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Just if it sounds lime a good cycle to do some major gains since its 2 products ive never tried
Sounds like overkill. More is not always better. Too many methyls are gonna beat your liver up and that will effect overall gains. Kills your appetite and energy levels. More than 1 new compound at a time is never recommended either. Just a few things to think about.
 
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Sounds like overkill. More is not always better. Too many methyls are gonna beat your liver up and that will effect overall gains. Kills your appetite and energy levels. More than 1 new compound at a time is never recommended either. Just a few things to think about.
Thanks yates84 for the advice
 
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I only give advice if personal nudes are sent/posted as payment up front.
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Can't find/remember the swinging boobies code.
 
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I only give advice if personal nudes are sent/posted as payment up front.
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Can't find/remember the swinging boobies code.
Since it's mostly bros in here I think you used the appropriate emoji lmao
 
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yates84 what you think of this new S23 SARM? Actually making me think about re-dipping my toes back into the SARM game haha
 
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I'm going to give you the gist and you can ask me questions along the way.

I've been having trouble recovering since my last 12 week cycle of Test E.

I finished early 2016 and I've been having trouble recovering since.

I did a PCT of torem and clomid but the site that I got from was junk. I went to my trusted and original source, got clomid and Nolva and all was good.

After PCT however, I had ED issues and I was panicking, but at some point i decided to let it go and hope my body corrects itself.

That was around spring 2016 and I've been living since.

I can have sex and get it up around a woman, but my penis still has a numby hollow feeling, never really have morning erections nor random ones, and recently found out I've been exhibiting symptoms of low test.

I finally thought to myself that things just aren't right, and I got blood work done to see my levels.

My doctor got back to me and said everything looks normal but I exclaimed that I'm having issues and he referred me to a urologist.

In the meantime, I decided to do another PCT after getting blood work and I started using the remaining clomid and nolva I had left.

Things were working great the first few days but I had to switch my dosages to EOD since I was really low on both.

Currently waiting on Torem from RUI products and wanna do a 6 week PCT of 120/90/60/60/30/30

I'm considering HCG but I'm low on money and would like to see if torem does the trick.

I'm taking ZMA, ashwaganda, DAA, L-arginine and DHEA with minimal help but nothing drastic.

My question is what can I do to help me fully recover.

I'm waiting for my urologist appointment, waiting on my torem and praying for the best.

I'm staying positive and putting the good energy out in the universe expecting a full recovery, because TRT would genuinely suck.

If anybody has any advice suggestions, or anything like that, please let me know!

Thanks for the help!
 

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I have been thinking about doing a "mini cycle" of winny 50-60ed for 3 weeks, do I need any support supps for a short cycle like that and do I need a test base?

I know most will say it's a waste but I'm just looking for a little push, thanks for any help.
 

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I'm going to give you the gist and you can ask me questions along the way.

I've been having trouble recovering since my last 12 week cycle of Test E.

I finished early 2016 and I've been having trouble recovering since.

I did a PCT of torem and clomid but the site that I got from was junk. I went to my trusted and original source, got clomid and Nolva and all was good.

After PCT however, I had ED issues and I was panicking, but at some point i decided to let it go and hope my body corrects itself.

That was around spring 2016 and I've been living since.

I can have sex and get it up around a woman, but my penis still has a numby hollow feeling, never really have morning erections nor random ones, and recently found out I've been exhibiting symptoms of low test.

I finally thought to myself that things just aren't right, and I got blood work done to see my levels.

My doctor got back to me and said everything looks normal but I exclaimed that I'm having issues and he referred me to a urologist.

In the meantime, I decided to do another PCT after getting blood work and I started using the remaining clomid and nolva I had left.

Things were working great the first few days but I had to switch my dosages to EOD since I was really low on both.

Currently waiting on Torem from RUI products and wanna do a 6 week PCT of 120/90/60/60/30/30

I'm considering HCG but I'm low on money and would like to see if torem does the trick.

I'm taking ZMA, ashwaganda, DAA, L-arginine and DHEA with minimal help but nothing drastic.

My question is what can I do to help me fully recover.

I'm waiting for my urologist appointment, waiting on my torem and praying for the best.

I'm staying positive and putting the good energy out in the universe expecting a full recovery, because TRT would genuinely suck.

If anybody has any advice suggestions, or anything like that, please let me know!

Thanks for the help!
What was your test levels in your latest blood work?
 
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yates84 what you think of this new S23 SARM? Actually making me think about re-dipping my toes back into the SARM game haha
I've been hearing some good things about it! Sounds worth taking a cycle of it to see what all the fuss is about.
 
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Currently waiting to see the results myself.

As of now all I know is my Dr said I'm in normal range and everything came back normal as well.

However I'd also like to be the judge of that.
 

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For MK-677 my rat was on it for a couple of month's. After stopping use,stage of lethargy was noted. Is an OTC PCT like Sup3r PCT good enough or is something like Torem needed for recovery?

If so,after 4 weeks of use. Does it have to wait another 6-8 weeks to find homeostasis?
 
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I've been hearing some good things about it! Sounds worth taking a cycle of it to see what all the fuss is about.
I hear ya, thinking about chucking it in at the tail end of my test/var cut in January. Probably going to now haha
 
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Because I'm an idiot, I posted this in the wrong thread so am re-posting.

Proper amateur question here: would taking a large(ish) (still safe, of course) dose of 4-andro late in a cycle help with lethargy? Or does it need time to build-up / only minimise the onset of lethargy?

Mostly just curious, as I'm on a mild Havoc cycle with barely a week left (so could tough it out) and workouts are still going great. Employers aren't overly thrilled with me falling asleep at my desk in the afternoons though.
 

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Because I'm an idiot, I posted this in the wrong thread so am re-posting.

Proper amateur question here: would taking a large(ish) (still safe, of course) dose of 4-andro late in a cycle help with lethargy? Or does it need time to build-up / only minimise the onset of lethargy?

Mostly just curious, as I'm on a mild Havoc cycle with barely a week left (so could tough it out) and workouts are still going great. Employers aren't overly thrilled with me falling asleep at my desk in the afternoons though.
Take some caffeine and tough it out the last week.
 
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Hey guys going to keep it short and sweet.

I haven't fully recovered from my last cycle of Test E in Jan 2016.

I couldnt get HCG and I used Nolva and Clomid. Felt great the first few weeks then dropped off and I've been down ever since.

I recently got blood work done:
Test: 537.8
FSH: 4.1
LH: 1.4
TSH: 2.04

After bloodwork I decided to give PCT another shot and bought some Torem to switch it up. I used the little remaining Clomid and Nolva I had in the meantime and I felt great once again; gave me a bit of hope.

I just bought HCG and I'll be taking it with the Torem, is restart going to be possible?

All I need is possible and how to make sure that this PCT is all that it can be.

Please feel free to ask me any questions.

Any and all help is appreciated!

Thanks in advanced
 
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Hey guys going to keep it short and sweet.

I haven't fully recovered from my last cycle of Test E in Jan 2016.

I couldnt get HCG and I used Nolva and Clomid. Felt great the first few weeks then dropped off and I've been down ever since.

I recently got blood work done:
Test: 537.8
FSH: 4.1
LH: 1.4
TSH: 2.04

After bloodwork I decided to give PCT another shot and bought some Torem to switch it up. I used the little remaining Clomid and Nolva I had in the meantime and I felt great once again; gave me a bit of hope.

I just bought HCG and I'll be taking it with the Torem, is restart going to be possible?

All I need is possible and how to make sure that this PCT is all that it can be.

Please feel free to ask me any questions.

Any and all help is appreciated!

Thanks in advanced
Your test is considered in the normal range. What do you mean you aren't recovered?
 
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It's in "normal" range but I rarely get morning erections, my testicles still feel small and I don't get random hard-on's either.

My little buddy tends to shrivel up in ward and I gotta pull it out plus it's difficult to achieve a full erection alone.

I at least can get horny I'm about to sleep with a girl but I don't have that urge to go after them like I used to.

My test may have started up a bit but I know I'm not fully right yet.

I wanted to do HCG then finish off with torem and hope I'm back to the morning woods and all the good stuff.
 

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It's in "normal" range but I rarely get morning erections, my testicles still feel small and I don't get random hard-on's either.

My little buddy tends to shrivel up in ward and I gotta pull it out plus it's difficult to achieve a full erection alone.

I at least can get horny I'm about to sleep with a girl but I don't have that urge to go after them like I used to.

My test may have started up a bit but I know I'm not fully right yet.

I wanted to do HCG then finish off with torem and hope I'm back to the morning woods and all the good stuff.
Did you get E2 checked?
 
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For MK-677 my rat was on it for a couple of month's. After stopping use,stage of lethargy was noted. Is an OTC PCT like Sup3r PCT good enough or is something like Torem needed for recovery?

If so,after 4 weeks of use. Does it have to wait another 6-8 weeks to find homeostasis?
MK-677 doesn't need a PCT because it has absolutely nothing to do with your testosterone levels. Make sure you research the compounds you use.
 

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No I haven't.

Would that be a big determining factor?
Yes, absolutely. E2 has a major impact on morning wood, libido, and erection strength. When my E2 is high, Cialis doesn't even work and my balls lose their fullness.
 
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I'll see my urologist on Monday so I'll be able to ask then.

What would be a good way of lowering E2?
 
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Okay cool

I'll be taking the 5000 iu HCG along with torem after that's finished.

Should I dose the AI along with it? And if so how much?
 

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Okay cool

I'll be taking the 5000 iu HCG along with torem after that's finished.

Should I dose the AI along with it? And if so how much?
I'm not sure you need another PCT. Get E2 checked. If it's high, get it back down and you may feel great again at your current testosterone level.
 
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I'll get my E2 checked but I know my test should be around 700-800.

I'll pick up an AI, see my urologist and take it from there.

However I do think I may need another PCT since I know my testicles have been small for awhile now and I'm unable to bust loads unless I don't masterbate for a week or 2.

Do you think I can be optimistic? Is the fact that my test isn't too low a cause for relief and a sign I could recover better in the future?
 

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Okay cool

I'll be taking the 5000 iu HCG along with torem after that's finished.

Should I dose the AI along with it? And if so how much?
HCG can elevet e2, if your estrogen is high I would not do HCG.

Since you test is in normal range already I would just do a natural test booster to help with libido.
 
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I've been doing Natty test boosters and what not, but nothing has done much to change my current situation.

I've only done HCG once during my time cycling, and I think it was bunk or I didn't take it nearly as long enough as I needed to (my source at the time was really expensive)

I feel like using hcg/torem could give me a kickstart to my nuts and get my test levels back up to where they should be.

I'll also see what my doctor says and try and get more blood work.
 
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If mike is right and e2 high, bringing it down with aromasin will bump your TT up and hopefully drop SHBG a bit too. Its quite likely your TT:e2 is skewed. Low LH could be a sign of high e2 as well (the latter can suppress pituitary output of the former).
 
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I just finish a test cycle so Im running a PCT with novaldex and hcg, my question is how long I should wait to take any ph like 1 andro 4 andro epiandro?
 

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I Would like to know the long term side affects of juicing (if any).
If you stick to correct dosages and follow a proper pct and use as safley as possible. Can it come back to haunt you 20-30+ years in the future. thanks
 
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I just donated whole blood the other day to get my system a little cleaner And I was wondering how long I need to wait before I can run a 12 week test E cycle? Probably going to go with a kicker also.
 
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He guys just thought I'd start this thread to help those who need it. I have about 10+ years of experience with this stuff and even more years worth of studying it. Everything i say will be from personal experience unless otherwise noted.

Ask away!
Best time to dose creatine? Currently on a loading phase with mono 5g on wake up and 5g post workout.
 

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Best time to dose creatine? Currently on a loading phase with mono 5g on wake up and 5g post workout.
I find it best to just always use. No need for loading then.
But if you cycle it then I'd say 2 weeks loading is plenty. There have been studies on it actually but unfortunatelly I don't remember anymore.
 
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Looks like I'm running into a few unwanted issues. At the end of week one I've randomly started to get very bloated and gyno flare up which has calmed down. This is strange as I've been taking adex 0.25mg EOD and caber 0.25mg twice a week.

I'm not quite sure what's causing it tbh. Never had this issue before on test with other compounds. First time using tri tren so can only assume it's that. I maybe wrong.

I'm going to monitor the situation and see how it goes.

Could be due to excessive carbs in week one bloating me out. Since monday iv'e been on just meat and veg with porridge for breakfast. Around 6 to 7 small but filling meals a day.

I normally do HCG through out cycle at 500iu a week. Since starteing this cycle it's been higher at around 750 which may have risen the E. Will be dropping down to 500iu again.

I'm injecting twice a week 200mg of test and 75 mg tren each time so total of 400 mg test and 150mg tren.

Surely tren is supposed to harden you up and not bloat you? Anyones opinions form their experience is welcome.

Tren definitelt shouldnt bloat you... it's the test and/or food intake. Maybe you're a bit sensitive, sodium seems to rise form test and normally for me it's just the first weeks.
 
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Yeah maybe. I've managed to sort the bloat out. But have a gyno flare up. Puffy nips, no hard lump but feels like swollen glands around the nipple area.

Not sure what's causing it. May have to stop the tren.

I started 400mg test 150mg tri tren per week. Bumped tren up to 300mg per week and the gyno symptoms / puffy nips started.

They gyno sometimes calms down and goes away then comes back.

I've been using adex 0.5 EOD and caber 0.5 twice a week.

Test give a gyno, tren increases prolactin. Both of these together can give quite strong gyno.
 
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Got bloods done.

My estro is higher above normal range.

Prolactine and progesterone lower belie normal range.

Test is high above normal range.

I'll post the figures at some point.

So it's not the tren but aromatisation.
I'll increase the adex but I don't see why this issue occurred in first place.

I'll probably take half or a whole 1mg tab everyday. Hopefully the adex isn't bunk.

Got some 6 bromo which may cone in handy.

Thinking maybe get letro.

Any thoughts would be welcomed.

Don't take too much adex.
 
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My advice is to lower test. Personally I don't think you'll need more than max 300. What week are you on?
 
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Test at 400 (with tren) there's no point having test higher than tren. You either go equal on both or higher on tren. More test is more estrogen=more sides /more bloat. You have gyno cause of the test wether you think its high or not.
 
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Ok I have a question. I am new to this forum. I'm on my forth cycle right now. I'm taking about 500mg split into two doses of test e a week with no issues. I know a lot of people think food rage is a myth but when I throw tren ace into the mix at about 60 to 70 mg a day. I have some severe mood swings and makes me dwell on things that shouldn't bother me. Well at least as much as they do. It was affecting my marriage so I smashed one of the bottles to show my wife I wouldn't take it anymore but I was thinking maybe if I cut the dose in half I could get around it somehow. I know some people have these problems with ten and some say it's bull but remember we are messing with our brain chemistry by adding all these hormones and different things affect different people in different ways. So my question is do you know of any ways to lessen this particular side affect?
 
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How long till the groggyness from mk677 goes away after starting ?
 
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Not even a ballpark at 25 mg a day
Nope. Pointless for me to guesstimate. I didn’t get any residual grogginess from even 40 mg of MK-677. If the sleep hangover really affects you then you can take it during the day. Pre-bed dosing is not required to reap benefits.
 
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Nope. Pointless for me to guesstimate. I didn’t get any residual grogginess from even 40 mg of MK-677. If the sleep hangover really affects you then you can take it during the day. Pre-bed dosing is not required to reap benefits.
Ok thanks iff it persists ill try that but its only day one
 
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I came across a nice stockpile of Equipoise....ive never ran it with my test before....whats a good weekly dose..heard it should be dose high....im unsure about it, but got a insane deal i couldnt pass up....may just hand them out for xmas..lol
 
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I've never tried it but I'm gonna include it in my next cycle. Think I'm gonna run deca for the first 8 weeks then eq for 8 weeks. Both along with my test of course. Never done deca before either. Just test, tren, stanozol, dbol and anadrol. About to start my masterone soon. Eq is supposed to make you more hungry and more vascular and put on lean mass but not super fast from what I hear.
 

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