Donald Trump running for president
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ax1
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He is freaking crazy, so much a micromanager of people's lives, I tried warning people about him here in 2018 but nobody listened. He turned out even worse!
thebigt
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tucker carlson hits it on the head...'the election that narrowly saved america'
if democrats would have won the senate they would have:
packed the supreme court
added new states to gain senate control
added 20 million illegals to voting ranks
thus creating a permanent democrat majority, a one party state with complete control over the populace.
and damned democrats have the nerve to call trump a dictator-look what they had planned for this country--talk about facists!!!
if democrats would have won the senate they would have:
packed the supreme court
added new states to gain senate control
added 20 million illegals to voting ranks
thus creating a permanent democrat majority, a one party state with complete control over the populace.
and damned democrats have the nerve to call trump a dictator-look what they had planned for this country--talk about facists!!!
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puccah8808
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Oh look, CA lit up blue so fast.... cuz they didn’t even count my ballot. I dropped it off at the polls days before.
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jswain34
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Added new states? Jeez man. Have you slept? Ax1, please send this man some tin foil from your stash.
Woody
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You mean they found more ballots in Arizona that are Republican? I thought that only could happen for democrats???
Woody
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Neither Biden nor Harris stated they would pack the Court either. Nor can they.
HIT4ME
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Its not that they’re necessarily “missing something”, but more that there hasnt been enough time to collect sufficient amounts of reliable and quality data that recommendations can be based on. For instance, there have been studies showing Vitamin D deficient and zinc deficient individuals are more susceptible to developing severe infection. However, this observation could actually be a result of a phenomenon called reverse causality - the severe infection is somehow using up or lowering the vitamin D and/or zinc and therefore it is low when it is measured in those individuals. You have to tease out if its the chicken or the egg that’s coming first before you can tell the masses to start supplementing with a vitamin/mineral before proving it’ll actually help for what you’re recommending it for (HIT - dont start on the Vit D!!!)
I think theres something nutritionally or some cellular signal that naturally depletes with age but can be lower in some younger individuals (total theory, unfounded, just guessing) that is in play here. The wide range of symptom severity is truly baffling - 22 y/os have looked and felt like hell and 65 y/os have felt fine and ive seen it the other way around too.
There’s something going on that can help at least partially explain it. There has to be.
I think if we could establish a concrete answer for how long immunity lasts post-infection we could get more people comfortable with, or at least considering the possibility of, the idea. It’d suck to catch this thing once, ef more than that.
)Come on, you started it!
Only thing to add is, this very small study is a step in the right direction:
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HIT4ME
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Potentially valid argument - but if that's the case then why aren't their higher turnouts in MA, CA or TX?
MA is (maybe) a good example. Almost 3/4 of our voters are registered democrats - so literally only half of them have to show up to the polls for them to win the election. They can afford to be lazy. We still have a turnout that is similar to other areas of the country, which appears to be around 2/3 of the registered voters. In other words, wouldn't you be less likely to vote if you thought that your vote wasn't likely needed by your candidate? Whether or not you vote, your guy is going to win either way, so if you miss it you still get what you wanted and no big deal. If you don't vote and don't get what you wanted though, then you have nothing to complain about. I think some people think both ways on both sides - so you're not wrong; but it doesn't quite explain a rush of 180,000 votes in ONE district leading to a 21,000 vote victory for a state. I also know this seems far fetched; but it looks similar in NV and MI to be honest.
Yes, land doesn't vote - but to be targeting only the specific districts with populations that can produce hundreds of thousands of votes with surgical precision and no overflow into surrounding districts - coupled with voter turnouts that are unusually high?
Given that MA is pretty darned liberal, Dane County had 260,000+ votes for Biden and 78,000 votes for Trump (if my memory is correct) - or 76% of the county went democrat. It is too bad Dane doesn't collect party affiliation data; because that would be pretty telling. Either they are one of the most liberal areas of the country with one of the highest voter turnouts, or something is off.
Also, Dane County reached more than 50% of their 2016 voter turnout 2 weeks before election day - so lots and lots of mail in ballots going toward that vote. It also looks like 1.56M absentee ballots were requested in WI and a little over 1.1M were returned - strange, that's about 66%, there's that number again.
I'm not saying this is beyond any doubt....just that I think it is suspicious enough that it warrants some investigation.
The republicans aren't asking to change the rules. The thing is, you and I as individuals likely agree - the votes should be counted precisely. There should be no extra votes, and no lost votes.
They refused to deny it on multiple occasions though. Pretty telling, considering how many times Joe has said something and then completely said the opposite 2 days later. Why is refusing to deny he will pack the courts?
Harris changes views like underwear as well - just a few months ago Biden was a racist in her words...now...he's the path to unity and equality. But she still won't deny they will pack the courts. Even if she said she wouldn't, it's not like it would be the first outright lie she told...so why doesn't she even just lie about it?
The reason is, as you say, they are unsure if they will have the power behind them to do it. But if the wind blows the right way, they will seize the opportunity.
ax1
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Actually, it is land mass that matters, and thats why the electoral vote is put in place. A couple of states have shared electoral vote on top of this instead of having a winner take all system. It pro-representation of less condensed land mass.
Electoral vote system was put into place to counter the consolidation of corruption, resources and propaganda and at least tried to force politicians to not ignore the rural majority as much. It shows how the electoral vote is so important along with never allowing centralized government to expand powers as it will never understand, cater or care about the needs and culture of rural areas.
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ax1
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Ill just send the tin foil directly to Fox headquarters, LOL
Actually, I havent checked but I did hear PR was voting to become a state again but I dont think this has anything to do with Liberals.
HIT4ME
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I wasn't exactly saying either she is lying or denying. I am saying, why does she have such a hard time denying it, especially since we have established she is OK with lying. You raise a good point as well - since the president doesn't have the authority to begin with, why is it so hard to deny?
I don't know what they will do, and it probably is unlikely they can pack the court, so I am not worried too much about that....but what do I know?
ax1
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Ummm, and you believe that? I remember Groper specifically avoiding the question all together on multiple questions as well, saying its not what to focus right now. And of course, they cant but these days they all pretend to be little dictators but certainly they would need a liberal house and senate to pull that off.
ax1
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Its so unbalanced to their views and they are overall very young, I cant picture them waiting until they hit the grave in hopes it will change.
The bad news is the un-Supreme court is completely unbalanced to my pro-Constitutional views so Im getting the big whip no matter what, lol.
Woody
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ax1
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I meant believe what they are saying that they arent going to try to push that. Of course technically thats not in their hands.
On another note but relevent, and I dont think this would be the case here but there used to be a time where I believed only Congress can declare war, then the Executive changed the term to "kinetic actions" LMFAO and now they do it on their own.
thebigt
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washington dc and puerto rico. each would have 2 senators and house members.
you need to keep up.
ax1
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Its 52-48 pro-statehood in PR as is now but they are still counting.
Woody
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I hate to ruin a good Tucker Carlson conspiracy theory with math, but Democrats would need 49 senators before PR/DC statehood to take a majority with them.
thebigt
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damn, obviously you didn't read the article...that is exactly the point tucker was making!!!
ax1
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If you post links it will make it alot easier for people to check rather than google searching for the link.
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Woody
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From Fox News:
“The [Trump] campaign filed suit in Georgia Wednesday night to stop ballot counting. President Trump currently holds the lead 50 to 48.8 percent, by about 50,000 votes, with 97 percent of precincts reporting.”
ax1
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We have alot of work to do. Money was spent across too many people, they need to consolidate where the money goes so we can have a bigger impact. This isnt just specifically to the Presidential race but that was a problem for sure.
Also, Im finding out there was a big divide in the L party between Jo Jorgensen supporters and Hornberger who is a much more hardcore Libertarian. I actually supported Judge Grey and Larry Sharpe(VP) in the primaries, but it is what it is. If Larry Sharpe gets backing for 2024 and he decides to run he is the most charismatic person to lead the charge. He didnt directly run this year because his resources were drained when he ran for governor just 2 years ago.
Here is an introduction to Larry Sharpe, you may have seen this already but its usually the first one I pick to introduce him.
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ax1
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Im already focusing and regrouping for 2024, Larry lays out the plan and how to get there. Addresses the problems with this years run along with other issues so we can not waste time and get back on track.
This is a long video, only for those who are sincerely looking to progress the L party.
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This is a long video, only for those who are sincerely looking to progress the L party.
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Jiigzz
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Trumps known for a long time that a large portion of mail in votes would be democratic. Hes been trying for months to undermine the mail in vote knowing that, in this moment, it could be the difference between getting reelected or not.
It genuinely boggles my mind how anti you guys are at having a fair and represented vote count, regardless of whether Trump is reelected or not.
What the world is witnessing is a battle between proper democratic process and an attempt to discount millions of votes simply because you dislike the other party/ candidate.
Talk about throwing your toys out the cot because things are tighter than you would have liked.
It genuinely boggles my mind how anti you guys are at having a fair and represented vote count, regardless of whether Trump is reelected or not.
What the world is witnessing is a battle between proper democratic process and an attempt to discount millions of votes simply because you dislike the other party/ candidate.
Talk about throwing your toys out the cot because things are tighter than you would have liked.
dixonk
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What we are witnessing is blatant cheating and fraud conducted within what is supposed to be the most advanced country on earth.
ax1
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And since when did using the post office become politically biased? Who made that up?
So liberals are lazy?
Jiigzz
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Biden supporters were the ones who decided going to large rally's wasn't the best idea in a pandemic.
Jiigzz
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Obviously the mantra "all lives matter" you guys get behind stops when those lives voted by mail for a candidate you don't support.
What the world is watching is the very cornerstone of democracy being threatened by people who can't handle competition.
Jiigzz
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That's what the lawsuit claims. Are you telling me that every lawsuit filed should be taken at face value or are you simply showing what the lawsuit alleges?
dixonk
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No it’s when Trump is winning and they decide to close the count, then in the morning open the count and magically all the votes are for the child molester. Or when a news agency declares a winner for a state that didn’t even have 11% of the vote in yet.
Jiigzz
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They still had mail in votes to count, which were posted in record numbers. Not only that, but they were cast legally.
Trump tried to undermine the post office months prior by stopping the funding needed for it to be effective. Because of this they posted a warning on August 14 that:
“Postal Service warns 46 states their voters could be disenfranchised by delayed mail-in ballots”
Knowing that a large number of people would vote by mail, the Supreme Court ruled on it:
"In North Carolina, ballots can arrive up to nine days after Election Day; in Pennsylvania, ballots can arrive up to three days late -- for now; and in Wisconsin, the court said ballots must be in by election night"
What is happening to states complying with a Supreme Court decision that allows them to continue to count eligible votes that come in during the court ruled upon deadlines.