vAliant Anabolic Androgenic Archive: TD Superdrol and DMZ

[WeakerNU]

So do you guys think that the hcg will keep some test production going? Or just make pct very easy?

 

[WeakerNU]

So do you guys think that the hcg will keep some test production going? Or just make pct very easy?

 

[Hyde]

So do you guys think that the hcg will keep some test production going? Or just make pct very easy?

Technically, both, but you are using it so your PCT is easier/faster (READ: better potential for new muscle retention when you come off) AND so you don’t experience as big of a hit to your natural levels over time as you cycle.

If your nuts take 26 weeks off from working in a year vs keeping them producing some with HCG when on, they will likely work better for you when off cycle for longer. Not saying it will keep you from eventually needing TRT, but it could help delay it.

 

[ValiantThor08]

Today was push day in the gym. A guy in there asked if I was on testosterone.

Incline DB Press
4 warm up sets
85x7x7x7x7

So definite increase in chest strength.

6 sets of shoulder press, 3 of them being 50s for 10 reps each, supersetting with low weight DB lateral raises.

5 sets of dips.

 

[manifesto]

Not to derail your thread, but I feel like someone in here could answer this...

I've been on TRT for a while with no HCG. I don't care about ball size, or fertility. My interest in HCG is the sexual benefits I've heard about...ive heard of guys using it prior to a weekend away with the wife for better erections and stuff....of course, alongside cialis ect...

Anyone in here ever use it like this?

 

[ValiantThor08]

Not to derail your thread, but I feel like someone in here could answer this...

I've been on TRT for a while with no HCG. I don't care about ball size, or fertility. My interest in HCG is the sexual benefits I've heard about...ive heard of guys using it prior to a weekend away with the wife for better erections and stuff....of course, alongside cialis ect...

Anyone in here ever use it like this?

I could see that being the case. Heard it may increase pregnalone and DHEA. MTII is also good.

 

[manifesto]

I could see that being the case. Heard it may increase pregnalone and DHEA. MTII is also good.

I wonder hiw much to use for this, and how long before sexual activity

 

[BBiceps]

I wonder hiw much to use for this, and how long before sexual activity

I only used HCG once for 4 weeks so I can’t really comment but can promise you won’t get the effect you’re hoping for.

 

[manifesto]

I just feel like with the testicle size back up, it will improve erections

 

[WeakerNU]

I may have missed it how much hcg are you dosing?

 

[manifesto]

 

[JoePaul39]

Lol, what you tell the bro in the gym that ask if your on test?

 

[ValiantThor08]

Lol, what you tell the bro in the gym that ask if your on test?

Told him the truth. I'm not on test lol.

 

[ValiantThor08]

@Hyde

You think astragalus extract would be better than just the root for kidneys?

 

[ValiantThor08]

Ended up picking up NAC, astragulus root, and astragulus extract.

 

[ValiantThor08]

BP slightly elevated. Will be microdosing tadalafil.

 

[Hyde]

@Hyde

You think astragalus extract would be better than just the root for kidneys?

I don’t know.

Morphogen Nutrition uses 4g of powdered astragalus root in Nephrogen, so I would ASSUME root is fine. That’s not a research-backed answer of course.

 

[solidsnake]

Where did you get the td sd from bro?

 

[ValiantThor08]

An update.

Today has been rest day.

Going to have a fantastic pull day tomorrow.

As the TD SD is about to run out, I was one of three selected to log Iconic Formulations Ultra Hard. There is 4 weeks of Epi Andro and Androsterone transdermal in Ultra Hard, and at great doses. DMZ is very anabolic, and not much in terms of androgenic, while Ultra Hard has two DHT prohormones, so my cycle will now be pro anabolic and pro androgenic, and the Ultra Hard should really enhance the whole experience, improve strength, hardness, libido, energy, aggression. When I get it, I will include it in the log here, and start a specific log for the Ultra Hard.

Thanks @delsolrob

 

[JoePaul39]

You doing DMZ too?

 

[ValiantThor08]

You doing DMZ too?

Yes. Started the DMZ Saturday. Running for 6 weeks. The SD was supposed to last at least 4 weeks, but looks like the bottle is running out within 2 weeks. Glad I got the DMZ.

 

[TheVenom]

For transparency, I'll announce that as of yesterday , I am affiliated with your source of the SD. I reached out to them to try to figure out what was going on, we got to talking, long-story-short; I'm now in a position to make things right with you @ValiantThor08.

Some while ago, I made it clear on the boards that I would only affiliate with brands that I have used and would recommend to my good friends. I've seen negative feedback about the supplier, but can honestly say that I haven't had a single negative experience with then. I just wanted to clarify, because you guys have been good to me and deserve transparency.

But, enough about that before I go too far and get banned for TOS violations . I won't post anything related to them on the forums going forward, nor will I make any recommendations for them on AM out of respect. Please, if you have a problem with anything related to them, literally just send me your email addy. No other communication regarding them please.

Thor, please shoot me yours.

 

[WiiTard]

So how’s the lethargy with the TD SD been? I live SD, but I always get hammered pretty hard with lethargy by the 2nd week.

 

[ValiantThor08]

So how’s the lethargy with the TD SD been? I live SD, but I always get hammered pretty hard with lethargy by the 2nd week.

Have not experienced lethargy. Odd experience this far with the TD.

 

[CroLifter]

I am now beginning to see physical changes. And I'm also about to run out. Transdermal SD is not the way to go IMO. Unless you want to but multiple bottles because you just love Transdermals.

Sorry to say this, but i told you TD wont work well.

 

[ValiantThor08]

Today was day 4 of the DMZ, 40mg.

Fantastic pump and muscle hardness in the gym today. Marked difference in the gym from today, compared to the last 11ish.

It was pull day, and it was good. Today actually felt like I'm on AAS.

 

[ValiantThor08]

Latest Body Composition

 

[Hyde]

Says you’re up 10lbs and 9lbs is reading as skeletal muscle!

 

[ValiantThor08]

This is where I was two weeks ago. Still have over 5 weeks left of DMZ.

 

[ValiantThor08]

More roast and potatoes. I love meat and taters.

 

[Iwilleattuna]

This log has been a success. 13 pounds gains already

 

[Iwilleattuna]

Good thing you’re not drinking vernor’s . Shwepps>vernors change my mind

 

[ValiantThor08]

Good thing you’re not drinking vernor’s . Shwepps>vernors change my mind

Wow. For your opinion, I shall now cancel you.

 

[JoePaul39]

Says you’re up 10lbs and 9lbs is reading as skeletal muscle!

Looks like that Superdrol did the trick. Just don’t understand how you gain nine pounds of muscle in just a few weeks with lifts not going up much? Puzzling.

 

[ValiantThor08]

Looks like that Superdrol did the trick. Just don’t understand how you gain nine pounds of muscle in just a few weeks with lifts not going up much? Puzzling.

Also on MK and CJC DAC. And 5th day DMZ. I don't think it was the SD, and I doubt I gained 9lbs of muscle, even with muscle memory. Happy with weight gain though.

 

[ValiantThor08]

Also, if anyone cares. I thought it was interesting. My friend has been on keto for at least few years. I saw a thread saying keto diets lower IGF. My friends IGF was 176. That's high.

 

[TheVenom]

Is he on orals?

 

[ValiantThor08]

Is he on orals?

No, no orals. Only on basic keto supplements. His IGF is higher than mine while I'm on MK.

 

[ValiantThor08]

For liver, kidneys, and general health.

 

[ValiantThor08]

Will start this on Saturday, logging it here, and throwing up a dedicated log for Ultra Hard.

 

[ValiantThor08]

For Turkish coffee fans.

 

[Hyde]

Turks got it right with the joe. Great stuff when you get the real deal.

 

[Iwilleattuna]

For Turkish coffee fans.View attachment 197253

@Hyde @ValiantThor08 ive tried Turkish coffee once and it’s amazing , almost taste sweet. Stacked that with authentic Turkish delight. Was amazing

 

[ValiantThor08]

@Hyde @ValiantThor08 ive tried Turkish coffee once and it’s amazing , almost taste sweet. Stacked that with authentic Turkish delight. Was amazing

Come on down, and I'll make you some.

 

[TheVenom]

I don't have the patience in the morning, nor the coordination, to do much more than press "brew" on my Keurig...

 

[ValiantThor08]

Push Day

Flat DB press
4 warm up sets
95x8x8x8x8

Cable flies supersetted with rope push down

DB Pushovers supersetted with DB Skull Crushers

Great pumps, great muscle density, and great vascularity. Can't wait to see what the addition of Ultra Hard can do.

 

[ValiantThor08]

The TD SD is officially completed. If you want to test it out yourself, get at least 2 bottles. Starting tomorrow, I will have 5 weeks of DMZ remaining, and will be starting the Ultra Hard, and will try to see if that will last the 5 weeks.

 

[ValiantThor08]

Day 1 -Iconic Formulations Ultra Hard
4 Pumps applied through chest and shoulders.
Mild alcohol smell, vert mild and short lived. Directions are correct, and can take up to 4 minutes to fully dry; that is fine though, you get a good amount of material. Dosing the two ingredients in Ultra Hard via transdermal administration is superior to oral. Today is a rest day. Probably placebo, but maybe not, but I may be discerning an improved well being about an hour post dosing. It could be possible as it is increasing the androgenic ratio in my body.

Excited for pull day tomorrow, and then my next body scan Wednesday.

 

[ValiantThor08]

Day 2 (Ultra Hard)

Applied to shoulders and chest.
Thing's I am noticing that previously was not.
Definitely experiencing improved libido, and without being crude, my male biology is more spontaneous than prior to using Ultra Hard, no pun intended. I feel a little bit more confident. So far, I believe I am experiencing a rise in my bodies androgenic ratio. I do also note a decrease in excess estrogenic side effects; nipple area less tender.

Pull day

5 sets, 9 reps of bent over rows, 185lbs
4 sets 6 to 7 reps wide grip pull downs, 180lbs
Seated machine curls supersetted with straight bar lat pushdowns.
I'm thinking judging by today's workout, next week's workouts are going to be platue breakers. Pumps are great, and thee DMZ should really be shining this week and on forward.

 

[ValiantThor08]

So the guys that I purchased the transdermal SD from reached out to me thanks to @TheVenom and decided to take care of me. I am being sent a peptide combo product called Viking 1, which has 20mg GHRP2, 15MG sermorelin, and 6mg GHRP6. The GHRP2 promotes the large GH pulse, GHRP6 promotes strong hunger signalling, and the sermorelin is a GHRH, which when combined with a GHRP multiplies the amplified growth hormone pulse. I will be running it and logging in PCT which is about 5 weeks out. To retain gains, you will want something more than a SERM to restart your test production. You will want a pro Anabolic environment, and having high GH and IGF levels in PCT promotes just that.