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Ursa Major

i dont think profuse sweating is great, I wouldn't do cardio right after as an example. but your regular lift sesh should be ok. Nos makes the carrier to have a protective finish layer that helps keep it on the skin and not in your clothes.
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
i dont think profuse sweating is great, I wouldn't do cardio right after as an example. but your regular lift sesh should be ok. Nos makes the carrier to have a protective finish layer that helps keep it on the skin and not in your clothes.
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Cool. I'm not so much worried about it getting on clothes. I was curious about applying it in the morning and an hour or so later doing cardio and how that would work out.
 
how does Ursa Major compares to UR spray in term of dosage? I see the average dose of Ursa is 1-2ml per day which is 53-106mg per day But suggested UR spray dosage is 250mg of active compound per day. Why the daily dose of Ursa can be lower than UR spray?
 
Rostam said:
how does Ursa Major compares to UR spray in term of dosage? I see the average dose of Ursa is 1-2ml per day which is 53-106mg per day But suggested UR spray dosage is 250mg of active compound per day. Why the daily dose of Ursa can be lower than UR spray?
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Ur spray = 50 sprays (8ml)= 250mg
Ursa Major = 50mg/ml (I think)

I guess it's just based in each brands recommend dosages based on number of applicants per bottle.

Also unsure if they are the identical ursolic compound.
 
DieselNY said:
Ur spray = 50 sprays (8ml)= 250mg
Ursa Major = 50mg/ml (I think)

I guess it's just based in each brands recommend dosages based on number of applicants per bottle.

Also unsure if they are the identical ursolic compound.
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I believe Ur Spray has to convert to the active and Ursa is the active, no conversion.
 
Rostam said:
how does Ursa Major compares to UR spray in term of dosage? I see the average dose of Ursa is 1-2ml per day which is 53-106mg per day But suggested UR spray dosage is 250mg of active compound per day. Why the daily dose of Ursa can be lower than UR spray?
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First, there are a decent number of people who have cranked it up to 3-4 ml per day. That being said, we believe our carrier and our form of Ursolic Acid (sodium ursolate) offer better absorption. Last but not least the Arginine-Ursolic-Acetate molecule is about 66% UA vs Na-UA which is over 95% UA.
 
nostrum420 said:
First, there are a decent number of people who have cranked it up to 3-4 ml per day. That being said, we believe our carrier and our form of Ursolic Acid (sodium ursolate) offer better absorption. Last but not least the Arginine-Ursolic-Acetate molecule is about 66% UA vs Na-UA which is over 95% UA.
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Thank you.

Out of curiosity why plain Ursolic acid is not used in topical formulation? Is it less absorbed than different salts?
 
Rostam said:
Thank you.

Out of curiosity why plain Ursolic acid is not used in topical formulation? Is it less absorbed than different salts?
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It would be less bioavailable, yes. Also, it's virtually impossible to get free ursolic acid to dissolve into a transdermal carrier.
 
Right. Have no doubt about Ursa neither questioning the salt used in different formulations. I was just curious why nobody is using Ursolic Acid that would be probably cheaper than different salts. Because of absorption? solubility?
 
Anyone know if I should be avoiding applying Ursa to other spots I use TDs on? Running Icon One right now and applying it to the usual areas (shoulders, back, traps, etc.). Sounds like you guys are saying inner arms, knees, tops of feet are a good spot. How about forearms or back of the hands?
 
SumireHeanna said:
Anyone know if I should be avoiding applying Ursa to other spots I use TDs on? Running Icon One right now and applying it to the usual areas (shoulders, back, traps, etc.). Sounds like you guys are saying inner arms, knees, tops of feet are a good spot. How about forearms or back of the hands?
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The only reason I might advise against the backs of hands, is because people tend to wash their hands a lot now.
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
at 4 ml are u seeing the results u want?
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Absolutely. I haven’t even changed my diet. I’m just looking to recomp before I start 8wks of dienogen. My arms and chest look fuller and I’m much more vascular. It’s kinda crazy that running it at this dose has the effects it does. Full disclosure I recently added epichaos and triton to the mix as well. First month was all Ursa though.

With the way @nostrum420 runs bogos it’s easy to justify experimenting high doses.
 
wfreiling said:
Absolutely. I haven’t even changed my diet. I’m just looking to recomp before I start 8wks of dienogen. My arms and chest look fuller and I’m much more vascular. It’s kinda crazy that running it at this dose has the effects it does. Full disclosure I recently added epichaos and triton to the mix as well. First month was all Ursa though.

With the way @nostrum420 runs bogos it’s easy to justify experimenting high doses.
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Do you use epichaos daily or only on workout days? I'm asking because I've seen both dosing regimen with epicatechine. What dosage of it do you apply?
 
I like it I don’t love it, honestly. With that being said I believe it’s worth a try. I’m going to experiment with a higher dose and solo pwo
 
I like it I don’t love it, honestly. With that being said I believe it’s worth a try. I’m going to experiment with a higher dose and solo pwo
 
JKVol said:
Yeah I was just being silly. It’s a great product. I use it at 2ml in the AM
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I do 2ml around 8:30am shower around 2pm and 2ml before work around 3pm. My wife hates the smell so I’ve been trying not to dose anything before bed. One less thing I have to hear
 
I tend to find 1mL alone is enough to cover pretty much a whole arm, so I split it up over the day (doing 3mL) since I use other transdermals. Am I the only one that loves the mentholly smell of the stuff? 😅
 
SumireHeanna said:
I tend to find 1mL alone is enough to cover pretty much a whole arm, so I split it up over the day (doing 3mL) since I use other transdermals. Am I the only one that loves the mentholly smell of the stuff?
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yes. rubbery menthol isn’t pleasant lol
 
SumireHeanna said:
I tend to find 1mL alone is enough to cover pretty much a whole arm, so I split it up over the day (doing 3mL) since I use other transdermals. Am I the only one that loves the mentholly smell of the stuff? 😅
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my wife loves it.. i could take it or leave it. after 10-15 mins i dont smell it. ALSO... I use a sh17 ton of Apex product, and my house dont stink and the laundry dont stink.. so after a solid yr, if it lingered, that would show by now.
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
my wife loves it.. i could take it or leave it. after 10-15 mins i dont smell it. ALSO... I use a sh17 ton of Apex product, and my house dont stink and the laundry dont stink.. so after a solid yr, if it lingered, that would show by now.
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I actually kinda like the smell myself.

I use a Lot of Apex TDs, and my house or laundry doesn't smell.

And ..... Nobody has ever commented on the smell, Ever. Not friends, co-workers ... Nobody.
 
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