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[Smont]

Do you Eat them ?

Eat what?

 

[Smont]

Frogs and turtles???

 

[gphagan1]

Frogs and turtles???

Ha, in your quote you were just talking about looking at frogs and turtles at the pond…..I don’t know, maybe he thinks there’s something anabolic in them.

 

[MrKleen73]

Ha, in your quote you were just talking about looking at frogs and turtles at the pond…..I don’t know, maybe he thinks there’s something anabolic in them.

And the frog thought he would be the one leaving a snail trail on the turtle. Imagine his surprise to be in the middle of this interspecies sandwich...

 

[Smont]

So just to be clear here I do not eat frogs or turtles...

I like animals and I still act like a little kid and when I'm out walking through nature if I see something I can catch I'll catch it and release it again. I've also rescued some wild animals and kept them temporarily until I can get them to a release center. And I just want to throw this out there, don't ever catch a wild animal and try to keep it as a pet. One you're most likely going to give it a crappy life and two if you raise it from a baby you might take away whatever wild instincts it has and then if you end up having to release it or get rid of it later it's going to die.
So while someone might think it's cool or fun, it's not it's kind of a scumbag thing to do.


Something else I want to throw in here about eating frogs and turtles LOL. You will ever catch me doing, when my grandmother came over here from Italy they regularly caught blackbirds and ate them they also ate frog legs and lots of other weird stuff

 

[MrKleen73]

I have eaten both, and they are okay but not worth it if you have normal food options. Just FYI.

 

[Smont]

Crashed out immediately after dinner and just woke up. Definitely needed the extra sleep. Got a weekend full of workouts planned.

Tomorrow morning pull

Got someone meeting me in the morning, going to see if we can get my shoulder mobility a little bit better and then workout.

Then if everything goes good il take a ride over to the boxing gym for some light bag work.

In the afternoon we're picking it back up with legs and then Sunday morning push. Getting the whole ppl "or in this case plp" knocked out in 2 days. Then I'm gonna follow up with a massage therapist Sunday afternoon and possibly get referred to a chiropractor. I have on and off shoulder issues and I'm just starting to get the nagging pains so I wanna be proactive this time around.

It's a 2-3 year on and off thing. Usually shows it's face every time making strength gains lol

 

[gphagan1]

Crashed out immediately after dinner and just woke up. Definitely needed the extra sleep. Got a weekend full of workouts planned.

Tomorrow morning pull

Got someone meeting me in the morning, going to see if we can get my shoulder mobility a little bit better and then workout.

Then if everything goes good il take a ride over to the boxing gym for some light bag work.

In the afternoon we're picking it back up with legs and then Sunday morning push. Getting the whole ppl "or in this case plp" knocked out in 2 days. Then I'm gonna follow up with a massage therapist Sunday afternoon and possibly get referred to a chiropractor. I have on and off shoulder issues and I'm just starting to get the nagging pains so I wanna be proactive this time around.

It's a 2-3 year on and off thing. Usually shows it's face every time making strength gains lol

Yeah, hopefully you can find you a good Chiropractor. For minor injuries, pulls, strains etc. I usually go to my Chiropractor over my Doctor. He is also a trainer with the local College athletics department, and really knows his stuff. On many sports injuries he is more knowledgeable than most Doctors. I’ve gone to Chiropractors for years and the two best that I’ve seen both had backgrounds with sports. They are usually much more knowledgeable than your ordinary Chiropractors.

 

[Smont]

Yeah, hopefully you can find you a good Chiropractor. For minor injuries, pulls, strains etc. I usually go to my Chiropractor over my Doctor. He is also a trainer with the local College athletics department, and really knows his stuff. On many sports injuries he is more knowledgeable than most Doctors. I’ve gone to Chiropractors for years and the two best that I’ve seen both had backgrounds with sports. They are usually much more knowledgeable than your ordinary Chiropractors.

I hate saying this because I feel like I sound like a jackass but I go to a regular DR as little as possible. Most of them don't know jack **** about anything fitness lifestyle related. There answers come out of a textbook and they refuse to listen to anything that's outside the norm. I do have 1 dr. That's not my primary but he's a family friend and a little more up to date so il run stuff by him. But in general I don't bother. One day I thought to myself. Hmm there's not 1 time I've ever gone to the Dr. Or the er and they did anything benificial for me. 99% of the time there just confirming what I already thought was wrong so what's the fukin point

 

[LeanEngineer]

5 hours a night ain't enough for a growing boy!

I agree! Although I think I probably average about 6 hrs so I'm not much better

 

[Smont]

I agree! Although I think I probably average about 6 hrs so I'm not much better

My buddy is always telling me that my sleep is my limiting factor and I'm leaving like 25% of my progress on the table from poor sleep and recovery

 

[Smont]

On that note, he took over my pull day and as usual he reduced my weight on everything and really focused on making me stretch and contract. It actually helped with my shoulders getting stretched out a little bit too. But I rather push heavy. Oh well.

Thinking I should train heavy on a select few exercises I want strength gains on and back off on the other stuff.

Anyway, here ya go

 

[match]

On that note, he took over my pull day and as usual he reduced my weight on everything and really focused on making me stretch and contract. It actually helped with my shoulders getting stretched out a little bit too. But I rather push heavy. Oh well.

Thinking I should train heavy on a select few exercises I want strength gains on and back off on the other stuff.

Anyway, here ya go

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Haha I can just imagine you making him look the other way while you add another 20 or 50 pounds to the bar when he ain't lookin!

 

[Smont]

Went back to the gym for legs

@Rocket3015
After this I went home and dragged out a barbell into the yard and Squat the bar for a set of 110 reps rest pause style.
37,25,18,10,10,10=110

Was harder on the lower back then it was legs

 

[Smont]

Also my right hand keeps cramping up on my and I got no clue why. Really annoying tho. Maybe work related.

Tomorrow morning is push. If my shoulders feel ok we're gonna try 325x3 and then back off to 275 for a set to failure and finish up push day with lighter weights and sets of 12-15, maybe 20 on certain exercises

 

[LeanEngineer]

My buddy is always telling me that my sleep is my limiting factor and I'm leaving like 25% of my progress on the table from poor sleep and recovery

I'm the same way then I think most are escpecially if you have a long, commute, kids, etc there's no way I'm getting 8+ hours of sleep on the daily.

 

[Rocket3015]

Went back to the gym for legsView attachment 219794
@Rocket3015
After this I went home and dragged out a barbell into the yard and Squat the bar for a set of 110 reps rest pause style.
37,25,18,10,10,10=110

Was harder on the lower back then it was legs

Proud of you Brother !!

 

[Smont]

Today's weight is 199.8, bodyfat I would say is slightly up but very similar to day 1 so I'd call this positive weight gained.

There's a few days left but I'm in a little pain so we're probably wrapping up all heavy pressing for a while and Just going into maintenance mode for a while. Gonna try to do some active release and recovery stuff while still training light this week.

Got 325 for a very ugly 3 reps today

 

[Smont]

Il keep updating through this week but I just wanted to thank you guys @LeanEngineer and @Afi140 for letting me try this. I do plan to use again for a longer duration and at a higher dose to maintain strength on my next cut.

And No frogs or turtles were hurt in the making of this log

 

[Smont]

Any questions feel free to ask. I saw nothing negative on this run. Only steady improvements

 

[johnny412]

Today's weight is 199.8, bodyfat I would say is slightly up but very similar to day 1 so I'd call this positive weight gained.

There's a few days left but I'm in a little pain so we're probably wrapping up all heavy pressing for a while and Just going into maintenance mode for a while. Gonna try to do some active release and recovery stuff while still training light this week.

you mite think this is crazy but experiment with diff thumb placements. especially doing pressing movements i can put my thumbs straight out instead of around the bar and it hits different and is much easier on my shoulders

 

[Smont]

I've tried various hand and thumb placements and various grips. This isint something new for me, it's been going on for a very long time, like tlyears. There's a few placement/grips that help but in the bigger scheme of things it's not helping, it's probably causing more damage still because I'm not allowing for rest and healing.

The no thumb grip actually helps the most but I can't use that grip unless I'm in a Smith machine because it's too risky feeling.

 

[johnny412]

I've tried various hand and thumb placements and various grips. This isint something new for me, it's been going on for a very long time, like tlyears. There's a few placement/grips that help but in the bigger scheme of things it's not helping, it's probably causing more damage still because I'm not allowing for rest and healing.

The no thumb grip actually helps the most but I can't use that grip unless I'm in a Smith machine because it's too risky feeling.

yeah years ago a guy that i worked out with swore by the thumb behind. i got use to it and do it that way for the most part. you do have to be careful but i have never dropped anything in the 30ish years of doin it that way.

 

[Rocket3015]

Today's weight is 199.8, bodyfat I would say is slightly up but very similar to day 1 so I'd call this positive weight gained.

There's a few days left but I'm in a little pain so we're probably wrapping up all heavy pressing for a while and Just going into maintenance mode for a while. Gonna try to do some active release and recovery stuff while still training light this week.

Got 325 for a very ugly 3 reps todayView attachment 219811

Got 325 for a very ugly 3 reps today

That is 3 more than I have ever done with 325lbs !!

 

[Afi140]

Il keep updating through this week but I just wanted to thank you guys @LeanEngineer and @Afi140 for letting me try this. I do plan to use again for a longer duration and at a higher dose to maintain strength on my next cut.

And No frogs or turtles were hurt in the making of this log

Of course bro. Glad the product treated you so well. The logs are really showing that we have a winner!

 

[Smont]

Got 325 for a very ugly 3 reps today

That is 3 more than I have ever done with 325lbs !!

Lol

 

[Smont]

yeah years ago a guy that i worked out with swore by the thumb behind. i got use to it and do it that way for the most part. you do have to be careful but i have never dropped anything in the 30ish years of doin it that way.

Yeah, it's called the suicide grip for a reason lol. Cuz if you slip, you're done!

I like the way that it feels but I make sure I only use it in the Smith machine I won't do it on free weight barbell exercises. Not comfortable with it. I know quite a few people that are like you though and they do the suicide grip every time they press.

 

[LeanEngineer]

Yeah, it's called the suicide grip for a reason lol. Cuz if you slip, you're done!

I like the way that it feels but I make sure I only use it in the Smith machine I won't do it on free weight barbell exercises. Not comfortable with it. I know quite a few people that are like you though and they do the suicide grip every time they press.

The only time I do suicide grip is when I'm doing side and front DB raises and lat pull downs. I think for all other movements I'm doing a full grip with thumb wrapped around. Too risky not to for me.

 

[Rocket3015]

Pull Downs and Barbell Rows for me

 

[MrKleen73]

It's only a suicide grip on pressing movements. Not going to have the golgi tendon reflex dump the weight on you with pulling exercises. I have definitely found that as my shoulder has been in bad shape the suicide grip is the best way for me to push with less pain. I don't have an issue with it since not using maximal weights though.

 

[Smont]

It's only a suicide grip on pressing movements. Not going to have the golgi tendon reflex dump the weight on you with pulling exercises. I have definitely found that as my shoulder has been in bad shape the suicide grip is the best way for me to push with less pain. I don't have an issue with it since not using maximal weights though.

I was going to say this, pulling with no thumb is very different, suicide grip means if you slip it comes crashing down and potentially kills you

 

[Rocket3015]

Gene Rychlak lived through 1000lbs fall on him at The Arnold

 

[Hyde]

Gene Rychlak lived through 1000lbs fall on him at The Arnold

RIP

 

[Smont]

Anyone got some good triceps exercises for me. Currently I've been doing close grip inclines, rope pressdown, and db skull krushers.

The CGB needs a break and I've been including db krushers for over a year straight, time to switch it up.

I switched the rope press down to the v bar which allows me to go heavier. I like a reverse grip single arm pressdown. I need 1 more that's not a CGB or dip variation. Looking for isolation pump work.

I want to spend a little time getting away from some of the compound movements and focusing more on some isolation work for arms and legs.

Legs I'm still gonna squat but need some extras

 

[johnny412]

Anyone got some good triceps exercises for me. Currently I've been doing close grip inclines, rope pressdown, and db skull krushers.

The CGB needs a break and I've been including db krushers for over a year straight, time to switch it up.

I switched the rope press down to the v bar which allows me to go heavier. I like a reverse grip single arm pressdown. I need 1 more that's not a CGB or dip variation. Looking for isolation pump work.

I want to spend a little time getting away from some of the compound movements and focusing more on some isolation work for arms and legs.

Legs I'm still gonna squat but need some extras

standing dumbell presses behind head. grab 1 dumbell with both hands

 

[Smont]

standing dumbell presses behind head. grab 1 dumbell with both hands

At the moment I don't have enough mobility in my left shoulder to do that with any dumbbell over 60lbs, they hit me in the back of the head lol. I tried that and a bunch of other db variations Sunday without much luck. I can go overhead with the ez bar but I only have preset ez bars up to 60 or 70lbs so I would have to do those maybe as a finisher.

 

[Hyde]

Flat or Incline Williams Extensions

 

[Smont]

Flat or Incline Williams Extensions

Never heard of a Williams ext. Il look it up

 

[Smont]

Flat or Incline Williams Extensions

This?

 

[gphagan1]

I like body weight tricep extensions elevated on a bar like this…..

You can do so many different variations by adjusting your feet, the bar height, grip width, pushing up with toes like a calf exercise at same time as pressing the extension increases the weight on the triceps too.

 

[Rocket3015]

I got nothing

 

[Hyde]

This?

Yes, except you want to try to keep them touching the entire time as much as possible.

Watch Matt demo it here at the 0:30 seconds mark, first exercise he shows:

For some reference, I have done 65s recently for a brutal sloppy set of 8, and can do 50s pretty clean for 10. My 35s at the house make for easy sets of 20.

 

[Smont]

Pre gym no pump, just sweaty from work, gonna do a quick pull then drive to the boxing gym and do whatever I can.

I'm up 6lbs if I'm not mistaken and I don't feel like I've put much fat on. Wish I had better light here but I well.

 

[sammpedd88]

Anyone got some good triceps exercises for me. Currently I've been doing close grip inclines, rope pressdown, and db skull krushers.

The CGB needs a break and I've been including db krushers for over a year straight, time to switch it up.

I switched the rope press down to the v bar which allows me to go heavier. I like a reverse grip single arm pressdown. I need 1 more that's not a CGB or dip variation. Looking for isolation pump work.

I want to spend a little time getting away from some of the compound movements and focusing more on some isolation work for arms and legs.

Legs I'm still gonna squat but need some extras

Take a curl bar and lay on a bench like you’re going to do skull crushers with it, but start off doing a pullover type movement with it. Go from your chest and keep your arms in a position to just clear your face and take the bar near the floor, if that makes sense, focusing on using your triceps during the movement after 10 reps, immediately go into skull crushers for 10 reps, then 10 close grip presses. Three sets with a moderately heavy weight. You’ll thank me in the morning.

 

[Smont]

Take a curl bar and lay on a bench like you’re going to do skull crushers with it, but start off doing a pullover type movement with it. Go from your chest and keep your arms in a position to just clear your face and take the bar near the floor, if that makes sense, focusing on using your triceps during the movement after 10 reps, immediately go into skull crushers for 10 reps, then 10 close grip presses. Three sets with a moderately heavy weight. You’ll thank me in the morning.

I know what you're talking about, I used to do those as a finisher and it's been a long time since I've done those I'm definitely going to throw those back in. Good call.

 

[sammpedd88]

I know what you're talking about, I used to do those as a finisher and it's been a long time since I've done those I'm definitely going to throw those back in. Good call.

 

[Rocket3015]

Looking Good Man !!

 

[Smont]

Looking Good Man !!

Thanks rocket

 

[Smont]

Post workout, pumped up and I won't lie I angled the lights in the ceiling to cast me a good goonlight lol

 

[Smont]

Definitely a little bit more fat in the lower abs then when I started but not terrible