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nothing...that's what we've all been saying... they literally tweaked the select formula by removing the gums and replacing with other flavorings
Thx for confirming this, I did t go through the all discussion cs didn't have time but thx mate.

Yeah I mean, I would have expected it to be a mix and in that way it would have make sense :)
 
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Looks like thinner, less gummy texture to me. I think Solution noticed that as well based on ingredients.

There are some companies that make single serving oatmeal cups with 20g of protein, although the sugar is higher.
Agree, I'm sure that quality wise it must be a very good product and maybe much better than the others out there but still I'm a bit.... like disappointed cause if it was mixed and ready it could have been much more practical...

On a side note, those flavours are BT available within the PES protein line so...
 
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Interesting coinckidence that Syn's and Mr.Cooper's departures happened at a time when the company took a distinct turn towards prioritizing the Marketing & Finance departments over R&D...
 
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I had two scoops of Peanut Butter Cookie in my Oats this morning, mixed well, tasted great !!

I have had Proats for breakfast almost everyday since 1983 !!
 
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Looks like thinner, less gummy texture to me. I think Solution noticed that as well based on ingredients.

There are some companies that make single serving oatmeal cups with 20g of protein, although the sugar is higher.
This.... well soon find out when we read reviews but the formula is 100% the same minus the gum which iS a thickener

Look at the formula
its the exact same as regular select - the gums... Gums as we know help thicken a protein powder. These may mix thinner (can't say that until someone or others try it), but that is what their inclusion is for.

protein for oats

** The peanut flour and honey is for the pb honey flavor, so yeah thats why it looks different**

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Hope this isn't the last insider deal before the usual Black Friday bonanza.
 
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I had two scoops of Peanut Butter Cookie in my Oats this morning, mixed well, tasted great !!

I have had Proats for breakfast almost everyday since 1983 !!
PB cookie mixes and tastes amazing with oars. Been using it daily with FCC for my shakes after the gym. Keeps me from burning out on 1 flavor and damn do I look forward to it everyday!
 
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PB cookie mixes and tastes amazing with oars. Been using it daily with FCC for my shakes after the gym. Keeps me from burning out on 1 flavor and damn do I look forward to it everyday!
I used the last of my Peanut Butter Cup yesterday, so this morning I checked out the stash and picked Peanut Butter Cookie !! Tomorrow I think I will Mix One Scoop PBC and One Scoop Blueberry..... It will be like PB&J Oats!!
 

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Guys guys guys. It's PES the most innovative company around. They made a great fat burner than changed so the masses will like it. They are smart. Now protein for oats omg!!!!
I am soooooooooooooooooo pumped for this.

Oh wait no I am not
 
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Interesting coinckidence that Syn's and Mr.Cooper's departures happened at a time when the company took a distinct turn towards prioritizing the Marketing & Finance departments over R&D...
This.

I remember when I used to enthusiastically tell people about PES.

Something definitely changed.
 
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I was sitting at the doctor's office when I got this email. I opened it and literally laughed out loud with people starring at me.
 
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Waiting for the Insider selling a water you can all use to mix your protein and oats.
 
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It is one thing to launch a protein oatmeal as a product (there are literally dozens of products like this out there), but actually it is proats without the oats. So it is innovative after all. Next product will be protein for cookies. Just add a scoop to your cookie dough and you get a protein cookie :D
 
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I used the last of my Peanut Butter Cup yesterday, so this morning I checked out the stash and picked Peanut Butter Cookie !! Tomorrow I think I will Mix One Scoop PBC and One Scoop Blueberry..... It will be like PB&J Oats!!
Oh boy that does sound intriguing. Report back! :)
 
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I love blueberry jelly and have actually mixed that into PBC Select oats. I used to get it at this Mennonite-run shop but Smuckers makes one too.

Btw I am taking this as confirmation that PEScience has figured out how to make apple cinnamon Select and hope to see that available in regular sized Select tubs at some point. :)
 
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I love blueberry jelly and have actually mixed that into PBC Select oats. I used to get it at this Mennonite-run shop but Smuckers makes one too.

Btw I am taking this as confirmation that PEScience has figured out how to make apple cinnamon Select and hope to see that available in regular sized Select tubs at some point. :)
Can't remember if it's one of the highly requested flavors.
 
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but but but.....
ok just for u bro I got u
remember tho it's not even proat
I'm not even buying so I do not need to know lol

Ya I got what you mean. Don't have to take it too personally when they don't launch the product that you and I want. Not easy to make everyone happy. Just wait for the next insider.

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What the heck happened in here? Why are people getting personally offended by the fact PES is doing a protein for oats?

Moreover, why are some people making personal insults over this?

Crazy lol.

Id love to know what the difference is taste wise for these in oats
 

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Going to pass on this. Just doesn't work out cost per serving for me.

27 serving Select $19.99 = 648g protein
24 serving of this stuff $19.98 = 360g protein

45% less protein

"Classic" oatmeal flavors are neat but not worth it for me. YMMV
 
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I love blueberry jelly and have actually mixed that into PBC Select oats. I used to get it at this Mennonite-run shop but Smuckers makes one too.

Btw I am taking this as confirmation that PEScience has figured out how to make apple cinnamon Select and hope to see that available in regular sized Select tubs at some point. :)
Just add a pinch of xanthan gum and you've got Select!

Also, I'm pretty sure the bashing is mostly due to this being hyped so much. This should never be called an industry first. That's a joke. Sad launch in my opinion. And if PES doesn't want customer feedback, then that's on them. Vocal feedback allows a good company to understand what went wrong and make changes.
 
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Just add a pinch of xanthan gum and you've got Select!

Also, I'm pretty sure the bashing is mostly due to this being hyped so much. This should never be called an industry first. That's a joke. Sad launch in my opinion. And if PES doesn't want customer feedback, then that's on them. Vocal feedback allows a good company to understand what went wrong and make changes.
I would rather they spent the time to create another Select flavor which is HIGHLY requested compared to the proats.
 
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Hey gang, you have to keep in mind that many of us on the forums make up a small albeit enthusiastic percentage of the PES base. When I mentioned the new product to the lady of the house and some of her friends (who are not hardcore fitness enthusiasts) , they said "wow, that sounds so good". Based on that response, I tend to think that's the target audience for this go around.
 
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What the heck happened in here? Why are people getting personally offended by the fact PES is doing a protein for oats?

Moreover, why are some people making personal insults over this?

Crazy lol.

Id love to know what the difference is taste wise for these in oats
I blame the liberals and millenials! ;)

For real though like I mentioned before not every release will please everyone and we know that. Plenty more to come this year so everyone just sit tight and maybe you will have your release before long.

Our line is expanding each year and growth of any sort is good for everyone.
 
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Hey gang, you have to keep in mind that many of us on the forums make up a small albeit enthusiastic percentage of the PES base. When I mentioned the new product to the lady of the house and some of her friends (who are not hardcore fitness enthusiasts) , they said "wow, that sounds so good". Based on that response, I tend to think that's the target audience for this go around.
Also a very good point and another I touched base on in the same post I referred to before. This forum is a very small portion of our customer base. Of course there's a few things I would have like to have seen released with this insider but I'm excited for these flavors and am an daily proats eater so I can for sure use this one.
 
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I blame the liberals and millenials! ;)

For real though like I mentioned before not every release will please everyone and we know that. Plenty more to come this year so everyone just sit tight and maybe you will have your release before long.

Our line is expanding each year and growth of any sort is good for everyone.
I'm hoping there's another flavor of Select coming later this year and it's not WCM.
 
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27 serving Select $19.99 = 648g protein
24 serving of this stuff $19.98 = 360g protein

45% less protein
It's almost like they found a way to half their Material costs...surely that was not a motivating factor.
 
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It's already been shown that this math is incorrect
Somebody needs a math lesson...

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12srv, 15g/srv = 180g/tub @ insider price of $9.99... so 2 tubs, $19.98 for 360g

Regular select:
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27srv, 24g/srv = 648g/tub at insider price of $19.99

Yay math.
 
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"Fake math"
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Going to pass on this. Just doesn't work out cost per serving for me.

27 serving Select $19.99 = 648g protein
24 serving of this stuff $19.98 = 360g protein

45% less protein

"Classic" oatmeal flavors are neat but not worth it for me. YMMV
Ahhh, yeah I see. Based on a comparable amount of servings
 
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I'm hoping there's another flavor of Select coming later this year and it's not WCM.
Although I love the season drop and restock of WCM! Looking forward to some new flavor drops as well though. :)
 
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That's why I was wondering.... what's the point? lol
 
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Interesting coinckidence that Syn's and Mr.Cooper's departures happened at a time when the company took a distinct turn towards prioritizing the Marketing & Finance departments over R&D...
If you are implying those two leaving the company is causation for our change of direction I can say with confidence you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about lol.

Cooper didn't have time to do both whilst working in medicine so he had to leave. Out of respect to Synapsin I won't discuss the terms of him leaving but if you think he was largely responsible for any of our previous formulations you are incorrect. You would also be incorrect if you think his presence had any bearing on our product releases.

Guys guys guys. It's PES the most innovative company around. They made a great fat burner than changed so the masses will like it. They are smart. Now protein for oats omg!!!!
I am soooooooooooooooooo pumped for this.

Oh wait no I am not
Brian, with all due respect we have done more for innovation than most companies out there.

We were the first company to bring anacyclus pyrethrum to market following a very extensive beta test on the forum. We were also the first to bring higenamine to market after doing another thorough forum beta test. Alphamine was the powdered thermogenic that literally sparked the wave of companies copying the format. We also have flavour innovations like snickerdoodle.

All of these things have been widely copied and this isn't even an extensive list.

You not viewing this particular release as innovative is fine but don't pretend we are one of the million run of the mill companies that get their R&D from looking at other company's product releases.

That's why I was wondering.... what's the point? lol
I said the same thing when we discussed the formula. Why bother releasing a protein powder specifically for oats when Select tastes so good in oats?

Then I tried Protein 4 Oats and instantly changed my mind. The flavouring is so good it made me feel disappointed when I went back to using regular Select in my oatmeal.

We can't release a flavour that is the best on the market in both oatmeal and shakes, they require different flavouring and sweetener intensities.

Protein 4 Oats is the best protein I have ever added to oatmeal by a huge margin. You absolutely shouldn't try and drink it in a shake though. :)
 
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What the heck happened in here? Why are people getting personally offended by the fact PES is doing a protein for oats?

Moreover, why are some people making personal insults over this?

Crazy lol.

Id love to know what the difference is taste wise for these in oats
It is often the same people in the thread every time we release a product.

In terms of flavouring, there is a huge difference between this and regular Select. I actually argued against the release originally because I didn't see the point but we continued the flavouring exercise to see if we could come out with something epic.

If it tasted around as good as Select does in oatmeal we wouldn't have bothered releasing a new product, we could have just released them as new flavours. Taste wise though these are next level and warranted their own release. :)
 
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If you are implying those two leaving the company is causation for our change of direction I can say with confidence you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about lol.

Cooper didn't have time to do both whilst working in medicine so he had to leave. Out of respect to Synapsin I won't discuss the terms of him leaving but if you think he was largely responsible for any of our previous formulations you are incorrect. You would also be incorrect if you think his presence had any bearing on our product releases.



Brian, with all due respect we have done more for innovation than most companies out there.

We were the first company to bring anacyclus pyrethrum to market following a very extensive beta test on the forum. We were also the first to bring higenamine to market after doing another thorough forum beta test. Alphamine was the powdered thermogenic that literally sparked the wave of companies copying the format. We also have flavour innovations like snickerdoodle.

All of these things have been widely copied and this isn't even an extensive list.

You not viewing this particular release as innovative is fine but don't pretend we are one of the million run of the mill companies that get their R&D from looking at other company's product releases.



I said the same thing when we discussed the formula. Why bother releasing a protein powder specifically for oats when Select tastes so good in oats?

Then I tried Protein 4 Oats and instantly changed my mind. The flavouring is so good it made me feel disappointed when I went back to using regular Select in my oatmeal.

We can't release a flavour that is the best on the market in both oatmeal and shakes, they require different flavouring and sweetener intensities.

Protein 4 Oats is the best protein I have ever added to oatmeal by a huge margin. You absolutely shouldn't try and drink it in a shake though. :)
i'll try them then and let you know :p
 
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i'll try them then and let you know :p
Let's put it this way;

When I first tried Select, it made my existing favourite protein powder much less enjoyable to drink because it set a new standard.

When I first tried Protein 4 Oats, I felt the exact same way. Select in oatmeal is great and I use it daily but Protein 4 Oats is much better for that dedicated purpose.

We will also be doing single serving bags which work well for travelling i.e. people who eat breakfast at their office or are on the road a lot.

Make no mistake, this is a very commercial product because we have designed it to be appealing to a wide audience, not necessarily just a sports nutrition sector. :)
 
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Let's put it this way;

When I first tried Select, it made my existing favourite protein powder much less enjoyable to drink because it set a new standard.

When I first tried Protein 4 Oats, I felt the exact same way. Select in oatmeal is great and I use it daily but Protein 4 Oats is much better for that dedicated purpose.

We will also be doing single serving bags which work well for travelling i.e. people who eat breakfast at their office or are on the road a lot.

Make no mistake, this is a very commercial product because we have designed it to be appealing to a wide audience, not necessarily just a sports nutrition sector. :)
especially cause if you look at the labels... a sport nutrition guy would say.... hand on a second.... select got more proteins are great and cost less..... so.... guess I'll be trying them but they are not gonna be my go to while select at the same time are ALWAYS present in my kitchen ;)
 

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If you are implying those two leaving the company is causation for our change of direction I can say with confidence you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about lol.

Cooper didn't have time to do both whilst working in medicine so he had to leave. Out of respect to Synapsin I won't discuss the terms of him leaving but if you think he was largely responsible for any of our previous formulations you are incorrect. You would also be incorrect if you think his presence had any bearing on our product releases.



Brian, with all due respect we have done more for innovation than most companies out there.

We were the first company to bring anacyclus pyrethrum to market following a very extensive beta test on the forum. We were also the first to bring higenamine to market after doing another thorough forum beta test. Alphamine was the powdered thermogenic that literally sparked the wave of companies copying the format. We also have flavour innovations like snickerdoodle.

All of these things have been widely copied and this isn't even an extensive list.

You not viewing this particular release as innovative is fine but don't pretend we are one of the million run of the mill companies that get their R&D from looking at other company's product releases.



I said the same thing when we discussed the formula. Why bother releasing a protein powder specifically for oats when Select tastes so good in oats?

Then I tried Protein 4 Oats and instantly changed my mind. The flavouring is so good it made me feel disappointed when I went back to using regular Select in my oatmeal.

We can't release a flavour that is the best on the market in both oatmeal and shakes, they require different flavouring and sweetener intensities.

Protein 4 Oats is the best protein I have ever added to oatmeal by a huge margin. You absolutely shouldn't try and drink it in a shake though. :)
So Ben you are telling me PES has been different from all companies. In the beginning yes you were. Than you removed hica from amino iv, because the color was bad. Than Alphamine and Norco got reformulated for the worse. Come on man really. Than this. It's a protein powder that can be added to oatmeal. Can I add it to anything else, like yogurt or oatmeal only?

What happens if I drink It do I not get my gainzzz or no. Just curious
 
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So Ben you are telling me PES has been different from all companies. In the beginning yes you were. Than you removed hica from amino iv, because the color was bad. Than Alphamine and Norco got reformulated for the worse. Come on man really. Than this. It's a protein powder that can be added to oatmeal. Can I add it to anything else, like yogurt or oatmeal only?

What happens if I drink It do I not get my gainzzz or no. Just curious
shall we talk about removing pepform and changing the type of proteins in the PES Select European version??? :p
 

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