Game of Thrones Season 7 ... Who is In???

MidwestBeast said:
I heard next season (or the second half of this one; however they decide to classify the break) is supposed to be all 2 hour episodes -- anyone else heard that? That was the first I had and it seems hard to believe, but would be epic.
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Only thing i heard was that the 2nd half isnt out for 2 years
 
One more day...
 
Episode 5 Eastwatch:
- Dragon Queen asks Lannister's men to bend the knee and join her, or die
- The dragon burns 2 of Lannister's men who refuse to bend the knee
- Lannister informs cersi about his army getting burned to the dragon queen's army.
- Snow is able to walk up and greet a dragon without it turning on him.
- Braun is found looking past the wall through raven's eyes to spot the army of the dead
- Snow gets a letter about Braun & Arya are still alive and at the wall.
- Tyrion wants to try and take a white walker to Kings lading to prove to cersi they are real.
- Snow asks Dragon queen to trust in him about the white walkers and defeating them.
- Jamie Lannister meets up with Tyrion in Kings Landing
- Gengry (Robert Baratheon's Son) the weapon maker Sir Davos takes from Kings Landing
- John Snow accepts Gangry to help him as a smith.
- Snow leaves the island of the Dragon Queen to head back to the wall
- Arya finds a letter underneath a bed
- Snow is asking the wildlings & the hound for help


Episode 6 Sneak Peak:
- Huge scenes of battles with the white walkers.
- Trailer ends with knight king
 
Sam's wife was talking about how Rhaegar had his marriage annulled in secret before Sam flipped out. I'm pretty sure that it was hinting that Rhaegar was married to Lyanna Stark when he died, meaning Jon Snow is a true Targaryen with a claim to the throne.
 
Martyfnemec said:
Sam's wife was talking about how Rhaegar had his marriage annulled in secret before Sam flipped out. I'm pretty sure that it was hinting that Rhaegar was married to Lyanna Stark when he died, meaning Jon Snow is a true Targaryen with a claim to the throne.
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And speaking of Sam, he lost his dad and brother. He is the last remaining person to carry on the Tarly name.
 
Random thoughts:

1. So With Jon being the rightful heir, it looks like at some point Dany and Jon will clash, although Jon will not want the throne, it will like usual be his cross to bear. If Dany gets more and more "mad," it could really come into play, especially if Dany gives the North the "bend the knee or die in dragonfire" routine. Of course, the could end up marrying, which would eliminate the competition between the two. I am curious to see how both of them take the news that he is a Targ and actually the rightful ruler over her.

2. Littlefinger is pulling strings and Arya is acting pretty irrationally. Arya has pretty much had a stunted childhood and violence has been the answer to everything. She now is in a tough position because Littlefinger is playing her. She and Sansa are going to fight because of the letter (that Cersei pretty much ghost wrote through her) and Littlefinger is the person who wins there. However, Bran is there and sees all. I wonder if Bran will insert himself into that situation. I can't help but feel like Arya is going to kill Littlefinger. I just don't know when. Bran is definitely worried about beating the White Walkers and surely a division between his sisters caused by a letter taken out of context can't help with that.

3. Cersei is pregnant? But the prophecy only had her having three kids? Maybe... a miscarriage is coming? Cersei is supposed to have three kids and be choked to death by her little brother (could be Jaime or Tyrion). Does she miscarry and go completely off the rails forcing Jaime to kill her? Or is it someone else's other than Jaime's and he just has enough of her and chokes her to death, thus meaning the child is never born because she dies? Or... is she lying about the pregnancy and the choking is yet to come? Hmm...

4. Gendry is back... and The Hound has met up with Jon as well. Pretty much every character I like is going on the expedition north to get a white walker and that is not good. Someone is due to die. They can't ALL live. It could be Gendry or the Hound... It could be Ser Davos, who by his own admission is not a fighter (I hope it isn't him). It could be Tormund or Jorah. It could be the God of Light guys. We have been fortunate to not lose anyone we care about in a while. I feel like that has to change. Seriously. How stupid is this plan?
 
Martyfnemec said:
Random thoughts:

4. Gendry is back... and The Hound has met up with Jon as well. Pretty much every character I like is going on the expedition north to get a white walker and that is not good. Someone is due to die. They can't ALL live. It could be Gendry or the Hound... It could be Ser Davos, who by his own admission is not a fighter (I hope it isn't him). It could be Tormund or Jorah. It could be the God of Light guys. We have been fortunate to not lose anyone we care about in a while. I feel like that has to change. Seriously. How stupid is this plan?
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Gendry likes using hammers. Hammers won't do jack crap on white walkers. Unless he can forge one with dragon glass which i doubt or somehow infuse it with fire. So he may be SOL with a weapon that can defeat white walkers.
 
What about ol Sam hittin the road? Where do we think he's headed? To Jon?
 
The Solution said:
Gendry likes using hammers. Hammers won't do jack crap on white walkers. Unless he can forge one with dragon glass which i doubt or somehow infuse it with fire. So he may be SOL with a weapon that can defeat white walkers.
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I enjoyed the callback to his dad, Robert Baratheon, who was world famous for kicking a** with a hammer... but it still doesn't make sense beyond that. Hammers shouldn't really be that effective against the walkers, even if it they were made of dragon glass, and why would he have trained to get good at fighting with a hammer when he is a blacksmith? Or at least good enough to trust himself going to fight walkers and coming out alive. The person who taught him everything he knows was able to create Valyrian steel weapons and one of the best blacksmiths in the world. I assume that is the reason for his reappearance, although they haven't shown how good of a blacksmith Gendry actually is at this pont. So why they are sending him past the wall when he is so important is beyond me.
 
MidwestBeast said:
What about ol Sam hittin the road? Where do we think he's headed? To Jon?
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I didn't even think of that. That is a good point. I assume he is riding for Winterfell to wait for Jon. I can't imagine he would just show up at Dany's stronghold on Blackstone with no invitation or anything.
 
Martyfnemec said:
I enjoyed the callback to his dad, Robert Baratheon, who was world famous for kicking a** with a hammer... but it still doesn't make sense beyond that. Hammers shouldn't really be that effective against the walkers, even if it they were made of dragon glass, and why would he have trained to get good at fighting with a hammer when he is a blacksmith? Or at least good enough to trust himself going to fight walkers and coming out alive. The person who taught him everything he knows was able to create Valyrian steel weapons and one of the best blacksmiths in the world. I assume that is the reason for his reappearance, although they haven't shown how good of a blacksmith Gendry actually is at this pont. So why they are sending him past the wall when he is so important is beyond me.
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Going past the wall in the first place = Not smart.. Use the wall just like when snow had the battle and drop balls of fire off the wall onto the white walkers. That is the fastest and quickest way to destroy them.
 
Another episode leak and HBO Spain accidentally did it themselves!
 
Martyfnemec said:
Sam's wife was talking about how Rhaegar had his marriage annulled in secret before Sam flipped out. I'm pretty sure that it was hinting that Rhaegar was married to Lyanna Stark when he died, meaning Jon Snow is a true Targaryen with a claim to the throne.
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Yes. We knew already from season 6 that Jon was a Targaryen, Child to Rheagar. But we did not know that Rheagar and Lyanna got married in secret. Which make Jon not a bastard, but legitimately a Targaryen/Stark.

But I don't think Jon cares so much about having the rightful right to the throne or ruling the Seven Kingdoms.

He would properly pass it over to Daenerys, his aunt.
 
Wow is all I can say to that episode. I will wait until Sunday night to talk about it.
 
The Solution said:
I personally would like to wait for Sunday for the nice incoming battle with the white walkers. Makes enjoying my ice cream that much better ;)
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I'm a weak person. That being said, I didn't see the scenes for the next episode yet so watching this week's episode again and then seeing the previews for the next one still has same just as excited.

And the ice cream is very fitting. I hope it's (terrible pun coming) white walkolate.

Oh, God. I'm so sorry for that one.
 
Episode 6: Beyond the Wall
- Arya reads the letter she found from Sansa, and gets upset about their previous matters with Joeffry
- Arya and Sansa batter back and forth and Arya walks away
- The hound does not get along with the wildlings outside the wall
- The Dragon queen and Tyrion talk about going to Kings Landing
- Snow and his men run into wolves that are fiends of the white walkers
- Sansa and Littlefinger have a discussion about Arya and their relationship
- Snow and his men Spot the army of the dead
- Snow and men run into thin ice that starts breaking
- A large portion of the white walkers break through the ice
- Gendry makes it back to the wall to inform them about Snow
- Snow and men are circled with white walkers around the broken ice
- The dragon queen flies off to go find Snow
- The hound lures the whitewalkers
- The dragon queen flames the white walker army to ashes
- the knight king uses his spear and kills a dragon
- Snow was taken underwater but makes his way back to find his sword
- Snow is rescued by a horse from a character from the first episode of season 1 who defeated some white walkers
- The rest of snow's men flew away on the dragon
- Sansa finds the faces that Arya took from Bravos and explains the games of faces
- The dragon queen wants to destroy the white walkers army with snow
- The white walkers use chains to drag the dead dragon and then turn it into the army of the dead





Next week is the last episode of this season .
 
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The Solution said:
Episode 6: Beyond the Wall
- Arya reads the letter she found from Sansa, and gets upset about their previous matters with Joeffry
- Arya and Sansa batter back and forth and Arya walks away
- The hound does not get along with the wildlings outside the wall
- The Dragon queen and Tyrion talk about going to Kings Landing
- Snow and his men run into wolves that are fiends of the white walkers
- Sansa and Littlefinger have a discussion about Arya and their relationship
- Snow and his men Spot the army of the dead
- Snow and men run into thin ice that starts breaking
- A large portion of the white walkers break through the ice
- Gendry makes it back to the wall to inform them about Snow
- Snow and men are circled with white walkers around the broken ice
- The dragon queen flies off to go find Snow
- The hound lures the whitewalkers
- The dragon queen flames the white walker army to ashes
- the knight king uses his spear and kills a dragon
- Snow was taken underwater but makes his way back to find his sword
- Snow is rescued by a horse from a character from the first episode of season 1 who defeated some white walkers
- The rest of snow's men flew away on the dragon
- Sansa finds the faces that Arya took from Bravos and explains the games of faces
- The dragon queen wants to destroy the white walkers army with snow
- The white walkers use chains to drag the dead dragon and then turn it into the army of the dead





Next week is the last episode of this season .
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And Jon bends the knee to Dany, well not literally because he is bed-bound currently.
 
The Solution said:
Did not want to give away the soap opera :)
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I gotcha.

I didn't want Jon to kneel... but I get it. She did totally save him and the rest of the crew on that terrible idea. However, I'd also argue he saved her and one of her dragons by sacrificing himself with the intention of dying. Luckily for everyone, a knight in shining armor and a flaming chain lamp of justice came and saved him. Now the next question is... when do we find out about Jon's rightful claim to the throne?

And I am pretty interested in the fact that Sansa sent Brienne south to represent the North at Cersei's gathering. It should be inconsequential as Jon Snow himself will be showing up, but Littlefinger instructed her to keep Brienne around as she is probably Sansa's only defense against Arya if it comes to violence. But a couple scenes later, there is Sansa sending Brienne off... And when is Bran going to be useful? Geez. SOMEBODY TELL SOMEONE THAT JON IS A TARGARYEN!

And I love the stink everyone is throwing on the White Walkers getting those chains. I think it is plausible. They obviously are able to somehow craft or find weapons so theoretically they could have forged the chains, or maybe they just found them at an abandoned fortress. People get so hung up on little details. I also get the criticism about the Night King not throwing the spear at the dragon on the ground with Dany or not showing up when Jon Snow and company were stranded on that island. He certainly could have killed them all if he chose to. I'm taking all of that as that he didn't want to kill them. Either he was messing with them or he wanted to send a message and allowed them to escape to go spread word of them. Maybe he wants a challenge and for the civilized land south of the wall to be ready for them? I'm leaning toward the latter because the first spear throw was much more complicated than the throw he missed as Dany and company flew away.

I can't believe it is already the season finale. They could have did a 10 episode season and spread some of the plot a little more. :/
 
I know. My wife was fighting tears. Haha.
 
Okay.. so Season Finale incoming. I think we are in store for some big moments during this 80-minute thriller.

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I strongly think a certain character is going to die.

I don't think I'm out of line for saying it as it has been already been discussed on here. I believe Littlefinger has played the game perfectly. I think if Bran was not in Winterfell, Littlefinger would successfully have the lords switch allegiances to Sansa and, more importantly, have Arya think it was Sansa's doing. He would put the sisters against each other, causing Sansa to probably do something drastic like sentence Arya to death or have her banished as she would undoubtedly try to kill Sansa... but Bran is there. Bran is a complete wildcard who knows everything that has happened and is happening. He knows of Littlefinger's involvement in pretty much everything bad that has happened to the Starks. Bran can, and maybe even already has, tell Sansa these things. He could even tell Sansa of the actual manipulation with that message that Littlefinger baited Arya with.

Littlefinger is playing a political game and has completely discounted Bran's magical powers. There has to be a big moment in this episode. Someone has to die. I am going all in on it being Littlefinger.

And giving credit where it was due, Wimsicle predicted this first, but I didn't super-cash in on the idea until some more things happened in the show to set it up.
 
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I agree somebody is going to die and think Littlefinger is the safe choice. If they were still going off the books (if George RR Martin could actually finish) they would have already killed off more major characters.
For me though, the bigger prediction is:
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Aleksandar37 said:
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I agree somebody is going to die and think Littlefinger is the safe choice. If they were still going off the books (if George RR Martin could actually finish) they would have already killed off more major characters.
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I 1,000,000% believe the last shot of the season will be the zombie dragon burning a hole in the wall. I don't know the logistics of how a Wight Dragon who should be weak to dragonfire is going to shoot dragonfire, but I can't see a more fitting last shot.
 
Martyfnemec said:
I 1,000,000% believe the last shot of the season will be the zombie dragon burning a hole in the wall. I don't know the logistics of how a Wight Dragon who should be weak to dragonfire is going to shoot dragonfire, but I can't see a more fitting last shot.
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Same. There's a dragon, so don't get too hung up on the physics lol
 
still haven't watched the last episode, been to busy, probably tomorrow night as I nerd out on fantasy football rankings i'll put it on
 
Me waiting for the finale tonight:

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Season Finale Episode #7: (The Dragon & The Wolf)
- Episode starts with the unsullied army on the Lannister's army front wall
- The targarians storm in behind the unsullied army
- The Hound, Snow, and the rest of the crew march on Kings Landing
- Cersi & Jamie Lannister meets up wth Snow, Hound, and the rest of the crew
- Dani flies in on her dragons to the meeting
- Meeting starts with a threat of killing Theon's Sister
- The hound released a white walker in front of Cersi, and shows her that the dead are real.
- The king of the north can't choose sides until the battle with the dead is over (Truce Cersi pledges)
- Snow refuses and says he has pledged himself to Dani and the Dragon Queen
- Cersi gets up and leaves and says we will deal with the dead as is
- Tyrion wants to speak to Cersi himself to see if he can talk her into a deal
- Tyrion hints to queen cersi to have him killed
- Tyrion gets Queen Cersi to come back to talk to Dani & Snow
- Cersi says they will march together and fight the war against the dead and white walkers
- LIttlefinger says that both Jon and dani are single and unmarried so that could be a reason for alliance (his thought)
- Snow & Dani will sail to the white harbour together
- Theon wants to find Yara and set her free
- Theon kills ones of his members who tried to beat him
- Sansa accuses littlefinger of murder and pushing someone through the moon door & the death with using poison.
- Littlefinger says Sansa's aunt was troubled and tried to refuse these accusations , and he denies all these charges
- Braun tells everyone that he is lying and quoted exactly what he said in regards to his help the Lannisters and how Littlefinger turned their family against each otehr
- Arya slices littlefingers throat
- Cersi admits to Jamie that she is lying to ally with Dani & Snow
- Cersi is pregnant with Jamie's kid
- Jamie admits that they cant beat the targarians and unsullied, and if they dont ally the dead will kill them or the living will kill them.
- Sam returns to the wall
- Braun says Jon is born on the family line of ragar targarian, and his last name is not really Snow
- Braun sees that Dani & Jon both love each other,
- Braun also claims Jon is the air to the Iron throne and that sam and him need to tell Jon
- The dead are marching towards the wall
- The dead use their dragon to help flame down the wall
- The wall falls and that ends season 7
 
You guys were right on your predictions. Solid episode and can't wait for the final season now.
 
So much to chew on now. Jamie has left Cersei. Where does that leave him in the Game of Thrones? Cersei will surely hate him for daring to defy her and Euron will become her king (unless he screws her over first), but that doesn't mean the north will really want him either. At this point, him and Bronn (I'm guessing he went too) are just a third party without an allegiance to either queen. Of course, many of Jamie's soldiers probably will be aligned with Cersei still. I am unsure how this will play out. Jamie isn't exactly turning on Cersei at this point. He is just going to fight for the side of the living against the dead. I hope the North can convert him, though. He's been through a lot because of Cersei and I think there is enough good in him that maybe Brienne of Tarth can bring it out of him.

Sam and Bran both now know that Jon is the true heir to the Iron Throne. With Jon and Dany heading toward Winterfell, I hope they actually get to tell everyone that. I'm sure they will as it will bring a lot of drama to Jon and Dany's relationship... but the show might also choose to have Jon told in private so only he knows, but Dany and everyone else still doesn't. That would be infuriating as well. Just get it out there!

And where does that leave Sanza? She now has gotten the support of the North and even seems to have Arya's backing. Now Jon is going to roll into town and be like "alright, guys. Here is your new queen, Daenarys!" I can see the Northmen go "No, Sanza will be our queen now, traitor!" Of course, that conversation will probably be tabled to fight the WW, but are they going to find out Jon is the rightful ruler before that? That would be funny. "We will never bow to a foreign invader. You are not our king and she is not our queen. Sanza is our queen! Oh, wait. You're the rightful heir to the throne and are also the son of a Stark still? Well... KING IN DA NORTH! KING IN DA NORTH!"
 
Got to admit I wasn't a fan of that finale, it seemed to drag for me, all the stuff at kings landing was boring imo

the ice dragon > fire dragons though

I'm also not happy that the red head wildling was on the wall, he was one of my favorite characters, so it's not plausible that hes alive, even if he did survive the dead should of killed him and him and the Breanne storyline is dead

At this point I'm rooting for the white walkers to take the iron throne
 
Young Gotti said:
Got to admit I wasn't a fan of that finale, it seemed to drag for me, all the stuff at kings landing was boring imo

the ice dragon > fire dragons though

I'm also not happy that the red head wildling was on the wall, he was one of my favorite characters, so it's not plausible that hes alive, even if he did survive the dead should of killed him and him and the Breanne storyline is dead

At this point I'm rooting for the white walkers to take the iron throne
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I think Tormund and Beric are still alive as they weren't shown to have died and the White Walkers didn't storm the wall to kill the survivors. They marched right through and completely ignored the soldiers there. Many did die in the destruction of that section of the wall, but I just feel like they would have shown them die if they did. Of course, it would be insane if as the dead army marches on Winterfell, we see a zombie Tormund and zombie Beric holding his flaming sword, except it's blue like Viserion's flame breath.

I also think that the Brienne storyline with Jamie might be rekindled, as she obviously is in love with him. Tormund being a part of it would only make it better and funner, though. Or who knows? Maybe Brienne will fall for the unsubtle and aggressive charm of Tormund and they will produce some of the biggest babies Westeros has ever seen!
 
bosskardo said:
Also, so Jon did his aunt?
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Yupp...i think when he said to her that the person who told her she was unable to have children may have been a poor source of information was foreshadowing too. I think they may have conceived a child there, so much incest in GoT!
 
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