Blast: Trestolone Acetate + Testosterone + Superdrol + LGD / Hairygrandpa blowing up!

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Cycle layout:

-Testosterone (50/50 undecanoate/enanthate)
-Trestolone acetate (Ment)
-Superdrol
-LGD

Ancillaries
-Raloxifene
-Letrozole
-Tudca 750mg/d
-B-Vitamins
-Saw Palmetto
-Telmisartan on hand
-Caber on hand

No PCT, I'm always on (cruise/blast)

-Test: Week 1-12 350mg/w
-LGD: Week 1-12 12mg/d
-Trest (Ment) Week 1-6 20mg/d
-Superdrol: week 1-4 20mg/d
-Raloxifene: week 1-6 15mg /d
-Letrozole: 0.6mg ed 1-6 (then tapering down and go with Adex)

I'm already on Test and LGD for 3 weeks now. No sides to report. I wanted to cut -but currently appetite is good -and discipline sucks, so I decided to make it a bulk.
Hairygrandpa: 102kg / 18-20% BF / 5'8" / 50 yo.
Goal: Bulking up to at least 110kg
Training: Intuitive, lots of Body weight exercises, moderate weights, TUT - high volume.
I had complete blood labs a month ago, all ready -nothing out of range.

A word on low dose Raloxifene :
I did an TD+Oral Trest cycle a year ago. Even with a sh1tload of Exemestane AND Adex, I got a bit of gyno from it, that I got rid off with 3 weeks of Raloxifene afterwards. I decided, the day I run Trest again, it will be together with low dose Ralox, to keep the breast receptors tapped.

I will try to inject Trestolone acetate sub-q, as its very little volume, lets see how that goes.

Before pics:



I did a lot of "trying" in the past, hopefully my experience helps me to minimize side effects and go through with the cycle.
Lets the ride begin!
 
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Who wants to see me lactating again, should come in!
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I'm in. Superdrol is the 5h1t! No joke.
 
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How could I miss it ?
 
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oh Heyyyyyyy
 
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Fuxking hell!! That’s a right sh1t mix you’ve got going on there gramps! (In a good way) in for the milk!
 
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Fuxking hell!! That’s a right sh1t mix you’ve got going on there gramps! (In a good way) in for the milk!
Thank you for showing up! What do you think, do I need some DHT too? Proviron? Couldn't find anyone online who used Ralox during cycle, guessing I'm the first, LOL! Any suggestions?
 
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Definetly in
 
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Wish my grandpa could hook me up with these goodies. Throw some anavar in there, I can eat like **** and still get lean on this stuff
 
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Lol I thought youd sworn off Breastolone
Nah, bro! Never! My previous encounter with it was great -besides the gyno, LOL!
I don't tolerate most of the roids -but trest is as awesome as it gets. I always stated: "When I do it again, I'll have low dose ralox with it and letro on hand." The time has come...


NPP on the other hand, I love too. But lactating (even with caber) is a turn off.
 
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Finished pinning Trestolone acetate sub-q, 0.26ml (more or less) isn't much, don't want to use my "testosterone-delts" for it. My batch comes at 75mg/ml and I anticipated a sting like from "a hornet on roids".



Oil is a bit thick but went through a 30G slin pin without hassle. No sting at all. Lets see if it has a PIP to it.
On my way to the gym, stay tuned.
 
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Subbed. Just drink your own milk if u lactate, extra protein :)
 
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Bottle it and sell it... :scratchchin:
 
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I'm In. Almost out of the anabolic hgp breast milk from the last time.
 
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Felt more aggression, may be placebo -or the trest/superdrol pre workout.
Going somewhat slow and watching form, upping volume as cycle progresses.

DB flat bench
2x80lbs 15/12/12

Pull ups
12

Inverted row horizontal bar
16/13

DB Hex press
2x65lbs x9/8

Seated row narrow grip
265 x12/10

Seated row machine with chest stop, one armed
240lbs x10/8

Cable flies
2x50lbs x14/12/13

Smith squat
210lbs x14/10/8

Incline press machine
275lbs x 10

Leg extensions
150lbs x20
slow x13
quick x22
slow x10

Dead lift amrap
225lbs x16

Bent over row
225lbs x9

elevated push ups w, handles TUT 3.1.1
18

3x3 minutes heavy bag

Now icing my damn elbow, injured it a week ago and thought it it were already healed....
 
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Gym

Felt more aggression, may be placebo -or the trest/superdrol pre workout.
Going somewhat slow and watching form, upping volume as cycle progresses.

DB flat bench
2x80lbs 15/12/12

Pull ups
12

Inverted row horizontal bar
16/13

DB Hex press
2x65lbs x9/8

Seated row narrow grip
265 x12/10

Seated row machine with chest stop, one armed
240lbs x10/8

Cable flies
2x50lbs x14/12/13

Smith squat
210lbs x14/10/8

Incline press machine
275lbs x 10

Leg extensions
150lbs x20
slow x13
quick x22
slow x10

Dead lift amrap
225lbs x16

Bent over row
225lbs x9

elevated push ups w, handles TUT 3.1.1
18

3x3 minutes heavy bag

Now icing my damn elbow, injured it a week ago and thought it it were already healed....
Looking good hairygrandpa. Don't forget heat as well on the elbow. Switch between Ice and Heat. Do you have ever tried a tens unit?
 
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Looking good hairygrandpa. Don't forget heat as well on the elbow. Switch between Ice and Heat. Do you have ever tried a tens unit?
Yes, I had one of those, not very convinced by it. Its not as bad, really. Gonna ice it, some NSAID's and maybe the "Armaid" for trigger point massage. That will do.
If nothing helps, I gonna go the BPC/PEG-MGF route, that worked awesome on my rotator cuff.
 
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Nah, bro! Never! My previous encounter with it was great -besides the gyno, LOL!
I don't tolerate most of the roids -but trest is as awesome as it gets. I always stated: "When I do it again, I'll have low dose ralox with it and letro on hand." The time has come...


NPP on the other hand, I love too. But lactating (even with caber) is a turn off.
Personally just run 30mgs of ralox the whole time, and have the ai on hand. Ralox won't hurt gains at all(like other terms can), it will significantly reduce chance of gyno, and should minimize alot of trest negative sides.
 
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I'm also subbed for knowledge, LOL! Would be the first time this old fugger finishes a cycle without:
-Injury
-lactating
-Puffer fish bloat
-gyno
-ice cone nipples
 
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Personally just run 30mgs of ralox the whole time, and have the ai on hand. Ralox won't hurt gains at all(like other terms can), it will significantly reduce chance of gyno, and should minimize alot of trest negative sides.
Technically, it should work. I figured, as my trest dosage is under the recommended intake (50-75mg ed -or at least 50mg eod) 15mg Ralox could work.
I would take 30mg but have only 15mg/day for 6 weeks at hand (what's left from my last gyno-combat). Remember, I'm a cheap bastard! LOL
 
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Update on sub-q trestolone acetate:

No pip, no "boil", no "tren cough" (others said it happened to them because of the acetate ester)
 
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Anyone knows if LGD has "anti-estro" properties, like Epistane? Couldn't find anything on it, but heard that people get sore joints from it, what could indicate anti-e .
 
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Yes, I had one of those, not very convinced by it. Its not as bad, really. Gonna ice it, some NSAID's and maybe the "Armaid" for trigger point massage. That will do.
If nothing helps, I gonna go the BPC/PEG-MGF route, that worked awesome on my rotator cuff.
Don't use nsaid or Tylenol, unless you absolutely have to. They are way worse for you than people realize. If any of these were to try to be otc now, with all we now, it would be a hard sell to FDA. Plus they can wreck your gains.

No joke my lipids, and liver values are all out of wack on my last blood test. I haven't drank in 6 months before this test and have taking any hormones, methyl or not, in 2 years. They were completely messed up from label use of nsaids and Tylenol for pain. So I got some K1ngsguard, tudca, and nac. Will be taking K1ngsguard at recommend dose, 2g tudca, and 10g of nac(still under clinic doses but anymore will be to expensive) for 2months and see what things are like. I doubt it, but I may need so tissue removed. Found this out today sh!t is nasty for you.

Look into stem cell injection, for pain. The studies on this are nothing short of amazing. You may have to travel, but the best ones are in South America, were they can actually use placenta stem cells. Works for more than just pain too. It may even make your dick work better.(seriously!!!!).
 
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Anyone knows if LGD has "anti-estro" properties, like Epistane? Couldn't find anything on it, but heard that people get sore joints from it, what could indicate anti-e .
I don't think so. However, I have not looked into this.
 
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Technically, it should work. I figured, as my trest dosage is under the recommended intake (50-75mg ed -or at least 50mg eod) 15mg Ralox could work.
I would take 30mg but have only 15mg/day for 6 weeks at hand (what's left from my last gyno-combat). Remember, I'm a cheap bastard! LOL
15 should be fine might do SMALL dose of letro with it like .5 E3D. And up letro if needed. I just wouldn't risk it with trest if you know what I mean, but the small of dose of letro should be no problem.
 
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Don't use nsaid or Tylenol, unless you absolutely have to. They are way worse for you than people realize. If any of these were to try to be otc now, with all we now, it would be a hard sell to FDA. Plus they can wreck your gains.

No joke my lipids, and liver values are all at of wack on my last blood test. I haven't drank in 6 months before this test and have taking any hormones, methyl or not, in 2 years. They were completely messed up from label use of nsaids and Tylenol. So I got some K1ngsguard, tudca, and nac. Will be taking K1ngsguard at recommend dose, 2g tudca, and 10g of nac(still under clinic doses but anymore will be to expensive) for 2months and see what things are like. I doubt it, but I may need so tissue removed. Found this out today sh!t is nasty for you.

Look into stem cell injection, for pain. The studies on this are nothing short of amazing. You may have to travel, but the best ones are in South America, were they can actually use placenta stem cells. Works for more than just pain too. It may even make your dick work better.(seriously!!!!).
10g nac? You meant 1000mg, right? Yes, you are definitely right on NSAID's. I take them rarely. My last blood lab was all okay and in range.
The stem cell treatment is interesting. Saw a Rogan show with Mel Gibson talking about this. Thing is, they do it in Panama (maybe Brazil too, have to check). Panama is as far away from me -as it is from you. Besides it costs about 15k. Have to sell my daughters virginity to pay for it....wait...I'm on to something.... (kidding)
 
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15 should be fine might do SMALL dose of letro with it like .5 E3D. And up letro if needed. I just would risk it with trest if you know what I mean, but the small of dose of letro should be no problem.
I planned letro 0.6mg ed. Will try eod. I saw others who were on 50mg trest/d take 2.5mg letro ED -but they were not taking Ralox (I'm a smart old fugger, muhahaha) :)
 
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Nice stack, this might be my next bulk research after a PCT rest. I have extra LGD and Superdrol, I might try Trest Enthanate first, IM pins twice a week for Test E and EQ is hard enough to maintain....without a daily subQ.
 
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10g nac? You meant 1000mg, right? Yes, you are definitely right on NSAID's. I take them rarely. My last blood lab was all okay and in range.
The stem cell treatment is interesting. Saw a Rogan show with Mel Gibson talking about this. Thing is, they do it in Panama (maybe Brazil too, have to check). Panama is as far away from me -as it is from you. Besides it costs about 15k. Have to sell my daughters virginity to pay for it....wait...I'm on to something.... (kidding)
Ya stem cell is quite expensive. Maybe you could sell me my freedom, for it, and let me out this basement?? Haha. As for nac I meant 10g. Clinic dose is actually WAY higher. As in 7g every 216 minutes. So 46.66666 grams a day. Ya no joke, there other doses, proven to work for other conditions, but none that I've seen for liver cirrhosis other than the 7g every 216 minutes.
 
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I planned letro 0.6mg ed. Will try eod. I saw others who were on 50mg trest/d take 2.5mg letro ED -but they were not taking Ralox (I'm a smart old fugger, muhahaha) :)
With ralox, I would go e3d on the letro to start and adjust from there. Letro is strong, ralox is strong, so you don't want to over do it.
 
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Nice stack, this might be my next bulk research after a PCT rest. I have extra LGD and Superdrol, I might try Trest Enthanate first, IM pins twice a week for Test E and EQ is hard enough to maintain....without a daily subQ.
Could not get my hands on Trest enanthate -or decanoate. On the other hand, if sub-q pinning stays as painless and "boil-free", I would suggest you go for acetate.
My last encounter with Trest gave me gyno, despite 25mg exem/ed AND 1mg adex/ed. At this time I had no Letro and no Ralox during cycle. I followed through with the cycle, because a former member told me, that painful nipples+AI = no gyno. I was a total idiot following his advise (it was BigHulksmash) If you go for a long ester, you may run into trouble and can't get off fast enough.
 
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Ya stem cell is quite expensive. Maybe you could sell me my freedom, for it, and let me out this basement?? Haha. As for nac I meant 10g. Clinic dose is actually WAY higher. As in 7g every 216 minutes. So 46.66666 grams a day. Ya no joke, there other doses, proven to work for other conditions, but none that I've seen for liver cirrhosis other than the 7g every 216 minutes.
Wow, gonna read on this! Thank's bro!
 
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Wow, gonna read on this! Thank's bro!
Ya no problem. I could be wrong for sure, as I haven't dug to deep into this. Just seems I can't find anything other than 7g every 216 minutes for liver cirrhosis.
 
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Could not get my hands on Trest enanthate -or decanoate. On the other hand, if sub-q pinning stays as painless and "boil-free", I would suggest you go for acetate.
My last encounter with Trest gave me gyno, despite 25mg exem/ed AND 1mg adex/ed. At this time I had no Letro and no Ralox during cycle. I followed through with the cycle, because a former member told me, that painful nipples+AI = no gyno. I was a total idiot following his advise (it was BigHulksmash) If you go for a long ester, you may run into trouble and can't get off fast enough.
Good point! I have yet to run any Trestolone, but know the others in your stack are gtg 4 me.

Also, just killed my gyno with Exemestane AI while on Test E, however the gyno came from my lack of early PCT knowledge and running PH without AI on cycle, or SERM in PCT (damn Lecheeck Armistane PCT false BS).

I can PM you what I found for the Trest Enanthate, but it's pricey stuff. Sounds like the acetate subQ is going well, easier than deep IM? Is the acetate also high cost?
 
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With ralox, I would go e3d on the letro to start and adjust from there. Letro is strong, ralox is strong, so you don't want to over do it.

You are probably right here, because IF Ralox at 15mg taps the receptors, no need to go high on AI.
Will go the middle way and switch from 0.6mg ed to 0.6mg eod. If low e2 sides occur (always hard to tell if e2 is high -or low), I will go with e3d.
Remember, I'm somewhat fat and a heavy "aromatizer"



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You are probably right here, because IF Ralox at 15mg taps the receptors, no need to go high on AI.
Will go the middle way and switch from 0.6mg ed to 0.6mg eod. If low e2 sides occur (always hard to tell if e2 is high -or low), I will go with e3d.
Remember, I'm somewhat fat and a heavy "aromatizer"



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Good point! I have yet to run any Trestolone, but know the others in your stack are gtg 4 me.

Also, just killed my gyno with Exemestane AI while on Test E, however the gyno came from my lack of early PCT knowledge and running PH without AI on cycle, or SERM in PCT.

I can PM you what I found for the Trest Enanthate, but it's pricey stuff. Sounds like the acetate subQ is going well, easier than deep IM? Is the acetate also high cost?
First sub-q was a breeze. Felt nothing at all! Its only 0.26ml/d. The acetate wasn't cheap -but cheaper than others I could find online. I'm hesitating to name a price and source, as I got it from a friend.
 

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