FOLLIDRONE 2.0 FAQ Updated follidrone writeup and info***
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brundel
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It's not necessarily libido. It's erecting strength.
This goes for viagra as well. Doesn't do anything for libido.
Libido is a complex thing involving hormones, neurotransmitters etc. Post cycle it is frequently poor. Recovering hormones is primary but follidrone will help with erection.
x_danny_x
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so my hormones are out of wacked then which is causing me to get some erectile dysfunction? what about VECTOR to help with this?? was taking RAD 140....i know it could suppress me but did a PCT. i guess it sucks to be me. i do take Adderall as well. i have been hearing that it cause some erectile dysfunction while others have said no. so i am bit mixed.
bigsmall
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Did you use a proper SERM for PCT - in order to restore your hormonal balance? If not, get Clomid and do your PCT - you will very most likely be fine. SUP3R or anything else OTC is not going to help you in this department.
Dani93
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I would like to run for my first time FD 2.0 so i have a question for those of u who have tried FD 2.0. Entering in a cut phase would like to know some reviews about the results,the feelings this product gave to u...and how stay with calories...i mean keep a decifit or stay close to my maintenance ?
00A
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Is there any new products on market that tried to clone follidrone?
x_danny_x
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so SARMS then force you use the real stuff then. then I am thinking of getting Ralofixine and Toremifene Citrate. are they good enough? seems i have to put VECTOR on hold.
bigsmall
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Yes, you are experiencing shutdown - Toremifene will work fine too. I just prefer Clomid.
Without using a SERM you will probably eventually recover - if you do or how long that takes ( a year or more is not known).
Finish your cycle with a SERM - get healthy and then get Vector.
bigsmall
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Their are a slew of products that came out post Folidrone 1.0 containing Epicatechin and still keep coming out. Although Folidrone was not the absolute first to contain Epicatechin - Black Lion Research's Folidrone formula worked better imo - due to other ingredients, the extraction methods and quality. imo, Ep1logue by Olympus Labs is Folidrone 2.0's closest competitor.
x_danny_x
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Excellent boss thank you!!!
brundel
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My thoughts on the matter=
Stimulants can cause erectile issues for sure but not always.
What did you use for PCT? Many of todays PCT supplements have antiandrogens and things that block DHT which is a recipe for limp weenie.
Saw palmetto for example.
Vector is not intended to effect HPTA. It appears that it does but I wouldnt rely on it for this. Its more of a bonus. Its an exceptional natural anabolic though. Better than anything else out there currently and it cant hurt libido.
Follidrone seems to be great for erection for many users but it wont effect test levels in any way.
My suggestions-
1. Lay off the stims for a week. See if things improve.
2. Run another PCT. It seems like the one you ran was ineffective.
3. Maybe start a stack of stuff that will both work in your favor libido and sexual function wise and give you gains. The Vector, Foll, Viron stack to me is very similar to a mild cycle. Im able to grow faster than normal, recover better, endurance and strength is great and it has no negative impacts on the test levels. IN fact Viron is a test booster, Vector appears to be pro test and foll is great for erection. WIn win.
brundel
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If your cutting just make sure to dose the Follidrone with your meals.
If your goal is to cut then I suggest just under maintenance and carb cycling. Meaning
Day 1 regular carb
Day 2 med carb
Day 3 low Carb
REPEAT
Dani93
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oook so i ll take it with my meals,my idea was to use both vector and FD 2.0 in this cutting phase...what do u suggest about vector given that i ll use follidrone with meals
x_danny_x
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Yeah already planning to do so. Going to buy Ralofixine and Toremifene Citrate. well I don't think I need to buy Ralofixine just Toremifene Citrate should be enough? thinking Ralofixine will be pointless to buy. Most likely going to add Ashagwandha and maybe Super PCT by Olympus Labs for insurance.
what is the correct dosage for Toremifene Citrate? thinking of buying it from Ceretropics.com since I know they sell the real deal.
All the research I did showing that you didnt need a PCT or just OTC products for SARMS. good thing I found this thread. didnt realize you could be suppressed for like a year if you try to recover without SERMs.
x_danny_x
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where is a reliable source for to buy Clomid? i was told (bro science i know) about most clomid products having sides. Toremifene Citrate seems to be the one that doesnt give much or if any.
bigsmall
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Cloimid can have some mild side effects for the first week or two (higher dose) - but its worth it. Both research board sponsers carry it I believe.
x_danny_x
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i see thanks. i am going to buy Raloxifene HCI to help fight existing gyno along with the Clomid. doing for 4 weeks like brundel said and going to see how it goes.
justhere4comm
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It's a proprietary blend of the following, and it is definitely dosed higher than anyone's. Then you include the other ingredients and you have a powerhouse of delivered active ingredients. Nothing comes close.
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ucheoma
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So... you can't disclose the specific dose of EC in FD2? How do we then validate the claim 'nothing comes close' if you cant disclose the specific dose?
justhere4comm
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You can load up on EC, but it's also the delivery and absorption package..
Ecklonia Cava Extract isn't cheap. Add in Flos Carthami, etc.
It's not just the EC.
ucheoma
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Now you appear to be muddying the waters. Are you saying (a) FD2 has the highest dose of EC , or (b) no, but doesnt matter due to the absorption package in FD2
bigsmall
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Actually bro, its more about quality of extract. And I know you like bro science: Its just better than everything else cause I tried them all.
justhere4comm
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Highest delivered dose. If you can’t absorb it, it doesn’t matter how much. No mud here my man.
ucheoma
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I knew I could count on you! You cleared it all up (NOT) .So now its the quality of the extract not the added absorption or the total dose?
ucheoma
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hmmm. Is there a bioavailabilty issue with EC because ive not come across this? The FD2 write up says the absorption was specifically for the epicatechin?
justhere4comm
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It has a less than 30% absorption rate on it's own, so if you buy a solo epi product then you're going to have to pay a lot more than FD2 to get the absorption package we got in it, and you may not be so happy with the amount you have to take. That's what I was getting at. I hope this helps.
Ecklonia Cava extract is it's own little miracle addition, and that stuff is not cheap to source.
ucheoma
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My original question was about EC not epicatechin. but thanks any way. You're obviously not allowed to answer this
justhere4comm
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So, so, I misunderstood your question. I thought you were asking about the epi content.
Not allowed? No man. I don't know what it is, and since it's proprietary, I would differ to brundel to field that one.
KR,
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00A
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His keeping it a proprietry blend so others do not copy, but i think these days this bull**** as everyone moving away from prop blends even big companies. FD 3 is needed
justhere4comm
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I hear you there, and open labels should be the norm with pretty much everything, but with all things there are exceptions, and I think FD2 is one of those limited ingredient exceptions. It does protect the formula, and that's truly what it is there for, not to hide the fairy dusting of actives found in so many prop blends.
Take some stimulating pre workout products. They should be open label so you know how much of what stimulant is in each serving. There's no reason to keep such things a 'secret' and protected by a prop blend label. Having 15 ingredients in a prop blend is ridiculous and rather obnoxious. It's a most disingenuous practice.
Is FD3 needed? That may be one for the books if brundel decides one day to (try) improve on that one. I think he can do it, but also know there's more in the pipeline taking his attention and falls more in line with a main theme moving forward. The man can keep a secret, and I love it.
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00A
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justhere4comm
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It's taken a bit of time and discussion to get to this point. You had 2 runs with FD2?, and your goals were? What was the favorable outcome you expected? It's a great recomp supplement. Taking EC as a single compound in what dose do you suspect would suit you better and what is your goal here?
toddmuelheim
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Im confused...if you tried FD 2.0 twice and it didn’t work for you then why would you try it again? Some things just don’t work for everyone
bigsmall
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I think he means that he took some 'secret and undisclosed EC product or products' over '2 runs' (that were not FD2). He began to toy with using FD2 (possibly due to the non stop great review for years now). But because of BLR's lack of disclosure, he is now unwilling to buy the product. However, I could be totally wrong cause this guy rarely makes any ****ing sense.
KingErgogenic
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Has anyone tried EC on it's own? I am curious to know if they subjectively felt or noticed anything.
ucheoma
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Yet again you are off the mark! I ran FD2 twice with little to no discernible effects other than what i normally experience through training, diet etc. Ive read up on the many potential benefits of EC and my working assumption is perhaps the dose of EC(ecklonia cava) in FD2 was too low to feel these benefits. Hence my question on the dose of EC in FD2. Anyway am looking at a couple of standalone EC products
bosskardo
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Maybe try just high dose EC and then later add FD2 to it. Might be an interesting comparison.
justhere4comm
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What are you looking for with just EC?
Rand0m
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I have. Hair and nails seem to grow faster but didn’t notice any strength/pump effects like on FD2. As for leaning, nothing significant in a deficit/maintenance on top of a dialed in diet, but I never noticed anything with FD2 either in that aspect.
ucheoma
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What brand and dose did you run?
ucheoma
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Health and aesthetic benefits including hair growth, and cholesterol and blood pressure reduction
Rand0m
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Ford speranza. I did 1 cap per day for a couple weeks than went to 2 which I believe is 600mg.
justhere4comm
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AdelV
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I have, but it's been a while so it's difficult to recall.
I def remember higher libido 100%
KingErgogenic
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I got my hands on the Swanson Brand, and also notice higher libido, greater mental clarity, sleep improvements and pumps.
brundel
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There is only 53mg per dose of the swanson ecklonia cava. There is 500 ish in Follidrone.
If you took this dose of the swanson you would only have 3 days worth in the bottle. Meaning you would hahve to buy 10 bottles for a months supply.
This is not a viable option.
This is the problem with most ec extracts. Either poor extract or low doses. Which is why it works so well in FD2.
Dosed properly and extracted properly.
If you took this dose of the swanson you would only have 3 days worth in the bottle. Meaning you would hahve to buy 10 bottles for a months supply.
This is not a viable option.
This is the problem with most ec extracts. Either poor extract or low doses. Which is why it works so well in FD2.
Dosed properly and extracted properly.