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Tell Us What You Would Like to See From SNS & CEL (2021 Edition)

Rostam said:
I appreciate that. Honestly if it’s much more expensive than a mixture of alanine and glutamine It’s not worth it in my opinion. And I think it will be. Ive never seen any product with more than 750mg of it and it seems the right dose is above 3g.
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Oh, its not even in the same ballpark. When I looked at the pricing a few years back we're talking like 7 to 10 times the price of mixing Alanine and Glutamine together. That's why I never used it in anything or offered it bc it was so disproportionate.
 
Rostam said:
Personally the reason I like most of my supplements in powder is because of flexibility. I can chose the dose I want and mix them together. But I agree dome supplements can’t be in raw like berberine (For me this is the worst).

I’m okay with capsules also as long as there is no fillers and I can open them and mix it with my other stuffs. The filler of the capsules always stays on the top or at the bottom of the the mix and make it messy.
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I understand what you're saying in theory but want to expand on and explain to people reading the reasons that excipients/flow agents are used in products.

(I'm not talking about some of the shady brands that use them in their prop blends themselves to artificially inflate the dosages; I'm explaining why legit companies use them - and they appear where they should - under the 'Other Ingredients' panel.)

A lot of people don't realize there are some very good reasons for flow agents/excipients to be in products and that they are actually a good thing because of these reasons:
  • A size 0 capsule can hold approximately 500 mg. of powder. A size 00 can hold approximately 750 mg. of powder. So if the dose is for example only 50 mg. of TeaCrine and 75 mg. of Dynamine, there is hardly any powder in the capsule without fillers. This leads to the capsules coming open when being shaken around in the bottle in a lot of cases.
  • The way that commercial contract manufacturing equipment works, filler ingredients are added so that that when blended in the mixer there is a uniform distribution of the ingredients.
  • They also help ensure the accurate dosages per capsule during manufacturing. Example - in the above scenario of if a capsule were to be intended to contain 50 mg. TeaCrine and 75 mg. of Dynamine, it would be very hard for the machinery to accomplish accurate weights for those small measurements and uniformity per capsule - which is why the excipients/flow agents are used - to help ensure proper dosages per capsule.
  • Some ingredients are very hydroscopic or sticky and will stock to the production equipment. This can cause damage to equipment and also cause inaccurate distribution/dosage per capsule. That's a reason excipients are also called flow agents - they help the ingredients flow smoothly through the equipment to ensure correct dosage per capsule.

Something that irritates the hell out of me is seeing brands claim they don't use any excipients or as some call them 'filler ingredients' but then they'll use a size 0 capsule and the dosage of the ingredient is for example 250 mg. and the capsule is full. That's impossible - something else is in there - and the brand is breaking labeling law by not disclosing what it is.
 
Rostam said:
What about Gamma butyrobetaine?
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We have several different fat loss products coming out that we are using it in.

I'm not sure how good that would sell solo. I'd be open to it if that's something enough people were interested in though.
 
Ziyo said:
What about 3-oh-gaba? The ingredient that was used in growth factor xt.
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The unavailability of 3-OH GABA is why we are out of stock of Growth Factor XT haha.

We hope to be able to get the raws again in the next few months, but if not, we will replace it shortly. I want to get the product back available and can't be out much longer. We've had several times we thought the raws were going to be back available and then they weren't.
 
I’m on 250mg of test, 20 mg Anavar, and 2iu of hgh. Kind of an anti aging stack. I wanna add Anabolic XT so bad because I know it will be amazing
 
xam2991 said:
When is anabolic Xt coming? I wanna add it to my cycle
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xam2991 said:
I’m on 250mg of test, 20 mg Anavar, and 2iu of hgh. Kind of an anti aging stack. I wanna add Anabolic XT so bad because I know it will be amazing
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xam2991 said:
I hope it comes soon I’m ready to give you my money
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Thank you so much for your enthusiasm. Anabolic XT will be an incredible product and we hope that it will be out by or around New Years :)
 
sns8778 said:
The unavailability of 3-OH GABA is why we are out of stock of Growth Factor XT haha.

We hope to be able to get the raws again in the next few months, but if not, we will replace it shortly. I want to get the product back available and can't be out much longer. We've had several times we thought the raws were going to be back available and then they weren't.
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How is 3-oh- gaba on its own? Somewhat similar to phenibut or is that far fetched?
 
Ziyo said:
How is 3-oh- gaba on its own? Somewhat similar to phenibut or is that far fetched?
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I don't personally find it to be very similar to Phenibut in my experience with it. It's ALOT more expensive than Phenibut so it would cost a fortune to try to take a very high dose of it like some do with Phenibut.
 
Resolve10 said:
Snagged. Few things during the sale. Thanks for the deals and looking forward to what 2021 brings!
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Thank you. We have a lot of exciting things coming up.
 
Resolve10 said:
Got my most recent order and sns hooked me up with a water bottle, t shirt, and pill box! Thanks so much!

Idk why I stopped using it but finally back with some stress and anxiety support and half a scoop of caffeine free focus cy this morning and with my coffee I’m zooming today. It’s actually my only day off this week so idk what to do with how productive I feel. 😂
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You're very welcome.

And ha, its great that you like that stack and it does so well for you. I do that a lot of days myself and I think its definitely underrated. That's my 'I need to get stuff done asap' stack haha.
 
Madevilz said:
When is the Anabolic XT reveal? 🤐
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The goal is to launch it sometimes around beginning of the year.

We have so many products that I don't like giving ETA's bc we can plan things the way we want them or think will be good, but the priority has to be on keeping existing products in stock bc they are the ones that fund the new releases.
 
Resolve10 said:
Got my most recent order and sns hooked me up with a water bottle, t shirt, and pill box! Thanks so much!

Idk why I stopped using it but finally back with some stress and anxiety support and half a scoop of caffeine free focus cy this morning and with my coffee I’m zooming today. It’s actually my only day off this week so idk what to do with how productive I feel.
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Read this while wearing my SNS tshirt & sipping on some caffeine
 
uncle-rico said:
Is a solo Fadogia product still in the works? I remember it was mentioned here at some point.
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Yes, it is. I'm hoping that it will be out January'ish.
 
sns8778 said:
The goal is to launch it sometimes around beginning of the year.

We have so many products that I don't like giving ETA's bc we can plan things the way we want them or think will be good, but the priority has to be on keeping existing products in stock bc they are the ones that fund the new releases.
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Very excited to see this one. Currently running Anabolic Effect with Anacylus XT, which is an amazing combo. May have to give the Vasoforce Rush suggestions a try...the combo with focus XT sounds very good. Also, noticed the most recent tub of Focus XT grape limeaid is back to the original flavoring, which I've missed.
 
jh1 said:
Very excited to see this one. Currently running Anabolic Effect with Anacylus XT, which is an amazing combo. May have to give the Vasoforce Rush suggestions a try...the combo with focus XT sounds very good. Also, noticed the most recent tub of Focus XT grape limeaid is back to the original flavoring, which I've missed.
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That's awesome. I'm really glad that you're enjoying the stack.

VasoForce Rush is a great and very underrated product.

I love the Grape Limeade flavor myself. And in the early Spring, we should have a couple of really cool new flavors coming out.
 
This thread has slowed down some which is common for threads that get this long because a lot of people are hesitant to read that many pages but also don't want to throw out ideas in case they've already been given.

We have a lot of things coming up that I'm excited about. We actually have next years new product lineup pretty much laid out. We will still be able to slip new things in here and there, but if anyone wants to see certain things from us, now's a great time to throw the ideas out there.
 
BigGame84 said:
Really just waiting on Anabolic XT and the Phosphatidic Acid product.
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Most likely the wait for these will be over in January :)

And we have a lot of other exciting things coming up as well.
 
mechka_grizli said:
It might have been said already but I would love a mushroom blend

Lions mane, reishi, turkey tail, chaga, cordyceps, etc
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I've thought about that and would like to.

One problem is that its hard to dose them all properly in a capsule form and since different people are looking for different things, some people may want higher doses of one and some may want higher doses of another.

I thought about a powder form but then you run into some serious flavor challenges.

I'd love to hear ideas on how you or anyone else would like to see the dosages.
 
sns8778 said:
I've thought about that and would like to.

One problem is that its hard to dose them all properly in a capsule form and since different people are looking for different things, some people may want higher doses of one and some may want higher doses of another.

I thought about a powder form but then you run into some serious flavor challenges.

I'd love to hear ideas on how you or anyone else would like to see the dosages.
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Chocolate and vanilla flavours work best. About 500mg per mushroom source. I would buy non stop. I love putting it in my morning coffee. I use another product currently and it's great. Would buy yours tho
 
If I could have my way:

More flavors of Energized Aminos
Teacrine/Dynamine caps(as has been mentioned) or teacrine caps solo and I will make my own.
Larger size of betaine anhydrous powder
EAA's solo, I know these are more available now than ever but knowing you I would rather buy from you vs a company I have no interaction with.
Carnitine powder solo whatever one you could do the cheapest
Glutamine powder, once again rather buy from you and before everyone jumps on me there is a big difference between studies of 5-10g/day and 40g+ I do. Makes a big difference in my intra.

As long as we are at it:
Carb powders
Dextrose 45% Rice syrup solid 45% Fructose 10% If not together all separate lol.
AAKG powder as now discontinued this and I have customers who prefer it to citrulline(my self included actually.)

Many of these would likely not be great business decisions I am sure and a pain in the ass for the margins involved(like the carb powder lol) but if I had my selfish way the above would be great Steve. So I'm thinking maybe say three months to get it all done for me? lol No rush.;)(y)
 
ironkill said:
Chocolate and vanilla flavours work best. About 500mg per mushroom source. I would buy non stop. I love putting it in my morning coffee. I use another product currently and it's great. Would buy yours tho
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Thank you. Here's what I'm thinking:

Capsule Version:
Daily dose: 3 to 6 caps per day
Per 3 caps:
Lion’s mane (Hericium erinaceus) - 500 mg.
Turkey tail (Trametes versicolor) - 500 mg.
Cordyceps (Cordyceps sinensis, Cordyceps militaris) - 250 mg.
Chaga (Inonotus obliquus) - 250 mg.
Reishi (Ganoderma lucidum, Ganoderma tsugae) - 250 mg.
Maitake (Grifola frondosa) - 250 mg.
Shiitake (Lentinula edodes) - 250 mg.

(Maybe reduce the Turkey Tail to 250 mg. to include 250 mg. of Royal Agaricus)

Powder Version:
500 mg. per scoop of:
Lion’s mane (Hericium erinaceus)
Turkey tail (Trametes versicolor)
Cordyceps (Cordyceps sinensis, Cordyceps militaris)
Chaga (Inonotus obliquus)
Reishi (Ganoderma lucidum, Ganoderma tsugae)
Maitake (Grifola frondosa)
Shiitake (Lentinula edodes)
Royal Agaricus


Thank you for the flavor suggestions also. I was thinking flavors along the lines of Mango Iced Tea, Salted Caramel, and Chocolate. I never thought about Vanilla - but a Vanilla Bean flavor would be great if it were possible.
 
henm said:
Egronine daily ??????
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We will be doing the daily use ergogenic product but the ETA is uncertain.

It has been a crazy experience with this product.

The tentative formula has been done for a long time. We went through flavor sampling and got the flavors great with the cm we were using at the time but then they got so backed up bc of the Covid situation that their lead time became 5 to 6 months on production time of flavored powders. We switched to somewhere else and went through flavor sampling and got them right again, for the same thing to happen with that place too - their lead times becoming very long.

Now, we have some cool things working and by the end of January will be in a great situation with the flavored powder situation. But the problem right now is the supply chain. There are so many things that we want to be in this product that are either impossible to get right now or the pricing is through the roof on right now. We don't want to launch it and the price be too high nor launch it and then be out of stock for 6 months bc we can't get the ingredients. So its a timing thing.

Some examples:
- Citrulline costs right now are doubled.
- Creatine Monohydrate costs are literally 10x what they used to be and that's if companies can even get it at all.
- Creatine Magnapower, the type of Creatine that I wanted to use in this is a patented ingredient from Albion Labs, and they have no stock and don't know when they will be able to get stock.

^^^ So its just circumstances and timing right now.

It's a product that I'm looking forward to from a business and personal standpoint myself.
 
Resolve10 said:
I'd be down for mushrooms too. Currently drink Morphogen's in my morning coffee (it is more than just mushrooms but I'd switch to SNS if they dropped one).
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Thank you. I'm definitely open to doing one. I may try to fast track this one.

Do you like the dosages that I put?
 
Resolve10 said:
Ya I think at 3 caps it would be great for a long term user and I'd bump to double dosing during super stressful times of year, so it looks good to me.
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Thank you. I'm thinking we will do a capsule and powder version of it.

For the capsule version, I'm thinking the suggested use would be 3 to 6 capsules per day.
For intensive use, could definitely go higher if people wanted to.

I know the capsule version will sell better but the dosage constraints of capsules and the number of ingredients make it hard to fit as much as I'd like to in them.

I like the flexibility of the powder dosing in that we can hit higher mg. content but I know that some people, especially those that don't like the taste of mushrooms, won't even consider using a powder form of this.
 
BCseacow83 said:
If I could have my way:

More flavors of Energized Aminos
Teacrine/Dynamine caps(as has been mentioned) or teacrine caps solo and I will make my own.
Larger size of betaine anhydrous powder
EAA's solo, I know these are more available now than ever but knowing you I would rather buy from you vs a company I have no interaction with.
Carnitine powder solo whatever one you could do the cheapest
Glutamine powder, once again rather buy from you and before everyone jumps on me there is a big difference between studies of 5-10g/day and 40g+ I do. Makes a big difference in my intra.

As long as we are at it:
Carb powders
Dextrose 45% Rice syrup solid 45% Fructose 10% If not together all separate lol.
AAKG powder as now discontinued this and I have customers who prefer it to citrulline(my self included actually.)

Many of these would likely not be great business decisions I am sure and a pain in the ass for the margins involved(like the carb powder lol) but if I had my selfish way the above would be great Steve. So I'm thinking maybe say three months to get it all done for me? lol No rush.;)(y)
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We've been out of Energized Aminos bc of having to switch cm's making it bc of the supply chain issues and delays. We just last week approved the new flavor samples on existing flavors so they'll be going into production ASAP. We also approved one new flavor sample for it as well.

I'm all about wanting to add new flavors of Energized Aminos. I wanted to add 3 new flavors and the one I approved last week was incredible so that's definitely a must. So I'd love to hear opinions on 2 more that people would like.

Teacrine/Dynamine combo - I think this one will be a go. Probably not a super top priority but I think it will be done.

Betaine Anhydrous - I wish this sold better. Very underrated ingredient.

EAA's - I really appreciate it. We have a couple of formulas finalized for this. One more basic one and then one very advanced one. I want to bring out the more basic one as soon as possible, there are just a lot of other flavor things in front of it right now. But I could definitely see it coming out in the first half of 2022 if all goes well.

Carnitine powder - pricing is through the roof on Carnitine right now so probably not a good idea at this time. But we hypothetically might happen to have a Carnitine based fat burner powder in the works ;)

Glutamine Powder - I think we're going to do one. I wanted to this year but put it off to see if the pricing on Glutamine would come back down. I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon so we'll likely just move forward on this soon.

AAKG powder - hadn't even thought about this. I had thought about DiArginine Malate powder. But would consider AAKG powder.

I like your carb powder breakdown idea but I don't think that would sell well enough for us. But I'll keep it in mind. I have been thinking about doing a Clusterdextrin at some point in the future.
 
sns8778 said:
We've been out of Energized Aminos bc of having to switch cm's making it bc of the supply chain issues and delays. We just last week approved the new flavor samples on existing flavors so they'll be going into production ASAP. We also approved one new flavor sample for it as well.

I figured that was the case and I think you have mentioned having to do this with FXT so makes sense.

I'm all about wanting to add new flavors of Energized Aminos. I wanted to add 3 new flavors and the one I approved last week was incredible so that's definitely a must. So I'd love to hear opinions on 2 more that people would like.

I had not really thought about it, I figured you guys would take care of the thinking lol. I do lots of concoctions so I like fruit punch as it mixes well with almost anything but I know it's not always people's favorite.

Teacrine/Dynamine combo - I think this one will be a go. Probably not a super top priority but I think it will be done.

Cool.

Betaine Anhydrous - I wish this sold better. Very underrated ingredient. I personally like it better than creatine.

EAA's - I really appreciate it. We have a couple of formulas finalized for this. One more basic one and then one very advanced one. I want to bring out the more basic one as soon as possible, there are just a lot of other flavor things in front of it right now. But I could definitely see it coming out in the first half of 2022 if all goes well.

Looking forward to it.

Carnitine powder - pricing is through the roof on Carnitine right now so probably not a good idea at this time. But we hypothetically might happen to have a Carnitine based fat burner powder in the works ;)

For what it's worth a high price would be a deal killer for this.

Glutamine Powder - I think we're going to do one. I wanted to this year but put it off to see if the pricing on Glutamine would come back down. I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon so we'll likely just move forward on this soon.

I have used it since 1998 and people ignore it which is a mistake imo.

AAKG powder - hadn't even thought about this. I had thought about DiArginine Malate powder. But would consider AAKG powder.

Like I said I will personally take this over l-cit. all day at equal doses for pumps. I know there is a study saying the l-cit works better but that is not my personal experience.

I like your carb powder breakdown idea but I don't think that would sell well enough for us. But I'll keep it in mind. I have been thinking about doing a Clusterdextrin at some point in the future.

I think I may be done with cluster dextrin............I have been conducting some experiements and it may be going bye bye............I will keep you posted. The rice syrup powder I think I first used under ALRI brand, forget the product name, and currently use Karboload from TN and really like it. Carb powders are a little niche though and you only really blow through them doing intra protocols.
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^^^ Replying to the post above. I tried to quote it but since the replies were bolded in the quote from me, it wouldn't let me.

The reason I was thinking of us possibly doing a Clusterdextrin is that its the one we have been asked for the most by far and there aren't a lot of options available for it. Plus, its great for endurance athletes as well.

The reason I asked for opinions on Energized Aminos flavors is just that I'm always open to hearing what people would like from us in terms of flavors. We have a lot of flavored products that will be out in the first half of next year, and we're being very creative with flavors on a lot of them; but always open to new ideas.
 
sns8778 said:
Thank you. Here's what I'm thinking:

Capsule Version:
Daily dose: 3 to 6 caps per day
Per 3 caps:
Lion’s mane (Hericium erinaceus) - 500 mg.
Turkey tail (Trametes versicolor) - 500 mg.
Cordyceps (Cordyceps sinensis, Cordyceps militaris) - 250 mg.
Chaga (Inonotus obliquus) - 250 mg.
Reishi (Ganoderma lucidum, Ganoderma tsugae) - 250 mg.
Maitake (Grifola frondosa) - 250 mg.
Shiitake (Lentinula edodes) - 250 mg.

(Maybe reduce the Turkey Tail to 250 mg. to include 250 mg. of Royal Agaricus)

Powder Version:
500 mg. per scoop of:
Lion’s mane (Hericium erinaceus)
Turkey tail (Trametes versicolor)
Cordyceps (Cordyceps sinensis, Cordyceps militaris)
Chaga (Inonotus obliquus)
Reishi (Ganoderma lucidum, Ganoderma tsugae)
Maitake (Grifola frondosa)
Shiitake (Lentinula edodes)
Royal Agaricus


Thank you for the flavor suggestions also. I was thinking flavors along the lines of Mango Iced Tea, Salted Caramel, and Chocolate. I never thought about Vanilla - but a Vanilla Bean flavor would be great if it were possible.
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I’ll be all over that powder version. Hope it can fit into the line up
 
sns8778 said:
^^^ Replying to the post above. I tried to quote it but since the replies were bolded in the quote from me, it wouldn't let me.

The reason I was thinking of us possibly doing a Clusterdextrin is that its the one we have been asked for the most by far and there aren't a lot of options available for it. Plus, its great for endurance athletes as well.

The reason I asked for opinions on Energized Aminos flavors is just that I'm always open to hearing what people would like from us in terms of flavors. We have a lot of flavored products that will be out in the first half of next year, and we're being very creative with flavors on a lot of them; but always open to new ideas.
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Granted most of my supp cupboards are already SNS lol but I would definitely purchase a cluster dextrin product from you guys regularly or a formula including it and more goodies. I use these products with EAAs as I train early morning and there are only a couple companies out there right now I trust and are somewhat reasonable.
 
tenorguy33 said:
Granted most of my supp cupboards are already SNS lol but I would definitely purchase a cluster dextrin product from you guys regularly or a formula including it and more goodies. I use these products with EAAs as I train early morning and there are only a couple companies out there right now I trust and are somewhat reasonable.
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Thank you. I'm definitely considering a Clusterdextrin. I thought about putting other stuff in there, but I'm leaning towards offering it solo at first bc that way people can add it to whatever they'd like or use it for other purposes, like pre-event athletic use or recovery.
 
sns8778 said:
We've been out of Energized Aminos bc of having to switch cm's making it bc of the supply chain issues and delays. We just last week approved the new flavor samples on existing flavors so they'll be going into production ASAP. We also approved one new flavor sample for it as well.

I'm all about wanting to add new flavors of Energized Aminos. I wanted to add 3 new flavors and the one I approved last week was incredible so that's definitely a must. So I'd love to hear opinions on 2 more that people would like.

Teacrine/Dynamine combo - I think this one will be a go. Probably not a super top priority but I think it will be done.

Betaine Anhydrous - I wish this sold better. Very underrated ingredient.

EAA's - I really appreciate it. We have a couple of formulas finalized for this. One more basic one and then one very advanced one. I want to bring out the more basic one as soon as possible, there are just a lot of other flavor things in front of it right now. But I could definitely see it coming out in the first half of 2022 if all goes well.

Carnitine powder - pricing is through the roof on Carnitine right now so probably not a good idea at this time. But we hypothetically might happen to have a Carnitine based fat burner powder in the works ;)

Glutamine Powder - I think we're going to do one. I wanted to this year but put it off to see if the pricing on Glutamine would come back down. I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon so we'll likely just move forward on this soon.

AAKG powder - hadn't even thought about this. I had thought about DiArginine Malate powder. But would consider AAKG powder.

I like your carb powder breakdown idea but I don't think that would sell well enough for us. But I'll keep it in mind. I have been thinking about doing a Clusterdextrin at some point in the future.
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I would purchase many of these things regularly. I especially look forward to the teacrine and EAA powder. I have pretty much all of your other solo stims as I like to be able to add to focus XT preworkout or customize what I’m taking depending on how I feel that day. Teacrine will be a wonderful addition.

I would be for a bigger betaine container also as it goes pretty quick and for some reason DPS who I usually shop through doesn’t carry that product. I usually grab a couple from your website though whenever you have the holiday sales.

I currently use glutamine at higher doses more so for the gut and immune benefits but perhaps any recovery benefits that come with it as well. I get mine from vitacost but would switch when you come out with yours.
 
tenorguy33 said:
I would purchase many of these things regularly. I especially look forward to the teacrine and EAA powder. I have pretty much all of your other solo stims as I like to be able to add to focus XT preworkout or customize what I’m taking depending on how I feel that day. Teacrine will be a wonderful addition.

I would be for a bigger betaine container also as it goes pretty quick and for some reason DPS who I usually shop through doesn’t carry that product. I usually grab a couple from your website though whenever you have the holiday sales.

I currently use glutamine at higher doses more so for the gut and immune benefits but perhaps any recovery benefits that come with it as well. I get mine from vitacost but would switch when you come out with yours.
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I'll get Glutamine powder on the priority list.

Also, I overlooked that DPS didn't have Betaine Anhydrous. I'll email them about it and see if they'll bring it in. They likely will.
 
sns8778 said:
We've been out of Energized Aminos bc of having to switch cm's making it bc of the supply chain issues and delays. We just last week approved the new flavor samples on existing flavors so they'll be going into production ASAP. We also approved one new flavor sample for it as well.

I'm all about wanting to add new flavors of Energized Aminos. I wanted to add 3 new flavors and the one I approved last week was incredible so that's definitely a must. So I'd love to hear opinions on 2 more that people would like.

Teacrine/Dynamine combo - I think this one will be a go. Probably not a super top priority but I think it will be done.

Betaine Anhydrous - I wish this sold better. Very underrated ingredient.

EAA's - I really appreciate it. We have a couple of formulas finalized for this. One more basic one and then one very advanced one. I want to bring out the more basic one as soon as possible, there are just a lot of other flavor things in front of it right now. But I could definitely see it coming out in the first half of 2022 if all goes well.

Carnitine powder - pricing is through the roof on Carnitine right now so probably not a good idea at this time. But we hypothetically might happen to have a Carnitine based fat burner powder in the works ;)

Glutamine Powder - I think we're going to do one. I wanted to this year but put it off to see if the pricing on Glutamine would come back down. I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon so we'll likely just move forward on this soon.

AAKG powder - hadn't even thought about this. I had thought about DiArginine Malate powder. But would consider AAKG powder.

I like your carb powder breakdown idea but I don't think that would sell well enough for us. But I'll keep it in mind. I have been thinking about doing a Clusterdextrin at some point in the future.
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@sns8778 I agree that Betaine Anhydrous is such an underrated ingredient. I used to buy a tub of pure BetaPower®/BetaPure™ (can't remember which of these two branded names it was) and i would take 3 grams a day and love it. Now its almost impossible to find one of these two branded Betaine Anhydrous products as a solo ingredient. If you came out with either BetaPower® or BetaPure™, I would definitely buy it although I know i'm one of only a few who like taking this on a daily basis.
 
offredjo said:
@sns8778 I agree that Betaine Anhydrous is such an underrated ingredient. I used to buy a tub of pure BetaPower®/BetaPure™ (can't remember which of these two branded names it was) and i would take 3 grams a day and love it. Now its almost impossible to find one of these two branded Betaine Anhydrous products as a solo ingredient. If you came out with either BetaPower® or BetaPure™, I would definitely buy it although I know i'm one of only a few who like taking this on a daily basis.
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i love betaine myself .. have not tested the betapower version .. i assume thats natural and more pure (on the paper)

have you noticed a signficance difference when using the trademark version of betaine to just regular betaine ?
 
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