CEL Cloma-Plex - Natural Testosterone Booster & Estrogen Control Support

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Natural Testosterone & Libido Booster
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1,500 Mg. Symplocos Racemosa (as SR10X™)
1,200 Mg. E. Cottonii
600 Mg. Ellagic Acid
500 Mg. Spilanthes Acmella (as SA3X™)
400 Mg. Panax Ginseng (as G70X™)
300 Mg. Cistanche (as C30X™)
50 mg. Apigenin (as ApiPure™)
10 mg. Bioperine®

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Cloma-Plex is not just a natural testosterone booster.

Cloma-Plex is not just an estrogen control/AI support product.

Cloma-Plex IS an all-in-one natural testosterone booster and phytonutrient aromatase inhibitor support product powered by 8 high-end active ingredients and designed to help you look better, feel better, & perform better – in the gym, the bedroom, and in day-to-day life.

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Cloma-Plex Highlights/Supports:
  • Lean Muscle Gains
  • Hardcore Strength Gains
  • Improved Body-Composition
  • Natural Testosterone Booster
  • Powerful Estrogen Control Support
  • Optimal Testosterone to Estrogen Ratio
  • Libido, Vitality, & Enhanced Sexual Desire
  • Potent Anabolic & Anti-Catabolic Benefits
  • Phytonutrient Aromatase Inhibitor Support
  • Increases in Free & Total Testosterone Levels
  • Positive Mood & Improved Sense of Well-Being
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Ask Yourself a Few Questions:
  • Is your libido low or non-existent?
  • Do you feel tired and fatigued most of the time?
  • Do you feel irritable, anxious, moody, &/or sad a lot?
  • Has your overall mood and energy levels decreased?
  • Do you find it harder to gain lean muscle and strength?
  • Do you find yourself putting on more body-fat, especially around the midsection?
^^^ If you answered yes to any of the above questions, Cloma-Plex may be right for you.

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Who is Cloma-Plex for?
Cloma-Plex is designed for bodybuilder, powerlifters, athletes, physique competitors, and anyone who wants to stand out from the crowd by having a leaner, harder, more muscular physique.

But importantly, that’s not all!

You do NOT have to be a bodybuilder or fitness enthusiast to take and enjoy Cloma-Plex.

There are many men that suffer from the effects of low testosterone and/or unbalanced testosterone to estrogen ratios. Declining natural testosterone levels are part of aging and may have a wide variety of negative physical and mental effects including decreased muscle mass, increased body-fat, mood swings, loss of libido, feeling down, irritability, fatigue, tiredness, and many more.

Cloma-Plex is designed for the man that wants to look better, feel better, and perform better – whether it be in the gym, the bedroom, or in day-to-day life.

Not Just for Athletes & Bodybuilders.
For Men That Want to Look Better, Feel Better, & Perform Better
In the Gym, the Bedroom, or in Day-to-Day Life!

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The Importance of an Optimal Testosterone to Estrogen Ratio:
Estrogen is one of the most often misunderstood hormones by males due to the perception and generalization that all estrogen is bad and needs to be eliminated.

High estrogen levels in men can lead to many undesirable side effects including decreased libido, impotency, irritability, sadness, anxiety, depression, bloating, fat storage, gynecomastia, and more.

However, too low of estrogen levels in men can lead to decreased libido, sexual dysfunction, irritability, sadness, anxiety, depression, bloating, excess fat storage especially around the belly, forgetfulness, fatigue, tiredness, oversleeping, and more.

Sound or look familiar?

Yes, that’s right – the effects of low estrogen can be similar to the effects of low testosterone.

Okay, a lot of people reading this may be confused, overwhelmed, and scratching their heads and wondering what to do?

The key is an optimal testosterone to estrogen ratio – which is what Cloma-Plex is designed to support.

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Cloma-Plex – Anti-Aging, Longevity, & Natural Testosterone Support:
The terms Anti-Aging and Longevity have come to mean a lot of different things to different people but were originally popularized by men looking for regimens that helped them look better, feel better, & perform better – in the gym, the bedroom, and in day-to-day life.

One of the most common regimens associated with Anti-Aging and Longevity in men are regimens that help increase testosterone levels. Many, many men flock to these types of therapies but then find themselves having to use additional things to keep their estrogen levels under control or from rebounding when they cease these particular therapies, which is why many men choose not to use them to begin with.

Cloma-Plex is designed to help increase natural testosterone levels and help modulate estrogen levels to support a healthy testosterone to estrogen ratio. This makes Cloma-Plex a great addition to other types of Anti-Aging and Longevity regimens, a great product to take while taking a break from certain regimens, or an excellent choice for people that are looking for a natural supplement to use instead.

A Natural Anti-Aging, Longevity, & Testosterone Support Supplement!

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Cloma-Plex – A New Breed of PCT Supplementation:
Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) can be an extremely stressful time for the body and needs to be targeted adequately from multiple angles.

Cloma-Plex is designed to take your PCT to the next level by supporting increases in natural testosterone levels while also supporting the modulation of estrogen levels and a decrease in estrogen synthesis.

Cloma-Plex is designed to target PCT from multiple angles, including supporting:
  • Increases in Natural Testosterone Levels
  • Increases in Both Free and Total Testosterone Levels
  • Improved Libido and Sexual Desire & Performance
  • Modulation of Estrogen Levels & a Decrease in Estrogen Synthesis
  • Potent Anabolic & Anti-Catabolic Benefits
  • Increased Muscle Protein Synthesis
  • Retaining Lean Muscle & Strength
Take Your PCT to the Next Level
Multi-Faceted Approach to PCT
Don’t Just Keep Your Gains – Keep Them Going!
 
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Let’s Examine the Ingredients:

Symplocos Racemosa Extract (as SR10X™):
Symplocos Racemosa Extract is a super exciting herb that has so many potential benefits that it would take a series of articles to cover all of the information. So due to space constraints, this write up will just be providing an overview.

The SR10X™ Difference:
It’s all about the extraction – As with most herbs, it’s not the parent herb that delivers the benefits, it’s the active constituent(s) that are responsible for the results. A good well-known example of this would be Turmeric as a parent herb but Curcumin being the constituent that delivers the benefits. Another well-known example would be Milk Thistle being the parent herb but Silymarin being the constituent that delivers the benefits.

Most suppliers sell cheap Symplocos/Lodhra powder that isn’t even extracted at all (despite some claiming otherwise).

SR10X™ is a specialized Symplocos Racemosa Extract standardized to a minimum 10% Tannins.

Fat Loss & Lean Muscle Overview:
Symplocos Racemosa was the active ingredient in one of the most well-renowned and sought-after bodybuilding supplements of all time and works through a variety of pathways to help build lean muscle & strength, support fat loss, and help build or maintain lean muscle while dieting.

PDE Inhibitors and cAMP:
Symplocos Racemosa Extract (also known as Lodhra Bark Extract) is one of nature’s most well-documented phosphodiesterase (PDE) inhibitors. Phosphodiesterase is the enzyme responsible for breaking down cyclic-AMP (cAMP). Phosphodiesterase inhibitors prevent the phosphodiesterase enzymes from breaking down cAMP. cAMP is a ‘second messenger’ that that helps regulate the effects various hormones and neurotransmitters and has potential benefits such as improved fat loss, increased muscle mass, improved thyroid function, increased steroidogenesis (hormone production), and much more.

Basically, more cAMP in the body can lead to greater fat loss, increased muscle gains, and enhanced hormone levels; all of which can be beneficial for building a leaner more muscular physique.

Luteinizing Hormone (LH) and Follicle Stimulating Hormone (FSH):
Symplocos Racemosa extract supports increasing both Luteinizing Hormone (LH) and Follicle Stimulating Hormone (FSH). This is a great benefit for men as LH boosts testosterone production and FSH helps support healthy sperm development.

Liver Protective Properties:
Symplocos Racemosa, unlike many compounds associated with bodybuilding, has been shown to have hepatoprotective (liver protective) properties.

Potential GI Benefits and More:
Symplocos Racemosa has also been shown to have a wide variety of other potential benefits including having a positive effect of gastrointestinal (GI) ulcers.

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E. Cottonii (Eucheuma Cottonii):
Eucheuma Cottonii (E. Cottonii) is a polyphenol rich edible seaweed extract that contains vitamins, trace minerals, antioxidants, & amino acids and has been shown to have potent anti-estrogen properties.

Cottonii has been shown to act as a natural selective estrogen receptor modulator (SERM) and simultaneously reduce estrogen production.

Cottonii is thought to act as an estrogen receptor antagonist and exert its mechanism of action through blocking the estrogen receptor at the hypothalamus, thereby modulating the sensing of serum estrogen levels, resulting in the feedback loop being initiated to regulate levels and promote gonadotropin release and increased testosterone production.

Cottonii has also been noted to downregulate endogenous estrogen biosynthesis, which may result in reduced serum levels of estrogens and help ensure levels do not elevate too significantly.

Cottonii has such incredible potential as a natural SERM that there have been animal studies comparing it head-to-head with pharma ones with positive outcomes.

In addition to its estrogen modulating benefits, E. Cottonii also possesses a variety of other potential benefits including supporting cardiovascular health, GI health, and possessing anti-inflammatory properties that may support reduced inflammation in muscles, joints, and the kidneys. It has also been shown to display hepatoprotective properties when the liver was under stress, resulting in reduced levels of enzymes indicative of liver stress, while also supporting cellular membrane integrity.

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Ellagic Acid:
Ellagic Acid is a plant derived polyphenol that is naturally occurring and is found primarily in pomegranates but also in strawberries, cranberries, raspberries, and other plants.

Ellagic Acid is a potent antioxidant and has been shown to help reduce inflammation. Ellagic Acid has a wide variety of potential health benefits but for the purpose of this write up, we are going to focus primarily on its estrogen modulating benefits.

Ellagic Acid is unique in that studies have shown that it may possess both aromatase inhibiting (AI) properties and also be a natural selective estrogen receptor modulator (SERM).

Ellagic Acid – Aromatase Inhibiting (AI) Properties:
Studies have shown that Ellagic Acid may naturally suppress E2 metabolizing enzymes, the enzymes that are responsible for the creation of estrogen.

Studies have shown that Ellagic Acid may inhibit aromatase, an enzyme that converts androgens to estrogen.

Ellagic Acid – Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator (SERM) Properties:
Studies have suggested that Ellagic Acid may be a natural selective estrogen receptor modulator (SERM).

Ellagic Acid is thought to influence the activity of estrogen receptors by binding to the receptors sites that often cause gynecomastia.
 
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Spilanthes Acmella Extract (as SA3X™):
Spilanthes Acmella is an herb that has a long history of use in Ayurvedic medicine as a natural testosterone booster and for its aphrodisiac (libido enhancing) and pain-relieving properties.

There are several constituents in Spilanthes that are thought to be beneficial, but it is the N-Alkylamides extract that was used in the studies on Spilanthes and that are thought to be the most responsible for its effects.

Cloma-Plex uses SA3X™, a high potency branded extract that contains a minimum 3.5% Alkylamides extract and whose plants are non-GMO and grown free of pesticides.

Spilanthes Acmella and Increased Testosterone & Luteinizing Hormone (LH):
In addition to its long history of use in Ayurvedic medicine for its testosterone boosting and libido enhancing properties, preliminary studies in mice have shown Spilanthes Acmella (specifically the N-Alkylamides) to have a positive effect on testosterone, luteinizing hormone (LH), and follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) after 28 days of use.

Spilanthes Acmella and Sexual Performance:
In addition to its natural testosterone boosting benefits and extensive history of use in Ayurvedic medicine as an aphrodisiac (libido enhancer), preliminary studies in mice have shown Spilanthes Acmella (specifically the N-Alkylamides) to increase sexual frequency, ejaculation, sexual consistency, & harder erections. In this study researchers documented an increase on the PEI (Penile Erection Index) compared to a control group with the increase being nearly 3 times higher in the Spilanthes Acmella group. In laymen’s terms, this means that the Spilanthes group experienced improved erection quality/harder erections.

What is the importance of Spilanthes Acmella Extract being standardized?
The importance of Spilanthes Acmella Extract being standardized is because the percentage of standardized extract (specifically N-Alkylamide content) is thought to be responsible for the levels of benefits that this exciting ingredient provides.

Many Spilanthes raw materials and products on the market are just the herb powder and aren’t standardized at all so the user doesn’t know how much N-Alkylamide content they are getting, if any at all.

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Panax Ginseng Extract (as G70X™):
Panax Ginseng is one of the most extensively studied and well-known herbs on the face of the earth and has been used for centuries in Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) to help strengthen the immune system, promote virility, vitality, & libido, improve the body’s response to stress (both physical and psychological), enhance energy levels & improve cognition, and for a wide variety of other anti-aging and longevity properties.

Panax Ginseng is considered to be one of the worlds most powerful adaptogenic herbs. The word Panax is derived from the word ‘Panacea’, whose definition is ‘a solution or remedy for all difficulties or diseases and a source of longevity and physical strength and resistance.

What are Ginsenosides?
Ginsenosides are the unique active compounds (plant saponins) found in Panax ginseng. There are many different types of Ginsenosides, each with their own unique potential benefits.

Ginsenosides – Lean Muscle, Strength, Fat Loss, & Anabolic Potential:
There are many different Ginsenosides, and each have their own unique properties and potential. Some Ginsenosides have the ability to support lean muscle and strength (through a variety of potential pathways), others have the ability to support fat loss and improved body-composition (through multiple methods of action), and some have structural similarities to anabolic hormones such as testosterone. Some Ginsenosides bind to the androgen receptors, and some appear to promote the better functioning of the androgen receptors to support higher natural anabolic levels.

What is G70X™?
As discussed above, there are many different Ginsenosides with a wide variety of unique properties and potential benefits.

G70X™ is a specialized Panax Ginseng Extract that is standardized to a minimum 70% Ginsenoside content of select Ginsenosides that are geared primarily to support libido, improved performance, lean muscle, strength, fat loss, & improved body-composition benefits.

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Cistanche (as C30X™):
Cistanche is an adaptogenic and restorative tonic herb that has been used for centuries primarily for its natural testosterone, libido, virility, and vitality benefits.

Echinacoside is the active ingredient in Cistanche that is thought to be responsible for many of Cistanche’s potential neuroprotective, anti-aging & longevity, and libido, virility, & vitality benefits.

Many Cistanche raw materials are not extracts and provide little or no Echinacoside and many Cistanche raw materials that are extracts provide very small amounts of Echinacoside and/or inconsistent levels of Echinacoside.

Cloma-Plex contains C30X™, an ultra-potent Cistanche Extract that contains a minimum 30% Echinacoside for maximum results.

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Apigenin (as ApiPure™):
Apigenin is a natural flavonoid found in parsley, celery, chamomile, and citrus fruits that is similar to Quercetin, Hesperidin, Luteolin, and Kaempferol. However, even though its structure is very similar to these compounds, Apigenin has some very different effects in the body than those related substances.

Apigenin has a natural anabolic effect, as first discovered by researchers at the Korea Food Research Institute.

In the initial study that led to Apigenin’s popularity for building muscle, scientists began experimenting with his flavone with mice and the mice receiving the Apigenin had significant muscle mass gains over the mice not receiving it. The greater the dosage of Apigenin the mice took, the larger the quad increase!

Apigenin, even before the research showing its natural anabolic benefits, was already regarded as a very exciting compound due to its wide variety of overall benefits including its anti-inflammatory benefits as well as its potential prostate, neuroprotective, and cardioprotective properties. However, of particular interest to many researchers is Apigenin’s potential anti-cancer benefits, which have made Apigenin the subject of many studies around the world.

Another very exciting aspect of Apigenin is its ability to enhance autophagy. Autophagy is a natural cellular mechanism by which by which the cells in our body degrade unnecessary or damaged components within the cell. The process of autophagy helps maintain normal functioning (homeostasis) in the cell. (If you’re familiar with what defragging a computer means, think of that as a good comedic analogy to this process by the cells).

Apigenin has also been studied for a wide variety of other potential benefits including its anti-inflammatory, antioxidant, anti-aromatase, cardiovascular, and antibacterial properties, and more.

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Bioperine®:
Bioperine® is a standardized extract from the fruit of Piper nigrum L (Black Pepper) containing 95% piperine. Piperine has been shown to enhance the oral bioavailability of many ingredients and is included in Cloma-Plex to make sure that you get the maximum benefits from all of the awesome ingredients in this comprehensive formulation.

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Stacking & Synergy:
Cloma-Plex can be stacked with M-Test, Anabolic Effect, Epi-Plex, Api-Plex, Ecdy-Plex, Cycle Assist, PCT Assist, or a wide variety of other Competitive Edge Labs products to help you achieve your individual goals.
 
Cloma-Plex is available now.

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Cloma-Plex is already on its way to DPS and is available to ship to any other retailers as soon as they place orders for it.
 
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Cloma-Plex & M-Test:

I wanted to address this in its own post because I know it will get asked.

Cloma-Plex does not take the place of M-Test in any way.

M-Test is a great natural testosterone booster and makes for the perfect stack with Cloma-Plex.

As a matter of fact, we expect so many people to want to stack them that we set up a stack for people so that they can save 10.00 off purchasing them individually:

https://competitiveedgelabs.com/product/m-test-cloma-plex-stack/
 
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Is the ginseng extract G70x made only for you? I've never heard of it.

Also is it extracted for any particular ginsenosides?
 
Is the ginseng extract G70x made only for you? I've never heard of it.

Also is it extracted for any particular ginsenosides?

No, it isn't made specifically for us. I think that we are just the first company to use it in a product when we included it in Anabolic XT and now in Cloma-Plex.

The branded ingredient side of the industry is like the retail side in some ways in that there are better and worse times of the year for branded ingredient companies to launch ingredients and/or particular types of ingredients. Sometimes, you'll have a situation where something may be available but the branded ingredient company knows its not a great time of the year to launch it from a business perspective so they're holding off on it until the right time, when they have their marketing in place, or for a variety of reasons.

And a lot of brands are only interested in using branded ingredients that are fully launched, well-known, &/or have big marketing budgets behind the ingredients - which from a business perspective I can completely understand.

Here on AM, most people associate me just with SNS and CEL but I do formulation for quite a few different companies and do raw material sourcing for a lot of companies as well. I've been working in the raw material side of the industry for 18+ years so sometimes cool opportunities come up. But also, there are a lot of cool ingredients that sometimes people aren't familiar with bc the raw material companies just don't have the marketing budget of some of the bigger ones.

In the case of G70X, they weren't ready to formally launch it yet but were okay with us using it; we're just limited as to what we can say about it or what type of detailed information we can give on it until they do their official release for it.

It is extracted for particular ginsenosides but that was part of the agreement to be able to use it before the official launch is that I have an NDA with them and can't give out any details about which particular ones they are. I'm not sure whether the company will release that information down the road as a selling point or if they'll keep it as proprietary information in order to try to keep people from copying it.

Based on my research on ginsenosides, for me personally, its pretty much the perfect combination of ones that I would be interested in for the purposes of body-composition, natural test boosting, and libido support though. That was a big part of what got me interested in using it.
 
Ya this shares a few ingredients with Anabolic XT, which I've been loving, so I think that jumps this higher on my "to try" list. I had no idea what to expect, but like this formula quite a bit.
 
Ya this shares a few ingredients with Anabolic XT, which I've been loving, so I think that jumps this higher on my "to try" list. I had no idea what to expect, but like this formula quite a bit.

I'm glad that you're loving Anabolic XT.

Cloma-Plex does share some things in common with Anabolic XT which I think based on the great feedback for Anabolic XT, that is a great thing. And it takes those core elements and combines them with estrogen control support to create a very different product than Anabolic XT but maintaining some of the cool similarities :)
 
No, it isn't made specifically for us. I think that we are just the first company to use it in a product when we included it in Anabolic XT and now in Cloma-Plex.

The branded ingredient side of the industry is like the retail side in some ways in that there are better and worse times of the year for branded ingredient companies to launch ingredients and/or particular types of ingredients. Sometimes, you'll have a situation where something may be available but the branded ingredient company knows its not a great time of the year to launch it from a business perspective so they're holding off on it until the right time, when they have their marketing in place, or for a variety of reasons.

And a lot of brands are only interested in using branded ingredients that are fully launched, well-known, &/or have big marketing budgets behind the ingredients - which from a business perspective I can completely understand.

Here on AM, most people associate me just with SNS and CEL but I do formulation for quite a few different companies and do raw material sourcing for a lot of companies as well. I've been working in the raw material side of the industry for 18+ years so sometimes cool opportunities come up. But also, there are a lot of cool ingredients that sometimes people aren't familiar with bc the raw material companies just don't have the marketing budget of some of the bigger ones.

In the case of G70X, they weren't ready to formally launch it yet but were okay with us using it; we're just limited as to what we can say about it or what type of detailed information we can give on it until they do their official release for it.

It is extracted for particular ginsenosides but that was part of the agreement to be able to use it before the official launch is that I have an NDA with them and can't give out any details about which particular ones they are. I'm not sure whether the company will release that information down the road as a selling point or if they'll keep it as proprietary information in order to try to keep people from copying it.

Based on my research on ginsenosides, for me personally, its pretty much the perfect combination of ones that I would be interested in for the purposes of body-composition, natural test boosting, and libido support though. That was a big part of what got me interested in using it.

Thats awesome to hear, idk why I never realized it was in anabolic xt lol
Theres a couple estrogenic ginsenosides I dont like, particularly Rh1. Which is why I stopped using the leaf extract, it has 30x the amount compared to the root.
It would actually flare up my gyno at the dosages I wanted to use it at. But I'll assume they selective avoided that one.

I plan to get off trt soon so ill pick up a bottle to run alongside enclomiphene. thanks!
 
Thats awesome to hear, idk why I never realized it was in anabolic xt lol
Theres a couple estrogenic ginsenosides I dont like, particularly Rh1. Which is why I stopped using the leaf extract, it has 30x the amount compared to the root.
It would actually flare up my gyno at the dosages I wanted to use it at. But I'll assume they selective avoided that one.

I plan to get off trt soon so ill pick up a bottle to run alongside enclomiphene. thanks!

The ones that have the ginsenosides that are higher in potential estrogenic side effects are mostly the non-specific ones and the cheaper extracts.

I don't think that you would have any estrogenic issues with G70X at all in general, but especially not with the estrogen modulating aspects of Cloma-Plex.

I look forward to hearing your feedback when you try it.
 
Great profile! I will purchase this! I will buy the two pack and two pack of AE if the 25% is still available tomorrow?
 
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Man I wish we had access to stuff like this for PCT/bridging when I first began cycling. Something actually thought out, with quality extracts and dosages that would make an actual difference in well-being.

This looks good. I mean I saw benefit in PCT years back just using E Cottonii, nevermind this whole suite of goodies. This is next level natural hormone support.
 
Well Looky Looky here
Time to do some dive in and read up on all these goodies
@sns8778 can u stop making these back to back bangers my pocket can’t handle all this
😂
 
Just placed an order for 2-pack. Hope ai effect is not too strong. Don't want sore joints or reduced libido. Will post up results.
 
Just placed an order for 2-pack. Hope ai effect is not too strong. Don't want sore joints or reduced libido. Will post up results.

I plan on starting at 4 caps and move to 6caps to test it out .. i dont think it will have negative effects on libido .. or i never have atleast
 
Love everything about your products and the detailed descriptions of each ingredient on your website are top-notch!!
 
Ive never tried it. But I know it effects the adrenergic system.

I'm currently off all stimulants and want to give my HPA a break from anything that may affect it.

Cocoabutero is not a stimulant.
Anyway, was just giving you an option. Recomp20 is the closest thing you'll have as a single ingredient for Symplocos Racemosa Extract.
 
Great profile! I will purchase this! I will buy the two pack and two pack of AE if the 25% is still available tomorrow?

Thank you. And yes, we extended the Halloween sale so the 25% off for all CEL products is good thru midnight EST on Sunday.

Cloma-Plex and Anabolic Effect will be a great stack.
 
Cocoabutero is not a stimulant.
Anyway, was just giving you an option. Recomp20 is the closest thing you'll have as a single ingredient for Symplocos Racemosa Extract.

I know its not but it still seems to have some effect on the HPA axis.

Thank you though! I appreciate it man.
 
Looks great.

Wish SNS would come out with a single ingredient Symplocos Racemosa Extract (as SR10X™)

I normally reply to threads by going through and replying post by post to get caught up.

In this case, I saw that @Madevilz had posted a link to Recomp20 (thank you for doing so).

I multi-quoted some of the convo and will just add in some thoughts.


Thank you for posting that. I really appreciate it.

Single ingredient.

I think what he meant was that was the closest that there is to a single ingredient product of SR10X.

Cocoabutero is not a stimulant.
Anyway, was just giving you an option. Recomp20 is the closest thing you'll have as a single ingredient for Symplocos Racemosa Extract.

Thank you and that is correct on both points - Cocoabuterol is not a stimulant (although some people erroneously assumed that it was when it was first released) and also in that Recomp20 is the closest thing to a single ingredient SR10X.

I know its not but it still seems to have some effect on the HPA axis.

Thank you though! I appreciate it man.

I think that any affect that Cocoabuterol would have on it would be a positive one; but understand if you're trying to avoid anything that would affect it, even if in a positive way.

I had originally thoughts about doing SR10X as a single ingredient product but that idea actually became Recomp20 when we had so many people asking us to do a product like the original Compound20.

Now, in addition to Recomp20, we use it in Anabolic XT and Cloma-Plex.

We would have to have a lot of demand to do it as a single ingredient product bc I think that most people would prefer Recomp20 to a single ingredient and the price point would be close to the same if not the same. I do appreciate the suggestion and if we find the demand is there will be glad to do it, but I suspect we'd be more just competing with one of our own products at this point if we did one. I hope that makes sense.
 
I normally reply to threads by going through and replying post by post to get caught up.

In this case, I saw that @Madevilz had posted a link to Recomp20 (thank you for doing so).

I multi-quoted some of the convo and will just add in some thoughts.



Thank you for posting that. I really appreciate it.



I think what he meant was that was the closest that there is to a single ingredient product of SR10X.



Thank you and that is correct on both points - Cocoabuterol is not a stimulant (although some people erroneously assumed that it was when it was first released) and also in that Recomp20 is the closest thing to a single ingredient SR10X.



I think that any affect that Cocoabuterol would have on it would be a positive one; but understand if you're trying to avoid anything that would affect it, even if in a positive way.

I had originally thoughts about doing SR10X as a single ingredient product but that idea actually became Recomp20 when we had so many people asking us to do a product like the original Compound20.

Now, in addition to Recomp20, we use it in Anabolic XT and Cloma-Plex.

We would have to have a lot of demand to do it as a single ingredient product bc I think that most people would prefer Recomp20 to a single ingredient and the price point would be close to the same if not the same. I do appreciate the suggestion and if we find the demand is there will be glad to do it, but I suspect we'd be more just competing with one of our own products at this point if we did one. I hope that makes sense.

That absolutely makes sense! And I appreciate the response.

Care to share how it would affect the HPA axis in a positive way? I know this is probably the wrong thread...

But I assume anything that agonizes the adrenergic system eventually leads to down regulation of the receptor.
 
Stack this + Anabolic XT for natty run ? Or Mtest + AXT and save this for a PCT?

Cloma-Plex and Anabolic XT could definitely be stacked together and you could definitely add M-Test &/or Optimize-T to it.

M-Test and Anabolic XT is also a great stack.

Cloma-Plex is a great option for PCT but I wouldn't save it specifically for PCT.
 
I have some m test, optimize t, and reduce xt coming. Can I stack this with all of that?

Yes, it could be and that would be an incredible stack.
 
That absolutely makes sense! And I appreciate the response.

Care to share how it would affect the HPA axis in a positive way? I know this is probably the wrong thread...

But I assume anything that agonizes the adrenergic system eventually leads to down regulation of the receptor.

A quick short answer would be:

Cocoabuterol supports the activation of the Beta-2-adreneric receptor and has a positive effect on weight loss and body composition. The desirability of activating the beta-2-adrenergic receptor is due to the critical role that the beta-2-adrenergic receptors play in both skeletal muscle and metabolic function. In particular, the beta-2-adrenerfgic receptors have been shown to increase oxygen uptake and nutrient transport to skeletal muscle, regulate thermogenesis, inhibit the pro-adipogenic effect of other adrenergic receptor types, and directly increase lipolysis and oxidation of fatty acids – the literal burning of fatty tissue.

And I disagree with the assumption that anything that works on the adrenergic system would have a negative affect on the receptor.

But please, let's keep this thread on topic and not discuss ingredients that are not in this product in this thread. You're welcome to pm me if you'd like and we can continue this discussion if need be.
 
Just placed an order for 2-pack. Hope ai effect is not too strong. Don't want sore joints or reduced libido. Will post up results.

I don't think you'll have to worry about the AI effects being too strong. The goal is to help modulate estrogen and help with proper testosterone to estrogen ratio; not to crush estrogen with it.

We've actually had this here for quite some time and just had to space out new releases for business purposes. When we do that (have things here but not release them yet), a lot of times I'll have people try them that I know so that we can get feedback on them and the feedback has been excellent and we haven't had a single report of sore joints or negative effects on libido. To the contrary, libido seems to be through the roof for people using it and almost comically through the roof for people stacking it with M-Test (literally had a friend of mines wife threaten to kick my a** if I gave him another bottle of it lol).
 
Love everything about your products and the detailed descriptions of each ingredient on your website are top-notch!!

Thank you so much. I really appreciate the kind words, I mean that.

Sometimes I feel like I put so much time and effort and detail into detailed write ups on my end, but then look at some companies websites and there are no write ups, just a banner that says what a product is supposed to do and a pic of an attractive guy &/or girl and people rave over their products and ours don't get the attention that they deserve and it can be so discouraging at times. So I really do appreciate the kind words.
 
How would you compare the estrogen control from this to Inhibit E?

I would consider Cloma-Plex to be a natural testosterone booster and libido support product that has estrogen modulating properties whereas I would consider Inhibit-E to be a great anti-estrogen product that has natural test boosting properties.

Both are great products.
 
Man I wish we had access to stuff like this for PCT/bridging when I first began cycling. Something actually thought out, with quality extracts and dosages that would make an actual difference in well-being.

This looks good. I mean I saw benefit in PCT years back just using E Cottonii, nevermind this whole suite of goodies. This is next level natural hormone support.

Thank you for the kind words. I'm really glad that you like the formula.

I like that phrase you used, and think that is a great way of putting it - next level natural hormone support.
 
Thank you for the kind words. I'm really glad that you like the formula.

I like that phrase you used, and think that is a great way of putting it - next level natural hormone support.

Looking at it from the perspective of someone coming off and on Ph/DS &, more commonly now, SARMs, I’m just looking at all of the plethora of angles this could be beneficial.

What do all of those orally-consumed cycles have in common? Elevated oxidative stress, disruptions to gut micro biome & digestion, crashed LH & FSH, an estrogen-dominated environment post cycle on shorter runs (and very frequently once natural testosterone begins to restore & estrogen rebounds), poor sexual function and/or libido.

Cloma-Plex addresses all of that at different levels in a single product to help restore hormonal homeostasis sooner and clean up the environment faster.

Nothing is a free ride with that kind of cycling, but the kind of things I had access to were typically something like DHEA and tribulus (which only exacerbated the estrogen-dominant environment, slowing endogenous recovery)
 
Assuming this would stack well with Enclomiphene in pct. Would this be better than optimize t in pct?
 
Assuming this would stack well with Enclomiphene in pct. Would this be better than optimize t in pct?

I think that it would be a great stack with that if someone were going to use that.

I think that it would make a great stack with Optimize-T in PCT also.
 
Looking at it from the perspective of someone coming off and on Ph/DS &, more commonly now, SARMs, I’m just looking at all of the plethora of angles this could be beneficial.

What do all of those orally-consumed cycles have in common? Elevated oxidative stress, disruptions to gut micro biome & digestion, crashed LH & FSH, an estrogen-dominated environment post cycle on shorter runs (and very frequently once natural testosterone begins to restore & estrogen rebounds), poor sexual function and/or libido.

Cloma-Plex addresses all of that at different levels in a single product to help restore hormonal homeostasis sooner and clean up the environment faster.

Nothing is a free ride with that kind of cycling, but the kind of things I had access to were typically something like DHEA and tribulus (which only exacerbated the estrogen-dominant environment, slowing endogenous recovery)

That's great insight. Thank you.

Cloma-Plex is the result of a tremendous amount of time and research and the goal was to design the closest thing naturally and legally possible to Clomid in terms of results but to also go way beyond that in terms of overall potential benefits.

I'm excited to hear feedback on it and look forward to hearing everyone's results.
 
That's great insight. Thank you.

Cloma-Plex is the result of a tremendous amount of time and research and the goal was to design the closest thing naturally and legally possible to Clomid in terms of results but to also go way beyond that in terms of overall potential benefits.

I'm excited to hear feedback on it and look forward to hearing everyone's results.
Hey I pmd you, but do you think this would enough for pct with maybe a low dose nolva or enclomiphene?
 
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