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Blast: Trestolone Acetate + Testosterone + Superdrol + LGD / Hairygrandpa blowing up!

Newth said:
Does anyone have an idea how to handle high-ish dosing magnesium throughout the day while intermittent fasting?

To be honest, I'm to scared to fart atm.
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There is trans dermal magnesium.
Why do you need high doses of magnesium? I would use a moderate dose with glycerol, that's it.
 
Newth said:
Magnesium deficiency.
I've been getting it through winter for a few years now.
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Hyperhydration (sugar,salt,water, glycerol + magnesium) should do the trick.
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hairygrandpa said:
Hyperhydration (sugar,salt,water, glycerol + magnesium) should do the trick.
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Cheers.
I'm definitely getting some TD magnesium.
I'm using a powder atm with mag citrate and mag glycinate.
I need this sorted ASAP.
 
Newth said:
Magnesium deficiency.
I've been getting it through winter for a few years now.
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Take it year round, the largest amount you can tolerate, and your deficiency should level off. But you can only get your body to absorb so much at once so it’s not like you can down a bottle of mag ****rate and be g2g - this problem took time to develop after all.

Never used a transdermal consistently so no help there, but I take a Swanson blend of 400mg twice per day (800 total) and have no issues. 1,200 consistently and I will start shipping my pants.
 
That sounds like a fun workout, I love hitting shoulders! Traps I normally just get with deadlifts. Otherwise i get all Angry Goldberg looking...

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Hyde said:
Take it year round, the largest amount you can tolerate, and your deficiency should level off. But you can only get your body to absorb so much at once so it’s not like you can down a bottle of mag ****rate and be g2g - this problem took time to develop after all.

Never used a transdermal consistently so no help there, but I take a Swanson blend of 400mg twice per day (800 total) and have no issues. 1,200 consistently and I will start shipping my pants.
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I use about 1000mg daily of mine and it has some Vit B in there too.
 
Hyde said:
Take it year round, the largest amount you can tolerate, and your deficiency should level off. But you can only get your body to absorb so much at once so it’s not like you can down a bottle of mag ****rate and be g2g - this problem took time to develop after all.

Never used a transdermal consistently so no help there, but I take a Swanson blend of 400mg twice per day (800 total) and have no issues. 1,200 consistently and I will start shipping my pants.
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I've been taking 300mg daily for nearly a year now.
The last 2 weeks symptoms came back again.
It seems to show during winter. This is the third year, I wasn't expecting it this year after supplementing and adding pink salt to my water while keeping water intake higher than usual for winter.
Spacing caps out though the day is working for now but my guts are hating on it.
I'm starting to think it's more than just magnesium causing it.
 
"Release the Beast" Arms day.

small Triceps Circuit:
Dips,V handle push down, cable overhead extensions / no pauses

Dip: 42
V-handle: 110lbs x11
overhead 70lbs x14
Dip: 24
V-handle: 110lbs x7
overhead 80lbs x8
Dip: 13
V-handle: 110lbs x6
overhead 80lbs x6

Big biceps circuit
DB concentration curls, ez-bar curls, straight bar reverse curls, incline DB curls / no pauses

concentration: 55lbs x11
ez 55lbs x32
straight 45lbs x22
incline 2x 30lbs x12
3 min pause and backwards:
incline 2x 30lbs x36
straight 45lbs x13
ez 55lbs x20
concentration: 55lbs x3

Big triceps circuit
BW triceps extensions horiz. bar, ez-bar overhead ext., DB floor extens, one arm DB kick back/ no pauses

BW:12
overhead 55lbs: 36
floor 2x 20lbs x28
kickback 15lbs x13
3 min pause and backwards:
kickback 15lbs x23
floor 2x 20lbs x19
overhead 55lbs: 18
BW: x0 - pause 1 minute - x7

smith drag curls
130lbs x8
drop
90lbs x 9
drop
65lbs x10


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hairygrandpa said:
"Release the Beast" Arms day.

small Triceps Circuit:
Dips,V handle push down, cable overhead extensions / no pauses

Dip: 42
V-handle: 110lbs x11
overhead 70lbs x14
Dip: 24
V-handle: 110lbs x7
overhead 80lbs x8
Dip: 13
V-handle: 110lbs x6
overhead 80lbs x6

Big biceps circuit
DB concentration curls, ez-bar curls, straight bar reverse curls, incline DB curls / no pauses

concentration: 55lbs x11
ez 55lbs x32
straight 45lbs x22
incline 2x 30lbs x12
3 min pause and backwards:
incline 2x 30lbs x36
straight 45lbs x13
ez 55lbs x20
concentration: 55lbs x3

Big triceps circuit
BW triceps extensions horiz. bar, ez-bar overhead ext., DB floor extens, one arm DB kick back/ no pauses

BW:12
overhead 55lbs: 36
floor 2x 20lbs x28
kickback 15lbs x13
3 min pause and backwards:
kickback 15lbs x23
floor 2x 20lbs x19
overhead 55lbs: 18
BW: x0 - pause 1 minute - x7

smith drag curls
130lbs x8
drop
90lbs x 9
drop
65lbs x10


-DEAD-

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From the Pic. Looks like you lost some weight HGP
 
Looking Much Better!!
 
Newth said:
I've been taking 300mg daily for nearly a year now.
The last 2 weeks symptoms came back again.
It seems to show during winter. This is the third year, I wasn't expecting it this year after supplementing and adding pink salt to my water while keeping water intake higher than usual for winter.
Spacing caps out though the day is working for now but my guts are hating on it.
I'm starting to think it's more than just magnesium causing it.
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You might consider seeing a specialist. How much are you taking now?
 
Stay away from magnesium oxide. Poor absorption and will just make you ****. I like innovix brand magnesium. 0 issues.
 
Hyde said:
You might consider seeing a specialist. How much are you taking now?
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This is the first time simple supplementing hasn't worked quickly.
I've been taking around 1g a day, my guts can't take more.
Last night I drunk half a bottle of vodka and other than drying me out it had no effect.
I'm going to stop intermittent fasting so I can supplement with food and do HGP's hydration trick this week and see how that goes.
If I'm still having issues after that a doctors visit is looking like the answer.
 
Newth said:
This is the first time simple supplementing hasn't worked quickly.
I've been taking around 1g a day, my guts can't take more.
Last night I drunk half a bottle of vodka and other than drying me out it had no effect.
I'm going to stop intermittent fasting so I can supplement with food and do HGP's hydration trick this week and see how that goes.
If I'm still having issues after that a doctors visit is looking like the answer.
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Here what I use intra workout:
-shaker with 500ml
-water
-magnesium glycinate (0.5 teaspoon)
-zink gluconate(0.25 teaspoon)
-taurine (1-2.5gr)
-nac 1-2gr
-3 caps potassium (opening it) total 300mg
-3 teaspoon sugar
-1 table spoon vegetable glycerin
-1 pouch alacer electromix

No more cramps, twitching, back pumps.

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hairygrandpa said:
Here what I use intra workout:
-shaker with 500ml
-water
-magnesium glycinate (0.5 teaspoon)
-zink gluconate(0.25 teaspoon)
-taurine (1-2.5gr)
-nac 1-2gr
-3 caps potassium (opening it) total 300mg
-3 teaspoon sugar
-1 table spoon vegetable glycerin
-1 pouch alacer electromix

No more cramps, twitching, back pumps.

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Thanks, it sounds like you've put some effort into this.
I've found an electrolyte powder similar to yours and I'm trying this out starting tomorrow morning.
Funny thing is, today I've had no issues at all and haven't even taken magnesium, maybe just withdrawals from drinking being covered up by magnesium. I've been close to cold turkey for a nearly month now.
 
Newth said:
Thanks, it sounds like you've put some effort into this.
I've found an electrolyte powder similar to yours and I'm trying this out starting tomorrow morning.
Funny thing is, today I've had no issues at all and haven't even taken magnesium, maybe just withdrawals from drinking being covered up by magnesium. I've been close to cold turkey for a nearly month now.
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The NAC I use only when off of orals. There are studies showing it causes harm when intoxicated -but prevent harm BEFORE inducing toxines.
I also mix in Creatine if I feel like it.
 
Today I played billiard with a friend at my house. I used NAC before the encounter to curb alcohol effect on the liver.
Tudca is too expensive, even for me (at suggested dosage of 1-2 gr). I use milk thistle and NAC -but keeping the "rules" (NAC before intoxication -never on cycle with orals, as it could aggravate liver damage)
 
hairygrandpa said:
The NAC I use only when off of orals. There are studies showing it causes harm when intoxicated -but prevent harm BEFORE inducing toxines.
I also mix in Creatine if I feel like it.
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Not NAC. NAC is great whenever. It's tudca you dont want to take with drinking.
 
rtmilburn said:
Not NAC. NAC is great whenever. It's tudca you dont want to take with drinking.
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Sorry buddy. NAC only BEFORE intoxicating. Tudca while- or after. Look up the studies.

I'm sure 100%. Will cost time finding the studies, take my word for it.
 
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Pretreatment with NAC prevent from acute ethanol-induced liver damage via counteracting ethanol-induced oxidative stress. When administered after ethanol, NAC might behave as a pro-oxidant and aggravate acute ethanol-induced liver damage.
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^^^^ The above study is the reason I don't take NAC on oral cycles, extrapolating the alcohol/damage to methylated oral/damage.

Would you agree , rtmilburn?
 
Whisky said:
Now that is interesting. On that basis it would seem that tudca on and nac inbetween cycles is the best option......
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I would stay away from products that have both ingredients, unless you are living healthy. One is taken before toxins, the other after.

I go even as far as to say, posted blood labs with high ALT/AST, are partly due to use of NAC on oral cycles. Due to half life of the orals, there is no way to take NAC safely, as toxins are always present.

I switched a while ago from "supplement abuser" to almost no supps. Interaction between all that stuff makes it unpredictable. My staples now are foremost minerals and protein, nothing else.
 
hairygrandpa said:
I would stay away from products that have both ingredients, unless you are living healthy. One is taken before toxins, the other after.

I go even as far as to say, posted blood labs with high ALT/AST, are partly due to use of NAC on oral cycles. Due to half life of the orals, there is no way to take NAC safely, as toxins are always present.

I switched a while ago from "supplement abuser" to almost no supps. Interaction between all that stuff makes it unpredictable. My staples now are foremost minerals and protein, nothing else.
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Sorry HG, may be my phasing but I was saying to take TUDCA whilst on cycle (running orals) and take NAC separately but inbetween cycles to ensure full liver health....?
 
hairygrandpa said:
^^^^ The above study is the reason I don't take NAC on oral cycles, extrapolating the alcohol/damage to methylated oral/damage.

Would you agree , rtmilburn?
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I would absolutely disagree. Apples to oranges. NAC on cycle makes a positive difference. I don’t drink so I don’t care about what alcohol does
 
Whisky said:
Sorry HG, may be my phasing but I was saying to take TUDCA whilst on cycle (running orals) and take NAC separately but inbetween cycles to ensure full liver health....?
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That seems to be correct!
 
Hyde said:
I would absolutely disagree. Apples to oranges. NAC on cycle makes a positive difference. I don’t drink so I don’t care about what alcohol does
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Absolutely? What makes you so sure? You may be right, I recon -but personally, I don't gamble.
 
Hyde said:
I would absolutely disagree. Apples to oranges. NAC on cycle makes a positive difference. I don’t drink so I don’t care about what alcohol does
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Since we are apparently lacking studies including methylated oral steroids and NAC, I searched a bit around to see if NAC generally causes adverse hepatic reactions when ingested with other poisons than alcohol.

Here a study on paracetamol (Acetaminophen Poisoning) and NAC.
Acetaminophen (known as paracetamol outside the United States) is a commonly used analgesic and antipyretic agent, and its use is one of the most common causes of poisoning worldwide.1 According to poison centers in the United States, acetaminophen poisoning was responsible for more than 70,000 visits to health care facilities and approximately 300 deaths in 2005.
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This study may give Hyde credit, as NAC was administered together with paracetamol and did apparently NOT affect the liver adversely as it would with alcohol.

So "apple to oranges" is a valid point.
I hate the "absolutely part" though, as there are no scientific absolutes -and we don't have required studies to either proof -or disproof NAC's effectiveness in conjunction with methylated orals.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Absolutely? What makes you so sure? You may be right, I recon -but personally, I don't gamble.
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Who’s gambling? Not me - I have seen my blood work before implementing it and TUDCA on cycle and after. I encourage you to view your own before settling on an apples to oranges postulation. Alcohol is not oral anabolic steroids.
 
Hyde said:
Who’s gambling? Not me - I have seen my blood work before implementing it and TUDCA on cycle and after. I encourage you to view your own before settling on an apples to oranges postulation. Alcohol is not oral anabolic steroids.
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Look at my last post, I already found something that proofed your point to a degree.
 
Very interesting to know about not drinking with NAC tho - probably useful for many on here honestly. Example A: guy on cycle taking NAC knows he has a drinking function that evening and doubles up on his NAC - for extra protection. But that study shows that’s the worst thing a guy could do. So it’s not useless.

But I would use NAC in general when taking orals, alcohol aside.
 
Hyde said:
Very interesting to know about not drinking with NAC tho - probably useful for many on here honestly. Example A: guy on cycle taking NAC knows he has a drinking function that evening and doubles up on his NAC - for extra protection. But that study shows that’s the worst thing a guy could do. So it’s not useless.

But I would use NAC in general when taking orals, alcohol aside.
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We take for granted what is repeated over -and over, until someone challenges it. Not being "right" in my assertions does not worry me. I welcome anyone to discuss anything.
 
Hyde said:
Very interesting to know about not drinking with NAC tho - probably useful for many on here honestly. Example A: guy on cycle taking NAC knows he has a drinking function that evening and doubles up on his NAC - for extra protection. But that study shows that’s the worst thing a guy could do. So it’s not useless.

But I would use NAC in general when taking orals, alcohol aside.
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Being an on and off drinker over the years it is good to hear.
Especially since noticing some around here don't stop while cycling.
 
Cycle update

Yesterday was my last shot of trest-ace. Liver values should be normal again, last t-bol usage was 2 weeks ago.
Cycle is over. Learned a lot this time, especially how to handle trest appropriately. Now I'm waiting for the bloat to subside and get a glimpse of what's underneath.

Starting my cruise today by pre-loading 400mg test/e.
Cruise will be: 200mg test/e per week and 20mg/d anavar, for at least 8 weeks.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Cycle update

Yesterday was my last shot of trest-ace. Liver values should be normal again, last t-bol usage was 2 weeks ago.
Cycle is over. Learned a lot this time, especially how to handle trest appropriately. Now I'm waiting for the bloat to subside and get a glimpse of what's underneath.

Starting my cruise today by pre-loading 400mg test/e.
Cruise will be: 200mg test/e per week and 20mg/d anavar, for at least 8 weeks.
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Good to see you got the trest sorted, you definitely put in the effort.

Waiting patiently to see how you've gone...so hurry up and drop the water, the waiting is killing me.
 
Lots of good info being shared in here. Looking forward to seeing the changes as the water subsides. Since you have been on low carb you really shouldn't be holding too much even with the trest but a couple lbs can make a huge difference in how you look.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Cycle update

Yesterday was my last shot of trest-ace. Liver values should be normal again, last t-bol usage was 2 weeks ago.
Cycle is over. Learned a lot this time, especially how to handle trest appropriately. Now I'm waiting for the bloat to subside and get a glimpse of what's underneath.

Starting my cruise today by pre-loading 400mg test/e.
Cruise will be: 200mg test/e per week and 20mg/d anavar, for at least 8 weeks.
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Took forever (well about 4 weeks) for the water to drop off my td trest.....and I’m always relatively low carb......
 
Whisky said:
Took forever (well about 4 weeks) for the water to drop off my td trest.....and I’m always relatively low carb......
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Didn't you also increase your MK-677 while on this run? I feel like that would be the more likely culprit of the water taking that long to come off. My trest water seemed to be gone inside of a week or so. However when i ran MK it took about a month for the extra water to come off after I stopped it. I will never use it during a cut again. It took too long to drop the water after stopping it. Now during a bulk or just to get some healing going that is another thing.
 
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