Donald Trump running for president

[HIT4ME]

I'm seeing everywhere media blaming Trump for the capitol violence. All I recall is when Trump said protest peacefully. Serious question, where, when and what did Trump say everything he is blamed for regarding DC capitol events?

Serious answer - if there is ONE thing I have learned about dealing with people who believe all the liberal propaganda it is to phrase things exactly like you just have. You will almost NEVER learn anything from it. Unfortunately, they rarely do either. They just get upset and dig in more.

Everything I have seen from Trump shows him telling people to remain peaceful, and says that we are the party that abides by the law.

On the other hand I was skeptical that the breach was BLM or Antifa people dressed like Trump supports, but hearing the man in the shooting video break character in a moment of reflex and yell, "F the Blue" made me take note. Now it looks like some of the people on film at the Antifa protests and BLM protests are also on film at the Capitol. It is so hard to believe anything though, maybe it it true, maybe it isn't.

It's like every conspiracy rolled into one paragraph lol

I actually had a similar thought when I first heard someone describe these sentences to me...it sounds like all the Trump accusations. Biden is going to be arrested for instamce.

Didn't he tweet beforehand for people to "fight like hell"?

Come on, for real? Didn't Biden say that in order to deal with battered women, we have to keep punching at it and punching at it?

The delusion to twist everything into more than it is can be a huge problem if we want to apply it equally on both sides...but Biden gets a pass, right?

I read a few posts on Gab that people were saying Biden only had 58M votes to trumps 75M. They were saying that any above 58M on Biden's side had been flipped from Trump to Biden. So not only are people asserting that 23M votes were flipped, that also means that they believe 98M people voted for Trump.

Ok, I can agree with one thing. People DO suck at math.

 

[ax1]

I read a few posts on Gab that people were saying Biden only had 58M votes to trumps 75M. They were saying that any above 58M on Biden's side had been flipped from Trump to Biden. So not only are people asserting that 23M votes were flipped, that also means that they believe 98M people voted for Trump.

A few Gab posts dont necessarily represent the claim of everybody else who questions election fraud.

 

[Jiigzz]

Serious answer - if there is ONE thing I have learned about dealing with people who believe all the liberal propaganda it is to phrase things exactly like you just have. You will almost NEVER learn anything from it. Unfortunately, they rarely do either. They just get upset and dig in more.

Everything I have seen from Trump shows him telling people to remain peaceful, and says that we are the party that abides by the law.

On the other hand I was skeptical that the breach was BLM or Antifa people dressed like Trump supports, but hearing the man in the shooting video break character in a moment of reflex and yell, "F the Blue" made me take note. Now it looks like some of the people on film at the Antifa protests and BLM protests are also on film at the Capitol. It is so hard to believe anything though, maybe it it true, maybe it isn't.



I actually had a similar thought when I first heard someone describe these sentences to me...it sounds like all the Trump accusations. Biden is going to be arrested for instamce.



Come on, for real? Didn't Biden say that in order to deal with battered women, we have to keep punching at it and punching at it?

The delusion to twist everything into more than it is can be a huge problem if we want to apply it equally on both sides...but Biden gets a pass, right?



Ok, I can agree with one thing. People DO suck at math.

Both are poor choices for phrases. People will derive any meaning from any statement that they want to hear, whether or not the speaker intended that meaning.

That's not a defence for Biden though, what he said was wrong

 

[Jiigzz]

There is a photo of this guy circulating which states that he is actually antifa as he was at a BLM riot.

They conveniently cropped out his spear and banner though.

 

[HIT4ME]

Both are poor choices for phrases. People will derive any meaning from any statement that they want to hear, whether or not the speaker intended that meaning.

That's not a defence for Biden though, what he said was wrong

Good enough. That was kind of ny point though. I think that Biden saying to keep punching, taken with some leniency means to keep fighting for what is right. His intent was different than the possible interpretation. And I think people should be smart enough to realize this and I think this is a good example of it.

Biden claiming someone isn't black if they don't vote for him is a different story.

But I am just saying that Trump saying to fight, for the majority of people, means legally. He has even outright told people to be peaceful and abide by the law....but that all gets cropped out.

Honestly, this is getting to be like no matter what side you are on there is an alternate reality and chaos and I am getting pretty sick of that.

 

[JeremyNG25]

Ahhh more friendly MAGA friends being so peaceful on parler

 

[jswain34]

Ahhh more friendly MAGA friends being so peaceful on parler View attachment 201038

Is this 1941 in Germany?

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

Is this 1941 in Germany?

Have you no love for the USA? Im afraid you are on the wrong side if not~

we are talking about provable high treason against the United states from foreign & within.

 

[jswain34]

Have you no love for the USA? Im afraid you are on the wrong side if not~

we are talking about provable high treason against the United states from foreign & within.

Please look what I quoted you imbecile. You support killing people’s children and grandchildren? If so, you are not only deluded, but also a sick, sick human being.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

Please look what I quoted you imbecile. You support killing people’s children and grandchildren? If so, you are not only deluded, but also a sick, sick human being.

don't put words in my mouth. I didn't outwrite say anything about you or your stance. I asked you a question, and followed that with a statement. about the time you call me names again I will just block you.

 

[jswain34]

don't put words in my mouth. I didn't outwrite say anything about you or your stance. I asked you a question, and followed that with a statement. about the time you call me names again I will just block you.

I responded to a picture where some insane individual proposes that people should kill democrats children, grandchildren, and wives by throwing them into wood chippers and burning them.

You quote my post and say “have you no love for the USA?”

Can you not see how that makes it appear that youre saying if i loved my country id also support those things? Your words, not mine.

Awww poor little Trumper snowflake is gonna block me.

 

[Jiigzz]

Have you no love for the USA? Im afraid you are on the wrong side if not~

we are talking about provable high treason against the United states from foreign & within.

Where's the evidence?

I mean, I see you posted something about the Pope being involved (lol) and how Apple are going to block the emergency broadcast system (not regulated by the phone manufacturer, and is required by law to exist) but nowhere have you actually substantiated those claims with anything.

I heard Trump is planning to move to China after the 20th, and will be the successor the the empire

 

[jswain34]

Where's the evidence?

He found 1 video of some guy, didnt you see? That’s as solid as evidence gets!

 

[Jiigzz]

He found 1 video of some guy, didnt you see? That’s as solid as evidence gets!

Haha oh yeah, that's right. Videos of people talking are evidence, how could I have forgotten.

 

[thebigt]

Haha oh yeah, that's right. Videos of people talking are evidence, how could I have forgotten.

lol...how many memes have you posted?

 

[Jiigzz]

lol...how many memes have you posted?

Ive tried posting evidence, but it just gets ignored or glossed over lol.

Generally though if someone challenged me I'd produce the evidence. That's the difference

 

[jswain34]

lol...how many memes have you posted?

He posts them as jokes, not as smoking gun evidence. Lol my goodness man. Some of you guys...

He doesnt claim high treason against the USA using a meme as evidence

 

[thebigt]

so much healing and unity here-eh?

 

[Jiigzz]

http://imgur.com/hsDWP0U

Heh

 

[thebigt]

He posts them as jokes, not as smoking gun evidence. Lol my goodness man. Some of you guys...

He doesnt claim high treason against the USA using a meme as evidence

did you not see the lol, in my post...

 

[thebigt]

http://imgur.com/hsDWP0U

Heh

unity and healing.....

 

[jswain34]

so much healing and unity here-eh?

You know im not a biden supporter, so thats funny.

Where’s your healing & unity preaching to the guy on parler talking about woodchipping children? You just gonna look past the fact that someone on “your side” is talking about such heinous acts as that?

 

[HIT4ME]

lol...how many memes have you posted?

I am glad I am safe. I get my news on Twitter and Facebook. It is comrad approved.

 

[Jiigzz]

I am glad I am safe. I get my news on Twitter and Facebook. It is comrad approved.

Probably why Comrad Trump liked it so much

 

[Jiigzz]

unity and healing.....

All under Trump though lol

 

[thebigt]

3 freezers full of meat, pantry full of canned goods and a month of-- good for 35 year survival rations....i live in the country with a 1/4 mile lane to my house and am armed to the teeth....i am prepared for the unity and healing


been prepping since march of last year, it was only a matter of time before the shyt hit the fan.

 

[thebigt]

All under Trump though lol

exactly...and come jan 20th everything will be lovely-eh?

 

[Jiigzz]

Hopefully they can find all these people.

I just realized what this was a picture of. Jesus. Heart literally sank.

Rest in peace

 

[thebigt]

You know im not a biden supporter, so thats funny.

Where’s your healing & unity preaching to the guy on parler talking about woodchipping children? You just gonna look past the fact that someone on “your side” is talking about such heinous acts as that?

you would have a valid point if i even knew what parler is....no one who is talking about woodchipping children is 'on my side', you should know me better than that, brother.

 

[thebigt]

Probably why Comrad Trump liked it so much

trump is in effect-ineffective at this point....it's time to move on!!!

 

[ax1]

Definitely antifa so sad they are blind and follow a person who was upset because the crowd looked low class. It’s funny as soon as it happened they said antifa of the guy sitting in the chair with all black, funny how they don’t mention the Trump flag strapped around his neck.

Im not saying this is the case in that photo at all, but you do have to realize that if Antifa, the Government, CIA, or any other opposing group wants to disrupt and destroy a political rally and/or group that they are supposed to blend in with the enemy.

 

[jswain34]

you would have a valid point if i even knew what parler is....no one who is talking about woodchipping children is 'on my side', you should know me better than that, brother.

Edit: nvm. Go back a few pages. The screenshot is there.

 

[ax1]

I feel bad for these cops at least the BLM protest police were in full riot gear. It just amazes me everyone didn’t think of securing the capitol more, if someone had a bomb strapped to them so many more than 6 people dead.

I wouldnt be surprised if there was a stand down order to allow it to happen so they can justify the incident to strip people's rights later.

Im not saying thats what happened, but its just common sense guerilla warfare tactics from thousands of years of government playbooks.

 

[Jiigzz]

*popcorn*

 

[dixonk]

 

[thebigt]

Don’t take this the wrong way in what kind of place do you live where u have to be paranoid about someone coming for you. Believe me when that does happens and the government comes for us them drones gonna be a son of a bitch to deal with.

i am talking about all the people who aren't prepared coming to steal from those who are....if i am being paranoid and nothing happens then i will be happy, but if things do get bad i would rather be prepared than not-eh?

kinda like a guy who buys a gun hoping he never has to use it-this is me, i am prepared for the worse hoping the worse doesn't happen-ya feel me?

 

[ax1]

True same for both sides my point is why can’t more people understand that bad players might be involved on both sides it’s always a one sided thing to push agendas.

Oh yeah, I agree with you 100%......I wouldnt trust anybody right now.

I wouldnt even trust Dump, he may just be the strings the puppet master is pulling on.

 

[ax1]

Once we realize we are all getting fucked and wake some things might change no matter if your independent republican or democrat.

I already realized that over a decade ago but people always put a tinfoil hat on my head, LOL!!!!!

I really dont have much hope, the fact that 165 million people voted for either Groper Joe or Dump was really saddening.

 

[thebigt]

Once we realize we are all getting fucked and wake some things might change no matter if your independent republican or democrat.

this might very well be the finest post you have made here....welcome to AM


NO politician is going to make healing and unity happen, it's up to WE THE PEOPLE

 

[thebigt]

I already realized that over a decade ago but people always put a tinfoil hat on my head, LOL!!!!!

I really dont have much hope, the fact that 165 million people voted for either Groper Joe or Dump was really saddening.

while i was out shopping today picked-up several rolls of reynolds wrap.

 

[ax1]

while i was out shopping today picked-up several rolls of reynolds wrap.

Hell fuqin yeah, welcome to the team!

 

[THOR 70]

3 freezers full of meat, pantry full of canned goods and a month of-- good for 35 year survival rations....i live in the country with a 1/4 mile lane to my house and am armed to the teeth....i am prepared for the unity and healing


been prepping since march of last year, it was only a matter of time before the shyt hit the fan.

Smart

 

[ax1]

3 freezers full of meat, pantry full of canned goods and a month of-- good for 35 year survival rations....i live in the country with a 1/4 mile lane to my house and am armed to the teeth....i am prepared for the unity and healing


been prepping since march of last year, it was only a matter of time before the shyt hit the fan.

Im researching "prepping bags" and may put something together so In case we need to quickly go out on the run. Medical stuff, portable water filter, mylar blanket, survival tent, etc.....

Id rather have shyt I never need that doesnt break the bank than go looking for everything when I gotta jet.

I wish I lived in your block, I live in a very liberal community and its hit or miss when it come to liberals and guns. Liberals do have shyt, and more so this year than ever but guns still freak people out. The smart thing to do is get with the community and organize emergency protocols and stuff like that, but I just dont feel good with that where I live. My neighborhood is full of very kind people, its hard to bring up conversations about emergency disasters with any of them. Im just trying to be smart and realistic but people dont get it and rationalize from a area of comfort.

 

[ax1]

http://imgur.com/hsDWP0U

Heh

Well....did she saying something thats inaccurate? Who is she talking to? I mean, personally I dont carry myself like that in public even if I was in a protest but I dont see what the big deal here is in regards to her comments, its true.

 

[ax1]

Have you no love for the USA? Im afraid you are on the wrong side if not~

we are talking about provable high treason against the United states from foreign & within.

Is this 1941 in Germany?

 

[ax1]

It’s official, and all on the tax payer tip of course.

 

[HIT4ME]

while i was out shopping today picked-up several rolls of reynolds wrap.

Nah, you need the UG stuff from Ax1. That is the only way to be sure the aluminum hasn't been tainted with brain invading nanoparticles.

Im researching "prepping bags" and may put something together so In case we need to quickly go out on the run. Medical stuff, portable water filter, mylar blanket, survival tent, etc.....

Id rather have shyt I never need that doesnt break the bank than go looking for everything when I gotta jet.

I wish I lived in your block, I live in a very liberal community and its hit or miss when it come to liberals and guns. Liberals do have shyt, and more so this year than ever but guns still freak people out. The smart thing to do is get with the community and organize emergency protocols and stuff like that, but I just dont feel good with that where I live. My neighborhood is full of very kind people, its hard to bring up conversations about emergency disasters with any of them. Im just trying to be smart and realistic but people dont get it and rationalize from a area of comfort.

I will tell you a few things that are easily underestimated- a solid yet reasonable weight fixed-blade knife. I have a KaBar Becker 2 that is a beast...and it is reasonably priced and I have no doubt I could hammer on it with a rock if I needed to chop wood with it. But there are nicer fixed blades.

A folder is good for backup, something cheap like a Rat1 is good. I am a big fan of my Zero Tolerance folders though, I feel like in a real pinch I could chop some small pieces of wood with it for a fire.

Of course a flint.

And a couple small flashlights with long battery life.

I am sure people have all kinds of things they take, but if you have to survive, a sharpened piece of metal and fire are the two things that kept the cavemen alive even haha.

 

[thebigt]

Im researching "prepping bags" and may put something together so In case we need to quickly go out on the run. Medical stuff, portable water filter, mylar blanket, survival tent, etc.....

Id rather have shyt I never need that doesnt break the bank than go looking for everything when I gotta jet.

I wish I lived in your block, I live in a very liberal community and its hit or miss when it come to liberals and guns. Liberals do have shyt, and more so this year than ever but guns still freak people out. The smart thing to do is get with the community and organize emergency protocols and stuff like that, but I just dont feel good with that where I live. My neighborhood is full of very kind people, its hard to bring up conversations about emergency disasters with any of them. Im just trying to be smart and realistic but people dont get it and rationalize from a area of comfort.

i am only guessing but if the shyt does hit the fan large cities like NYC will be most effected due to the large mass of people centered in such a small area...they are going to come pouring out like a hive of bees sprayed with insecticide and your neighborhood is going to have a giant target of honey on it. believe it or not but many where i live even have well water and septic tanks, and plenty have wood burning stoves. country folks are going to be much better prepared!!!

bought me a fairly expensive generator last year also-nothing as nice as what @dixonk has, but pretty nice!!!

 

[HIT4ME]

Oh, and for a really solid flashlught...check out Zebralight. Of all my probably 30 lights, if I had to risk my life with one of them, there are some close seconds, but the Zebra is my goto.

 

[Ricky10]

I'm seeing everywhere media blaming Trump for the capitol violence. All I recall is when Trump said protest peacefully. Serious question, where, when and what did Trump say everything he is blamed for regarding DC capitol events?

It all kind of comes down to a series of comments Trump made at the Save America March and then some tweets that followed just before things got heated. In summary, these people have a problem with the fact that Trump:

- Again discussed the stolen election and massive fraud

- Trump said “Together we are determined to defend and preserve government of the people, by the people and for the people,” adding that “we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.”

- "You'll never take back our country with weakness," he said. "You have to show strength and you have to be strong."

- He gave people false hope that Mike Pence had the power to reverse the certification of Biden

- Trump later tweeted that Pence “didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify."

So they are basically trying to say that these types of comments were intended to incite a lawless mob to infiltrate the white house. Meanwhile, Trump also promoted that it be a peaceful protest, and of course told people to go home once things escalated.

Basically, Trump wanted his supporters to not back down in the practicing of their First Amendment rights and nothing more. Any extrapolations and actions beyond that are not his responsibility IMO..