theswede
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You can make bumper stickers pretty easily these days, just gotta google search and you'll fine vendors. Probably make a killing off that slogan!
Anyone worried if Corona virus keeps spreading the gyms will shut down?
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You can make bumper stickers pretty easily these days, just gotta google search and you'll fine vendors. Probably make a killing off that slogan!
Rocket3015
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bigdadybry
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Follow-up:
Interesting COVID Ab test results...
"I have neither had nor been exposed to COVID", according to the doctor.
I shared a bed and a house with someone who test positive, acquired what was equivalent to an allergy, noticed a slight loss of taste and smell, yet the lab results indicate otherwise.
Everyone that was in our group around Christmas came down with it, the older folks were hit the hardest, the children showed no symptoms, and all that got tested were positive.
Interesting COVID Ab test results...
"I have neither had nor been exposed to COVID", according to the doctor.
I shared a bed and a house with someone who test positive, acquired what was equivalent to an allergy, noticed a slight loss of taste and smell, yet the lab results indicate otherwise.
Everyone that was in our group around Christmas came down with it, the older folks were hit the hardest, the children showed no symptoms, and all that got tested were positive.
BamBam54
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Newest mutation from Peru is now called Lambda. Death toll in South America has been pretty bad... Peru has more deaths per population than anywhere in the world. But naming this mutation after that fraternity from the movie "Revenge of the Nerds" is goofy.
My wife is going to get an antibody test this week. Figure if she already has the natural antibodies she will feel better about skipping the vaccine. I'm still in no rush to take any action one way or the other....
My wife is going to get an antibody test this week. Figure if she already has the natural antibodies she will feel better about skipping the vaccine. I'm still in no rush to take any action one way or the other....
dixonk
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Here the blood institute provides free antibody testing if you donate blood.
BamBam54
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Apparently testing labs (like Labcorp and Quest here in Maryland) are more than willing to do the antibody test. Cool !
Labcorp says it's just $10, and the rest gets sent to either your insurance company if they will cover it OR the Federal agency supporting the tests. Win win.
If wifey confirms antibodies then it makes sense for me to check next.
Labcorp says it's just $10, and the rest gets sent to either your insurance company if they will cover it OR the Federal agency supporting the tests. Win win.
If wifey confirms antibodies then it makes sense for me to check next.
GreenMachineX
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I've donated blood 4 times since covid kicked off. Antibodies negative every time
theswede
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I've donated blood 4 times since covid kicked off. Antibodies negative every time
Headed down to the Red Cross here in an hour to donate and get those antibodies tested!
BamBam54
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Update- wifey did not have antibodies. Strange. She spent a full weekend in close quarters with her sick father who was confirmed to have covid, when her Mom and sis also got it.
Maybe it's not as wildly transmissible as claimed? Wifey has blood type O. In the beginning they said type O was less likely to catch covid. But if you look on line now, the CDC has changed its tune. I bet they reversed their opinion on Type O blood just to pressure those people into getting the vaccine too.
Speaking of the golden vaccine, did anyone see this new data???
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Maybe it's not as wildly transmissible as claimed? Wifey has blood type O. In the beginning they said type O was less likely to catch covid. But if you look on line now, the CDC has changed its tune. I bet they reversed their opinion on Type O blood just to pressure those people into getting the vaccine too.
Speaking of the golden vaccine, did anyone see this new data???
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dixonk
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My wife was right next to me the whole time I had it and was around my son and daughter who had it as well. She does not have any antibodies. We should be questioning why the govt is insistent on making this stupid lame ass virus into the Black Plague they want it to be.
dixonk
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B POS
thebigt
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if i had got the vaccine, i would be more concerned about researchers now saying immunity may only be good for 4 months....this means a whole lot of people could lose immunity before/during this years flu season.
who's ready for a booster shot?
BamBam54
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I think the BIG story is that the article I posted showed Pfizer Vax only 39% effective at preventing covid delta variant, and boasting about an 88% rate of preventing hospitalization.
But then I remembered.... all through covid since the start, we have had a roughly 88% chance of being hospitalized.
Shady numbers and fake hype???
But then I remembered.... all through covid since the start, we have had a roughly 88% chance of being hospitalized.
Shady numbers and fake hype???
thebigt
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man, you know the government has not and would not ever lie to the people!!!!!
thebigt
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for how long?I guess the next big news headline will be- if you take the vaccine you will have a 99.5% survivability rate.
february 23, 2021 fda recommends expedited trials for covid 19 BOOSTER SHOTS.
some researchers are saying immunity may only last 6 months, and that a booster shot might be needed for immunity against variants.
bigdadybry
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Probably better to test and rely on memory T and B cells vs Ab levels.
Here is an article discussing a study focused on natural immunity (post-exposure/infection and recovery) and educates on the role of memory T and B cells.
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Here is an article discussing a study focused on natural immunity (post-exposure/infection and recovery) and educates on the role of memory T and B cells.
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bigdadybry
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More info regarding disappearing Ab levels:
"This suggests that antibodies to COVID may not last very long. But this does not exclude the existence of memory T and B cells, capable of re-emerging from their dormant states to protect against re-infection. In other words, the antibodies that B cells make during initial exposure disappear in a few weeks, but the memory cells generated as a consequence of this persist for much longer."
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"This suggests that antibodies to COVID may not last very long. But this does not exclude the existence of memory T and B cells, capable of re-emerging from their dormant states to protect against re-infection. In other words, the antibodies that B cells make during initial exposure disappear in a few weeks, but the memory cells generated as a consequence of this persist for much longer."
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thebigt
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according to this anyone who has already had covid should be exempt from any restrictions placed on non-vaccinated....but i have money on it not happening.
bigdadybry
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I agree on both accounts.
thebigt
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some researchers are saying that immunity after vaccination could only be good for 6 months.
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Kronic
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my office is getting ready to go back to work in person. screw that I'm opting to stay remote. I kinda doubt they will actually pull it off. the moment one person gets tested positive for Delta they're gonna go apeshit. even if they don't show symptoms, I'm sure they will contact trace everyone
BamBam54
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Here's the thing about Delta variant from India:
1) India has a covid death rate of 300/million population. New Jersey has a covid death rate of almost 3000/million. We already survived 10x worse!
2) Yeah, India got hit by delta. And they got over it. No more front page news. Big spike/wave, and then gone. How did they get over the wave? Hint - it wasn't by vaccine, because they only have 10% fully vaccinated in India !!
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1) India has a covid death rate of 300/million population. New Jersey has a covid death rate of almost 3000/million. We already survived 10x worse!
2) Yeah, India got hit by delta. And they got over it. No more front page news. Big spike/wave, and then gone. How did they get over the wave? Hint - it wasn't by vaccine, because they only have 10% fully vaccinated in India !!
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thebigt
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sacred cows???
Kronic
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supposedly the vaccine they have in India is only 60% effective on Delta variant anyways
BamBam54
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And they still got through the delta spike to the other side. Even without forcing vaccinations on everyone!!
Have you seen the latest data on how our Pfizer vaccine does against Delta?
Kronic
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I think last I saw was 80% for Pfizer but I think that was a few weeks ago
BamBam54
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The latest data I saw says Pfizer (our best) is only 39% effective at stopping delta, and 88% effective at preventing hospitalizations.
But if you remember way back, since this thing first started only about 10-15% of covid cases were being hospitalized... Even before we had a vaccine.
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thebigt
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it also says that 4 out of 5 who were hospitalized were fully vaccinated....hold on now-i thought we are being told that vaccination prevents severe symptoms, why would someone with mild symptoms need hospitalization?
dixonk
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Immune system or curry powder?
thebigt
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bigdadybry
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Dr. Mark Gordon has some interesting data on India, COVID, natural treatments and prophylaxis inherent in their diet.
It may be best to use the key word "quercetin" in the search to narrow down the results since he also mentioned zinc, D3, turmeric, curcumin... quercetin is a more unique search term.
He made these statements back in Jan 2021 or earlier, if memory serves correct.
It may be best to use the key word "quercetin" in the search to narrow down the results since he also mentioned zinc, D3, turmeric, curcumin... quercetin is a more unique search term.
He made these statements back in Jan 2021 or earlier, if memory serves correct.
Kronic
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Dr. Mark Gordon has some interesting data on India, COVID, natural treatments and prophylaxis inherent in their diet.
It may be best to use the key word "quercetin" in the search to narrow down the results since he also mentioned zinc, D3, turmeric, curcumin... quercetin is a more unique search term.
He made these statements back in Jan 2021 or earlier, if memory serves correct.
I love how han swolo and follidrone both have quercetin crystals
Kronic
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have we talked about Australia yet? I guess they have stay at home orders and deployed the army to Sydney
BamBam54
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Can't figure out why the US is acting as if only [forced] mass vaccinations can stop the delta variant... when India got over their big delta wave and are now back to a lower death rate than US, having only 10% of population vaccinated.
Along with recent data showing our best Pfizer vaccine is less than 39% effective at preventing the virus.
Along with recent data showing our best Pfizer vaccine is less than 39% effective at preventing the virus.
Kronic
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man there was a CNN video I watched on YouTube. they show such misleading information. they say the vaccines are 99.999% effective at preventing death. and then they say non vaccinated people are at 25x the risk of death. dude that's such a low number! 0.001 x 25 is 0.025 PERCENT. (maybe I did the math wrong) Some government agencies are now requiring employees to either be vaccinated OR take a weekly covid test. like what the **** dude vaccinated people would benefit from the testing just as much. they're just trying to punish unvaccinated and it doesn't make any sense
BamBam54
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They are definitely playing fast and loose with the numbers! Like the death statistic for vaccinated people... I saw an article saying only about 1700 vaccinated people in US have died from covid. And the author was saying how great that statistic was compared to the 620,000 that have died so far.
But wait.... Some 500,000 of those died before there was even a vaccine, so you CAN'T compare the vaccinated death numbers to a total mostly derived from a time before vaccines existed!!
But wait.... Some 500,000 of those died before there was even a vaccine, so you CAN'T compare the vaccinated death numbers to a total mostly derived from a time before vaccines existed!!
Whisky
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there are now studies coming out suggesting that transmission of the delta variant is almost the same in unvaccinated as in vaccinated people…….so suggesting vaccination is required to stop transmission appears to be a falsehood
thebigt
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lol..i will never forget watching that cnn reporter covering kenosha wisconsin riot calling it a 'MOSTLY PEACEFUL PROTEST' with fires raging in background and looters running around with armfuls of ill gotten gains, lol.
cnn is a joke!!!
bigdadybry
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I also saw that "fast and loose" playing with the numbers this morning.
For example: "Less than 50% of the population is currently vaccinated". True, the number is 49.6% as of that day, but that is EVERYONE.
When you look at the percent of the population above 18 who have been fully vaccinated, the number is 60.6%; above 12, 58.1%.
Considering the vaccine is not approved for emergency use in certain age groups, one would think these numbers would be excluded from the "% of the population vaccinated" conversation. Unless the goal is shock and awe...
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For example: "Less than 50% of the population is currently vaccinated". True, the number is 49.6% as of that day, but that is EVERYONE.
When you look at the percent of the population above 18 who have been fully vaccinated, the number is 60.6%; above 12, 58.1%.
Considering the vaccine is not approved for emergency use in certain age groups, one would think these numbers would be excluded from the "% of the population vaccinated" conversation. Unless the goal is shock and awe...
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bigdadybry
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7 Day cases vs deaths per 100k, historical and since the Jan 2021 peak:
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