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Rocket, do you think you could put on some size with true shed if you were eating above maintenance?
You will always be able to gain weight if you are eating above maintenance.Rocket, do you think you could put on some size with true shed if you were eating above maintenance?
I believe this to be 100% correct !!You will always be able to gain weight if you are eating above maintenance.
I would say True Shred will help keep you lean if you trying to mass build.
i'm currently on week 6 and plan on running for another 2 weeks. havent had any issuesis it safe to run two bottles of true shed back to back? If not, what would you suggest switching to after finished with true shed?
That's great to hear! True Shred is really picking up some steam, a lot of good feedback coming in thus far.i'm currently on week 6 and plan on running for another 2 weeks. havent had any issues
love this stuff so far
Appreciate the feedback.i'm currently on week 6 and plan on running for another 2 weeks. havent had any issues
love this stuff so far
No problem !!is it safe to run two bottles of true shed back to back? If not, what would you suggest switching to after finished with true shed?
try the SUSTAIN ALPHA in pct....trust me on this!!!I really gotta try this at some point. Just so happens I bought some Dermacrine from Strong though earlier this morning..
I can definitely picture this happening!try the SUSTAIN ALPHA in pct....trust me on this!!!
even using my code you can't beat that price at STRONG-that is a very 'strong' price!!!I can definitely picture this happening!
Yes..with the current sale it is certainly something people should take advantage of!even using my code you can't beat that price at STRONG-that is a very 'strong' price!!!
yes, strong is kickingass.....Yes..with the current sale it is certainly something people should take advantage of!
yes, strong is kickingass.....
Yeah I really like transdermal products. Having children makes it a little more difficult in terms of application sites and timing but I still prefer them often times over orals.Gotta say, people are really digging transdermals.
We have had guys asking about the return of sustain for a long time and we have always had nothing but positive feedback on Dermacrine.
Quick reminder guys, this sale ends midnight tonight!
Search bar not even oncewhat is will i need to run a safe stack of 1-andro? Any suggestions for which 1-andro product to run and what to use for On-cycle/ postcycle support? Or should I just go with ostarine? It would be my first time using a prohormone or sarm so just looking for some advice/ recommended products.
Super Mandro is the go to 1-Andro, only product that gives you the full 330mg daily dose. I would actually suggest jumping on this stack as it has test base as well as cycle support:what is will i need to run a safe stack of 1-andro? Any suggestions for which 1-andro product to run and what to use for On-cycle/ postcycle support? Or should I just go with ostarine? It would be my first time using a prohormone or sarm so just looking for some advice/ recommended products.
a lot of people run dermacrine with 1-andro to combat lethargy and keep libido up.much appreciated musclemaker Although, I wanted to stay away from the 4-andro because from what i understood it converts to DHT and can attribute to hair loss etc. Is 1-andro useless to run without also running the 4-andro? I guess that is what I am a little confused about..
ME TOO!a lot of people run dermacrine with 1-andro to combat lethargy and keep libido up.
of course, I am a big fan!!!
love to hear this...I've been a fan of trandermals all the way back to the days of e-form!!!Gotta say, people are really digging transdermals.
We have had guys asking about the return of sustain for a long time and we have always had nothing but positive feedback on Dermacrine.
Most of the guys here nailed it on the head, you can absolutely use Dermacrine. Dermacrine and 4-andro products are the best test base supplements.much appreciated musclemaker Although, I wanted to stay away from the 4-andro because from what i understood it converts to DHT and can attribute to hair loss etc. Is 1-andro useless to run without also running the 4-andro? I guess that is what I am a little confused about..
I believe it has been 12 years since dermacrine came out [2006], it's been made by 3 different companies with no change to formula---it must be doing something good!!!!Most of the guys here nailed it on the head, you can absolutely use Dermacrine. Dermacrine and 4-andro products are the best test base supplements.
Nothing but positive feedback on Dermacrine: https://www.strongsupplementshop.com/dermacrine-by-iconic-formulations
E-Form!love to hear this...I've been a fan of trandermals all the way back to the days of e-form!!!
I would add something to help combat lethargy that is often associated with 1-andro. Yes it can technically be “bonus” but the whole purpose of adding would be to make sure you feel good on cycle to maximize performance. Nothing worse than feeling sluggish and run down on cycle. You can pick from 4-andro, Epi-andro, or dermacrine. Any of those options should be sufficient and keep you feeling good and the gains will come!So 1-Andro is effective without the 4-andro? So I would need 1-andro, on-cycle support, pct and dermacrine would be a bonus if it was in the budget?
Its not that it doesnt do much alone its more because whem you take it alone the lethargy will kick your assThank you, from what i have researched that 4-andro and epi-andro converts to estrogen and can be nasty on the hairline... I was mostly interested in the 1-andro for the minimal sides. Although i have seen a lot of people say its almost not worth it and doesn't do much alone? i.e. without adding the 4 or epi.
So the best way to combat this would be dermacrine? or is there something more efficient?Its not that it doesnt do much alone its more because whem you take it alone the lethargy will kick your ass
Epi-andro doesn't convert to estro, it converts to DHT, which is somewhat anti-estrogenic. 1-andro actually has lethaegy sides, which is why supplementing with 4AD and Epi-andro is so common.Thank you, from what i have researched that 4-andro and epi-andro converts to estrogen and can be nasty on the hairline... I was mostly interested in the 1-andro for the minimal sides. Although i have seen a lot of people say its almost not worth it and doesn't do much alone? i.e. without adding the 4 or epi.
And the DHT is the culprit of the hair issue... which is what I was trying to stay away from, which is why 1-andro seemed the best option. So I am trying to figure out the best way to run that solo and combat the lethargy...Epi-andro doesn't convert to estro, it converts to DHT, which is somewhat anti-estrogenic. 1-andro actually has lethaegy sides, which is why supplementing with 4AD and Epi-andro is so common.
When you are saying 4-Andro converts to DHT that comes from 4-Andro converting to testosterone, and testosterone converts to DHT.And the DHT is the culprit of the hair issue... which is what I was trying to stay away from, which is why 1-andro seemed the best option. So I am trying to figure out the best way to run that solo and combat the lethargy...
another vote for dermacrine here!!!When you are saying 4-Andro converts to DHT that comes from 4-Andro converting to testosterone, and testosterone converts to DHT.
I have never really heard of anyone experiencing hair loss from 4-andro but I am not going to say it is not possible. Again, I think your safest bet is Dermacrine.
Agreed with this. Your best best is going to be dermacrine.When you are saying 4-Andro converts to DHT that comes from 4-Andro converting to testosterone, and testosterone converts to DHT.
I have never really heard of anyone experiencing hair loss from 4-andro but I am not going to say it is not possible. Again, I think your safest bet is Dermacrine.
lots of love here for dermacrine!!!Agreed with this. Your best best is going to be dermacrine.
Slippery handsAny sides with dermacrine to be aware of?
That can be a good thing!Slippery hands
you should be good to go...Any sides with dermacrine to be aware of?
Or any of us on the strong team as well.you should be good to go...
if you have any questions feel free to pm me!!!
No, unless you put it on your balls...you will get a slight tingle/burning sensation.Any sides with dermacrine to be aware of?
I have a lot of different people saying different things about the super mandro cycle I wanted to run. I was planning on using super mandro, protex for oncycle support and dermacrine as a test base. I also planned on using post cycle 3x by vital labs for PCT. The following is the advice that is throwing me off:Or any of us on the strong team as well.
thebigt knows his stuff too![]()
did you run the 1-andro solo with the dermacrine as test base? how long?Basically it comes down to what sides you’re willing to accept. This doesn’t mean they will come but there is always a risk.
I am prone to male pattern baldness and have never had an issue with epiandro.
I am not prone to gyno and never had an issue with 4-andro.
I have ran 1 andro with dermacrine and it was a sufficient test base. There were a few tired days but overall I was pleased.
I have ran an andro cycle without a serm and recovered but don’t have blood work to show the extent. We can’t recommend you (legally) to get a serm but it can definitely help speed up the recovery process. You can run them alongside an otc product.
There is also blood work with otc pct like rebirth from black lion on this forum with Labs if you want to look it up.
A lot of what you’re doing is user dependent and will require trial and error on your part. I will say that if you’re looking to dabble in prohormones the andros are going to be the “easiest” by far. If you don’t want to run the risk, however small it may be, then perhaps you should look at some of the newer natty products like ep1logue and vector.
Yes and I think it was 6 weeks iirc. Might have been 8. Getting old loldid you run the 1-andro solo with the dermacrine as test base? how long?