones that people think sell the best.

For example, hardly anyone here on AM mentions Thermagize XT and anytime someone does, 3 to 5 people have to bitch and complain about it having Rauwolscine in it, but reality is that its one of our best selling products and overall people love it and we have a lot of positive feedback on it and some really inspirational success stories from people that have lost major amounts of weight on it.

Another example - most would probably be shocked to hear that Choline Citrate powder and PEA-500 Xtreme (phenethylamine hcl), neither of which hardly ever get mentioned here on AM outsell things like Yohimbine HCI that many people on here use for fat loss, but the ones that do apparently aren't supporting us bc they never mention ours. But like for Choline Citrate, its a great choline source and it is actually a lot better of a choline source for stacking with certain advanced nootropics than things like Alpha GPC, but I don't even bother to explain it on here anymore because the attitude of a lot of people when I bring it up is that they don't want to learn, they just want to be right, so I just don't mention it anymore.

GQ is pretty much correct in that single ingredients don't push the other things back very much because they are most commonly the ones that get pushed back, which I hate doing also though bc some people depend on many of them and we do everything we can to get the most popular ones back in stock and keep them in stock the best we can.

And I knew you didn't mention or mean it in a bad way; but what I mean about sometimes older products take priority over new products and new releases is that an existing good seller like Inhibit-E or Inhibit-P may get bumped into the production schedule ahead of a new release like Daily Gains for example because they already sell well, we have customers depending on them, we have backorders from retailers on them, etc.

Kind of like now that Anabolic XT, Phosphatidic Acid XT, Recomp20, and Thermo Scorch are existing products and we have a feel for how to stage production runs for them, they will take priority over new releases like Daily Gains - bc the truth is, a lot of people on here are excited about Daily Gains and I am too, but until it launches, we really have no idea if it will actually sell well or not, so the priority is making sure we have existing sellers in stock first.

^^^^ But on the reverse side, I'll have people make negative or underhanded comments in other threads about how we've been talking about a daily use ergogenic forever, and we have - but the main delay was the insane supply chain price increases on some of the raws - and they are coming back down and making the product more feasible to move forward on now, but it is in no way a priority to bring it out until we get things like Anabolic XT, Recomp20, Phosphatidic Acid XT, Thermo Scorch, and GlycoPhase back in stock if that makes sense.

As for the part where you said about making more profit off Anabolic XT than some other things, that is a great example of a product that costs so much to make that when we sell it wholesale to resellers or people wait for the 30% off sales to buy it, you'd be surprised as we don't make nearly off of it what people may think because we go pretty low margin on that to make it available at a good price. Even though its not a cheap product for consumers to buy, its crazy expensive for us to make and also going back to what I said about us being GMP and doing all the proper testing, we literally have several thousand dollars per batch tied up in testing. And I don't say that in a complaining sense at all because that's something that I'm very happy about - that we're able to offer a great product like this at a price that people can afford.

I hope all of this makes sense.
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Hey Steve, please excuse my ignorance but I may have missed this mentioned previous. What is the new upcoming product Daily Gains?
Love your work mate, you are a true gentleman and one who obviously care for his customers.
 
Bigbri01 said:
Hey Steve, please excuse my ignorance but I may have missed this mentioned previous. What is the new upcoming product Daily Gains?
Love your work mate, you are a true gentleman and one who obviously care for his customers.
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Thank you for the kind words. I really appreciate it.

Daily Gains is the name of the upcoming daily use ergogenic formula. It will be a formula to cover the muscle building basics at a cost effective price and in one convenient formula.

There are a lot of ingredients now days that are used in pre-workouts for example that are included more for name value and sales purposes, which I understand from a sales perspective, but that people never get the maximum results from these ingredients because they have to be used daily for best results.
 
Thank you for taking the time and giving us some insight in to the business!
 
sns8778 said:
I absolutely agree.

I'm not the typical company owner in this industry - not that there's anything wrong with the ones that are - I just mean that I really enjoy helping people but its that same caring about helping people that can lead me to easily getting my feelings hurt or discouraged when I feel like I'm constantly getting beat to death by negativity and underhanded comments on every little thing.

Like today, my plan for the day besides doing my work was that I was going to create a new tell us what you want thread, a thread about out of stock/in stock status to use as a master thread, a thread of new products that people could expect in 2023, etc. But all of that got thrown off because of some of the negativity in various threads and just really ruined my whole day. It gave me the quick reminder that what I was thinking would be a fun thread of letting people know what to expect from us in 2023 could easily just become a complaining about ETA's getting pushed back or things getting delayed and that I may be better just to keep them to myself like I used to.

I think when I manage to calm down, I'm going to post up a couple of new threads and then just try to check in here every day or two and see how the discussion is going and maybe post some updates, but I've got to have a break from the negativity for my own mental health.

I want to clarify that nothing I'm saying at all is related to @cbr1000rr who asked when Anabolic XT would be back in stock. I'm always glad to answer questions like that; it has to do with the negativity and complaining in a cumulation of threads about stock statuses - when ironically, we're operating at a higher in stock % rate than most companies in the industry as you can probably attest to, being that you have a store.
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Yeah, I don’t get the negativity at all. These are insider-oriented threads, all of which we are reading based on interest. People act like their credit card was already charged! I don’t see what’s wrong with waiting for the supply chain to run it’s course, and regardless, why would someone hold that against Steve?

Also we really have to look at the total portfolio of releases, there’s been a ton of them last year, even more than Muscletech or Cellucor (C4). Neither of which has their ceo on here chatting with us.

Steve, I would filter those complaints out as best you can. They don’t really reflect your customer base!
 
Also, some products like Yohimbine HCl don’t get mentioned much, Huperzine A, solo Paradoxine, for example, but they are good dependable staples. “No news is good news” right, just know they are in my cabinet, cleanly dosed and consistently high quality. So yeah, it generates solid re-orders more so than conversation, but I run these a lot so I wanted to throw that out there.

Also SNS Paradoxine alone is probably the best fat loss per dollar I’ve ever noticed. 2 caps a day for 10-12 weeks and I’m feeling slim and trim every time
 
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