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I’m thinking of giving methyl blue or Adderall er a try next. I specifically used excelsior so I could take it before work and have energy all day and train after.
Not a fan of adderall at all. I do have a bottle of methyl blue just sitting here. I am not feeling adventurous enough to actually use it lol
 
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Have you looked at the lineup from Alpha Lion by chance? I’m using their Superhuman Pre now and it’s very good. Probably too light on stims for you, but they have a stronger one.
 
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I was going to say it seems like you have an abundance of preworkouts already based on your posts in the Daily Workout Stacks thread. It‘s like you have someone new everyday! I need to try some of the ones you have up there. Where the hell are you still scoring OG Kraken and Conquer Unleashed??!!

Well, all I can say is you could try this…haha!

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I want to try their brain blitz
 
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Have you looked at the lineup from Alpha Lion by chance? I’m using their Superhuman Pre now and it’s very good. Probably too light on stims for you, but they have a stronger one.
I never tried the pre before because it had 350mg of l-theanine in it. Although, they did reformulate it somewhat recently and now has 150mg in the Superhuman Supreme. That one looks like it could be a good fit for me.
 

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Not a fan of adderall at all. I do have a bottle of methyl blue just sitting here. I am not feeling adventurous enough to actually use it lol
Pretty sure when I looked at the ingredients it list dmt. Never used it but know it is a strong hallucinogen. Lol Not sure why it’s in a stim but malabs makes good stuff so I’m sure there. Is a reason.
 
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I recently took 2 pre's.
First one was 7th Gear (Axe & Sledge). Good focus, good energy, good endurance but a little fatigued near the end of the workout. Tasted good aswell.

Currently on ABE (Applied Nutr.) with Dynamine in it, other flavours of this product don't have it.
I had the Energy flavour in a sample, which tasted exactly as RedBull. No dynamine in this one.
Ordered the Strawberry Mojito, which also tastes incredibly like it. Even has the minty freshness to it.
I would rate this over 7th Gear in every aspect especially the endurance part.
Dynamine version does give some crash afterwards
 
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I recently took 2 pre's.
First one was 7th Gear (Axe & Sledge). Good focus, good energy, good endurance but a little fatigued near the end of the workout. Tasted good aswell.

Currently on ABE (Applied Nutr.) with Dynamine in it, other flavours of this product don't have it.
I had the Energy flavour in a sample, which tasted exactly as RedBull. No dynamine in this one.
Ordered the Strawberry Mojito, which also tastes incredibly like it. Even has the minty freshness to it.
I would rate this over 7th Gear in every aspect especially the endurance part.
Dynamine version does give some crash afterwards
The only good thing about Dynamine is it’s cool name lol
 
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Pretty sure when I looked at the ingredients it list dmt. Never used it but know it is a strong hallucinogen. Lol Not sure why it’s in a stim but malabs makes good stuff so I’m sure there. Is a reason.
Haha, DMT will never make it into a supplement :)
Maybe you saw dimethyltyramine and remembered the hard consonants. No worries on the ingredients for methyl blue.
 
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I never tried the pre before because it had 350mg of l-theanine in it. Although, they did reformulate it somewhat recently and now has 150mg in the Superhuman Supreme. That one looks like it could be a good fit for me.
They have some good stuff and flavoring (I’ve only tried one) is amazing. I’m going to snatch up a couple other flavors since I’ve heard they’re all very tasty. I will say this though, I’m not very stim tolerant and their pre has more stims than I’m accustomed to. I haven’t felt overly stimulated at all. So, if you’re a high stim guy, I’d probably skip the Pre and keep your eyes on Supreme as you mentioned.
 
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I didn't like new mesomorph v4 at all, first few days it was fine, sooner it started to give me big crash and depressive episode (Everytime I take it I have a bad thoughts)
Now my favorite stim pres are Arez-Titanium, Revange Nutrition - Hyperdose (with phenylpiracetam) and Chemix with Kanna. But everyone reacts differently, so it's only my personal experience
 

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I didn't like new mesomorph v4 at all, first few days it was fine, sooner it started to give me big crash and depressive episode
Just wondering - how often were you taking Mesomorph? How many days in a row? (I've been hesitant to use more than about 3 days a week)
 

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I didn't like new mesomorph v4 at all, first few days it was fine, sooner it started to give me big crash and depressive episode (Everytime I take it I have a bad thoughts)
Now my favorite stim pres are Arez-Titanium, Revange Nutrition - Hyperdose (with phenylpiracetam) and Chemix with Kanna. But everyone reacts differently, so it's only my personal experience
I've been seeing people mention Revange...they have some good looking products. Happy Bee and they have a loaded cissus product. Anyone have experience with them? Hyperdose must be decent?
 
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Just wondering - how often were you taking Mesomorph? How many days in a row? (I've been hesitant to use more than about 3 days a week)
I used to take it 3 days a week too. First times it was ok, average pre-workout without side effects, then it started to give me a lethargic crash and very bad mood
 
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I've been seeing people mention Revange...they have some good looking products. Happy Bee and they have a loaded cissus product. Anyone have experience with them? Hyperdose must be decent?
This brand is most popular in my country, Russia. People buy their stuff as soon as it's in the market. I'm surprised it's not that popular in US, though it's made in Vegas
 
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I’m thinking of giving methyl blue or Adderall er a try next. I specifically used excelsior so I could take it before work and have energy all day and train after.
Theres something wrong with methyl blue, not in a good way. Ive taken a lot of stimulants, and have high tolerance, including excelsior, adderall etc.
But when I took methyl blue it was a terrible experience, nd I took lower than the reccomended dose. I couldnt catch my breath, like I was drowning. I wasnt even working out, was just on my pc. Not one positive thing, no energy, euphoria, nothing. I could easily see someone having serious health issues after taking it.
 
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I used to take it 3 days a week too. First times it was ok, average pre-workout without side effects, then it started to give me a lethargic crash and very bad mood
That’s good feedback. I plan to only take it 1 day per week as it will just be part of my rotating pres.
 

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Kigelia africana extract is one of the ingredients in Excelsior that we know of. @ELROCK or anyone else, have you used kigelia africana extract in any other preworkout besides Excelsior?
 
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Kigelia africana extract is one of the ingredients in Excelsior that we know of. @ELROCK or anyone else, have you used kigelia africana extract in any other preworkout besides Excelsior?
Isn’t that just DMHA?
 
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The one out of that lineup that I am interested in trying is the DVST8 so looking forward to
seeing your thoughts on it cause it gets great feedback.
Same well DVST8 and Mesomorph are the two I was looking forward to most. I am a bit apprehensive to try the DVST8 because I think it’s definitely going to be the hardest hitting pre. I am waiting for a leg day that I need a strong push.
 
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Same well DVST8 and Mesomorph are the two I was looking forward to most. I am a bit apprehensive to try the DVST8 because I think it’s definitely going to be the hardest hitting pre. I am waiting for a leg day that I need a strong push.
Wow, that current DVST8 seems to have quite a few good things going on there. It will be interesting to see how hard or uncomfortable the Yohimbe extracts come across though.
 
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Appollon nutrition Assassin looks stacked
I just received Hooligan and bare knuckle in the mail I will run the hooligans in the morning. Just finishing the DVST8. I don’t care for the taste but it mixed ok and gives u one heck of a ignite at the gym. EL JEFE was awesome and I enjoyed that one they also have a non stim sicario that’s good for those whom well I’m a stim junkie some are not. Excelsior mixes well taste good and rocks. Thee end
 
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Oh I posted how I liked it in another thread.

Wow DVST8 of the Union is a great pre! I had high hopes for it and it did not disappoint; actually it was quite a bit better then anticipated for me.

I felt it come on within minutes of drinking. This will be perfect for me because I usually workout first thing in the morning before work. The boundless energy lasted for a good part of the day after the workout (maybe 5 hours?). No crash so it was actually tough to tell when the effects dissipated.

I only dosed it at 1.25 scoops this time and can see myself trying 1.5 scoops eventually. I won’t need a full 2 scoops of this one. The only side I noticed at 1.25 scoops was cold hands from the Y and AY for the first hour.
 
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I’m up two scoops still hits me not like that though… it’s time for me to jump that ship for awhile. I too workout before workout and that’s pretty early some days I crash hard and I’ve tried to convince myself it was not the pre but meh let’s stick with that
 
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I’m up two scoops still hits me not like that though… it’s time for me to jump that ship for awhile. I too workout before workout and that’s pretty early some days I crash hard and I’ve tried to convince myself it was not the pre but meh let’s stick with that
Try rotating the preworkout products and it should help some with building up tolerance to them it seems to work for me. Sure, some will have similar stim ingredients so I try using a completely different one the next day.

Here are some of my favorites that you may like too:

Dark Labs Flame
God Status Zeus
God Status Krak’n
Sparta OG Kraken
Imperial Excelsior
Imperial Thermal Spark
Dark Energy
Anything with Amp citrate in it.
I also liked the new Mesomorph V4 I just tried for the first time yesterday.
 
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Try rotating the preworkout products and it should help some with building up tolerance to them it seems to work for me. Sure, some will have similar stim ingredients so I try using a completely different one the next day.

Here are some of my favorites that you may like too:

Dark Labs Flame
God Status Zeus
God Status Krak’n
Sparta OG Kraken
Imperial Excelsior
Imperial Thermal Spark
Dark Energy
Anything with Amp citrate in it.
I also liked the new Mesomorph V4 I just tried for the first time yesterday.
Thank you! You rock!
 
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I used the AdreNOlyn Underground this morning. It felt like a very average pre to me. Maybe the dendrobium 10:1 extract is not that noticeable stim even at 600mg? No negative sides. I will try it again to get a better feel for it.
 
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Unbound's Unload(stim) and Unbent are pretty solid if looking to avoid the exotic stims for a while or just to rotate in. Very honorable mention to their Unlock powdered fat burner/thermo. at just one scoop it had sweat POURING off of me with just LISS. cardio.

Unbound is a Nutra-Bio line primarily for brick and mortar stores if wondering.
 

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I used the AdreNOlyn Underground this morning. It felt like a very average pre to me. Maybe the dendrobium 10:1 extract is not that noticeable stim even at 600mg? No negative sides. I will try it again to get a better feel for it.
I've never felt ANYTHING from Dendrobium or AMPiberry to me they are both fillers companies put into
pre's and honestly it's a waste and they should put something better for focus.
 
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I've never felt ANYTHING from Dendrobium or AMPiberry to me they are both fillers companies put into
pre's and honestly it's a waste and they should put something better for focus.
I thought the Dendrobium would have at least some effect at this dose. I want to try it again to decide for sure. And the Juniper Ampiberry is put in formulas to supposedly help with the absorption of the other stims.
 
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Unbound's Unload(stim) and Unbent are pretty solid if looking to avoid the exotic stims for a while or just to rotate in. Very honorable mention to their Unlock powdered fat burner/thermo. at just one scoop it had sweat POURING off of me with just LISS. cardio.

Unbound is a Nutra-Bio line primarily for brick and mortar stores if wondering.
I will check these. Thanks.
 
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I've never felt ANYTHING from Dendrobium or AMPiberry to me they are both fillers companies put into
pre's and honestly it's a waste and they should put something better for focus.
Ampiberry most certainly has an effect on me, and not a good one. Take a product with all standard ingredients I have used and add ampiberry and I will feel like dog chit. It is a strong pass for me personally.
 
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Found a deal on it and got it for 58 when it was selling for 70. I’ll report back when I get it.
I write this one off in the past because the caffeine content is too high for me. But…no that I look at it I can see doing a 1 scoop and add some CM or glycer pump to it and it may work out well. Plus I think I saw it on sale for $48 so at 40 servings that would be real reasonable.
 
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Unbound's Unload(stim) and Unbent are pretty solid if looking to avoid the exotic stims for a while or just to rotate in. Very honorable mention to their Unlock powdered fat burner/thermo. at just one scoop it had sweat POURING off of me with just LISS. cardio.

Unbound is a Nutra-Bio line primarily for brick and mortar stores if wondering.
Unload has a nice looking profile, but too much Y and AY in there for me.

Unbent is a very good looking pump product.
 
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Only complaint is Citrulline could of been higher. I think hooligan has less stims and more pump ingredients by same company.
DVST8 did more for me than Hooligan but I’ll give it another go tomorrow to see …
 
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I used the Defiant Unleashed this morning and thought it was good! It will be added in to my rotating pres.
 

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