FOLLIDRONE 2.0 FAQ Updated follidrone writeup and info***

bigsmall said:
Depending on your intake, you may not need to adjust anything, but I would make sure you have intra carbs. FD2 no matter what your goal requires more food. So dont be afraid to turn up the calories - even if you are starting a cut. Its difficult to lose scale weight, but expected body composition changes happen.
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Cool. Thanks !
 
I have been taking fd2 for about 4 months straight, I have lost 10 lbs without really any diet changes, lifts are going up consistently. Out of the blue yesterday, my wife mentioned my bald spot was smaller, not like I can see it or really check. Guess ecklonia really does help with hair loss.
 
Rebel1978 said:
I have been taking fd2 for about 4 months straight, I have lost 10 lbs without really any diet changes, lifts are going up consistently. Out of the blue yesterday, my wife mentioned my bald spot was smaller, not like I can see it or really check. Guess ecklonia really does help with hair loss.
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It definitely helps thicken it up
 
muscleupcrohn said:
Over how long of a period do you drink this? That's a hell of a lot of BCAAs/Leucine; I find that 5g Leucine with some BCAAs/EAAs and ~40g Gatorade powder is a great intra-workout. I think I have to give FD2 a try soon, I've been thinking about giving it a go for a while now.
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Over an hour ish. Often there is still some left which I power down on the way home.

FD2 is pretty amazing stuff. Each ingredient is great by itself but combined its a real powerhouse.
 
coltonwalker said:
Should get my fd2 tomorrow. Starting on April. Suggestions as far as type and amount of carbs pre wo with 2 caps? 270lbs 6'2"
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Your pretty heavy so dont be afraid to really get down on some extra carbs. I think waxy maize or another fast burning carb source before, during, after training is a good idea. Because your bigger you burn more fuel so you can go hypo alot faster than say a 180lb guy. So I suggest sipping on carbs.
50g in a half gallon is not a ton of carbs but enough to keep you going.
You can adjust as needed.
 
Rebel1978 said:
I have been taking fd2 for about 4 months straight, I have lost 10 lbs without really any diet changes, lifts are going up consistently. Out of the blue yesterday, my wife mentioned my bald spot was smaller, not like I can see it or really check. Guess ecklonia really does help with hair loss.
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It seems like my hair has been growing more as well.

10lbs loss and strength going up is ALOT to experience from a supplement but to have it begin regrowing hair is like some harry potter ish.
Magic.
 
jt75 said:
Go for it muscleupcrohn it'll take your training to a new level
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I have a log for another product scheduled first, but I think I'll put FD2 next on the list to try after that.
brundel said:
Over an hour ish. Often there is still some left which I power down on the way home.

FD2 is pretty amazing stuff. Each ingredient is great by itself but combined its a real powerhouse.
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What is your reasoning behind such high doses of leucine/BCAAs, and what do you notice relative to, say 5g leucine and BCAAs/EAAs?
 
muscleupcrohn said:
I have a log for another product scheduled first, but I think I'll put FD2 next on the list to try after that.

What is your reasoning behind such high doses of leucine/BCAAs, and what do you notice relative to, say 5g leucine and BCAAs/EAAs?
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I drink it over time, it serves as both my intra and post, and my muscles are more full and I dont run out of gas while training.
Everyone is different though. Some can get away with less. Ive been doing this for years. The dose has changed over time. Started as gatorade powder and creatine and has evolved into what it is now.
 
UPDATE: finally a decent workout - I totally removed FD2.0 45min prewo and put it alongside a carb heavy snack at 7pm (I work out at 8:40pm). Snack was banana + orange + 4 Weetabix whole grain wheat biscuits.

- I took one cap FD2 pre-lunch (carb heavy), totally fine.
- Took the second cap pre-protein shake at 6pm, not fine at all, felt anxious, out of breath and just not good. I assumed protein shake by itself could raise insuline enough to counteract FD2.0, I was wrong I guess.
- Took the third cap alongside the carb heavy snack, things went better and Tr1umph + High Volume 45min prewo was finally easier on the stomach, instead of coupling it with FD2.0.

Next time I'll try one cap pre-lunch and 2 caps pre-heavy carb snack. I guess I have naturally very low blood glucose, since I feel FD2.0 so easily?
 
mrhankey87 said:
UPDATE: finally a decent workout - I totally removed FD2.0 45min prewo and put it alongside a carb heavy snack at 7pm (I work out at 8:40pm). Snack was banana + orange + 4 Weetabix whole grain wheat biscuits.

- I took one cap FD2 pre-lunch (carb heavy), totally fine.
- Took the second cap pre-protein shake at 6pm, not fine at all, felt anxious, out of breath and just not good. I assumed protein shake by itself could raise insuline enough to counteract FD2.0, I was wrong I guess.
- Took the third cap alongside the carb heavy snack, things went better and Tr1umph + High Volume 45min prewo was finally easier on the stomach, instead of coupling it with FD2.0.

Next time I'll try one cap pre-lunch and 2 caps pre-heavy carb snack. I guess I have naturally very low blood glucose, since I feel FD2.0 so easily?
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Your not the only one who has experienced low blood sugar taking the FD2.
And all of the effects your mentioning are hypoglycemia side effects so.....As long as you can tolerate it with food your good to go.
Im not sure how some people take it on an empty stomach and go train. Id fall over.

Also.....the blood glucose tests Ive seen indicate that blood glucose is DROPPING after a meal. I know this doesnt make sense but it seems to be happening. So imagine when you have not had any carbs at all!!!

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Quite honestly I had to start taking fd2 with food because of stomach upset. But recently I tried experimenting taking it without food and I have noticed it HITS way harder on an empty stomach especially pre workout. I just take about 50-60 grams of waxy maize Intra and I'm fine. I think epicatechin especially works better on an empty stomach. The other ingredients I don't think it matters, but the EPI which I have used multiple products in the past and have also experimented with empty and full stomach definitely is optimized better on an empty stomach. I'm telling you if you have hypo issues, go with waxy maize. It's messy as hell, but definitely does the trick as I have felt myself going hypo before on fd2.
 
I'll be starting mine in a couple of weeks and I use HBCD pre/intra workout, but not in the amounts you guys are talking about. Will be interesting to see how it hits me.
 
ttortman78 said:
Quite honestly I had to start taking fd2 with food because of stomach upset. But recently I tried experimenting taking it without food and I have noticed it HITS way harder on an empty stomach especially pre workout. I just take about 50-60 grams of waxy maize Intra and I'm fine. I think epicatechin especially works better on an empty stomach. The other ingredients I don't think it matters, but the EPI which I have used multiple products in the past and have also experimented with empty and full stomach definitely is optimized better on an empty stomach. I'm telling you if you have hypo issues, go with waxy maize. It's messy as hell, but definitely does the trick as I have felt myself going hypo before on fd2.
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Yah waxy maize is a mess but its worth it.
And I agree....if you can tolerate it less food and sipping on carbs while training is better for the epi.
 
travbedaman said:
Everything I read about Waxy maize is a slower digesting carb though.

Highly branched cyclic dextrin is a much better intra choice for a fast acting powdered carb.
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Slower than maltodextrin etc probably but I dont want a HUGE insulin spike while training. Insulin makes me tired.
Compared to ultra fast sugars its not fast. Lots of conflicting info about waxy maize out there also. I can post articles stating its SUPER fast and ones stating the exact opposite. I think, from experience using this stuff for years, its somewhere in the middle. If I drink 50+ g at once I get a HUGE insulin spike. Like right away. If I sip on it over an hour or so I can do 50-70g and be ok. I get a bit lethargic toward the end of the bottle sometimes.
I think I probably use the term Fast too loosely and have to remember how many people read these threads.

Also keep in mind you guys dont have to do exactly what I do. Can use whatever carb source works for you so long as its keeping your glucose levels stable while training.
 
brundel said:
Slower than maltodextrin etc probably but I dont want a HUGE insulin spike while training. Insulin makes me tired.
Compared to ultra fast sugars its not fast. Lots of conflicting info about waxy maize out there also. I can post articles stating its SUPER fast and ones stating the exact opposite. I think, from experience using this stuff for years, its somewhere in the middle. If I drink 50+ g at once I get a HUGE insulin spike. Like right away. If I sip on it over an hour or so I can do 50-70g and be ok. I get a bit lethargic toward the end of the bottle sometimes.
I think I probably use the term Fast too loosely and have to remember how many people read these threads.

Also keep in mind you guys dont have to do exactly what I do. Can use whatever carb source works for you so long as its keeping your glucose levels stable while training.
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Great advice at the end. I know some people who Gatorade works great for, myself included, and some who it is terrible for. I also know some people who love waxy maize, but it destroyed a good friend of mines stomach when he took it intra-workout, so he obviously didn't continue using it because it worked well for someone else.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
Great advice at the end. I know some people who Gatorade works great for, myself included, and some who it is terrible for. I also know some people who love waxy maize, but it destroyed a good friend of mines stomach when he took it intra-workout, so he obviously didn't continue using it because it worked well for someone else.
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The gastro intestinal tract is one of those parts of the anatomy that is unique to each human.
Intestinal flora and fauna play a huge role of course and as biological systems we are each unique with regards to enzymes etc.
So....1 size does not fit all in this case.
Im just glad that for most a slight carb bump will alleviate any issues.
 
Quick question: is it ok to take 1 cap FD2 with postwo or dinner?

Reason I ask is: I notice I tolerate 1 cap at a time and with meals, but I have only two big meals prior to working out.

My postwo is carb+proteins and dinner usually just fats and proteins, no carbs.

Which makes more sense to you?
 
mrhankey87 said:
Quick question: is it ok to take 1 cap FD2 with postwo or dinner?

Reason I ask is: I notice I tolerate 1 cap at a time and with meals, but I have only two big meals prior to working out.

My postwo is carb+proteins and dinner usually just fats and proteins, no carbs.

Which makes more sense to you?
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if you don't tolerate 2 caps at a time, I don't see anything wrong with splitting into 3 even doses.

Im sure brundel can weigh in as well..
 
mrhankey87 said:
Quick question: is it ok to take 1 cap FD2 with postwo or dinner?

Reason I ask is: I notice I tolerate 1 cap at a time and with meals, but I have only two big meals prior to working out.

My postwo is carb+proteins and dinner usually just fats and proteins, no carbs.

Which makes more sense to you?
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I have done a similar set up for a month and it worked for me ( although I prefer 2 caps pre work out)
 
mrhankey87 said:
Quick question: is it ok to take 1 cap FD2 with postwo or dinner?

Reason I ask is: I notice I tolerate 1 cap at a time and with meals, but I have only two big meals prior to working out.

My postwo is carb+proteins and dinner usually just fats and proteins, no carbs.

Which makes more sense to you?
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agree with vujade no problem taking it one cap split into 3 doses. that is the recommended way to take it on off days anyway.
 
Thanks guys, but my question was: would it make more sense to put the 3rd cap with my postwo or with my dinner? I know it should be taken preferrably with carbs, but the postwo carbs are specifically made to restore glycogen, wouldn't FD2 kinda inhibit that?
 
mrhankey87 said:
Thanks guys, but my question was: would it make more sense to put the 3rd cap with my postwo or with my dinner? I know it should be taken preferrably with carbs, but the postwo carbs are specifically made to restore glycogen, wouldn't FD2 kinda inhibit that?
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you eat breakfast , lunch and Dinner?
 
mrhankey87 said:
Thanks guys, but my question was: would it make more sense to put the 3rd cap with my postwo or with my dinner? I know it should be taken preferrably with carbs, but the postwo carbs are specifically made to restore glycogen, wouldn't FD2 kinda inhibit that?
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Evenly spaced is best - its more of an all day GDA than a fast acting one.
 
Finally its time to get on this wagon! Anyone know if a sales on the way?
 
Great Blog write up on PPlow for those who like to dig a little deeper.
 
vujade said:
if you don't tolerate 2 caps at a time, I don't see anything wrong with splitting into 3 even doses.

Im sure brundel can weigh in as well..
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I'm only just reading into this product but exactly why would someone not be able to tolerate the product? Is it more of a stimulant effect or there's something else that they can't handle?
 
DieselNY said:
I'm only just reading into this product but exactly why would someone not be able to tolerate the product? Is it more of a stimulant effect or there's something else that they can't handle?
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GDA properties of Ecklonia Cava I believe.
 
schizm said:
Nutriverse still has a 20% sale going on it. Am5 adds another 5% off. Winning.
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Thanks bud!

I had some points for a reward but couldnt stack it with the AM5 :( Oh well its almost showtime! Guys this is going to be the best log Ive ever done.
 
Guys I need some help. I started taking follidrone 2.0 and I just feel completely "off". No energy, shaky and nauseous and weak during workouts. I need for someone to tell me what to do. right now here is my routine:

Wake up at 9:30 a.m. and take one follidrone pill with a light breakfast (40 g carbs some fat and protein)

Hit the gym 1.5 hrs later and take 2 more follidrone on empty stomach with conqu3r unleashed and tr1umph...

what should I be doing different


I should note that it did not do this the first few days. Just started on week two
 
Hockeyaus33 said:
Guys I need some help. I started taking follidrone 2.0 and I just feel completely "off". No energy, shaky and nauseous and weak during workouts. I need for someone to tell me what to do. right now here is my routine:

Wake up at 9:30 a.m. and take one follidrone pill with a light breakfast (40 g carbs some fat and protein)

Hit the gym 1.5 hrs later and take 2 more follidrone on empty stomach with conqu3r unleashed and tr1umph...

what should I be doing different


I should note that it did not do this the first few days. Just started on week two
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I've been there. You're going hypo. Take just one follidrone with Tr1umph 45min prewo, and take more carbs with your breakfast. Take 1 pill with breakfast, and the third pill quite a bit later during the day so it's spread out more evenly.
 
mrhankey87 said:
I've been there. You're going hypo. Take just one follidrone with Tr1umph 45min prewo, and take more carbs with your breakfast. Take 1 pill with breakfast, and the third pill quite a bit later during the day so it's spread out more evenly.
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Thanks

I literally went into the gym and did lile 2 sets and left.. for the past 3 workouts. It's ubearable. It's either follidrone or nootrol
 
Hockeyaus33 said:
Guys I need some help. I started taking follidrone 2.0 and I just feel completely "off". No energy, shaky and nauseous and weak during workouts. I need for someone to tell me what to do. right now here is my routine:

Wake up at 9:30 a.m. and take one follidrone pill with a light breakfast (40 g carbs some fat and protein)

Hit the gym 1.5 hrs later and take 2 more follidrone on empty stomach with conqu3r unleashed and tr1umph...

what should I be doing different


I should note that it did not do this the first few days. Just started on week two
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So essentially 3 FD2's within 1.5 hrs? Definitely way too much in that short of a time period and are consequently going hypo for sure. I never exceeded 1 dose PWO.

It is quite powerful; and while you are experiencing negative side effects..you are also wasting the product in the process...

Hope you feel better by modifying your dosing regiment!
 
Forgot to add that when I first started taking FD2..the tired feeling was most profound. As time went by, this feeling decreased significantly for me to the point where I felt tired and had no energy in the gym when I did not take it!
 
Hockeyaus33 said:
Guys I need some help. I started taking follidrone 2.0 and I just feel completely "off". No energy, shaky and nauseous and weak during workouts. I need for someone to tell me what to do. right now here is my routine:

Wake up at 9:30 a.m. and take one follidrone pill with a light breakfast (40 g carbs some fat and protein)

Hit the gym 1.5 hrs later and take 2 more follidrone on empty stomach with conqu3r unleashed and tr1umph...

what should I be doing different


I should note that it did not do this the first few days. Just started on week two
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If anything just dose the one PWO see how you feel spacing the others throughout the day. Hopefully you can dose 2 PWO later down the road and another one much later. Layout a usual days plan and im sure we all can give you more ideas.
 
The plan tomorrow is to take one follidrone with break fast and then one PWO one hour later.

So essentially reducing follidrone by one cap PWO and taking it later that night with a large meal
 
Hockeyaus33 said:
The plan tomorrow is to take one follidrone with break fast and then one PWO one hour later.

So essentially reducing follidrone by one cap PWO and taking it later that night with a large meal
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Splitting it like that is very unconventional. Usually people who train in the am and want to dose pwo takes 2 pwo and then 1 in the pm. Taking 3 like you did in such a short space probably made you go hypo like crazy. Id try 2 pwo and 1 pm. Or just dose 1 with breakfast, 1 mid day and 1 pm.
 
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