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kjscatch said:
As much as I want to buy more FD2 as I am out in 2 days. I am Gonna have to save my money for this.
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There will be a VERY brief intro sale. 48 hours. Less maybe. We will have a limited amount ready for Pre sale.
Im gonna tell you guys now....youll want to get in on the sale cause itll go fast and youll kick yourself if you dont.
 
brundel said:
There will be a VERY brief intro sale. 48 hours. Less maybe. We will have a limited amount ready for Pre sale.
Im gonna tell you guys now....youll want to get in on the sale cause itll go fast and youll kick yourself if you dont.
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Very true on this. From my experience here on AM, especially, BLR products go by fast during launch! Get on it people!
 
brundel said:
There will be a VERY brief intro sale. 48 hours. Less maybe. We will have a limited amount ready for Pre sale.
Im gonna tell you guys now....youll want to get in on the sale cause itll go fast and youll kick yourself if you dont.
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Thanks for the heads up! Will keep a look out
 
jt75 said:
I like what I'm hearing!!
When u mention dbol are you also talking wet gains or dry mass with Vector?
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Wet.
In spite of this we are seeing alot of androgenic effects.
Pro libido
Pro erection
Pro overall sexual function.
mentioned by 100% of testers so far.
We havnt seen any signs of suppression either. In fact it seems like the opposite is happening. When you see the chemical profile of these plants youll understand more about whats involved.

Follidrone will be the dry option. Or letrone.
FD2/Letrone cycle youll be so dry you might burst into flames.

Vector= Wet. Mass gainer.
Classified product #2 might also be slightly wet.
 
Dukethumper said:
brundel would this be smart to add with my Letrone, Viron, rebirth, Follidrone stack for a cut
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Yes but I wouldnt wait. It could be a few weeks still before release and I suggest you get that PCT stack rolling asap.
Lets get the endocrine system functioning properly then once your into the high normal ranges you can add in Vector because it will work really well with the other products.
 
jameschoi said:
When is the sale.
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Still a few weeks away. This is just the first tidbit of info we are releasing to let you guys know this is coming.
We will trickle info out right about until release date.
This one is going to be super exciting.....big plans for launch.
 
brundel said:
Yes but I wouldnt wait. It could be a few weeks still before release and I suggest you get that PCT stack rolling asap.
Lets get the endocrine system functioning properly then once your into the high normal ranges you can add in Vector because it will work really well with the other products.
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Ya, I was thinking of after 4 weeks adding Oxymax, should I add it with Oxymax?
 
brundel said:
Oh yah. This is the purpose. We will have by March I would think 4 anabolics in our lineup that can all be stacked and have different MOAs.

Follidrone 2.0
Follistatin+/Myostatin-
ACE inhibition
Glut4 activation
etc

Letrone
AI
HGH+
IGF1+
cAMP+
Test+
Estrogen-

VECTOR
MTOR
Increased protein synthesis
multiple more Ill reveal as we get closer to launch.

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Currently I will say VECTOR is going to be a major mass builder. Like Follidrone=winstrol VECTOR= dbol
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I remember running Winstrol twice with no test base bc I was 18 and stupid. Fun times! Looking forward to the new Products man!
 
chedapalooza said:
I remember running Winstrol twice with no test base bc I was 18 and stupid. Fun times! Looking forward to the new Products man!
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Oh man....may as well chop the nads off.
I know alot of guys who have done this though. Including the thousands of guys who run DS/PH cycles without test and then cant figure out why their DIcks dont work, they are lactating an have boobs now......
Gotta have the test and a host of ancillaries.

Thankfully these products dont need it for the most part which really makes it easier to deal with.
Your gonna love this one ;)
 
I love seeing guys like Brundel kick ass in this biz. Most of you probably aren't aware, but both Brundel and I were forum leaders in the Chemical Enhancement section over at MD about 10 years ago. Neither of us were in the supp industry at that time (at least not as company owners), but we spoke often, supported each other, and knew that we would one day move onto bigger and better things.

As far as I am concerned, it's guys like Brundel that make the supp industry turn. We have very similar mind-sets in terms of how supplementation should be approached...and I have the utmost respect for that.
 
Hmmmmm, wasnt really wanting to jump on a wet bulker but still may give it a go cos I'm pretty lean right now
 
brundel said:
There will be a VERY brief intro sale. 48 hours. Less maybe. We will have a limited amount ready for Pre sale.
Im gonna tell you guys now....youll want to get in on the sale cause itll go fast and youll kick yourself if you dont.
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Will it be international shipping also?
 
Mike Arnold said:
I love seeing guys like Brundel kick ass in this biz. Most of you probably aren't aware, but both Brundel and I were forum leaders in the Chemical Enhancement section over at MD about 10 years ago. Neither of us were in the supp industry at that time (at least not as company owners), but we spoke often, supported other, and knew that we would one day move onto bigger and better things.

As far as I am concerned, it's guys like Brundel that make the supp industry turn. We have very similar mind-sets in terms of how supplementation should be approached...and I have the utmost respect for that.
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Couldn’t agree more. I’ve been an AM member since 2011 and without this forum I’d have never started HPScience. I’m certain of that. Brundel has been a HUGE help and mentor providing me with tons of invaluable advice and tips for success. I will always support him and BLR Products and personally use many of them as well.
 
Mike Arnold said:
I love seeing guys like Brundel kick ass in this biz. Most of you probably aren't aware, but both Brundel and I were forum leaders in the Chemical Enhancement section over at MD about 10 years ago. Neither of us were in the supp industry at that time (at least not as company owners), but we spoke often, supported other, and knew that we would one day move onto bigger and better things.

As far as I am concerned, it's guys like Brundel that make the supp industry turn. We have very similar mind-sets in terms of how supplementation should be approached...and I have the utmost respect for that.
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I appreciate the support Mike. Your right....I knew at some point we would utilize the connections and friendships made and create something more.
This is a good place for us (supplement industry) We can research and develop new things but it allows us to be able to offer it to others and benefit the industry as a whole. And, Yes Mike is very much like I am. His focus is the quality of the product above everything else which is something we rarely see these days. Thanks for the comment brother. Glad to see you on here more. The community could really benefit from your presence.
 
jt75 said:
Hmmmmm, wasnt really wanting to jump on a wet bulker but still may give it a go cos I'm pretty lean right now
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When I say wet I mean there is likely some potential for intracellular water retention on cycle. If anything VECTOR will help keep fat off.
2 of the chemical constituents are being studied as antiobesity agents.
 
I want to thank brundel and Mike Arnold for your contributions!
Not just supplements but useful knowledge that you guys opening share!

And the criticism you guys sometimes put up with!
 
brundel said:
I need to sort this out. Thanks for the reminder.
Will prob work with a UK distributor for EU launch.
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UK would be good - preditor nutrition maybe but they like to be more expensive than everyone else.. hope the price is decent
 
00A said:
UK would be good - preditor nutrition maybe but they like to be more expensive than everyone else.. hope the price is decent
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UK is always a bit more yah. It costs a good deal to import the product.
Sometimes its cheaper to order from the US if you can find a retailer who will ship INTL.
We will have an intro sale. Very short. I HIGHLY suggest getting in there. might only be 24 hours.
 
I've made 14 but you were close lol
No problem Brundel but hurry up and release this so I can get huuuuge!! ??
 
I'm not guessing this is why I buy your products! You get to do all the work!!
I just want to grow.
 
Some great guesses for sure. I can't wait to show you guys what's in it and why.
It's what's in the plants that makes them so special. ;)
For example..green tea is great and all but green tea extract isn't super exciting.
99%epicatechin green tea on the other hand is exciting.
We are getting close. Have current testers at 150% dose. If they do well I'll likely increase potency 50% before launch. Gonna be some stout stuff.
 
Dukethumper said:
Currently logging Letrone, Rebirth, Viron, and Follidrone and will add Vector on 4 weeks
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Always been interested in rebirth since I respond well to clomid. I forgot all about viron.... great product. I’ll have to use that loyalty code to pick some up as I’m almost out of the LJ I currently use. And boron is a must :) great Stack
 
chedapalooza said:
Always been interested in rebirth since I respond well to clomid. I forgot all about viron.... great product. I’ll have to use that loyalty code to pick some up as I’m almost out of the LJ I currently use. And boron is a must :) great Stack
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Ya, I'm using it due to me having an estrogen imbalance
 
00A said:
UK would be good - preditor nutrition maybe but they like to be more expensive than everyone else.. hope the price is decent
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Predator aint that good in my opiniion. Always a huge mark up to US prices compared to other UK retailers. PMS is better...
 
mcgeier said:
Predator aint that good in my opiniion. Always a huge mark up to US prices compared to other UK retailers. *********** is better...
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I agree, prices always go high and old stock they sell which not good.. please send pm of company you use as blocked out..
 
paul56778 said:
how is progress with powdered fat burner?
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Fourth in line.
Partially just because while demand for fat burners is high there are millions of them already.
Legit natural anabolics....not many.
Pre workout product that works like ours. 0.

Once we get these out the powdered product will be next.
 
brundel said:
Fourth in line.
Partially just because while demand for fat burners is high there are millions of them already.
Legit natural anabolics....not many.
Pre workout product that works like ours. 0.

Once we get these out the powdered product will be next.
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Millions of them maybe, but effective?

Most of them all contain the same ingredients and the only difference being how many stims product A has to product B
 
DEVANS89 said:
Millions of them maybe, but effective?

Most of them all contain the same ingredients and the only difference being how many stims product A has to product B
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I couldn’t agree more. I bought kraken (original with DMHA) recently and had one or two great workouts but the crash was miserable and the way I felt the rest of the day felt eerily similar to an amphetamine...so I’m done with that. It seems that they’re all the normal 3-5 ingredients + the stim bomb. I’m really hoping the upcoming BLR preworkout breaks the mold.
 
toddmuelheim said:
I couldn’t agree more. I bought kraken (original with DMHA) recently and had one or two great workouts but the crash was miserable and the way I felt the rest of the day felt eerily similar to an amphetamine...so I’m done with that. It seems that they’re all the normal 3-5 ingredients + the stim bomb. I’m really hoping the upcoming BLR preworkout breaks the mold.
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I think more companies should go down the stim free route, nothing worse then being cracked out in the gym
 
DEVANS89 said:
I think more companies should go down the stim free route, nothing worse then being cracked out in the gym
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Problem is then lot of “noobs” would say product doing nothing for them and then not buy.. stim products make user think it helps in short term - which it does, long term usage may have side effects, especially when everyones tolerance raises, soon you consume more and more of the worlds most addictive drug caffeine..

You look at the bright side but forget companies are out there to make cash cash cash..
 
DEVANS89 said:
Millions of them maybe, but effective?

Most of them all contain the same ingredients and the only difference being how many stims product A has to product B
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I fully agree. Unfortunately the market is saturated with mostly garbage but here is one of the issues for someone looking to make a really solid fat burner. Most of the products are just tons of stims or have a few of all the same cheap ingredients. and stims are cheap.This then makes it so most fat burners are relatively inexpensive. Looks great on the outside but the products mostly suck. So say I decided to make a really solid fat burner.
To be competitive and sell product Id have to have the price also be competitive. Most people dont know the difference with regards to ingredients really or they are a little informed but they really look at cost and retailers look at how much they make per sale. So I can make the best fat burner on earth and unless I basically lose money on it it wont sell. And even then it wont sell well.
We had incinderine which was decent enough and it was dead last sales wise and It was close to 0$ profit per bottle because the ingredients are expensive at full doses.

I have a plan to make a powdered fat burning stim. Its just on the back burner because only a handful of people actually want it vs something like VECTOR which everyone wants. Gotta pick my battles.
Trust me on this you would rather have our pre come out that a fat burner. ;) The pre is exceptional.
 
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