Hit brother Im not saying your math is wrong Im saying you are adding in all this quazi info that's convoluting things
imo, and have never once told you you were wrong but that I (ME MYSELF) disagree with you.
that said.. now this what about this??
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Ok, where is the "quasi info" that you do not want me to include?
Beyond the serology data, which is the big argument that most if the "its a bad flu" people are using, we have simple math.
100,000 dearhs / 1,600,000 confirmed infections.
6% death rate.
Most people want to blow this up as being too simplistic, which I can agree with and throwing out that there are more infections than 1.6M and there are all types asymptomatic cases, etc.
So, I am playing along and including the best data we have in those factors - which makes it, extremely slightly, more complicated.
So I am not including anything that doesn't work in your favor here and now you are saying it shouldn't be included? When will you begin to see that the ONLY way your theories work is if we ignore reality and believe in completely made up numbers that refute all of the evidence that we have actually collected?
You can disagree, I welcome disagreement - this would be a boring discussion without it, but I would implore you to apply some reasoning, use some basic math, and arrive at your opinion based on evidence.
And that headline is playing on people. You can believe we should have a complete, 100% nuclear lockdown beyond what we have even had and still make the statement that being in lockdown for too long will cause irreparable damage. That is the entire problem with this situation - where do you draw the line and where is the balance. But you cannot answer those tough questions if you ignore the risk associated with one of the actions.
In other words, yes lockdown is a problem. Yes spreading this disease is a problem. Which is worse and how do we tell?
Early on we had NO way to tell so the choice had to be based on caution. We have gained more and more info now and a lot of people are going to die from this.. A lot already have. The risks are real.
Further, you are picking news articles as evidence. You say Sweden has it right,, but their death rate is much higher than other countries and their infection rates are still pretty low.. Other countries thought they could avoid lockdowns when they had low infection rates too...and they all changed course once things got bad.. It has been tried and failed.
Does that mean it may not work with some adjustment? No...it still may have some merit, but until we know what that adjustment is, it isn't a viable strategy.
Plus, in the US we have a bunch of dumb people. They forget about this entirely once the Gov't tells them to open up again. Like the gov't said it's OK so it can't hurt me now. That is the rules!
And we are out in large groups, at restaurants and parties, with no masks. In 3-4 weeks it is gonna hit us hard again.
Just like in March if you said 50,000 deaths in 2 months it seemed like a lot and no one believed it.. And it happened and everyone has already forgotten that the warnings were there...now we are doing it all over again..
And if you don't believe the next 3 months will cause another 100,000 deaths in the US minimum - tell me, what has changed? What will be different about the next 3 months? Better treatment? A vaccine? We haven't gotten to anything that will make a difference yet.
If we had, I would be all for opening, because, yes, staying closed for too long would be very bad.
and what about dr brix admitting the death numbers are fabricated.. just like Italy has revised its death numbers to reflect real covid deaths. instead of every death being a covid death. saying we have 100k deaths is not accurate to the CDC heads.
Do you actually know any doctors? Talk to them. None of the doctors I am talking to believe they are being pressured and I know doctors on multiple states. Almost all of them talk about how they are actually collecting the data and if they actually collected the flu data like this it would be a dramatic change - most believe the CDC flu stats would also be much smaller because it is entirely calculated and, your favorite, based on a mathematical formula without any real reporting or tracking on the micro level.
Death numbers will be revised, but the doctors are tracking this very closely and the pressure to do so is necessary - because we have to gather as much information, as accurately as possible, as quickly as possible. A doctor trying to say it was a death caused by pneumonia and not covid is just foolishness.
Anyway. I do appreciate the debate. Not trying to be fearful, just realistic. It is a tough situation and there isn't an easy answer.