And to onlookers. If you are not on TRT, invest in a better PCT than your cycle. If you have a great cycle, then lose your gains, and then lose beyond that, the money you spent to "be on" just hurt you and set you back.
Well saidAnd to onlookers. If you are not on TRT, invest in a better PCT than your cycle. If you have a great cycle, then lose your gains, and then lose beyond that, the money you spent to "be on" just hurt you and set you back.
How do I get in on this deal!?So the guys that I purchased the transdermal SD from reached out to me thanks to @TheVenom and decided to take care of me. I am being sent a peptide combo product called Viking 1, which has 20mg GHRP2, 15MG sermorelin, and 6mg GHRP6. The GHRP2 promotes the large GH pulse, GHRP6 promotes strong hunger signalling, and the sermorelin is a GHRH, which when combined with a GHRP multiplies the amplified growth hormone pulse. I will be running it and logging in PCT which is about 5 weeks out. To retain gains, you will want something more than a SERM to restart your test production. You will want a pro Anabolic environment, and having high GH and IGF levels in PCT promotes just that.
i truly believe epi/androsterone compliment each other, great combo, imo.Day 3 (Ultra Hard; Yesterday)
A couple things were unmistakable yesterday, and I'm certain it is the Ultra Hard. Well being, including some aggression was heightened yesterday. Libido, and spontaneous erections have a marked improvement. Transdermal epiandro and androsterone really kicks in ASAP. Yesterday was a rest day, and I'm presently doing push day.
You are definitely correct; that’s exactly how I would describe them. How is blood pressure?Day 3 (Ultra Hard; Yesterday)
A couple things were unmistakable yesterday, and I'm certain it is the Ultra Hard. Well being, including some aggression was heightened yesterday. Libido, and spontaneous erections have a marked improvement. Transdermal epiandro and androsterone really kicks in ASAP. Yesterday was a rest day, and I'm presently doing push day.
Tested just now.You are definitely correct; that’s exactly how I would describe them. How is blood pressure?
DMZ, you should be noticing the increases in performance by now (which will continue).
There is simply no way that i can maintain what i got on cycle. Maybe a tiny bit. But there is simply no way, not a chance in hell.And to onlookers. If you are not on TRT, invest in a better PCT than your cycle. If you have a great cycle, then lose your gains, and then lose beyond that, the money you spent to "be on" just hurt you and set you back.
For those going beyond genetic potential, it is borrowed. For those that have not gone to or beyond genetic potential, it is possible to keep lean mass.There is simply no way that i can maintain what i got on cycle. Maybe a tiny bit. But there is simply no way, not a chance in hell.
How the hell am i aboe to maintain what i got when my T levels were 1500 ng/dl and now they are 330 ng/dl?
Sorry no, i can prolong the time it takes for those gains to disappear but they are disappearing anyway.
And i am fine with that. Steroid gains are borrowed gains.
I mean i could maintain the majority if i kept using peptide,s maybe added in sth like ostarine etc but then what is the meaning of an off period?
Gotta give the body the time to recuperate and if body operates best at a level with less lean mass then so be it.
I can always regain in the next cycle, hence i time my cycles when i want to perform and look my best.
Agreed, but that genetic potential is also determined by current natty t levels.For those going beyond genetic potential, it is borrowed. For those that have not gone to or beyond genetic potential, it is possible to keep lean mass.
Hence where high IGF, GH, and improved nitrogen retention comes in, when test is on the lower end. It should compensate to retain gains, for those below genetic potential. I'm being hopefulAgreed, but that genetic potential is also determined by current natty t levels.
For example i could maintain 225 lean with full 6 pack at 18, yes, read that right, i was most developed at 18 naturally, started training at 15, and in my early 20s i couldnt hit over 215 lean anymore, it just wasnt happening, and pumps were a mere shadow of what they were when i was 18, until i started cycling peds.
Recovery in my early 20s was way down compared to my teens.
And t levels are going to decrease with age anyway plus with cycling for sure they are goin down.
So do you think dropping one of the hcg dosing could help with any excess estrogen? Or would that be counter productive?Post dosing my nipples are getting less tender, and it really reveals that it is providing support against the negative estrogenic sides.
At this point the excess estrogen isn't causing too much of an issue right now. Especially with the Ultra Hard. Actually good to have a decent amount of estrogen while on a cycle, as long as you aren't growing female breast tissue, as it can lubricate joints, strengthen bones, and has its own anabolic qualities.So do you think dropping one of the hcg dosing could help with any excess estrogen? Or would that be counter productive?
Also protects the heart, improves hdlAt this point the excess estrogen isn't causing too much of an issue right now. Especially with the Ultra Hard. Actually good to have a decent amount of estrogen while on a cycle, as long as you aren't growing female breast tissue, as it can lubricate joints, strengthen bones, and has its own anabolic qualities.
Just want to point out that was not advice I’m always learning for you guys and reading study’s. Have seen in some study’s that the estrogen can really spike with hcg but they were also using very high doses.At this point the excess estrogen isn't causing too much of an issue right now. Especially with the Ultra Hard. Actually good to have a decent amount of estrogen while on a cycle, as long as you aren't growing female breast tissue, as it can lubricate joints, strengthen bones, and has its own anabolic qualities.
No worry's, didn't take what you said in any negative wayJust want to point out that was not advice I’m always learning for you guys and reading study’s. Have seen in some study’s that the estrogen can really spike with hcg but they were also using very high doses.
It should help improve HDL, even on cycle.Speaking of HDL does cardarine help enough to keep HDL of bottoming out on strong orals? Or just better recovery after thanks
Yes, begin aromasin now, you can go low, and even it during the beginning of running. Good to start your PCT with low estrogen.Dont want to start a new thread for such a small question and since we talked about pct over here i wouod lioe to hear your opinion, also @Jinsun @Alchemist11 can chime in since as far as i am aware those are the last fighters that still pct, beside you and me.
Last wednesday was my last 60mg injection of test for this cycle, today was last hcg shot and around sunday i should be starting clomid.
now i know clomid competes with estrogen for hypothalamus receptors.
Right now i am estrogen dominant as fuk can 100% feel it, didnt take any ai throughout the cycle as i didnt need one and gains were great.
Should i take some asin just before starting clomid to make the job for the serm easier and recovery easier or is that not necessary at all and i should only take some asin after coming off from clomid which i usually do to prevent rebound shut down?
I would honestly like to take as little ai as possible, i feel how my pumps and fullness are way better when i steer the fuk away from aromasin.
my pumps are still better than when off and i feel like i am hanging by the estrogen thread as far as anabolism goes.
Thanks man deleted the post as i didnt want to derail the thread when thinking again, but thansk.Yes, begin aromasin now, you can go low, and even it during the beginning of running. Good to start your PCT with low estrogen.
Right, but instead we become a medicine cabinet xDThanks man deleted the post as i didnt want to derail the thread when thinking again, but thansk.
yeah i hate aromasin but i felt like it could be beneficial to do this.
Effin hate pct, such an unhealthy period. Ai's, serms... if only i could just take some hcg and be done with it.
Man horrible, i already know i aint taking this pos clomid for more than 2 weeks. Brr i hate seeing colorful spots and increasing triglycerides scare the f out of me.Right, but instead we become a medicine cabinet xD
Hey, I believe you can get higher that the 300s. I tested myself a year ago, was at the lower 400s, and tested myself this year and was in the mid 700s.Man horrible, i already know i aint taking this pos clomid for more than 2 weeks. Brr i hate seeing colorful spots and increasing triglycerides scare the f out of me.
I honestly rather underrecover a bit and let myself take longer ot get up to those almighty 330 ng/dl of total test than give my self a thrombosis or permanent eye damage.
i was at 370 before i even touched gear and it was 330 this spring after having done the test cycle last year, so at least i know i didnt fuk up too much.Hey, I believe you can get higher that the 300s. I tested myself a year ago, was at the lower 400s, and tested myself this year and was in the mid 700s.
Definitely something going on in the background causing low test.i was at 370 before i even touched gear and it was 330 this spring after having done the test cycle last year, so at least i know i didnt fuk up too much.
I honestly dunno, i believe its genetic. I have some friends who are almost completely hairless in their early 20s, my best mate doesnt have any facial hair at all. I always ate very clean and healthy, exercised, slept fairly well etcDefinitely something going on in the background causing low test.
Brought to me by @HydeYes, but the size & fullness brought to you by DMZ
Lol I ain’t taking any credit. I have just used Epiandro/Andro cream and used DMZ, and I know which one is bringing all the size! The transdermal is more to add balance and aesthetics. It’s icing on the anabolic cakeBrought to me by @Hyde
I agree. The Ultra Hard is not very Anabolic. The DMZ is highly Anabolic. Really excited to see if I can get to 190 or higher by the end get everything.Lol I ain’t taking any credit. I have just used Epiandro/Andro cream and used DMZ, and I know which one is bringing all the size! The transdermal is more to add balance and aesthetics. It’s icing on the anabolic cake
Do you reckon this could help a person who usually suffers from anorgasmia and inability to be aroused? How would it compare to standard aas like test, tren, masteron becaude none of those have effect on my libidoDay 3 (Ultra Hard; Yesterday)
A couple things were unmistakable yesterday, and I'm certain it is the Ultra Hard. Well being, including some aggression was heightened yesterday. Libido, and spontaneous erections have a marked improvement. Transdermal epiandro and androsterone really kicks in ASAP. Yesterday was a rest day, and I'm presently doing push day.
Test and Tren, those two can give some great libido, if they are not estrogen and prolactin sensitive. If they are, the high estrogen and prolactin can really tank libido and erections. I would say if your e2 and prolactin are in check, the Ultra Hard will only provide pro libido and erection benefits because the two prohormones convert to DHT, which is the primary pro libido hormone.Do you reckon this could help a person who usually suffers from anorgasmia and inability to be aroused? How would it compare to standard aas like test, tren, masteron becaude none of those have effect on my libido
I had a chance of hooking up with this girl this summer and she was amazing but i was afraid she would want sex immediately and then i would of course let her down and logically i would lose any chance of further hook ups with her, as i heard from another person how she was talking how hot i am (lol, i dont consider myself hot so dont think i am bragging haha just saying what someone else said)
But then again... it must be hell on the hair! And i am already on ketoconazole shampoo basically eod.
I cant train in the morning. I mean, i am at least 15% weaker on all major lifts.I did pull day today.
Weather has been cloudy, looking like it wants to rain all day, and I believe it really is effecting me. I have been real tired all day. Even with some pre workout, was tired in the gym this morning. Did not have the energy to attempt any heavy pulls, so I did a lot of volume.
looking way freakierUpdated photos
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You are weaker in the morning. They don’t know why exactly, but science has proven this. Whatever you can do training very early, after sleep, you will be a tad stronger late afternoon, all other conditions being optimal & equal. The thought is that likely the nervous system gets more efficient after it has time to warm up, so to speak.I cant train in the morning. I mean, i am at least 15% weaker on all major lifts.
Around noon already i am good to go. A large cup of green tea gets me going.
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