Anyone worried if Corona virus keeps spreading the gyms will shut down?

xR1pp3Rx said:
So after you play the WHO card all along now you pretend you could care less about the WHO...

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oh look its from a total liberal rag too.. the NYPOST.

quit.. just quit.

BTW… and you probably wouldn't know this.. But FL did the very same thing as Sweden and low and behold.. they have the lowest death rate in the country.

Again .. just stop with the fear mongering.
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This statement about FL is misguided and not true. FL has one of the lowest infection rates in the country as well - and about a 4.4% death rate so far. But having a low death rate isn't an indication that staying open works. Everyone stayed open when the death rates were low. Just like Sweden now, it isn't until the body count rises that they are forced to see reality.

Plenty of other places, like Minessota with a less than 4% death rate, have lower death rates as well.
 
Ironically, Florida has a huge increase in pneumonia deaths this year as opposed to last year... strange...
 
they estimate 89% of their deaths are seniors with other complications. the problem I am having is finding any new relative stats, all the stuff I am seeing is from april.. and I know that a lot has changed since.
 
justhere4comm said:
The responsibility lies with the President. Nobody else.
He always has other people take the fall for him. Even Barr ordered the tear gas and rubber bullets so he could take a photo op with the Bible. But it was his order in reality. Of course Barr will bear that cross... along with other things he's done for the President.
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Why are you mad that President Trump is fighting white supremacists with tear gas and rubber bullets? You are quite the contradiction.
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mase1 said:
All presidents can be second guessed but Trump has done a good job considering what he has faced. First 3 years he was excellent. Again I will vote for the best candidate but clearly Biden is not an option for anyone.
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What has Trump done that’s been good?
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
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feel free to go line by line and explain why you don't agree with these. I will wait...
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We will have vastly different opinions on the supreme court. A Supreme Court stacked one way, regardless of which way, is dangerous to the people. Supreme Court justices should not be partisan.

I’m on mobile - but that list is misleading. The tax bill fucked professionals so I don’t consider it a win.
The five year lobbying ban is solely for executive branch employees. There isn’t a lobbyist ban like the list implies. Still, it’s a start, but Citizens United is a bigger issue than lobbyists.
Fixing the VA? Come on, thats the most vague accomplishment I’ve ever heard.
Unemployment was dropping and the stock market was rising through the last years of Obama’s term. It continued under Trump, but you cannot give sole credit to Trump or consider it a Trump accomplishment. We’ve been in a bull market for like 10 years. Trump’s been president for 3.5.
 
So, I get that some of the stuff on the list above is probably debatable as "good" based on your views, but that was posted as a response to:
Woody said:
What has Trump done that’s been good?
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So, let me know....

-Consumer confidence at 17 year high
-Women In Entrepreneurship Act
-Promoting buying and hiring American
-Reducing ILLEGAL immigration
-Sanctioning Iran over their missile program
-Renegotiating NAFTA
-Creating a task force to reduce crime
-The commission on opioid addiction
-Combating human trafficking
-Reducing White house payroll
-Donating his Presidential salary
-A trade deal with China
-Designating North Korea as a terrorist state
-Taking away ISIS territory

How is any of that not good? Or is there some way to just say, "He is responsible" when things go bad, "But everyone else is responsible" when something good happens?

And I'm not even including things like the Border Wall - which I believe are good but understand a lot of people don't think the government is responsible for defending its borders.
 
Just a cartoon going on in my head:

Statement: The economy is great under Trump!
Democrats: Trump always takes credit. That's Obama's fault.

Statement: The pandemic response was horrible under Trump!
Republicans: What did anyone else do?
Democrats: Trump always passes the responsibility onto someone else!
 
Supreme Court justices politically biased?? The worst example of this was RBG who made direct personal statements against Trump. He could easily demand her recusal from every decision affecting him moving forward. LOL

Putting in justices who rule according to the Constitution as written is one of the best things Trump could have done.

Getting us out of the stupid Paris Accord was even better!
 
BamBam54 said:
Supreme Court justices politically biased?? The worst example of this was RBG who made direct personal statements against Trump. He could easily demand her recusal from every decision affecting him moving forward. LOL

Putting in justices who rule according to the Constitution as written is one of the best things Trump could have done.

Getting us out of the stupid Paris Accord was even better!
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Both sides rule according to the constitution as written. They just have different interpretations of the constitution. As an attorney that thinks both Republicans and Democrats are morons, I’m going to have a drastically different few on this than most people here on this subject
 
HIT4ME said:
So, I get that some of the stuff on the list above is probably debatable as "good" based on your views, but that was posted as a response to:


So, let me know....

-Consumer confidence at 17 year high
-Women In Entrepreneurship Act
-Promoting buying and hiring American
-Reducing ILLEGAL immigration
-Sanctioning Iran over their missile program
-Renegotiating NAFTA
-Creating a task force to reduce crime
-The commission on opioid addiction
-Combating human trafficking
-Reducing White house payroll
-Donating his Presidential salary
-A trade deal with China
-Designating North Korea as a terrorist state
-Taking away ISIS territory

How is any of that not good? Or is there some way to just say, "He is responsible" when things go bad, "But everyone else is responsible" when something good happens?

And I'm not even including things like the Border Wall - which I believe are good but understand a lot of people don't think the government is responsible for defending its borders.
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Obviously not going to comment on all:

Donating his salary is a facade. He makes exponentially more golfing at his own resorts than his presidential salary. While I have no issue with a president taking a mental health day - especially considering every president ages about 75 years in the 8 year term - spending taxpayer money at a resort that you profit from is a textbook conflict of interest.

Like it or not, America NEEDS illegal immigration. A huge part of our economy requires the cheap labor. It’s a necessary evil. I don’t believe all, or even most, illegal immigrants want to rape, pillage, and plunder. There are flaws in the immigration system, sure, but there are also massive barriers that need to be reformed, too. This is true of most government programs (I understand immigration isn’t a government program, but couldn’t think of the right word). The focus needs to be on getting rid of those who are committing crimes - and not petty crimes - and keeping them out.

I don’t like the federal government making a task force to “reduce crime”. I don’t think that’s the federal governments place. I think the FBI is constitutionally tenuous as is.

As far as bringing jobs back, I like the concept and believe on average, American goods are better, stronger, and more reliable than their Chinese counterparts. Now I may have a strange view, but I think we should spend less time focusing on bringing jobs “back” to America and more time focusing on how to keep the jobs we currently have and create new ones in the future. There are something like 4,000,000 truck drivers in the US. Autonomous vehicles will put them out of work. Fast food (a topic for another day) is already being automated. Brick and mortar retail jobs employ something like 2-3M people. Online shopping will do away with a large portion of those jobs. Is bringing manufacturing jobs back to America at the cost of rising production costs a good thing when we don’t protect/future proof the current jobs American’s have? I don’t think bringing back typically unionized manufacturing jobs is best for the American economy going forward.

And to be fair, Obama got the blame from Fox News (which is just as bad as CNN but on the opposite spectrum) and conservatives no matter what he did. The dude wore a khaki suit and it was a huge ordeal. A khaki fucking suit.

I wasn’t a huge Obama fan. I don’t think he accomplished much. He shouldn’t have bailed out the banks. Obamacare has some great things - such as coverage for preexisting conditions and no spending caps. Privatizing healthcare was stupid, and though it was mainly a republican idea, Medicare for all isn’t the answer, either.

This is nothing against Trump, but historically, we get rid of one terrorist group and we immediately find another. **** isis and we can take all their land without me losing any sleep, but who’s going to be the next “terrorist” group for Halliburton to make gajillions on?

Consumer confidence was rising with Obama, but I have no issue saying it continued to rise with Trump. Same with stock market/unemployment. I do believe it takes a few years for a president’s policies to start to show, and he’s been in about 4.

Opioids addiction is bad and, this may be liberal of me, but it’s probably too big of an issue for state governments to take individually. I actually read a neat article that scientists have discovered several molecules that are attributed to chronic pain and believe they can make medicine that targets those molecules to prevent pain and get the public away from opioids. Of course, I don’t trust a pharmaceutical company to make a safe drug which is why I’d rather die than take a COVID vaccine if it’s released this year. Or next year. Or the following year. Maybe in 10 years.
 
Woody said:
Obviously not going to comment on all:

Donating his salary is a facade. He makes exponentially more golfing at his own resorts than his presidential salary. While I have no issue with a president taking a mental health day - especially considering every president ages about 75 years in the 8 year term - spending taxpayer money at a resort that you profit from is a textbook conflict of interest.

Like it or not, America NEEDS illegal immigration. A huge part of our economy requires the cheap labor. It’s a necessary evil. I don’t believe all, or even most, illegal immigrants want to rape, pillage, and plunder. There are flaws in the immigration system, sure, but there are also massive barriers that need to be reformed, too. This is true of most government programs (I understand immigration isn’t a government program, but couldn’t think of the right word). The focus needs to be on getting rid of those who are committing crimes - and not petty crimes - and keeping them out.

I don’t like the federal government making a task force to “reduce crime”. I don’t think that’s the federal governments place. I think the FBI is constitutionally tenuous as is.

As far as bringing jobs back, I like the concept and believe on average, American goods are better, stronger, and more reliable than their Chinese counterparts. Now I may have a strange view, but I think we should spend less time focusing on bringing jobs “back” to America and more time focusing on how to keep the jobs we currently have and create new ones in the future. There are something like 4,000,000 truck drivers in the US. Autonomous vehicles will put them out of work. Fast food (a topic for another day) is already being automated. Brick and mortar retail jobs employ something like 2-3M people. Online shopping will do away with a large portion of those jobs. Is bringing manufacturing jobs back to America at the cost of rising production costs a good thing when we don’t protect/future proof the current jobs American’s have? I don’t think bringing back typically unionized manufacturing jobs is best for the American economy going forward.

And to be fair, Obama got the blame from Fox News (which is just as bad as CNN but on the opposite spectrum) and conservatives no matter what he did. The dude wore a khaki suit and it was a huge ordeal. A khaki fucking suit.

I wasn’t a huge Obama fan. I don’t think he accomplished much. He shouldn’t have bailed out the banks. Obamacare has some great things - such as coverage for preexisting conditions and no spending caps. Privatizing healthcare was stupid, and though it was mainly a republican idea, Medicare for all isn’t the answer, either.

This is nothing against Trump, but historically, we get rid of one terrorist group and we immediately find another. **** isis and we can take all their land without me losing any sleep, but who’s going to be the next “terrorist” group for Halliburton to make gajillions on?

Consumer confidence was rising with Obama, but I have no issue saying it continued to rise with Trump. Same with stock market/unemployment. I do believe it takes a few years for a president’s policies to start to show, and he’s been in about 4.

Opioids addiction is bad and, this may be liberal of me, but it’s probably too big of an issue for state governments to take individually. I actually read a neat article that scientists have discovered several molecules that are attributed to chronic pain and believe they can make medicine that targets those molecules to prevent pain and get the public away from opioids. Of course, I don’t trust a pharmaceutical company to make a safe drug which is why I’d rather die than take a COVID vaccine if it’s released this year. Or next year. Or the following year. Maybe in 10 years.
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Some good points, not that I agree with all of them, but some good thoughts and well said. I agree that both sides bash - I feel like the impeachment trial was a highlight of this - what the republicans thought was OK for Clinton wasn't OK for Trump and what the Dems thought wasn't OK for Clinton was OK for Trump. The arguments all remained the same, but everyone switched sides.

I will disagree about illegal immigration. We don't need it. Now if you want to say we need to reform immigration policies and allow for more efficient LEGAL immigration, with more control - I would discuss that. But of course, illegal immigrants, by definition, are criminals and we don't need them. And migrating across boarders illegally is not a petty crime and would result in potentially lethal force being used against you in certain countries.

Also, you can say donating his salary is a facade, and sure - he is making money still. He'll be a'ight. But he still doesn't have to do it. And that is kind of the point, when he does something good, it isn't good because it isn't good enough - and that's just not a reasonable approach.

But you're right - every president has faced this to some degree. George Washington himself wouldn't leave the White House during his second term...because he couldn't stand all of the criticism.

The point is, whether you want to say it wasn't good enough, or was a facade, or make an argument that it wasn't what you want - the guy has accomplished a few things and it isn't like he's not doing anything at all.
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
So after you play the WHO card all along now you pretend you could care less about the WHO...

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oh look its from a total liberal rag too.. the NYPOST.

quit.. just quit.

BTW… and you probably wouldn't know this.. But FL did the very same thing as Sweden and low and behold.. they have the lowest death rate in the country.

Again .. just stop with the fear mongering.
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Was all that directed at me? Not sure what fear mongering or how I ever played the WHO card...
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HIT4ME said:
Some good points, not that I agree with all of them, but some good thoughts and well said. I agree that both sides bash - I feel like the impeachment trial was a highlight of this - what the republicans thought was OK for Clinton wasn't OK for Trump and what the Dems thought wasn't OK for Clinton was OK for Trump. The arguments all remained the same, but everyone switched sides.

I will disagree about illegal immigration. We don't need it. Now if you want to say we need to reform immigration policies and allow for more efficient LEGAL immigration, with more control - I would discuss that. But of course, illegal immigrants, by definition, are criminals and we don't need them. And migrating across boarders illegally is not a petty crime and would result in potentially lethal force being used against you in certain countries.

Also, you can say donating his salary is a facade, and sure - he is making money still. He'll be a'ight. But he still doesn't have to do it. And that is kind of the point, when he does something good, it isn't good because it isn't good enough - and that's just not a reasonable approach.

But you're right - every president has faced this to some degree. George Washington himself wouldn't leave the White House during his second term...because he couldn't stand all of the criticism.

The point is, whether you want to say it wasn't good enough, or was a facade, or make an argument that it wasn't what you want - the guy has accomplished a few things and it isn't like he's not doing anything at all.
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We don’t have to agree on everything, but the fact you’re willing to listen and try and see a different perspective is something both sides severely lack. So thank you, I appreciate and respect that.
 
Woody said:
We don’t have to agree on everything, but the fact you’re willing to listen and try and see a different perspective is something both sides severely lack. So thank you, I appreciate and respect that.
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Well, you had a reasonable, well laid out approach...thank you as well. Like you said, we don't have to agree. It's good to have debate and I've learned a lot on here from people who debate on this board. Actually, some of the most hard fought debates have turned out to teach me the most and some of the people on here who I disagree with the most are also people I respect the most. Like you said, sometimes you have to be willing to listen, and be reasonable. But sometimes, we all lose it! I'm no exception, that's for sure.
 
justhere4comm said:
The responsibility lies with the President. Nobody else.
He always has other people take the fall for him. Even Barr ordered the tear gas and rubber bullets so he could take a photo op with the Bible. But it was his order in reality. Of course Barr will bear that cross... along with other things he's done for the President.
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Brother, I wish you would look at the situation from a more balanced standpoint. That's all I will say. You are being misled by some media sources which have certain aims, which are not necessarily in your best interest. Please discern.
 
The crazy thing to me is how could anyone vote with that group that just shredded Drew Brees. Not a more giving, charitable guy. He has given more to blacks than any black that is trashing him. How could anyone be on that side- white or black.
 
Smont said:
Who got banned? I can't figure it out
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Justhere4comm - not sure what happened. He and I disagree on the politics, and we both can go overboard...but I still like his input, even if he gets me worked up with some of it.
 
BamBam54 said:
Looking at the names/logos on left side and the title underneath (member, etc), it appears that Justhere4comm got banned.
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The scarlet letter. Mark of shame.
 
HIT4ME said:
Justhere4comm - not sure what happened. He and I disagree on the politics, and we both can go overboard...but I still like his input, even if he gets me worked up with some of it.
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Oooo, I'm not super surprised. He didn't bother me in the slightest. Honestly I think a lot of his argument posts were just to push ppls buttons and I kinda get a kick out of that. But I had a feeling he was going to piss off too many ppl and get the banhammer
 
Smont said:
Oooo, I'm not super surprised. He didn't bother me in the slightest. Honestly I think a lot of his argument posts were just to push ppls buttons and I kinda get a kick out of that. But I had a feeling he was going to piss off too many ppl and get the banhammer
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He did bother me but I still do feel a little sad that he's been banned. I have real difficulty with some of the more involved leftist viewpoints.
 
Iwilleattuna said:
Today, I was riding my bike and fell off my bike......

THIS IS TRUMP'S FAULT!
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Yup. And chances are he will just try to pass blame and do something like stupid, like saying it was your fault.
 
I just get tired of the ridiculous one-sided propaganda. Like the argument made that closing the country earlier would have saved lives with some mathematical certainty, but completely ignoring the counter point that closing the country later would have cost that many more lives. One side of every argument a noble resistance movement, and the other side impossible to conceive or acknowledge in any reality. Looking into this further, it appears the final straw was in some political thread and the Admin's became equally tired of the disingenuous shill from lib-ville.

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Meanwhile - it remains to be seen what happens with the spread of corona and our beloved gyms. There is a typical slow down of all respiratory diseases in the dryer summer months... but how will that offset against states reopening and mob riots?? Maryland is still running a pretty tight semi-lockdown. Masks everywhere. None of the local gyms are opening yet, not even in the apartment building where I have an office. Got my first haircut since early March... by appointment at a barbershop. Half of those are still pretty well closed.

I still worry/wonder - with the slowed business economy and greatly reduced tax revenues, how will we address the massive additional government spending via stimulus? And we thought corona math was tough !!! LOL
 
maximillia said:
He did bother me but I still do feel a little sad that he's been banned. I have real difficulty with some of the more involved leftist viewpoints.
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Believe me, I understand. Politics and religion are very touchy subjects for many ppl. I'm just one of those people that don't care enough to be bothered by those things. Anywho. Il let y'all get back to your thing and keep watching from the sidelines
 
Most things mentioned are opinions, most people get irritated when people keep pushing their opinion as fact and then they tell you your opinion is always wrong. Lol. Open dialogue, which we see doesn't exist.
 
mase1 said:
Most things mentioned are opinions, most people get irritated when people keep pushing their opinion as fact and then they tell you your opinion is always wrong. Lol. Open dialogue, which we see doesn't exist.
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True, true, true! The fact is opinions are being presented as facts on both sides...in my opinion. 😜
 
Just moved and set up my home gym room. Rubber flooring, adjustable bench, 2 sets of adjustable dumbbells, and a curl bar, with enough plates to get one set of DBs up to at least 100lbs each.

And I just picked up the pull-up/dip tower for $80. With a band to make pull-ups easier if I want, or a weight belt to make them (and dips) harder. Also, not pictured is the TRX-style bands/cable I made out of steel chain, quick links, and PVC pipe.

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muscleupcrohn said:
Just moved and set up my home gym room. Rubber flooring, adjustable bench, 2 sets of adjustable dumbbells, and a curl bar, with enough plates to get one set of DBs up to at least 100lbs each.

And I just picked up the pull-up/dip tower for $80. With a band to make pull-ups easier if I want, or a weight belt to make them (and dips) harder. Also, not pictured is the TRX-style bands/cable I made out of steel chain, quick links, and PVC pipe.

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Yeah I started back at the gym this past week, don't recommend the gym if you are concerned about the covid. Pretty much same as prior to pandemic, just some equipment shut down and cardio spread out. And more hand sanitizer available.
 
Iwilleattuna said:
Today, I was riding my bike and fell off my bike......

THIS IS TRUMP'S FAULT!
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Nobody can dispute that he gets criticized for everything. I trust most people are able to see through the media foolishness. If he speaks his mind and says something true, yet in a different context or tone than we typically hear from presidential puppets- he gets criticized for his honesty.

If he highlights something positive about a bad situation such as increased awareness in honor of Floyd’s memory, he gets shyt for that. I love seeing someone who isn’t afraid to make bold statements and moves. He has been faced with one horrendous situation after another since being in office. Nobody has ever been so unfairly scrutinized IMO..

On another note, is anyone else feeling bad for law enforcement during all these incessant protests? We all know what happened was terrible, but police officers serve a necessary purpose in society while putting their own lives at risk. It’s a high risk job in high risk situations, so some not so wonderful things are going to happen. There are also dirty cops that have treated all races unjustly. These people should be better identified and removed from their position, but to demean the entire police force is a disgrace. To see them take a knee and give in to the demands of protestors is unacceptable.

We can’t give the impression that their authority is vulnerable. It’s just another step in the direction toward the end of our country as we once knew it.

Pamdemic/Endemic
Economic collapse
Civil unrest
Impending government collapse as a result

People need to get a grip on the big picture before it’s too late. Hopefully it already isn’t..
 
Ricky10 said:
Nobody can dispute that he gets criticized for everything. I trust most people are able to see through the media foolishness. If he speaks his mind and says something true, yet in a different context or tone than we typically hear from presidential puppets- he gets criticized for his honesty.

If he highlights something positive about a bad situation such as increased awareness in honor of Floyd’s memory, he gets shyt for that. I love seeing someone who isn’t afraid to make bold statements and moves. He has been faced with one horrendous situation after another since being in office. Nobody has ever been so unfairly scrutinized IMO..

On another note, is anyone else feeling bad for law enforcement during all these incessant protests? We all know what happened was terrible, but police officers serve a necessary purpose in society while putting their own lives at risk. It’s a high risk job in high risk situations, so some not so wonderful things are going to happen. There are also dirty cops that have treated all races unjustly. These people should be better identified and removed from their position, but to demean the entire police force is a disgrace. To see them take a knee and give in to the demands of protestors is unacceptable.

We can’t give the impression that their authority is vulnerable. It’s just another step in the direction toward the end of our country as we once knew it.

Pamdemic/Endemic
Economic collapse
Civil unrest
Impending government collapse as a result

People need to get a grip on the big picture before it’s too late. Hopefully it already isn’t..
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I think the issue isn’t so much that people think most cops are bad, only that a lot of them don’t do anything when they see one of the few bad apples doing bad. And then the departments often cover up for said bad apples wrongdoing. These BS “internal investigations.” Did you hear about the cops pushing the guy on video and reporting it as him tripping and falling? Or another video of a cop claiming a black man assaulted the officer despite video clearly showing he never touched him? These were all in recent protests.

In all honestly, ANYONE in a position of authority and power should be held MORE accountable, to HIGHER standards than your normal person. So when someone in a position of authority INTENTIONALLY does something blatantly wrong and illegal, they should, if anything, face HARSHER punishment. With great power comes great responsibility and all that.

Yes, there are bad cops of all races, and they do bad towards all races, but the issue is they other officers, and departments as a whole, often don’t do enough to weed out and prevent bad apples, and often even go to great lengths to protect them. That has to stop.
 
Ricky10 said:
Nobody can dispute that he gets criticized for everything. I trust most people are able to see through the media foolishness. If he speaks his mind and says something true, yet in a different context or tone than we typically hear from presidential puppets- he gets criticized for his honesty.

If he highlights something positive about a bad situation such as increased awareness in honor of Floyd’s memory, he gets shyt for that. I love seeing someone who isn’t afraid to make bold statements and moves. He has been faced with one horrendous situation after another since being in office. Nobody has ever been so unfairly scrutinized IMO..

On another note, is anyone else feeling bad for law enforcement during all these incessant protests? We all know what happened was terrible, but police officers serve a necessary purpose in society while putting their own lives at risk. It’s a high risk job in high risk situations, so some not so wonderful things are going to happen. There are also dirty cops that have treated all races unjustly. These people should be better identified and removed from their position, but to demean the entire police force is a disgrace. To see them take a knee and give in to the demands of protestors is unacceptable.

We can’t give the impression that their authority is vulnerable. It’s just another step in the direction toward the end of our country as we once knew it.

Pamdemic/Endemic
Economic collapse
Civil unrest
Impending government collapse as a result

People need to get a grip on the big picture before it’s too late. Hopefully it already isn’t..
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I think the issue isn’t so much that people think most cops are bad, only that a lot of them don’t do anything when they see one of the few bad apples doing bad. And then the departments often cover up for said bad apples wrongdoing. These BS “internal investigations.” Did you hear about the cops pushing the guy on video and reporting it as him tripping and falling? Or another video of a cop claiming a black man assaulted the officer despite video clearly showing he never touched him? These were all in recent protests.

In all honestly, ANYONE in a position of authority and power should be held MORE accountable, to HIGHER standards than your normal person. So when someone in a position of authority INTENTIONALLY does something blatantly wrong and illegal, they should, if anything, face HARSHER punishment. With great power comes great responsibility and all that.

Yes, there are bad cops of all races, and they do bad towards all races, but the issue is they other officers, and departments as a whole, often don’t do enough to weed out and prevent bad apples, and often even go to great lengths to protect them. That has to stop.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
I think the issue isn’t so much that people think most cops are bad, only that a lot of them don’t do anything when they see one of the few bad apples doing bad. And then the departments often cover up for said bad apples wrongdoing. These BS “internal investigations.” Did you hear about the cops pushing the guy on video and reporting it as him tripping and falling? Or another video of a cop claiming a black man assaulted the officer despite video clearly showing he never touched him? These were all in recent protests.

In all honestly, ANYONE in a position of authority and power should be held MORE accountable, to HIGHER standards than your normal person. So when someone in a position of authority INTENTIONALLY does something blatantly wrong and illegal, they should, if anything, face HARSHER punishment. With great power comes great responsibility and all that.

Yes, there are bad cops of all races, and they do bad towards all races, but the issue is they other officers, and departments as a whole, often don’t do enough to weed out and prevent bad apples, and often even go to great lengths to protect them. That has to stop.
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Some fair points. While I have never been the biggest fan of police in general and agree that some issues should/will be addressed, I can’t help but feel that we are allowing them to be degraded too harshly. We would be much worse off without them. It doesn’t even make sense how these “peaceful“ protests can still be carried on in such a way. It’s over the top, intrusive, disruptive, dangerous, and obnoxious.

Last weekend, we couldn’t even transport patients with life threatening conditions to appropriate medical facilities because they were blocking hospital access due to their sheer numbers in the roads. We had to life flight patients which took significantly longer (literally an entire day) and exponentially more expensive. No to mention an unnecessary use of valuable resources.

Today, a small town in Maine was scheduled to have a “peaceful“ protest of 1,000 people. Yesterday, people found brick and stone piles were intermittently placed throughout the community, which also happens to have a local hospital. Police removed the rock/bricks from the neighborhoods and businesses boarded up their windows. Severe thunderstorms put a damper on things, but people were afraid of what could potentially happen to their homes, pets, and other people’s lives. The national guard was called in. Luckily, the severe weather hit and seemed to deter the group.

This could happen anywhere, in any small town. Nobody is really safe anywhere in this current situation..
 
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