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Found a better link and fixed it. Here it is. I don’t know why the chick cut him off thocan't see videos???
Inb4 the provaxxers say they are smarter than a conspiracy theorist professor of viral immunology/pathology.Found a better link and fixed it. Here it is. I don’t know why the chick cut him off tho
just remember, the companies making vaccine have immunity from prosecution in both criminal and civil courts--42 U.S. code 300aa-22-standards of responsibility....if you get sick or die due to complications from vaccine you are out of luck....i wonder why vaccine manufacturers were granted this immunity?Inb4 the provaxxers say they are smarter than a conspiracy theorist professor of viral immunology/pathology.
what is curious is that males are more prone to worse outcomes from covid than women but yet it is men with lower testosterone who are at higher risk than males with higher testosterone, this seems really interesting?...unless i am misunderstanding this?
"In this single-center cohort study of patients with COVID-19, lower testosterone concentrations during hospitalization were associated with increased disease severity and inflammation in men."
Nothing to do with vaccine. Just thought it's interesting.
so much for freedom of choice-eh...unless you are hardcore against getting THE SHOTI'm scheduled for first pfizer shot on friday. Really struggling with the decision to take it or not. Lot's of friends got either sick or lot's of sides from the shot.
The thing is, our country is making it hard to not take the shot. You can't sit in a restaurant (inside), can't cross the border, etc. without a quick test, or prof of vaccination, etc.
I’ve been invited to get mine multiple times (by phone, letter, email etc). Just ignoring it the moment as the uk haven’t mandated it for anything I want to do (haven’t mandated it for anything really although I believe some other countries will only let us travel there if fully vaccinated)I'm scheduled for first pfizer shot on friday. Really struggling with the decision to take it or not. Lot's of friends got either sick or lot's of sides from the shot.
The thing is, our country is making it hard to not take the shot. You can't sit in a restaurant (inside), can't cross the border, etc. without a quick test, or prof of vaccination, etc.
this was 6 days ago---employers can legally require covid-19 vaccination for employees to enter workplace according to new guideline issued by the equal employment opportunity commision.I’ve been invited to get mine multiple times (by phone, letter, email etc). Just ignoring it the moment as the uk haven’t mandated it for anything I want to do (haven’t mandated it for anything really although I believe some other countries will only let us travel there if fully vaccinated)
Until I feel it’s negatively affecting my life I’m not planning to get it. I’m still no anti vaxxer but having read what I can and listened to as much as I can it just doesn’t sit right with me. The deciding factor was that it doesn’t stop transmission which means it’s not protecting other people, this in my mind it’s only my health I’m ‘risking’ and I believe the risks from the vaccine (small as they might be) outweigh the small risk from covid
No way that happens. The more they try and force people and hide information, the more people arn't going to want to take it. They are going to push more of this "take it or miss out on these privileges" nonsense.only a estimated 40% of adult Americans are fully vaccinated with 56.3% having at least one shot--diben set a goal of 70% of adults to have at least 1 shot bu july 4th....for this to happen look for the diben administration to take away every freedom possible to coerce people to get shot
this is a very slippery slope, imo.
It's exactly like you say (based on this study) and it is curious. I may have to contact my gear source. You know - just for the safety against this virus.what is curious is that males are more prone to worse outcomes from covid than women but yet it is men with lower testosterone who are at higher risk than males with higher testosterone, this seems really interesting?...unless i am misunderstanding this?
Yep, European countries are starting (or planning) to demand a proof of vaccination to be able to enter their country. No other 'forcing' moves at play at where I live so far.I'm scheduled for first pfizer shot on friday. Really struggling with the decision to take it or not. Lot's of friends got either sick or lot's of sides from the shot.
The thing is, our country is making it hard to not take the shot. You can't sit in a restaurant (inside), can't cross the border, etc. without a quick test, or prof of vaccination, etc.
I got both of my Pfizer shots, no sickness, no sides, no problems.I'm scheduled for first pfizer shot on friday. Really struggling with the decision to take it or not. Lot's of friends got either sick or lot's of sides from the shot.
The thing is, our country is making it hard to not take the shot. You can't sit in a restaurant (inside), can't cross the border, etc. without a quick test, or prof of vaccination, etc.
Same here got both Pfizer shots no issue.I got both of my Pfizer shots, no sickness, no sides, no problems.
Great. Tnx for the info.I got both of my Pfizer shots, no sickness, no sides, no problems.
Yes. Going out of the country is a hassle. You need either proof of vaccination, a quick test or PCR, or antiboides test (I think).Yep, European countries are starting (or planning) to demand a proof of vaccination to be able to enter their country. No other 'forcing' moves at play at where I live so far.
It doesn't sit right with me also.The deciding factor was that it doesn’t stop transmission which means it’s not protecting other people, this in my mind it’s only my health I’m ‘risking’ and I believe the risks from the vaccine (small as they might be) outweigh the small risk from covid
So yes and no. People can ask about your healthcare information and if you give it freely, that is fine (why people give it out to anyone is beyond me). Where it becomes illegal is where people require the vaccine or tell you they need your healthcare information and you don't provide consent. For example, in order to do your job or in order to access privileges that enable you to do your job. It becomes gray because let's be real, corporations and the government will find ways to skirt HIPAA or loopholes to dance around it. When it comes to getting what they want, when have laws ever really stood in their way???Doesn’t things like the hipa law protect against anyone inquiring about anything medical, which I would think includes whether you got the shot ??
the EEOC made it a law that employers can mandate vaccination for employees. pretty sure that the government is offering incentives to employers who mandate vaccination as term of employment.So yes and no. People can ask about your healthcare information and if you give it freely, that is fine (why people give it out to anyone is beyond me). Where it becomes illegal is where people require the vaccine or tell you they need your healthcare information and you don't provide consent. For example, in order to do your job or in order to access privileges that enable you to do your job. It becomes gray because let's be real, corporations and the government will find ways to skirt HIPAA or loopholes to dance around it. When it comes to getting what they want, when have laws ever really stood in their way???
I would wager most lie or just tell their employers. I personally wouldn't say anything to anyone. Something along the lines of "I'm not comfortable sharing that" or "that is something private". If they pry more into it or restrict your ability to do your job, I would consider speaking to a laywer or sending that form I shared.
My company has vaguely told us to get it or that if we travel, we need to get it, but they have been careful about directly pressing....at least so far.
PS: Say this as someone who has been in healthcare 10-15 years
When they are literally bribing people to inject something into their body you gotta start asking question to their motivation. Also, this is insight into how they perceive us and how they think we perceive ourselves...that we will inject ourselves for a $5 blunt?! Aka shoes they don’t respect us and that they think we don’t respect ourselves. Super offensive actually.For fvck sakes
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if they really want to offer a bribe they should have broke out the cheech and chong up in smoke joint... c'mon, manWhen they are literally bribing people to inject something into their body you gotta start asking question to their motivation. Also, this is insight into how they perceive us and how they think we perceive ourselves...that we will inject ourselves for a $5 blunt?! Aka shoes they don’t respect us and that they think we don’t respect ourselves. Super offensive actually.
Ya I have an issue with the bribing. I think it’s everyone’s choice to either get vaccinated or not, but I think this is crazy. To be completely transparent, I got fully vaccinated pretty early on. I was up there on the VA’s list of people to offer vaccination due to an autoimmune disorder. I still debated it, but when I saw what the virus did to my mother and sister, plus my med issues, it was worth the gamble for me to just get it. My mother, sister, and I always got the worst of whatever flu or bug went around our house. We’ve known for a long time that our immune systems aren’t the best no matter what we do to help it along. Knowing we react very similarly to viruses, and seeing them still struggling months after testing positive (they still have limited smell and taste, as well as lung damage), it was enough for me to get it. But that’s me and that was my decision. No coercion necessary because I made the decision based on past experiences and family history. My wife will not get vaccinated. She has a strong immune system and doesn’t think she needs it. That’s her choice, and I, for one, won’t say sh!t about that. In fact I support those who don’t get it. I support those who do as well lol. As long as you’re making the decision for yourself, then bravo! This bribing sh!t is a bunch of nonsense.When they are literally bribing people to inject something into their body you gotta start asking question to their motivation. Also, this is insight into how they perceive us and how they think we perceive ourselves...that we will inject ourselves for a $5 blunt?! Aka shoes they don’t respect us and that they think we don’t respect ourselves. Super offensive actually.
bravo to you-and bravo to your wife...i agree bribery is not good--but telling people they can't work if they aren't vaccinated is a very slippery slope everyone should be against, imo.Ya I have an issue with the bribing. I think it’s everyone’s choice to either get vaccinated or not, but I think this is crazy. To be completely transparent, I got fully vaccinated pretty early on. I was up there on the VA’s list of people to offer vaccination due to an autoimmune disorder. I still debated it, but when I saw what the virus did to my mother and sister, plus my med issues, it was worth the gamble for me to just get it. My mother, sister, and I always got the worst of whatever flu or bug went around our house. We’ve known for a long time that our immune systems aren’t the best no matter what we do to help it along. Knowing we react very similarly to viruses, and seeing them still struggling months after testing positive (they still have limited smell and taste, as well as lung damage), it was enough for me to get it. But that’s me and that was my decision. No coercion necessary because I made the decision based on past experiences and family history. My wife will not get vaccinated. She has a strong immune system and doesn’t think she needs it. That’s her choice, and I, for one, won’t say sh!t about that. In fact I support those who don’t get it. I support those who do as well lol. As long as you’re making the decision for yourself, then bravo! This bribing sh!t is a bunch of nonsense.
Absolutely agree man! It seems we’re also going to need “travel papers” to move about our own country soon. I mean, it wouldn’t be shocking.bravo to you-and bravo to your wife...i agree bribery is not good--but telling people they can't work if they aren't vaccinated is a very slippery slope everyone should be against, imo.
i don't understand how anyone regardless of political affiliation could support this?Absolutely agree man! It seems we’re also going to need “travel papers” to move about our own country soon. I mean, it wouldn’t be shocking.
Very well said. I am highly skeptical of the vaccine but I’m more skeptic of people who can’t critically think. You seemed to very much weigh the pros/con and come to your decision. Many don’t do this.Ya I have an issue with the bribing. I think it’s everyone’s choice to either get vaccinated or not, but I think this is crazy. To be completely transparent, I got fully vaccinated pretty early on. I was up there on the VA’s list of people to offer vaccination due to an autoimmune disorder. I still debated it, but when I saw what the virus did to my mother and sister, plus my med issues, it was worth the gamble for me to just get it. My mother, sister, and I always got the worst of whatever flu or bug went around our house. We’ve known for a long time that our immune systems aren’t the best no matter what we do to help it along. Knowing we react very similarly to viruses, and seeing them still struggling months after testing positive (they still have limited smell and taste, as well as lung damage), it was enough for me to get it. But that’s me and that was my decision. No coercion necessary because I made the decision based on past experiences and family history. My wife will not get vaccinated. She has a strong immune system and doesn’t think she needs it. That’s her choice, and I, for one, won’t say sh!t about that. In fact I support those who don’t get it. I support those who do as well lol. As long as you’re making the decision for yourself, then bravo! This bribing sh!t is a bunch of nonsense.
if i were in his position with a compromised immune system i probably would have got the shot also.Very well said. I am highly skeptical of the vaccine but I’m more skeptic of people who can’t critically think. You seemed to very much weigh the pros/con and come to your decision. Many don’t do this.
Everyone should make their own choice.if i were in his position with a compromised immune system i probably would have got the shot also.
I don't believe this, I haven't missed a day of work in 25 years!Great. Tnx for the info.
I'm almost never sick and this is what worries me, as far as I understand it, people who have better immune systems tend to have more sides from the shot.
Wow, that's quite a track record!I haven't missed a day of work in 25 years!
I think they'd have a lot more takers if it was free ammoWhen they are literally bribing people to inject something into their body you gotta start asking question to their motivation. Also, this is insight into how they perceive us and how they think we perceive ourselves...that we will inject ourselves for a $5 blunt?! Aka shoes they don’t respect us and that they think we don’t respect ourselves. Super offensive actually.
fat chance that would happen--better chance of getting free heroin than free ammo from diben admin....just sayinI think they'd have a lot more takers if it was free ammo
cleveland clinic study shows no point vaccinating people who have had covid-19 and suggests the vaccines should be prioritized to people who haven't gotten the virus.Let me help you. They want everyone to have it so the economy and life goes back to normal.
Young guys think they are bulletproof in life. Same reason I see motorcycles go by on the highway at 90+
Got Covid - sick as dog for months. Wife hospitalized on breathing machine for 10 days. We got over it - but the vaccine shot was nothing compared to Covid's effect on your life.
Stop being stupid kids and listen to intelligent people - not ---
I’m sorry you guys suffered for so long but please quit using fear as a motivator and use logic. Your N of 2 means nothing in regards to everyone else’s reality. Waaaaay more people had mild cold symptoms. Either you both had bad luck with genetics or haven’t kept yourself healthy. Neither apply to anyone else.You guys spend so much time and effort to take care of your body and health. You really want to be sick and fatigued for months ?
Use your brain
I have known multiple people that have passed away from COVID. I also know a lot of people that have got it and have not passed away.i've asked this question several times now so i'll ask again....
how many people have personally known someone who has died from covid?
i have known well over 30 people who have had covid, but i haven't known a single person who has died from covid.... not even one.
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