Stim preworkout product suggestions

I don't get the 350mg of theanine. The Defiant Unleashed version is better.

Did you actually try it though? I don’t even believe a lot of the labels. Lol One pre might list more dmha, and other stims yet one that has way less feels stronger.
 
I used the Gold Crack early this morning at 70% of the serving size. I had a hella good workout! It’s damn good! Strong long lasting feel good energy. No euphoria or crash (at least so far). At this dose the AY is only at 0.7mg so I didn’t get the typical dirty stim feeling from that and none of the other sides from it. Need to add pump ingredients to this pre for sure. This shouldn’t be an everyday pre just once or twice a week. I will probably go with it once every other week.
 
I used the Gold Crack early this morning at 70% of the serving size. I had a hella good workout! It’s damn good! Strong long lasting feel good energy. No euphoria or crash (at least so far). At this dose the AY is only at 0.7mg so I didn’t get the typical dirty stim feeling from that and none of the other sides from it. Need to add pump ingredients to this pre for sure. This shouldn’t be an everyday pre just once or twice a week. I will probably go with it once every other week.

Ok, it did have a lil crash to it about 5 hours post ingesting. Not a bad crash like the DMAA dominant pres.
 
Just got mine in the mail. If my headache goes away I’ll gice it a try tonight. I. Feel the regular crack will be hard to beat though. Obviously it won’t compare in the pumps as regular crack is way superior for that. I’m curious if it feels any different energy wise or focus.
 
Using it now ! It’s freaking amazing! Literally all day , clean energy and focus . No crash and great workouts

Best pre I’ve tried by far
I second this, gives an amazing dopa rush! Found a few sellers on ebay selling it for only $19.99-$27.99 untampered! OG price on their site is 49.99.
 
Just got mine in the mail. If my headache goes away I’ll gice it a try tonight. I. Feel the regular crack will be hard to beat though. Obviously it won’t compare in the pumps as regular crack is way superior for that. I’m curious if it feels any different energy wise or focus.

Used it enough now to try and compare. Really it hits about the same as regular crack for me. I actually got a better deal on crack gold then I did on crack. If you want a complete pre with great pumps get the regular. If you don’t care about that then go with crack gold. You get 25 full servings instead of 20. Both are super strong at full dose. I usually use 3/4 a serving. So can’t go wrong with either. Crack/crack gold is my favorite pre so far.
 
Anything out there that causes insane euphoria? I used to get that from Excelsior, but the tubs I've purchased from the most recent batches might as well be of a different product with the same label.
 
Anything out there that causes insane euphoria? I used to get that from Excelsior, but the tubs I've purchased from the most recent batches might as well be of a different product with the same label.
i like 1/2 scoop somatomax with a scoop of all out-sweat....i put pink floyd pulse in cd player and go for really long runs, the euphoria usually kicks in strong at about the half hour mark.
 
i like 1/2 scoop somatomax with a scoop of all out-sweat....i put pink floyd pulse in cd player and go for really long runs, the euphoria usually kicks in strong at about the half hour mark.

So you take Somatomax the sleep supplement prior to running? It doesn't make you drowsy?
 
So you take Somatomax the sleep supplement prior to running? It doesn't make you drowsy?
yup, not when taken with stims...when combined with stims it has a energized yet mellow effect.
 
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Anything out there that causes insane euphoria? I used to get that from Excelsior, but the tubs I've purchased from the most recent batches might as well be of a different product with the same label.

Flame is suppose to give good euphoria but I haven’t tried it myself yet. Lots of research chems you can buy and mix to make something better then excelsior and at least you will know what’s in it.
 
Flame is suppose to give good euphoria but I haven’t tried it myself yet. Lots of research chems you can buy and mix to make something better then excelsior and at least you will know what’s in it.

Agree, this would be the way to go!
Personally don’t know why anyone would fuk with some tainted and undisclosed crap.

It put a member here in the hospital!

(A guy at my gym swears by yolo darkside preworkout)
 
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i like 1/2 scoop somatomax with a scoop of all out-sweat....i put pink floyd pulse in cd player and go for really long runs, the euphoria usually kicks in strong at about the half hour mark.
Pink Floyd while lifting? Would fall asleep on the bench
 
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Taken twice. It’s really nice.
 
Is yours clumpy? Mine is like oatmeal that’s been over heated in the microwave.

Mine definitely has a different consistency than the normal powdery type, but I just shook it well and kind of broke it up with a fork. It was semi solid when I first got it but now it’s just kind of “sticky”. I just kind of pack it in the scoop and it seems to work ok.
 
For he guys that likes excelsior I seen a review that there is supposedly a new spiked preworkout and is suppose to be similar and it’s called phenyl plex. I orderd one to try even though I didn’t like excelsior. Lol. Also grabbed flame which Ive been looking forward to trying.
 
For he guys that likes excelsior I seen a review that there is supposedly a new spiked preworkout and is suppose to be similar and it’s called phenyl plex. I orderd one to try even though I didn’t like excelsior. Lol. Also grabbed flame which Ive been looking forward to trying.
Yep I saw TJ of FDN review it last night and this is the video just in case anyone wants to see it.
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For he guys that likes excelsior I seen a review that there is supposedly a new spiked preworkout and is suppose to be similar and it’s called phenyl plex. I orderd one to try even though I didn’t like excelsior. Lol. Also grabbed flame which Ive been looking forward to trying.

Post up a quick review on here after you try it
 
Agree, this would be the way to go!
Personally don’t know why anyone would fuk with some tainted and undisclosed crap.

It put a member here in the hospital!

(A guy at my gym swears by yolo darkside preworkout)
Thinking about grabbing YOLO Dark. 10 g citrulline malate with 375mg caffeine, 200 mg DMHA, 200 mg eria, and neurofactor among other things.
 
Thinking about grabbing YOLO Dark. 10 g citrulline malate with 375mg caffeine, 200 mg DMHA, 200 mg eria, and neurofactor among other things.

That does look like a good one! My only issue with it is I would have to order from a place I am not familiar with.
 
That does look like a good one! My only issue with it is I would have to order from a place I am not familiar with.
Decided to go ahead and order it from a new place for me. Blue Bomb flavor. If you want I can PM you with place, otherwise I can let you know how it goes after I receive it!
 
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