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Anyone worried if Corona virus keeps spreading the gyms will shut down?

AntM1564 said:
That's because you're in CT, like me. It is a state requirement. Even when gyms open up on the 20th, masks will be required which is hard to believe. It's difficult to breathe with them on. I can't imagining working out with them.
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I have a hard enough time breathing twords the end of my workout as is. I'm not wearing a mask, il stay working out in my basement till things normalize, I'm thinking around 2022 lol
 
I thought the whole point of the covid was to release it into these crowds of rioting and thin them out after a couple weeks. Guess we will see the results shortly.
 
justhere4comm said:
Colorado. It was powerful.
Antifa is not behind any of it.

That would be.

- proud boys
- 3% ers
- incel
- boogyboola or some stupid name
- white supremacists

There’s proof as they are getting arrested. Yes there are infiltrators in organizations always during these times.

Antifa is anti fascist.
They would be harming themselves.
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Incels?! Hahaha, what they angry bout, women not realising they owe em sex haha
 
The breathing restriction from wearing a mask in the gym gives me an excuse to not do cardio. It’s a blessing in disguise.
 
I even voted for Obama to give the country a change. Unfortunately alot of what he did fueled the current hate.
 
He put alot of free programs in place for African Americans, Trump came in and put limits or ended them after alot of them being on for 8 years. Obama set them up for failure by taking care of them without any motivation to better themselves.
 
Woody said:
How? Obama accomplished like literally nothing.
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Are you saying his policies were, I'm, vanilla?

It's looking more and more like Trump will be in for another 4 years.

I am sending an ambulance to @justhere4comm's house now...I know he just had an aneurism.
 
Huh? How did this turn to Obama?

Current Potus had (through AG Barr) Americans Gassed and shot with rubber bullets so he could have a photo op. with a bible that he held upside down btw, in front of a church, where he received criticism by the clergy that was also gassed with tear gas, not smoke bombs, and the Biship of that church.

I could write a dissertation on what this bunkerboi has done to harm American and Americans for his personal gain.
(Covid-19) Trump knew from various trusted sources of the seriousness in January. He golfed. A lot.
Please, continue to talk Obama to distract from this epic coward and fat failure in office now that has 'united' racists.

It's going to be a landslide of blue votes taking the Senate; keeping The House; and taking the Potus.
No ambulance needed here, but I'll take some O2. This mask is killing me slowly.
 
justhere4comm said:
Huh? How did this turn to Obama?

Current Potus had (through AG Barr) Americans Gassed and shot with rubber bullets so he could have a photo op. with a bible that he held upside down btw, in front of a church, where he received criticism by the clergy that was also gassed with tear gas, not smoke bombs, and the Biship of that church.

I could write a dissertation on what this bunkerboi has done to harm American and Americans for his personal gain.
(Covid-19) Trump knew from various trusted sources of the seriousness in January. He golfed. A lot.
Please, continue to talk Obama to distract from this epic coward and fat failure in office now that has 'united' racists.

It's going to be a landslide of blue votes taking the Senate; keeping The House; and taking the Potus.
No ambulance needed here, but I'll take some O2. This mask is killing me slowly.
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Wait, wasn't he a xenophobe back in January? So, Biden and Pelosi get a pass for resisting action?

Could he do better, yes. Sure. But it isn't like it was a big uprising saying he should be taking action. No one was prepared.
 
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All presidents can be second guessed but Trump has done a good job considering what he has faced. First 3 years he was excellent. Again I will vote for the best candidate but clearly Biden is not an option for anyone.
 
Trump has given the "Black Community" more tear gas and rubber bullets than any President in a generation.
What has Trump done?
 
justhere4comm said:
Trump has given the "Black Community" more tear gas and rubber bullets than any President in a generation.
What has Trump done?
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Just because they are committing crimes doesn't mean they are the "black community"
 
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Economy, every aspect of it. Also love his one liners, tells it like it is. No babying people, speaks how most of us do. Just does it in front of the world, not the smartest sometimes.
 
I have voted for Obama and Trump, and I am open to a better option as we should always deserve better from our voters in offices. But honestly Biden, no way anyone can vote for Biden. The problem people vote against Trump not for Biden. Ask your party elected officials to put someone in place that you would actually want. Hate all you want but can't compare where Biden currently is in his life. Maybe 10 years ago.
 
Biden's speech was impressive, and I'll be voting for him, and so will a great many other people.
Sure people will be voting against Trump. That's how this works. Democracy.
 
justhere4comm said:
Biden's speech was impressive, and I'll be voting for him, and so will a great many other people.
Sure people will be voting against Trump. That's how this works. Democracy.
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Which one?

The one where he loves Vermont, because it's such a great town? (He must have learned geography from Obama and doesn't realize there are 50 states).

Or how about the one where he talks about how America has never been shut down by a pandemic...from the Civil War to 16 all the way around to 17....whatever he meant by that. Not to mention that sounds a lot like a plea to avoid social distancing.

Or the "you ain't black" speech?

I thought we have just spent almost an entire term getting upset with Trump because "he says stupid things".

Literally everything they accuse Trump of, Biden actually does and embodies.

If you actually have ANY reason NOT to vote for Trump, you have to admit Biden shouldn't get your vote for the same reason.

Oh, wait, I forgot. The demo accused Trump of withholding funds from Ukraine to get what he wants. Biden is on tape bragging about doing the same thing. If Biden gets in, he has to be impeached under the same standard Trump was.

And that is probably the plan with the whole Weekend at Biden's campaign. Get his body across the finish line, impeach him and slide a prechosen VP into his place.
 
justhere4comm said:
I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens when Biden wins.
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How about the "narcissistic" grandiose statements Trump makes? You know like when he said to someone, "I think I probably have a much higher OQ than you do." And went on to claim he finished near the top of his law class?

Oh, wait, that was Biden.

And he also finished near the bottom of his math class since he finished 76 out of a class of 85.

New joke, "what do you call someone who finished in the bottom 15% of their law class? Senator."

If you really believe the issues you have with Trump are issues...I am just curious how you can support this guy.

We haven't even started on his racist past, or the fact that his assault accuser actually has evidence, which exceeds the standard set by the democrats.

The reasons for not voting for Trump also apply to Biden.
 
justhere4comm said:
National GE:

Biden 47% (+10)
Trump 37%

Reuters/Ipsos 6/1-2
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We will see. But it just shows that people are not voting from any logically thought out position if Biden wins. Pure emotions with no base.
 
Again all I say is you should vote for the best candidate, and since your party knows you just follow what they tell you to do they put a corpse there and you would still vote for him.
 
mase1 said:
I even voted for Obama to give the country a change. Unfortunately alot of what he did fueled the current hate.
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Everything that every president does fuels the problems for the next. It's a vicious cycle of talking bobble head dolls pretending to run the country lol
 
mase1 said:
I thought the whole point of the covid was to release it into these crowds of rioting and thin them out after a couple weeks. Guess we will see the results shortly.
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This is humor, right?
mase1 said:
This nonsense probably secures Trump 4 more years.
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I don't know, I think it's costing him. Lots of people who may have been on the fence, ESPECIALLY minorities, probably don't like his seemingly wanton, gung ho approach to handling protests and riots. People who are going to vote for him because of how he's handling this very likely were already going to, so I can only see this costing him votes at the end of the day.
mase1 said:
Economy, every aspect of it. Also love his one liners, tells it like it is. No babying people, speaks how most of us do. Just does it in front of the world, not the smartest sometimes.
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I also like someone who speaks their mind, in theory, but in practice, there are times when you just shouldn't say things, or should sort of filter what you say to the situation and audience you are speaking to. College freshman learn this; the President of the United States should be able to figure it out.
HIT4ME said:
Which one?

The one where he loves Vermont, because it's such a great town? (He must have learned geography from Obama and doesn't realize there are 50 states).

Or how about the one where he talks about how America has never been shut down by a pandemic...from the Civil War to 16 all the way around to 17....whatever he meant by that. Not to mention that sounds a lot like a plea to avoid social distancing.

Or the "you ain't black" speech?

I thought we have just spent almost an entire term getting upset with Trump because "he says stupid things".

Literally everything they accuse Trump of, Biden actually does and embodies.

If you actually have ANY reason NOT to vote for Trump, you have to admit Biden shouldn't get your vote for the same reason.

Oh, wait, I forgot. The demo accused Trump of withholding funds from Ukraine to get what he wants. Biden is on tape bragging about doing the same thing. If Biden gets in, he has to be impeached under the same standard Trump was.

And that is probably the plan with the whole Weekend at Biden's campaign. Get his body across the finish line, impeach him and slide a prechosen VP into his place.
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Don't forget kids rubbing his hairy legs in the pool.
 
Anyway, back to the topic of gyms, I just moved to an apartment with a dedicated gym room, and the doorway pull-up bar I have doesn't fit ANY of the doors in the apartment! They all either have a low ceiling on one end that prevents the back side of the bar from resting on top of the door frame, or are too wide for the actual bar to rest on.

So I'm thinking of buying a pull-up station/tower. I considered making one out of 4x4s and steel pipe, but that'd still run me I think between $125 and $150, plus time and effort (and having to paint it too).

Having the ability to do dips would be great too, but it'd have to be solid for dips, as I like doing weighted dips, often with 90+ pounds.

I see this in-stock from Walmart, and it says it has a 440-lb capacity, but there's like no reviews on it. Amazon had I think 5 reviews for it and they were good, but a similar looking one from Walmart got not good reviews, and I don't want to spend $200 on something that isn't pretty damn sturdy.

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Any recommendations for $250 or under for a pull-up and dip station? I think my options are either one like that, or just a squat rack that has a straight pull-up bar on top of it, which should, in theory, be fairly cheap for something fairly sturdy, but I know stock of a lot of things are VERY limited at the moment.

Oh, and I also have TRX-style bands that I'd like to be able to attach to the pull-up bar to do things like rows, triceps extensions, rear delts, etc., so it should be sturdy in other planes besides just the vertical plane you'd expect from doing pull-ups.

Thanks in advance everyone!
 
Anyway, back to the topic of gyms, I just moved to an apartment with a dedicated gym room, and the doorway pull-up bar I have doesn't fit ANY of the doors in the apartment! They all either have a low ceiling on one end that prevents the back side of the bar from resting on top of the door frame, or are too wide for the actual bar to rest on.

So I'm thinking of buying a pull-up station/tower. I considered making one out of 4x4s and steel pipe, but that'd still run me I think between $125 and $150, plus time and effort (and having to paint it too).

Having the ability to do dips would be great too, but it'd have to be solid for dips, as I like doing weighted dips, often with 90+ pounds.

I see this in-stock from Walmart, and it says it has a 440-lb capacity, but there's like no reviews on it. Amazon had I think 5 reviews for it and they were good, but a similar looking one from Walmart got not good reviews, and I don't want to spend $200 on something that isn't pretty damn sturdy.

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Any recommendations for $250 or under for a pull-up and dip station? I think my options are either one like that, or just a squat rack that has a straight pull-up bar on top of it, which should, in theory, be fairly cheap for something fairly sturdy, but I know stock of a lot of things are VERY limited at the moment.

Oh, and I also have TRX-style bands that I'd like to be able to attach to the pull-up bar to do things like rows, triceps extensions, rear delts, etc., so it should be sturdy in other planes besides just the vertical plane you'd expect from doing pull-ups.

Thanks in advance everyone!

Edit: I'm less worried about the one I linked from Walmart now. The one that I thought looked similar (that got bad reviews) actually looks like the metal is a lot thinner, and it's listed at only 13.2 pounds to the sturdier-looking one's 72 pounds.
 
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justhere4comm said:
Colorado. It was powerful.
Antifa is not behind any of it.

That would be.

- proud boys
- 3% ers
- incel
- boogyboola or some stupid name
- white supremacists

There’s proof as they are getting arrested. Yes there are infiltrators in organizations always during these times.

Antifa is anti fascist.
They would be harming themselves.
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Hey @justhereforcommunism, here’s a link with mugshots of all your nazis. You are such a **** bag lol.

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Liberals can suck Antifas Dick all they want. this will only end one way and that's with Trump being reelected. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA bring on the murder hornets.. this one failed too!
 
On the Covid note:

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GreenMachineX said:
“Oops, my bad. Guess we should’ve tightened up more.”
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Don't be so hard on yourself. It was convincing.

Sweden & South Korea
Others were holding Sweden up as a good example, and people did listen to that mistakenly.
I used South Korea because they responded quickly, and everyone conformed to the test and contact tracking which is what was needed here on a nationally driven level, but then again, Trump said no. States are responsible... That's not how one leads a country through a pandemic.

Keyword: Sooner
I think the keyword is sooner, not more per se, but Trump was warned the seriousness by intel and other organizations about Covid-19. He knew but ignored the science. He doesn't understand the science, and he doesn't care either.

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So, if we had responded one week earlier. 1 week. 36,000 more would be alive today in the USA.
How anyone can't hold him responsible for this alone, is just ignoring facts.

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I'd ask everyone in here to be honest. If it were another president. How would you feel about the response?
I'd be f*cking p*ssed no matter who it was, but then again President Obama had a plan, Trump's team tore up, and don't have anything but some binder with nothing in it. Go ahead and Trust him with your life. I wouldn't. He doesn't care.

Trump's Covid-19 Plan
Where is that plan? Did they publish it? I'd love to see a link to it...
The CDC Plan was shelved and shut down too, but it leaked.
 
justhere4comm said:
Don't be so hard on yourself. It was convincing.

Sweden & South Korea
Others were holding Sweden up as a good example, and people did listen to that mistakenly.
I used South Korea because they responded quickly, and everyone conformed to the test and contact tracking which is what was needed here on a nationally driven level, but then again, Trump said no. States are responsible... That's not how one leads a country through a pandemic.

Keyword: Sooner
I think the keyword is sooner, not more per se, but Trump was warned the seriousness by intel and other organizations about Covid-19. He knew but ignored the science. He doesn't understand the science, and he doesn't care either.

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So, if we had responded one week earlier. 1 week. 36,000 more would be alive today in the USA.
How anyone can't hold him responsible for this alone, is just ignoring facts.

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I'd ask everyone in here to be honest. If it were another president. How would you feel about the response?
I'd be f*cking p*ssed no matter who it was, but then again President Obama had a plan, Trump's team tore up, and don't have anything but some binder with nothing in it. Go ahead and Trust him with your life. I wouldn't. He doesn't care.

Trump's Covid-19 Plan
Where is that plan? Did they publish it? I'd love to see a link to it...
The CDC Plan was shelved and shut down too, but it leaked.
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I feel like you are falling for the media hype quite a bit here and trying to pin it on one guy.

How can you ignore that when Trump was trying to close borders and eliminate unnecessary travel, he was being called a xenophobe? If he had the Intel and that was his plan, we could have argued whether it was right or wrong (clearly, in hindsight, it should have been more aggressively implemented) - but with all of the knee-jerk resistance he faces you can't fight his plan and then blame him for not implementing it.

And I have to say, I have never received a check from the gov't so quickly - even when it is my own money they are sending back to me.

Consider the timeline:

January 20-28, the WHO and chinese authorities announce confirmation that human-to-human transmission of the corona virus had already occurred.

January 29-31 - The U.S formally announced a White House Coronavirus Task Force.....President Trump repeatedly claimed credit for acting early with the travel ban. However, The Washington Post reported that 300,000 people traveled to the U.S. from China during the month prior to the ban. The New York Times reported that more than 40,000 persons traveled from China to the U.S. after the January 31 partial ban, and around 430,000 total between the December 31 disclosure of the outbreak by China and April 4.

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So, yeah, if we acted a week earlier, a lot of people would have been alive - but how do you view that as "Trump had all kinds of information and should have acted sooner"? And if there was more info, then why were the Dems fighting him? I mean, by this point it was public knowledge that human-to-human transmission has occurred and presumably the senate and congress should have had more information than that as well?

You could also say that if we acted 2 months earlier, a bunch of lives would be saved. Maybe all of them.

But even in the light of 108,000 dead we are having protests over the closures. What would we be saying if he closed everything down and we had 15,000 deaths? Everyone would be saying what a crappy president he is because he destroyed the economy over 15,000 deaths. And maybe he shouldn't have that on his mind so much and should have saved 90,000+ lives instead, but hey - who really made that bed? Pelosi, Biden and all of the people who have been so unreasonable toward his actions.

What were Pelosi or Biden doing at the end of January? I don't know....let's look at Pelosi's press releases:

“The Trump Administration’s expansion of its outrageous, un-American travel ban threatens our security, our values and the rule of law. The sweeping rule, barring more than 350 million individuals from predominantly African nations from traveling to the United States, is discrimination disguised as policy.

“America’s strength has always been as a beacon of hope and opportunity for people around the world, whose dreams and aspirations have enriched our nation and made America more American. With this latest callous decision, the President has doubled down on his cruelty and further undermined our global leadership, our Constitution and our proud heritage as a nation of immigrants.

“In the Congress and in the Courts, House Democrats will continue to oppose the Administration’s dangerous anti-immigrant agenda. In the coming weeks, the House Judiciary Committee will mark-up and bring to the Floor the NO BAN Act to prohibit religious discrimination in our immigration system and limit the President’s ability to impose such biased and bigoted restrictions. We will never allow hatred or bigotry to define our nation or destroy our values.”

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As a matter of fact, I looked from January 15th - February 24th before I saw any mention of Sars, Coronavirus or Covid in any of her press releases - because she didn't even mention it when she criticized his ban on travel on January 31st. I mean, presumably, if Trump should have acted sooner because all of the information was there, she should have at least known it was worth mentioning, right?

But, on 2/24 here is her statement:

"Americans need a coordinated, fully-funded, whole-of-government response to keep them and their loved ones safe. The President’s request for coronavirus response funding is long overdue and completely inadequate to the scale of this emergency."

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And this statement goes on to criticize him for "slashing" funding for the CDC (a lot of help that funding did us) as she looks to score further political points, and THEN she delayed the bill!!!

And yet, she still didn't recognize the scope of this because she says, "The President should not be raiding money that Congress has appropriated for other life-or-death public health priorities." Huh? Does she think there are unlimited funds? Is this someone who should REALLY be in charge?

She talks in circles and criticizes him for not funding something fast enough, criticizes him for slashing funding, then fights him and delays the funding while claiming she is looking out for the citizens. No she is looking to protect her power. And then she states he shouldn't be taking funding from other sources to fund this? Where would we be if he hadn't cut spending prior to this?

I don't get how we can put it all on Trump. It isn't like the democrats, as proven by Pelosi's silence on Covid for over a month after he tried to stop unnecessary travel and she criticized him for it, were up in arms at the time saying this is a big problem and he is ignoring it. They are just being revisionist and our memories are so pathetically short that many of us are falling for it. Or we just want to believe what we want to believe.
 
Also, just because Trump didn't follow Obama's plan, doesn't mean he was wrong. Maybe there was something in the plan that was not so great. I guarantee you that if he needs it, he can get access to it right now.

But, even the most liberal of sources shows he has some plans that he took action on:

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The responsibility lies with the President. Nobody else.
He always has other people take the fall for him. Even Barr ordered the tear gas and rubber bullets so he could take a photo op with the Bible. But it was his order in reality. Of course Barr will bear that cross... along with other things he's done for the President.
 
HIT4ME said:
The Washington Post reported that 300,000 people traveled to the U.S. from China during the month prior to the ban. The New York Times reported that more than 40,000 persons traveled from China to the U.S. after the January 31 partial ban, and around 430,000 total between the December 31 disclosure of the outbreak by China and April 4.
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the people who traveled to and from China during the travel ban were American Citizens allowed to come home and likewise, those traveling to were Chinese citizens and high level dignitaries. This has been shown time and time again.
 
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“Oops, my bad. Guess we should’ve tightened up more.”
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So after you play the WHO card all along now you pretend you could care less about the WHO...

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oh look its from a total liberal rag too.. the NYPOST.

quit.. just quit.

BTW… and you probably wouldn't know this.. But FL did the very same thing as Sweden and low and behold.. they have the lowest death rate in the country.

Again .. just stop with the fear mongering.
 
justhere4comm said:
The responsibility lies with the President. Nobody else.
He always has other people take the fall for him. Even Barr ordered the tear gas and rubber bullets so he could take a photo op with the Bible. But it was his order in reality. Of course Barr will bear that cross... along with other things he's done for the President.
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And I agree the responsibility falls on him. And he made a call, before anyone else, and they fought him and he still did it. And he reduced travel to and from China precipitously, in spite of the heavy, unfounded criticism. He made the call. He reduced travel from 300,000 in 30 days to 130,000 in 90 days. It worked, it should have come sooner, and he should have had more support.

But, while I agree that Trump has the highest responsibility, what is Pelosi's responsibility? What is she getting paid for? Isn't brushing it off and pinning it on Trump the same exact thing you just accused Trump of doing?

xR1pp3Rx said:
the people who traveled to and from China during the travel ban were American Citizens allowed to come home and likewise, those traveling to were Chinese citizens and high level dignitaries. This has been shown time and time again.
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Yes, I take that math to show that the ban slowed travel dramatically - so he DID take actions, even though he got called racist and xenophobic for doing it. And he delivered with those actions.

It is easy to make up a number of how many deaths would have been avoided if we did things sooner, but has anyone come up with a number of how many lives were saved because Trump banned travel?

I mean, I think Trump should wear a mask and set a better personal example, fine. Should he maybe be less rough around the edges? At times. And he is a complete jerk most of the time. But it goes too far when every action he tries to take gets fought tooth and nail and then he gets criticized for not taking action - even though he made a significant impact in spite of the opposition. You can't have it both ways.
 
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