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VECTOR pre release leaks and info

blurryimage said:
I have been lethargic, but I’m doing a recomp/cut so I’m guessing it’s the low calories.
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Many times we blame supps giving sides etc. But most of those sides are not due to new supp but life changes. Diets, workout routine, less sleep,stress ++++++
 
Danes said:
I dont have huge expectations because I have tried all 3 ingredients found in Vector at pretty high doses. Example, I used to run 5g Eriobotrya Japonica as an example.

But never combined those 3 ingredients so we will see :)
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I won't even ask the cost of those ingredients, lol....
 
a case? Of pains in both testicles ... difficulty urinating ... urine gradually ... dry mouth often during the day.
 
nicksox15 said:
That’s awesome you’re not getting that hypo feeling. The hunger will come, believe that! What are your daily cals at currently?
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I have started my second bottle recently and I have never experienced increased hunger or went hypo. So I am not sure that everybody will feel it. Unless he mixed some mk 677 or so into his caps :D
 
rowz4broz said:
Any idea why?
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well, it could be some are hyper sensitive to the uptick in anabolism. my experience on the subject is related to androgens, and most of them will cause lethargy at a given dose. I am not exactly sure of the reason behind this, tho I seen some speculation. I kind of make the anaology of the barrel on a gun. when you get a barrel hot it looses its accuracy must be cooled off to regain its tacticle prowess... it could be that by taking substances that make our metabolic machinery work overtime, we are priming the barrel so to speak.
we tend to push harder in the gym too when we are on cycle.. this among other things could be a culmination of processes coming together leading to one's body demanding you rest. literally screaming "sleep now"
at any rate I think it could be placebo seeing as its only happened a couple times now.
 
Danes said:
Many times we blame supps giving sides etc. But most of those sides are not due to new supp but life changes. Diets, workout routine, less sleep,stress ++++++
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I concur, but I am on a strict diet/training program/ and sleep schedule. All of which was in place since January. Only change is I added vector.
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
this will be the 3rd person ive seen mention getting a little lethargy...
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Been quite a few - I have been following all threads / logs. Most seem to have it go away after about 2 weeks - in line with when hunger seems to get under control. For me, dosing 2-3 caps at once was too much on my system no matter how much food and water I threw at it. Switching to 1 cap dosing solved the issue.
 
rowz4broz said:
Any idea why?
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It has something to do with sedation and some of ingredients in Vector may give sedative effect such as Eriobotrya Japonica.
A friend of mine cant handle KSM66(ashwagandha) even at 300mg daily. He feel lethargic whole day no matter when he take it.

Personaly I have tried 5g Eriobotrya Japonica without any sides nor sedative effects while other felt sedative effect with lower dose.
 
7 days in and here's my feedback so far:

Strength: up especially noticeable during leg workout which is my fav part to train.
Size - no added size so far.
Mood - slightly better than usual.
Sleep - huge improvement, vivid dreams, getting up fresh in the morning.
Acne - yeah noticeable issue.
Libido - boners, boners, boners lol
Endurance- i was taking it easy this past week at the gym. Usually train till failure with drop sets and rest pauses in most of exercises so not really have anything to record here. But this coming week gonna be hardcore so I'll be able to say more if it comes to endurance.
Weight- despite upping my calories i lost 2cm round my waist and 1kg of weight.
I look leaner which to me is interesting.
Overall - I'm very sceptical if it comes to supplements but i must say that Vector seems to work..... I'm planning to do 12 weeks cycle with 6-7 weeks bulk and 4-5 cut.
 
Danes said:
It has something to do with sedation and some of ingredients in Vector may give sedative effect such as Eriobotrya Japonica.
A friend of mine cant handle KSM66(ashwagandha) even at 300mg daily. He feel lethargic whole day no matter when he take it.

Personaly I have tried 5g Eriobotrya Japonica without any sides nor sedative effects while other felt sedative effect with lower dose.
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It’s funny you mention that about ksm66. I had the same conversation with someone about that yesterday. I tried ash a few months ago and dealt with the same issues. Just lethargy all day regardless of dosing am or pm. Crazy how different compounds effect people.
 
Danes said:
I dont have huge expectations because I have tried all 3 ingredients found in Vector at pretty high doses. Example, I used to run 5g Eriobotrya Japonica as an example.

But never combined those 3 ingredients so we will see :)
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Danes I really have no intention of trying vector....but depending on your review I could be persuaded to change my mind.
 
toddmuelheim said:
It’s funny you mention that about ksm66. I had the same conversation with someone about that yesterday. I tried ash a few months ago and dealt with the same issues. Just lethargy all day regardless of dosing am or pm. Crazy how different compounds effect people.
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Definitely :)
 
GoofyKai said:
Just finished my first month of Vector. Two month run planned.

21 year old black male.
4 years consistent traing history.
Manual labor work

Diet: Steak, rice, avocado, bananas, kimchi, eggs and water.

Other supps, Joint defender, vitamin D.

The most prominent effects for me have been increased muscle fullness and increased work capacity. I absolutely love the increased work capacity. I can knock out heavy squats quickly. My speed under the bar is way up during speed training. This is so critical for me and should be for all athletes.

No acne increase, no sleep issues, no libido changes, no improved sense of well being, no acute pump benefits, no cold symptoms.

Since 03/16 i have gained a solid 6lbs of mass. Bf% hasnt changed. Sitting at nearly 9%.

Vector is great. Really diggin' it. Smells like curry or something lol, just wish it tastes as good as it smells. Thank you for your ingenious creation brundel and the whole BLR Team!
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I took vector only with meals! It just didnt make sense to me to not take it with meals if its a nutrient repartitioning agent.
 
GoofyKai said:
Just finished my first month of Vector.

21 year old black male.
4 years consistent traing history.
Manual labor work

Diet: Steak, rice, avocado, bananas, kimchi, eggs and water.

Other supps, Joint defender, vitamin D.

The most prominent effects for me have been increased muscle fullness and increased work capacity. I absolutely love the increased work capacity. I can knock out heavy squats quickly. My speed under the bar is way up during speed training. This is so critical for me and should be for all athletes.

No acne increase, no sleep issues, no libido changes, no improved sense of well being, no acute pump benefits, no cold symptoms.

Since 03/16 i have gained a solid 6lbs of mass. Bf% hasnt changed. Sitting at nearly 9%.

Vector is great. Really diggin' it. Smells like curry or something lol, just wish it tastes as good as it smells. Thank you for your ingenious creation brundel and the whole BLR Team!
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I guess one could say this is the proof some have sought.
Vector. Kind of a big deal.

Thank you for your review!
 
I'm currently doing the following stack:
1 month ep1logic, Mstack, slinmax
vector I now take a week with this stack and feel a clear difference!
am working on recomp.
with vector more energy, better and quicker pump quicker recovery
 
Stefr said:
I'm currently doing the following stack:
1 month ep1logic, Mstack, slinmax
vector I now take a week with this stack and feel a clear difference!
am working on recomp.
with vector more energy, better and quicker pump quicker recovery
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Wait. You take all those supps together and you feel difference ?
Or you have been on those supps 1 month but last week added vector?

I will not bash Vector or anything but this is not logical at all.
If I understand you right,you have been on Ep1logue,Mstack and slinmax 1 month and then added Vector. So after just 1 week you feel difference with Vector (pump etc).
How do you know its Vector kicking in after just one week and not the Ep1logue or other products kicking in fully after 1 month of use.

Excitement and placebo are powerful things :D
 
Just took:

3 Vector
1 Slintensity
2 Defuse
3 bong rips

About to hit the endless breakfast.

EDIT: And 25 cent mimosas
 
Danes said:
Wait. You take all those supps together and you feel difference ?
Or you have been on those supps 1 month but last week added vector?

I will not bash Vector or anything but this is not logical at all.
If I understand you right,you have been on Ep1logue,Mstack and slinmax 1 month and then added Vector. So after just 1 week you feel difference with Vector (pump etc).
How do you know its Vector kicking in after just one week and not the Ep1logue or other products kicking in fully after 1 month of use.

Excitement and placebo are powerful things :D
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Ep1logue,Mstack and slinmax 1 kick in after 2 weeks . Strengt up, leaner. Now after 1 week vector more pump,.... so it is vector and not the other thinks
 
Stefr said:
Ep1logue,Mstack and slinmax 1 kick in after 2 weeks . Strengt up, leaner. Now after 1 week vector more pump,.... so it is vector and not the other thinks
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So no better pumps with Ep1logue where its VASO6? I really dont get it sorry :)
 
I don't know how anyone else feels about bringing up other brands products in a company sub forum. It doesn't bother me, but I do recall being swatted in another sub forum for doing it. So, I don't.

What's the etiquette again?
 
justhere4comm said:
I don't know how anyone else feels about bringing up other brands products in a company sub forum. It doesn't bother me, but I do recall being swatted in another sub forum for doing it. So, I don't.

What's the etiquette again?
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Didnt mean to bring it up. It wasnt meant as advertising either. Will not happen again :)
 
All right!
No problem with sleep ... I blamed Invictus.
Better to take Invictus away from the bed.

No problem with diarrhea, Vector I take it after meals.
 
Danes said:
Didnt mean to bring it up. It wasnt meant as advertising either. Will not happen again :)
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My man, I wasn't directing it towards anyone in particular, but you're such a polite person of course your response is welcome and appreciated.
 
I still love that the picture on this thread is Randy from South Park with jizz all over himself
 
I am just past week three on Vector (been on FD2 forever now as well) and most of what I've experienced has been good, however I broke out in what looks like some type of rash across my whole right side of my chest, lat and across my back and wondering if this could be from Vector? I have not changed anything recently.

I know some have gotten some acne and at first when a few patches appeared on my chest, I though it may have been that but it is obviously not. I've never had anything like this before and it's freakin weird.

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travbedaman said:
I am just past week three on Vector (been on FD2 forever now as well) and most of what I've experienced has been good, however I broke out in what looks like some type of rash across my whole right side of my chest, lat and across my back and wondering if this could be from Vector? I have not changed anything recently.

I know some have gotten some acne and at first when a few patches appeared on my chest, I though it may have been that but it is obviously not. I've never had anything like this before and it's freakin weird.

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Looks like an allergic reaction my dude. My acne just increased overall whiteheads and blackheads, nothing like that.
Did you change detergents recently? I'm super allergic to Sun it makes me break out in quarter sized welts
 
travbedaman said:
I am just past week three on Vector (been on FD2 forever now as well) and most of what I've experienced has been good, however I broke out in what looks like some type of rash across my whole right side of my chest, lat and across my back and wondering if this could be from Vector? I have not changed anything recently.

I know some have gotten some acne and at first when a few patches appeared on my chest, I though it may have been that but it is obviously not. I've never had anything like this before and it's freakin weird.

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I personaly doubt this has anything to do with Vector. Reaction to herbs/plants comes pretty fast and not after couple of weeks :)

Does it itch etc?
 
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