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Except that in no case whatsoever in recorded history was finding evidence of criminal activity considered to be campaign contributions. But you know, keep grasping for straws!
Google "oppo research."
 
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Google "oppo research."
Their opposition is all of us and their primary oppo research is brainwashing the public into supporting them and also giving us the illusion of choice and thinking that people will get something really different.
 
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Their opposition is all of us and their primary oppo research is brainwashing the public into supporting them and also giving us the illusion of choice and thinking that people will get something really different.
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"This idea of purity and you're never compromised and you're always politically 'woke' and all that stuff. You should get over that quickly. The world is messy, there are ambiguities. People who do really good stuff have flaws. People who you are fighting may love their kids. And share certain things with you."

-Barry Soetoro aka Bareback Obobo

Yeah Obobo, nice words why dont you go to ground Zero where you obliverated Lybia and killed mass graveyards full of innocent people you mass murdering war mongering lunatic! Why dont you tell Libyans to "get over that quickly!"

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"This idea of purity and you're never compromised and you're always politically 'woke' and all that stuff. You should get over that quickly. The world is messy, there are ambiguities. People who do really good stuff have flaws. People who you are fighting may love their kids. And share certain things with you."

-Barry Soetoro aka Bareback Obobo

Yeah Obobo, nice words why dont you go to ground Zero where you obliverated Lybia and killed mass graveyards full of innocent people you mass murdering war mongering lunatic! Why dont you tell Libyans to "get over that quickly!"
What he's saying is true, but yeah, not exactly the person who should be saying this. If nothing else, it's funny to imagine the reaction of the many that buy into the whole woke bs and consider him as the epitome of good.

Also, his past is still creeping up on him https://apnews.com/urn:publicid:ap.org:389f03e40e874bbe9d1687925e517d05
 
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The House just passed a resolution formalizing the impeachment inquiry into Prezident Dump but forgot to vote to impeach "The House."
 
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The House just passed a resolution formalizing the impeachment inquiry into Prezident Dump but forgot to vote to impeach "The House."
Funny how the people yelling about due process are now doing everything possible to avoid due process!
 
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Funny how the people yelling about due process are now doing everything possible to avoid due process!
The same people trying to protect this/these so called whistleblowers are mostly the same people that want to throw this guy VVV in the slammer for being a true American Patriot. Its all hypocrisy, both those sides are full of crap.

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I have documents showing that the CIA invented the whole thing, Global Warming was invented to both scare people, and divert their attention from other human-made dangers like nuclear weapons.”

The CIA gave millions of dollars to any scientist who would confirm the theory, so many unscrupulous scientists did what they were told in order to get the money. Now, there is so much fake data to confirm that Global Warming “exists”, that they actually convinced everyone that it was real.

-Edward Snowden
 
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I have documents showing that the CIA invented the whole thing, Global Warming was invented to both scare people, and divert their attention from other human-made dangers like nuclear weapons.”

The CIA gave millions of dollars to any scientist who would confirm the theory, so many unscrupulous scientists did what they were told in order to get the money. Now, there is so much fake data to confirm that Global Warming “exists”, that they actually convinced everyone that it was real.

-Edward Snowden
I can't find a good source that shows he actually said this. Let's pretend he did though. Show the documents and name the scientists. He hasn't been shy about sharing in the past, so why is he now?
 
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I can't find a good source that shows he actually said this. Let's pretend he did though. Show the documents and name the scientists. He hasn't been shy about sharing in the past, so why is he now?
He was quoted from an interview on the Moscow Tribune in '16. Now, if he really said this I am not positive but yeah Id be down to see some paper myself, especially although unlikely some of them may still be alive.

He did confirm Aliens were not on the database the other day though. At least he saw nothing and did look deep into it all as much as he could.
 
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I can't find a good source that shows he actually said this. Let's pretend he did though. Show the documents and name the scientists. He hasn't been shy about sharing in the past, so why is he now?
Ive spent a short time trying to do the right thing and find the actual source in Russian using google translate, and as of now I would say the statement I posted from Snowden is false.

He recently claimed climate change (Im guessing he is referring to man-made) was real on the Rogan show when he gave the bad news that he did not find anything on Aliens on the database.

I always thought Maurice Strong invented climate change in the 70s and at that time they were running on global cooling before all the sudden it became warming and these days its just climate change blada blada.

Anyways Im personally inconclusive specifically man made, but do think climate does change and always has. There are trillions of dollars to be made and people really need to be careful with policies that get set in stone as often these are about pockets and power rather than real rational solutions. I do think we need to take great care of our planet.
 
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Ive spent a short time trying to do the right thing and find the actual source in Russian using google translate, and as of now I would say the statement I posted from Snowden is false.

He recently claimed climate change (Im guessing he is referring to man-made) was real on the Rogan show when he gave the bad news that he did not find anything on Aliens on the database.

I always thought Maurice Strong invented climate change in the 70s and at that time they were running on global cooling before all the sudden it became warming and these days its just climate change blada blada.

Anyways Im personally inconclusive specifically man made, but do think climate does change and always has. There are trillions of dollars to be made and people really need to be careful with policies that get set in stone as often these are about pockets and power rather than real rational solutions. I do think we need to take great care of our planet.
Human activity — mostly as a by-product of fossil fuel combustion, partly by land use changes — increases the number of tiny particles (aerosols) in the atmosphere. These have a direct effect: they effectively increase the planetary albedo, thus cooling the planet by reducing the solar radiation reaching the surface; and an indirect effect: they affect the properties of clouds by acting as cloud condensation nuclei.[8] In the early 1970s some speculated that this cooling effect might dominate over the warming effect of the CO2 release: see discussion of Rasool and Schneider (1971), below. As a result of observations and a switch to cleaner fuel burning, this no longer seems likely; current scientific work indicates that global warming is far more likely.
 
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Ive spent a short time trying to do the right thing and find the actual source in Russian using google translate, and as of now I would say the statement I posted from Snowden is false.

He recently claimed climate change (Im guessing he is referring to man-made) was real on the Rogan show when he gave the bad news that he did not find anything on Aliens on the database.

I always thought Maurice Strong invented climate change in the 70s and at that time they were running on global cooling before all the sudden it became warming and these days its just climate change blada blada.

Anyways Im personally inconclusive specifically man made, but do think climate does change and always has. There are trillions of dollars to be made and people really need to be careful with policies that get set in stone as often these are about pockets and power rather than real rational solutions. I do think we need to take great care of our planet.
Here's the thing though. It's not like a group of 3 scientists are behind all of this. You're telling me that they're all paid off and nobody has come forward? If you know anybody in scientific research, they tend to be cynical as f#$%. Usually your pay tends to be crap relative to what you actually do, you're constantly worried about funding and getting by with lab equipment that is decades old, and you eventually realize that you wasted your 20s and 30s in school and doing post-docs while your friends who dropped out of high school were making more money at 20 doing construction than you are now and all of the ideals and drive you had when you started tend to go away when you're trying to buy a house and raise a family. So not a single one of those people came forward to the news or approached a coal company to cash out? Anything is possible, but it doesn't seem likely to me.

The science changes as we learn more, but most of the labeling hype is the news media who want something flashy to scare people into turning in. I grew up with warnings of acid rain and most kids these day would have no idea what that even is.
 
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Human activity — mostly as a by-product of fossil fuel combustion, partly by land use changes — increases the number of tiny particles (aerosols) in the atmosphere. These have a direct effect: they effectively increase the planetary albedo, thus cooling the planet by reducing the solar radiation reaching the surface; and an indirect effect: they affect the properties of clouds by acting as cloud condensation nuclei.[8] In the early 1970s some speculated that this cooling effect might dominate over the warming effect of the CO2 release: see discussion of Rasool and Schneider (1971), below. As a result of observations and a switch to cleaner fuel burning, this no longer seems likely; current scientific work indicates that global warming is far more likely.
Yeah "far more likely," and it 10-20 they will come up with some other theory and go back to cooling or have more documents leak about manipulated data to help the push public policy and acceptance. My stance will probably forever be inconclusive, although I would love New York to be a bit warmer.

I just signed my final contract to slap some solar on my roof and my car gets 52mpg. Im all for helping the environment when it makes economically sense for me.

What I wanna know was what did the FBI steal from Tesla's apartment after he passed away? He may have had a plan to allow people to access an unlimited amount of energy and at no cost to humanity, but for now we will never know.
 
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Here's the thing though. It's not like a group of 3 scientists are behind all of this. You're telling me that they're all paid off and nobody has come forward? If you know anybody in scientific research, they tend to be cynical as f#$%. Usually your pay tends to be crap relative to what you actually do, you're constantly worried about funding and getting by with lab equipment that is decades old, and you eventually realize that you wasted your 20s and 30s in school and doing post-docs while your friends who dropped out of high school were making more money at 20 doing construction than you are now and all of the ideals and drive you had when you started tend to go away when you're trying to buy a house and raise a family. So not a single one of those people came forward to the news or approached a coal company to cash out? Anything is possible, but it doesn't seem likely to me.

The science changes as we learn more, but most of the labeling hype is the news media who want something flashy to scare people into turning in. I grew up with warnings of acid rain and most kids these day would have no idea what that even is.
I remember the Amazon rainforest was huge (its destruction story that is) in the 80's and only recently made a come back but not as much as back then. When I was a kid I thought we were all going to be dead soon once the forest was gone, lol.

What I would like to know is if and how much the 500+ nuclear high altitude atmospheric testing possibly took effect on the ozone layer. Back in the 80s I remember talk of how there was a giant hole in the ozone layer over the south pole. If nuking it out was the cause that would change all the historical data and its meaning, I think at least.

Speaking of CO2, these phony environmentalist politicians should start cutting back by ending all the wars, blowing up crap every day with extremely high polluting love bombs and zipping jets endlessly around the globe. Maybe once they stop killing muslim babies and finally gain a grain of rice of ethical credibility Ill start taking them more seriously.
 
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I remember the Amazon rainforest was huge (its destruction story that is) in the 80's and only recently made a come back but not as much as back then. When I was a kid I thought we were all going to be dead soon once the forest was gone, lol.

What I would like to know is if and how much the 500+ nuclear high altitude atmospheric testing possibly took effect on the ozone layer. Back in the 80s I remember talk of how there was a giant hole in the ozone layer over the south pole. If nuking it out was the cause that would change all the historical data and its meaning, I think at least.

Speaking of CO2, these phony environmentalist politicians should start cutting back by ending all the wars, blowing up crap every day with extremely high polluting love bombs and zipping jets endlessly around the globe. Maybe once they stop killing muslim babies a finally gain a grain of rice of ethical credibility Ill start taking them more seriously.
We're in 100% agreement on the politicians! If there is a politician talking about the environment (or science in general...or anything in general) on either side, chances are they have no clue what they are talking about and were simply given talking points. Democrats go to one extreme of "the sky is falling" and the Republicans go to the other extreme of "nothing to see here, coal is good for the environment."
 
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We're in 100% agreement on the politicians! If there is a politician talking about the environment (or science in general...or anything in general) on either side, chances are they have no clue what they are talking about and were simply given talking points. Democrats go to one extreme of "the sky is falling" and the Republicans go to the other extreme of "nothing to see here, coal is good for the environment."
Here's the thing, a Democrat can say my car needs an oil change and a Republican can say it needs new breaks and people can say they have a right to disagree but if all the mechanics say, "no, it definitely needs an oil change..."

And it doesn't really matter at that point if the democrat understands the physics of adhesion and viscosity and vanderwals forces, etc, or not.
 
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Here's the thing, a Democrat can say my car needs an oil change and a Republican can say it needs new breaks and people can say they have a right to disagree but if all the mechanics say, "no, it definitely needs an oil change..."
Makes sense but not entirely accurate in the case of climate change. If mechanics are the scientists its not "all" and certain politicians/media/special-interests continually regurgitate definitives and condemn skepticism and questioning.
 
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Makes sense but not entirely accurate in the case of climate change. If mechanics are the scientists its not "all" and certain politicians/media/special-interests continually regurgitate definitives and condemn skepticism and questioning.
It's all relevant scientists. I don't care what a microbiologist who studies bacteria on squirrels has to say about climate change. I'm in neuroscience, so I can read the papers, but I'm not living it everyday like an actual climate researcher is. Show me one of those people saying that climate change isn't real and the data they have to back up that claim.
 
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Here's the thing, a Democrat can say my car needs an oil change and a Republican can say it needs new breaks and people can say they have a right to disagree but if all the mechanics say, "no, it definitely needs an oil change..."

And it doesn't really matter at that point if the democrat understands the physics of adhesion and viscosity and vanderwals forces, etc, or not.
Except very few listen to the mechanics. They latch onto whichever side fits their already-made-up mind.
 
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It's all relevant scientists. I don't care what a microbiologist who studies bacteria on squirrels has to say about climate change. I'm in neuroscience, so I can read the papers, but I'm not living it everyday like an actual climate researcher is. Show me one of those people saying that climate change isn't real and the data they have to back up that claim.
Its not people saying climate change is real, they climate always changes. Any scientist who thinks climate change isnt real is probably reading out of a 3 thousand year old book.

Its about the causes, and not just disputing the causes but not being so certain about it. Its all the relevent scientists who said global cooling then global warming then just call it climate change then they will make a major discovery and blame the sun or moon. Also Id be concerned about relevant scientists that were distributed corrupt or biased data. How do these scientists account for government manipuation of environment with wars, weapons testing such as nuclear weapons, etc....

To be clear, I dont want to get caught of with the anti-extremes either. I just dont know for sure other than we need to take care of our environment if and when it makes economical sense.

Well, Ill start with this below (Ive posted this here over the past few years several times) with NASA employees skepticism accounting for hundreds of well known climate specific scientists and their belief of unsubstantiated man made climate change. The next step is to find out who these scientists are, Im not sure I have time to do all this work lol! But I would start with that.

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49 former NASA employees to the agency asking it to stay out of what they see as a politicized and unsubstantiated field — human-caused global warming.

Dear Charlie,

We, the undersigned, respectfully request that NASA and the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) refrain from including unproven remarks in public releases and websites. We believe the claims by NASA and GISS, that man-made carbon dioxide is having a catastrophic impact on global climate change are not substantiated, especially when considering thousands of years of empirical data. With hundreds of well-known climate scientists and tens of thousands of other scientists publicly declaring their disbelief in the catastrophic forecasts, coming particularly from the GISS leadership, it is clear that the science is NOT settled.

The unbridled advocacy of CO2 being the major cause of climate change is unbecoming of NASA’s history of making an objective assessment of all available scientific data prior to making decisions or public statements.

As former NASA employees, we feel that NASA’s advocacy of an extreme position, prior to a thorough study of the possible overwhelming impact of natural climate drivers is inappropriate. We request that NASA refrain from including unproven and unsupported remarks in its future releases and websites on this subject. At risk is damage to the exemplary reputation of NASA, NASA’s current or former scientists and employees, and even the reputation of science itself.

For additional information regarding the science behind our concern, we recommend that you contact Harrison Schmitt or Walter Cunningham, or others they can recommend to you.

Thank you for considering this request.

Sincerely,

(Attached signatures)

CC: Mr. John Grunsfeld, Associate Administrator for Science

CC: Ass Mr. Chris Scolese, Director, Goddard Space Flight Center

Ref: Letter to NASA Administrator Charles Bolden, dated 3-26-12, regarding a request for NASA to refrain from making unsubstantiated claims that human produced CO2 is having a catastrophic impact on climate change.

/s/ Jack Barneburg, Jack – JSC, Space Shuttle Structures, Engineering Directorate, 34 years

/s/ Larry Bell – JSC, Mgr. Crew Systems Div., Engineering Directorate, 32 years

/s/ Dr. Donald Bogard – JSC, Principal Investigator, Science Directorate, 41 years

/s/ Jerry C. Bostick – JSC, Principal Investigator, Science Directorate, 23 years

/s/ Dr. Phillip K. Chapman – JSC, Scientist – astronaut, 5 years

/s/ Michael F. Collins, JSC, Chief, Flight Design and Dynamics Division, MOD, 41 years

/s/ Dr. Kenneth Cox – JSC, Chief Flight Dynamics Div., Engr. Directorate, 40 years

/s/ Walter Cunningham – JSC, Astronaut, Apollo 7, 8 years

/s/ Dr. Donald M. Curry – JSC, Mgr. Shuttle Leading Edge, Thermal Protection Sys., Engr. Dir., 44 years

/s/ Leroy Day – Hdq. Deputy Director, Space Shuttle Program, 19 years

/s/ Dr. Henry P. Decell, Jr. – JSC, Chief, Theory & Analysis Office, 5 years

/s/Charles F. Deiterich – JSC, Mgr., Flight Operations Integration, MOD, 30 years

/s/ Dr. Harold Doiron – JSC, Chairman, Shuttle Pogo Prevention Panel, 16 years

/s/ Charles Duke – JSC, Astronaut, Apollo 16, 10 years

/s/ Anita Gale

/s/ Grace Germany – JSC, Program Analyst, 35 years



/s/ Ed Gibson – JSC, Astronaut Skylab 4, 14 years

/s/ Richard Gordon – JSC, Astronaut, Gemini Xi, Apollo 12, 9 years

/s/ Gerald C. Griffin – JSC, Apollo Flight Director, and Director of Johnson Space Center, 22 years

/s/ Thomas M. Grubbs – JSC, Chief, Aircraft Maintenance and Engineering Branch, 31 years

/s/ Thomas J. Harmon

/s/ David W. Heath – JSC, Reentry Specialist, MOD, 30 years

/s/ Miguel A. Hernandez, Jr. – JSC, Flight crew training and operations, 3 years

/s/ James R. Roundtree – JSC Branch Chief, 26 years

/s/ Enoch Jones – JSC, Mgr. SE&I, Shuttle Program Office, 26 years

/s/ Dr. Joseph Kerwin – JSC, Astronaut, Skylab 2, Director of Space and Life Sciences, 22 years

/s/ Jack Knight – JSC, Chief, Advanced Operations and Development Division, MOD, 40 years

/s/ Dr. Christopher C. Kraft – JSC, Apollo Flight Director and Director of Johnson Space Center, 24 years

/s/ Paul C. Kramer – JSC, Ass.t for Planning Aeroscience and Flight Mechanics Div., Egr. Dir., 34 years

/s/ Alex (Skip) Larsen

/s/ Dr. Lubert Leger – JSC, Ass’t. Chief Materials Division, Engr. Directorate, 30 years

/s/ Dr. Humbolt C. Mandell – JSC, Mgr. Shuttle Program Control and Advance Programs, 40 years

/s/ Donald K. McCutchen – JSC, Project Engineer – Space Shuttle and ISS Program Offices, 33 years

/s/ Thomas L. (Tom) Moser – Hdq. Dep. Assoc. Admin. & Director, Space Station Program, 28 years

/s/ Dr. George Mueller – Hdq., Assoc. Adm., Office of Space Flight, 6 years

/s/ Tom Ohesorge

/s/ James Peacock – JSC, Apollo and Shuttle Program Office, 21 years

/s/ Richard McFarland – JSC, Mgr. Motion Simulators, 28 years

/s/ Joseph E. Rogers – JSC, Chief, Structures and Dynamics Branch, Engr. Directorate,40 years


/s/ Bernard J. Rosenbaum – JSC, Chief Engineer, Propulsion and Power Division, Engr. Dir., 48 years


/s/ Dr. Harrison (Jack) Schmitt – JSC, Astronaut Apollo 17, 10 years

/s/ Gerard C. Shows – JSC, Asst. Manager, Quality Assurance, 30 years

/s/ Kenneth Suit – JSC, Ass’t Mgr., Systems Integration, Space Shuttle, 37 years

/s/ Robert F. Thompson – JSC, Program Manager, Space Shuttle, 44 years/s/ Frank Van Renesselaer – Hdq., Mgr. Shuttle Solid Rocket Boosters, 15 years

/s/ Dr. James Visentine – JSC Materials Branch, Engineering Directorate, 30 years

/s/ Manfred (Dutch) von Ehrenfried – JSC, Flight Controller; Mercury, Gemini & Apollo, MOD, 10 years

 
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Now of course your going to get the "I told you so people" and people that completely ignore it.

I dont mean to be either of those. Im just a skeptic and there is nothing wrong with that. Above doesnt prove man-made climate change exists, doesnt exist, its effect and how much it exists, other potential causes such as solar activity, etc.....It doesnt mean anything other than some really serious people have skepticism just like me.
 
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Here's the thing, a Democrat can say my car needs an oil change and a Republican can say it needs new breaks and people can say they have a right to disagree but if all the mechanics say, "no, it definitely needs an oil change..."

And it doesn't really matter at that point if the democrat understands the physics of adhesion and viscosity and vanderwals forces, etc, or not.
That's just a scientist thing. Gravity is a "theory" but we're all pretty sure of it.

If 99% of the scientists said we think it needs an oil change and we're not 100% sure why but chances are you caused it and either way we're totally sure the oil change is a good idea...
 
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Now of course your going to get the "I told you so people" and people that completely ignore it.

I dont mean to be either of those. Im just a skeptic and there is nothing wrong with that. Above doesnt prove man-made climate change exists, doesnt exist, its effect and how much it exists, other potential causes such as solar activity, etc.....It doesnt mean anything other than some really serious people have skepticism just like me.
Skepticism is healthy; cynicism is toxic.
 
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That's just a scientist thing. Gravity is a "theory" but we're all pretty sure of it.

If 99% of the scientists said we think it needs an oil change and we're not 100% sure why but chances are you caused it and either way we're totally sure the oil change is a good idea...
Its also a common tactic to pretend the opposition barely or doesnt exist by in this case people in the oil change industry and others who have a big monetary benefit in doing so when in reality it may be 65/35 and the 35 have something strong to show for it. Just listen to us and buy in, nobody out there thinks otherwise.
 
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Not any longer. Only ones still supporting him are the illiterate, racists, uber rich, those directly benefiting without regard to human life or suffering, and those too stubborn to admit they have been duped...oh..lets not forget the gun nuts or those otherwise seemingly just plain crazy with their own bizzare agendas. Just saying. The man makes me embarrassed to call myself an American. Hope they impeach his lying crazy, ego manic, ignorant, stupid, selfish, racist, ass.
You’re obviously a democrat/liberal. Still love ya big man, but sucks to be you.

Let’s not forget a few years back all the democrats loved him when they gave him money. Hilary said he would make a great president because he can’t be bought. Oprah hopes he would someday run. Jesse jackson gave him an award and ceremony for trumps help with the rainbow coalition. Then trump runs as a republican becauE the liberals in this country have lost their minds. Now he is a racist, bigot, homophobe. 😂😂😂 laughable.
 
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Its also a common tactic to pretend the opposition barely or doesnt exist by in this case people in the oil change industry and others who have a big monetary benefit in doing so when in reality it may be 65/35 and the 35 have something strong to show for it. Just listen to us and buy in, nobody out there thinks otherwise.
"97–98% of the climate researchers most actively publishing in the field support the tenets of ACC (Anthropogenic Climate Change) outlined by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, and (ii) the relative climate expertise and scientific prominence of the researchers unconvinced of ACC are substantially below that of the convinced researchers."

Anderegg, William R L; Prall, James W.; Harold, Jacob; Schneider, Stephen H. (2010). "Expert credibility in climate change". Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. USA. 107(27): 12107–9. Bibcode:2010PNAS..10712107A. doi:10.1073/pnas.1003187107. PMC 2901439. PMID 20566872. (i)
 
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You’re obviously a democrat/liberal. Still love ya big man, but sucks to be you.

Let’s not forget a few years back all the democrats loved him when they gave him money. Hilary said he would make a great president because he can’t be bought. Oprah hopes he would someday run. Jesse jackson gave him an award and ceremony for trumps help with the rainbow coalition. Then trump runs as a republican becauE the liberals in this country have lost their minds. Now he is a racist, bigot, homophobe. 😂😂😂 laughable.
I don't understand how the super-predator-hunter and Aunt Jemima exonerate Trump from racism, bigotry and homophobia.
 
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"97–98% of the climate researchers most actively publishing in the field support the tenets of ACC (Anthropogenic Climate Change) outlined by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, and (ii) the relative climate expertise and scientific prominence of the researchers unconvinced of ACC are substantially below that of the convinced researchers."

Anderegg, William R L; Prall, James W.; Harold, Jacob; Schneider, Stephen H. (2010). "Expert credibility in climate change". Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. USA. 107(27): 12107–9. Bibcode:2010PNAS..10712107A. doi:10.1073/pnas.1003187107. PMC 2901439. PMID 20566872. (i)
Its a database of 1,300 scientists where they admittingly claim its not comprehensive of the climate community.

Requirements were 20 minimum published articles, what percentage is that of those who published 5-19? Its 97% of an incomplete database and who knows who compiled it (biases, skeptics dont count) its pretty easy to get high numbers like that if your looking for a specific zone for a specific reason.

Even these 1,300 scientists, I have to question how many were fed corrupted data, when trillions of dollars are to gain and power to grow its going to be impossible to get me to change my mind of being a skeptic.

The climate will always change and there is nothing anybody is going to do to stop it......but the funny thing is Im quite certain we have the science to control it so I cant take this stuff too seriously. Lets clean up pollution and keep people healthy and most importantly lets end the real genocide and real pollution thats going on now led by the US government.

Maybe its real, but the sun becomes less active in 10 years so man made global warming will be our ultimate savior!
 
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Lol, and what exactly makes him a homophobe and racist?
Dropping 10s of thousands of bombs on innocent middle eastern civilians count? If not, doesnt matter...he is worse than all homophobes and racists anyways, he is a war mongering genocidal mass murdering lunatic and should be arrested for human rights violations.
 
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Dropping 10s of thousands of bombs on innocent middle eastern civilians count? If not, doesnt matter...he is worse than all homophobes and racists anyways, he is a war mongering genocidal mass murdering lunatic and should be arrested for human rights violations.





You mean like this guy👆
 
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Lol, and what exactly makes him a homophobe and racist?
If you can't, or choose not to, see through the thin veil, I'll never be able to explain it.

He's never used the "n" word, worn a white hood or burned a cross so he's g2g, right?
 
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You mean like this guy👆
Yeah, thats it, just like that low life big government corporate/banker military industrial complex war mongering wolf hiding in sheeps skin trash former Prezident Bareback Obobo.

So what did you mean by that anyways??? hmmm......Are you saying because Obobo deserves to spend his remaining days in Gitmo with the other terrorists that Dump shouldnt bunk beds with him?
 
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Yeah, thats it, just like that low life big government corporate/banker military industrial complex war mongering wolf hiding in sheeps skin trash former Prezident Bareback Obobo.

So what did you mean by that anyways??? hmmm......Are you saying because Obobo deserves to spend his remaining days in Gitmo with the other terrorists that Dump shouldnt bunk beds with him?
No I asked what made him a homophobe and a racist. You said dropping bombs. My point was nobody said Obama was a racist homophobe for dropping bombs. That’s all.

I always hear the talking point words thrown out,homophobe, bigot, racist, etc. but never any actual acts people can say that justify the titles. People use those attacks when they don’t like somebody but can’t actually point to anything wrong they’ve done. You don’t like the guy, that’s your right, you disagree with everything he does and don’t want to vote for him, more power to you. But that doesn’t make him any of those things the media throws out. Who cares if he offended you and hurt your feelings. This isn’t kindergarten. The country is strong, the economy is strong, he is bringing our troops home and not putting up with these terrorist and communist countries bullshit. Sorry if you don’t like him, I’m voting for him again.

And I hate I got sucked into this thread on a workout forum site. Lol
 
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No I asked what made him a homophobe and a racist. You said dropping bombs. My point was nobody said Obama was a racist homophobe for dropping bombs. That’s all.
Actually I called Obobo that, but you didnt get a chance to hear me lol

To be 100% honest, outside of all this war stuff I take very seriously, I dont think either Obobo or Dump are racists...at least I dont think they are. I think both have some levels of ignorance and both are terrible at unifying mankind which is a topic for another day, but no neither are genuine racists. The racist accusations Ive heard geared towards both the past years imo is ridiculous. Both do oppress and destroy segments of other races, but those are consequences of feeding the endless war machine.
 
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I don't understand how the super-predator-hunter and Aunt Jemima exonerate Trump from racism, bigotry and homophobia.
They like to pretend out of all the ways of thinking that there are only two possible sides. Apparently "owning the libs" is more important than following the Constitution.
 
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Its a database of 1,300 scientists where they admittingly claim its not comprehensive of the climate community.

Requirements were 20 minimum published articles, what percentage is that of those who published 5-19? Its 97% of an incomplete database and who knows who compiled it (biases, skeptics dont count) its pretty easy to get high numbers like that if your looking for a specific zone for a specific reason.

Even these 1,300 scientists, I have to question how many were fed corrupted data, when trillions of dollars are to gain and power to grow its going to be impossible to get me to change my mind of being a skeptic.

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Maybe its real, but the sun becomes less active in 10 years so man made global warming will be our ultimate savior!
Simple question: how do you know the climate always changes?
 
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Simple question: how do you know the climate always changes?
I trust you can answer that one for me, but if your wondering although not perfect, I am big on looking to science for the truth :)

But I can ask you a question, if its primarily short term man-made climate change (which I do say it might) what is it that you want to do about it and how? Would it be more reasonable to prepare for potential life in the future rather than expecting the globe to make enough change?
 
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I trust you can answer that one for me, but if your wondering although not perfect, I am big on looking to science for the truth :)

But I can ask you a question, if its primarily short term man-made climate change (which I do say it might) what is it that you want to do about it and how? Would it be more reasonable to prepare for potential life in the future rather than expecting the globe to make enough change?
I'm really not trying to trick you into anything and sorry if it came off that way. I just speak with people daily that believe science for idea A, but not for idea B. This comes out a lot for climate change, especially. I think a lot of people (not including you in this) know that our actions are causing or exacerbating the problem, but deny it because that is easier than changing actions or they're making a whole lot of money off of the deregulations.

I could write several theses on what I want to do, but none will happen in my lifetime. Most of it is less about changing this planet and putting money into life extension and space exploration, but it's hard to get people to buy into dramatic ideas when so many question the basics. I'm with you in that I like to do my part to keep the environment beautiful, but I don't exactly go out of my way or push that idea on others.
 

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If you can't, or choose not to, see through the thin veil, I'll never be able to explain it.

He's never used the "n" word, worn a white hood or burned a cross so he's g2g, right?
So saying that some illegal immigrants coming across the border that are pedophiles and murders is probably considered racist by liberals but it’s a fact. The nation has no clue what is really going on at the border and in border towns. He’s no more racist than Obama. Liberals hate him because he says what’s on his mind and what the majority of the country thinks.
 
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So saying that some illegal immigrants coming across the border that are pedophiles and murders is probably considered racist by liberals but it’s a fact. The nation has no clue what is really going on at the border and in border towns. He’s no more racist than Obama. Liberals hate him because he says what’s on his mind and what the majority of the country thinks.
In his big speech he never said "some" he said "they" over and over again if I remember correctly. It didnt bother me because I understood the context he was referring to so it didnt bother me, but he does a shytty job relaying his message and its easily taken into a different context.

If anything, the real ignorance was claiming Mexico is going to pay for the wall, which is a insult/attack on Mexican nationals as most Mexicans have nothing to do with the border crisis and innocent people have to pay for something (only the tax payers can pay for it, the government has nothing to give) another nation wants. Its not racist, no but your going to get alot of blowback with American hate when it hurts peoples pockets and will certainly have some people become racists and then countered from the other side with more racism when they hear anti-American slogans fueling division from both sides including here domestically where people have families at home in Mexico.
 
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