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VECTOR pre release leaks and info

I’ve gotten a better handle on the increased eating. It’s more of a mental thing for me - I just tell myself after I’ve eaten a good sized meal that if I still have the munchies it’s the Vector that’s giving me that sensation and I very likely am not still hungry. I then opt for fruit or something smaller just to satisfy my food craving. I stopped adding weight and have lost a pound in my 2nd week on vector which is the direction I want to go. Perhaps the leaning out phase is beginning now?
 
bonbon said:
I will run this 4 weeks stacked with massmax xt. First week on deficit followed by 3-week bulk. Starting next week.
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I guess this is the first time you run Vector.
Running it with Massmax, you will not know what product did what..
 
Ricky10 said:
Yeah...I have been keeping up with it daily, but it is still not where I need it to be. I am going to have to order another bottle and probably add in some TB-500. My snow leopard is getting very frustrated...

Summer is coming and he wants to get ripped!
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Are you having any kind of soft tissue work done on the elbow? It seems that one of the keys to getting over long term tendon injuries is regular soft tissue work to break up any scar tissue/adhesions, and to initiate a healing response in the injured area.
 
max silver said:
Are you having any kind of soft tissue work done on the elbow? It seems that one of the keys to getting over long term tendon injuries is regular soft tissue work to break up any scar tissue/adhesions, and to initiate a healing response in the injured area.
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Haha...that’s funny because I just got done doing it to myself!
I found a video on YouTube :)

I even gave myself a happy ending after the massage was over!

I mean my snow leopard..
 
I ordered a rolflex to use for self massage, I considered an arm-aid, but that was pretty specific to arm use only, so the rolflex made more sense to me.

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max silver said:
Hopefully not using the arm with the injured elbow! :poke:
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Unfortunately, that is my go to hand. Otherwise, it kind of feels like someone else is doing it and lord knows where that hand has been...
max silver said:
I ordered a rolflex to use for self massage, I considered an arm-aid, but that was pretty specific to arm use only, so the rolflex made more sense to me.

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Yes...I can see how that could be useful!
 
Today 2 times diarrhea.
First day of Vector. Taken before meals together with folli2.
We will see tomorrow.
 
Kaiyas_daddy said:
Yes, not sure about the details but I remember 1fast400 forums closed and redirected everyone to here. So not sure about admin and ownership, but there was some sort of affiliation during the transition.
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Not many folks left here that were part of the 1Fast400 days. Avant Labs was all the rage back then. Dsade from Evomuse was part of that crew. Anyone remember Custom Nutrition Warehouse?
 
unitas27 said:
Not many folks left here that were part of the 1Fast400 days. Avant Labs was all the rage back then. Dsade from Evomuse was part of that crew. Anyone remember Custom Nutrition Warehouse?
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I remember. I tried it all...lol. You plan on running Vector?..feedback seem pretty damn good so far.
 
Cordeen said:
I remember. I tried it all...lol. You plan on running Vector?..feedback seem pretty damn good so far.
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I am running it now, but I'm also on TRT test-e 200mg/week and dienolone 400mg cycle. Can't say I notice much other than some GDA effects which is a worthwhile benefit. Having some sleep issues but still pushing hard at the gym.
 
bb333 said:
Today 2 times diarrhea.
First day of Vector. Taken before meals together with folli2.
We will see tomorrow.
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My stoolage has been a little more loose since starting Vector. Not diarrhea per say...just you know. Sometimes I have found myself having to go with more urgency than usual as well. It has not been all that problematic though, and other supplements have treated me much worse in this regard.

Oh, so I broke down and opened my second bottle of Vector. I can still benefit from the GDA and fat loss properties, positive mood, and the increased VEGF signaling should only help my elbow! The things I can still do in the gym will be enhanced as well...
 
Today second day! I took Vector (2cps) along with food (breakfast). We'll see.
brundel with follidrone are (almost) the fourth bottle :D ...
 
Been taking Vector since Sunday and here's my "so far" review:
- Sleep: huge improvement, can't remember when I slept so good in my life. Grtting up in the morning full of energy and redy to rock n roll
- No increased hunger or anything.
- Nothing to report if it comes to training as only had to sessions at the gym since starting Vector. Definitely better pumps but no action if it comes to strenght/size yet....too early.
-Morning wood.... Bit uncomfortable at times ;)
 
I'm on my second bottle and have seen zero change. First BLR product that has done nothing. At least there is still F 2.0 which works. Shame
 
I'm heading into 4th week soon,

Strength has been stable, better endurance, sleep has me odd and I think I've been eating more.

However, ny weight has definitely gone up 1.5kg in 3 weeks and it hasn't moved for months.

I doubt I gained fat all of a sudden, so I'm unsure lol.

I'm meant to be recomping or dieting but I'll see what happens next week when I weigh in.
 
I'll throw some thoughts in here.. 12 days on Vector:

- Deeper sleep. I have dreams almost nightly now coming from not really having dreams ever (sadface lol).

- Controlled weight gain. I've been aiming for 1lb/week for my bulk. Before starting Vector I stalled, needing to up my calories again. Upon starting Vector, I threw in another 300 calories and continued my 1lb/week. Planning another 100 calorie bump this Sunday to keep ahead of it.

- Appetite effects are pretty good. I'm hungry again 30-60 minutes after a meal pending the size of it.

- Muscle fullness I just started noticing. I feel like I've had a pump the last 36 hours. Not like a true "just got done training" pump, but a baby one.

- Speaking of poop in a few posts prior, I do seem to be doing that more frequently - I've blamed this on the increase in food, but maybe Vector is helping with digestion? I take 1 cap of Gut Health daily too.

- Strength gains maaay be evident. Still keeping an eye on this before claiming Vector is playing a role.
 
Strength has been climbing for me! I am up 5 lbs so far! Muscle fullness is on point.

If my meal is too small I can feel lethargic from Vector. Then I start feeling nauseous and makes it hard to eat even though I am hungry. But that’s on me for not eating enough in the first place. If I make sure to eat enough I feel good and slightly energized.

No change in libido.

Positive mood in the gym and post gym. No improvements in mood if I don’t make it to the gym. So workout every day
 
Strength isn't up
Sleep is fine/deep
Acne is still up a little
Hunger is stable
Lean gains/recomposition is very noticeable
 
Ricky10 said:
My stoolage has been a little more loose since starting Vector. Not diarrhea per say...just you know. Sometimes I have found myself having to go with more urgency than usual as well. It has not been all that problematic though, and other supplements have treated me much worse in this regard.

Oh, so I broke down and opened my second bottle of Vector. I can still benefit from the GDA and fat loss properties, positive mood, and the increased VEGF signaling should only help my elbow! The things I can still do in the gym will be enhanced as well...
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I had to drop taking my psyllium husk, Vector seems to be all I need to keep my stools soft. Plus I crap 2-3 times a day instead of usual once.
 
Ricky10 said:
Haha...that’s funny because I just got done doing it to myself!
I found a video on YouTube :)

I even gave myself a happy ending after the massage was over!

I mean my snow leopard..
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what's a good message without a happy ending! lol
 
- Libido
- Mood
- Energy
- GDA
- Dreams (OFF THE CHARTS) Vivid AF.

I was looking at a special piece of equipment that seemed to relate to a volatile situation, then something bright, and sudden, in my dream and it was too late, a feeling of relaxation. I saw my body vaporize and then I ascended vertically while also feeling my body fall apart in the process, then the feeling of falling down and reassembling. I was on the outside looking in, and inside looking out.
 
ELROCK said:
Strength has been climbing for me! I am up 5 lbs so far! Muscle fullness is on point.

If my meal is too small I can feel lethargic from Vector. Then I start feeling nauseous and makes it hard to eat even though I am hungry. But that’s on me for not eating enough in the first place. If I make sure to eat enough I feel good and slightly energized.

No change in libido.

Positive mood in the gym and post gym. No improvements in mood if I don’t make it to the gym. So workout every day
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The more I hear reports the more I think we can nail down increased endorphins as the cause of the mood increase many are seeing.
We normally see endorphins rise with training but Vector elevates endorphins as well so I think the double rise is just making guys feel better overall.
Not a bad effect.

And Im with you on the food intake. This is why I keep pushing people to eat up. Because nobody likes feeling nauseated but starving ;)
 
Today, day two, capsules taken together with food, 2 + 2 + 2, no diarrhea.
I noticed in the gym more strength, more desire to push.
I emphasize that it is the first day of Re1gn as a preworkout.
 
bb333 said:
Yesterday evening I had trouble sleeping ...
perhaps the fault of Invictus?(0.5) or Letrone?(1cps)
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Maybe it's just you weren't tired? I get up at 3:00am every day and by 7:00pm I can fall asleep.. but stay up until 10:00-11:00p. Sometimes, It's about your circadian rhythm. Setting it up to be consistent.

You may want a sleep aid to get you going to sleep at a better time if it's too late normally to give you the amount of sleep and quality you need. VECTOR gives me the quality sleep because I wake refreshed and ready to go with fewer hours.

On the other hand, it could be something else your taking. Caffeine after 4:00p? for example.
 
Jsgym said:
Hi guys, when is best to take my vector pills?
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Vector has a strong GDA effect, so its best to take it with food. An increase in food and water will be needed or you most likely will feel hypo side effects - especially in the first two weeks. A intraworkout carb is recommended to curb hypo feelings.
Some folks have found that taking more caps with their pre-workout meal positively effects their workout.
I personally like to have taken all caps by 7pm - and I go to sleep around 11pm.
I have found that getting all 6 caps dosed is all that matters. For lower carb days, I take 1 cap 6 times a day and for higher carb days (or increasd pre-workout and or post workout cabs, I take 2-3 caps at once.
All that being said - some guys report being on a strict cut with low carbs and having no problems.
Best to experiment for yourself. Review this thread - as their is allot of good info on everybody's experiences.
 
justhere4comm said:
Maybe it's just you weren't tired? I get up at 3:00am every day and by 7:00pm I can fall asleep.. but stay up until 10:00-11:00p. Sometimes, It's about your circadian rhythm. Setting it up to be consistent.

You may want a sleep aid to get you going to sleep at a better time if it's too late normally to give you the amount of sleep and quality you need. VECTOR gives me the quality sleep because I wake refreshed and ready to go with fewer hours.

On the other hand, it could be something else your taking. Caffeine after 4:00p? for example.
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Caffeina = Re1gn (preworkout ore 15:00)

In my opinion, guilt of invictus!
 
bigsmall said:
Vector has a strong GDA effect, so its best to take it with food. An increase in food and water will be needed or you most likely will feel hypo side effects - especially in the first two weeks. A intraworkout carb is recommended to curb hypo feelings.
Some folks have found that taking more caps with their pre-workout meal positively effects their workout.
I personally like to have taken all caps by 7pm - and I go to sleep around 11pm.
I have found that getting all 6 caps dosed is all that matters. For lower carb days, I take 1 cap 6 times a day and for higher carb days (or increasd pre-workout and or post workout cabs, I take 2-3 caps at once.
All that being said - some guys report being on a strict cut with low carbs and having no problems.
Best to experiment for yourself. Review this thread - as their is allot of good info on everybody's experiences.
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3rd day on vector and taking caps on a empty stomach.
Havent noticed any increased hunger nor hypo sides.
 
Danes said:
3rd day on vector and taking caps on a empty stomach.
Havent noticed any increased hunger nor hypo sides.
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That’s awesome you’re not getting that hypo feeling. The hunger will come, believe that! What are your daily cals at currently?
 
Almost two weeks in now and getting a lot of lethargy. Hard to get my ass moving for awhile. Anyone else?
 
The Express 42 said:
Almost two weeks in now and getting a lot of lethargy. Hard to get my ass moving for awhile. Anyone else?
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I had the opposite, as have other users at this point. Any other factors at play at all? Or things the same just with vector added in?
 
The Express 42 said:
Almost two weeks in now and getting a lot of lethargy. Hard to get my ass moving for awhile. Anyone else?
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I had the same thing and found that 2-3 caps at once was too taxing on my system. Switched to 1 cap at a time for a week and then introduced 2 caps when I am really laying into the food. Other guys talking about lethargy as well - it seems to clear out after about 2 weeks for all but one guy that I can recall. 2 weeks also seems to coincide when hunger starts to relax and the body starts to really utilize fat for fuel.
 
bigsmall said:
I had the same thing and found that 2-3 caps at once was too taxing on my system. Switched to 1 cap at a time for a week and then introduced 2 caps when I am really laying into the food. Other guys talking about lethargy as well - it seems to clear out after about 2 weeks for all but one guy that I can recall. 2 weeks also seems to coincide when hunger starts to relax and the body starts to really utilize fat for fuel.
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Thank you, yeah I’ll try splitting up the caps!
 
The Express 42 said:
Almost two weeks in now and getting a lot of lethargy. Hard to get my ass moving for awhile. Anyone else?
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I get like this with on Vector when I don’t drink enough water and not consuming enough calories. Increase water intake and food intake and Vector will have the exact opposite effect.
 
thebigt said:
very interested in how this treats you....
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I dont have huge expectations because I have tried all 3 ingredients found in Vector at pretty high doses. Example, I used to run 5g Eriobotrya Japonica as an example.

But never combined those 3 ingredients so we will see :)
 
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