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Di.Anabol & Justhere4comm's THERMOGENESIS log sponsored (Bringing the Heat)

thebigt said:
damn...isn't anyone gonna go for 2 caps!!!!!:dunno:
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thebigt, I in fact did dose both caps this morning, maybe I didnt correctly put that on my log. But, even at 2 I felt great, no jitters, full of energy and no negative sides noticed. I just think Ill maintain 1 cap twice daily in order to continue my PWO. Im really enjoying this so far
 
FireTitan said:
thebigt, I in fact did dose both caps this morning, maybe I didnt correctly put that on my log. But, even at 2 I felt great, no jitters, full of energy and no negative sides noticed. I just think Ill maintain 1 cap twice daily in order to continue my PWO. Im really enjoying this so far[/QUOTE

i am liking the sound of that!!!
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Dosed 2 caps early morning and felt the thermals all day until about 4:45p. Sweating ensued but it didn't show through my cover at work.

So far I like this.
Some hypo for some reason. May not be eating enough fat. Keto. Upping fats.
 
justhere4comm said:
Dosed 2 caps early morning and felt the thermals all day until about 4:45p. Sweating ensued but it didn't show through my cover at work.

So far I like this.
Some hypo for some reason. May not be eating enough fat. Keto. Upping fats.
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try some orange juice.
 
justhere4comm said:
Will do!
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'hypo' usually relates to blood sugar...I have low sugar and if I start getting that feeling I grab some oj if it is available, or else find something with sugar in it....I like oj best though!!!
 
Brandinooooo said:
Regular soda will work also
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I'm not getting notifications. Thanks! I wish I could drink soda (not really) but I cannot stand the stuff. Maybe some honey would do the trick as well. Carry a packet or two with me.

Dosed two caps this morning post workout.

Observation(s):

  • I'm noticing a definite decrease in appetite, as I'm normally just hungry all of the time.
  • My wedding ring is loser than normal but I have to take in more water than usual which could have something to do with the keto diet as well.
  • Will be looking into Leucine additionally and sipping on BCAAs more throughout the day.
 
justhere4comm said:
I'm not getting notifications. Thanks! I wish I could drink soda (not really) but I cannot stand the stuff. Maybe some honey would do the trick as well. Carry a packet or two with me.

Dosed two caps this morning post workout.

Observation(s):

  • I'm noticing a definite decrease in appetite, as I'm normally just hungry all of the time.
  • My wedding ring is loser than normal but I have to take in more water than usual which could have something to do with the keto diet as well.
  • Will be looking into Leucine additionally and sipping on BCAAs more throughout the day.
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Thats funny. My Titanium ring hasnt fit in a while, so Ive been wearing a rubber ring, for safety more or less, and its coming off anytime my hands get wet. Also, I forgot who, but someone was recommending Leucine to me, and will need to get some. Im enjoying seeing that you and I are having similar effects so far
 
FireTitan said:
Thats funny. My Titanium ring hasnt fit in a while, so Ive been wearing a rubber ring, for safety more or less, and its coming off anytime my hands get wet. Also, I forgot who, but someone was recommending Leucine to me, and will need to get some. Im enjoying seeing that you and I are having similar effects so far
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I read that, and was doing some further reading about keto. This validates the consumption of coconut oil. I think just sipping on BCAAs could be enough to push this idea instead of investing in a stand alone leucine supplement. I do have some Amino IV from PES coming my way, hopefully soon however which has additional Leucine.

"Certain dietary supplements can help give you a little more leeway on a ketogenic diet. The amino acids lysine and leucine support ketosis and allow a diet to include more protein without compromising ketosis. Short-chain fats like coconut oil are also very ketogenic because they signal the liver to make more ketones. These supplements are very useful because they make for more flexibility in the diet: achieving ketosis by carbohydrate and protein restriction alone is possible, but a slightly higher level of protein and carb intake, supplemented with these ketogenic foods, can help reduce side effects and make the diet safer for the long term. Supplementing with Vitamin D (which most of us should be doing anyway) can also help minimize the risk of bone density loss."

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justhere4comm what type of keto diet are you doing? If you drink OJ or soda you will get kicked out of keto. This isn't that big of a deal if you get kicked out of keto before you workout; in fact, it's known as a Targeted Ketogenic Diet (carb up times are only before and after exercise).

I haven't had much success with doing a TKD and think it's too difficult to dial in. I always do a cyclic ketogenic diet (CKD).

If your feeling like sh1t you could always take

1. MTC Oil (keto staple sup)
2. Extra Virg Olive Oil
3. Peanut butter.

You shouldn't feel hypo if your in ketosis. Your body has done a metabolic shift and no longer requires glycogen to use as energy. When you take MTC Oil or olive oil you should get energy within 10 mins.
 
mmorso said:
justhere4comm what type of keto diet are you doing? If you drink OJ or soda you will get kicked out of keto. This isn't that big of a deal if you get kicked out of keto before you workout; in fact, it's known as a Targeted Ketogenic Diet (carb up times are only before and after exercise).

I haven't had much success with doing a TKD and think it's too difficult to dial in. I always do a cyclic ketogenic diet (CKD).

If your feeling like sh1t you could always take

1. MTC Oil (keto staple sup)
2. Extra Virg Olive Oil
3. Peanut butter.

You shouldn't feel hypo if your in ketosis. Your body has done a metabolic shift and no longer requires glycogen to use as energy. When you take MTC Oil or olive oil you should get energy within 10 mins.
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Makes perfect sense! I will look into it! Going to buy a ton of greens today, and my goodness peanut butter is amazing. I found some coconut peanut butter the other day, and will grab that. Taste is incredible.

I don't think I want to try TKD right now, so advice well received and CKD it is.
I'm still really new to this and jumped in before researching thoroughly. I think FireTitan and I are in the same boat! One oar. lol.
 
justhere4comm said:
I read that, and was doing some further reading about keto. This validates the consumption of coconut oil. I think just sipping on BCAAs could be enough to push this idea instead of investing in a stand alone leucine supplement. I do have some Amino IV from PES coming my way, hopefully soon however which has additional Leucine.

"Certain dietary supplements can help give you a little more leeway on a ketogenic diet. The amino acids lysine and leucine support ketosis and allow a diet to include more protein without compromising ketosis. Short-chain fats like coconut oil are also very ketogenic because they signal the liver to make more ketones. These supplements are very useful because they make for more flexibility in the diet: achieving ketosis by carbohydrate and protein restriction alone is possible, but a slightly higher level of protein and carb intake, supplemented with these ketogenic foods, can help reduce side effects and make the diet safer for the long term. Supplementing with Vitamin D (which most of us should be doing anyway) can also help minimize the risk of bone density loss."

Source:
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Well I was told yesterday to lower my overall protein intake as I was somewhere in the vicinity of 244g. Inam going to aim for around 170-180(ish) and start in with more BCAAs. I might have went a little overboard this morning with breakfast, you and mmorso can assist wth that. I had 8oz of plain greek yogurt with 1 scoop of modern protein, and 5 eggs scrambled with 1.5 tbs of coconut oil. And just for a little extra taste, I mixed up 2tbsp of PB2 with water. Ended up with 858 calories, 84 protein, 22 carbs and 49 fat and feel great, but as if I went overkill. Apparently I was hungrier than I thought when I got home from work. But, Im fixing to go hunting, so probably wont eat anything other than a shake around 2pm. What do you think?
 
justhere4comm said:
Makes perfect sense! I will look into it! Going to buy a ton of greens today, and my goodness peanut butter is amazing. I found some coconut peanut butter the other day, and will grab that. Taste is incredible.

I don't think I want to try TKD right now, so advice well received and CKD it is.
I'm still really new to this and jumped in before researching thoroughly. I think FireTitan and I are in the same boat! One oar. lol.
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Here here!!
 
Yeah FireTitan a common practice on a keto diet is intermittent fasting if you get kicked out of keto and want to get back in... I also will do it if I overate or went over on macros... I'd skip a meal just to let my body metabolize it all but still make sure I achieve my daily macro goals somehow... might have to have small snacks before & after dinner
 
mmorso said:
Yeah FireTitan a common practice on a keto diet is intermittent fasting if you get kicked out of keto and want to get back in... I also will do it if I overate or went over on macros... I'd skip a meal just to let my body metabolize it all but still make sure I achieve my daily macro goals somehow... might have to have small snacks before & after dinner
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So simply put, stupid breakfast? Lol
 
By the way: you guys will fcking love the carb up days on a CKD. After you eat carbs you will be more vascular than you've ever been before it's crazy!!! It's like when you water a plant that's been neglected and you can see it start to perk up
 
mmorso said:
By the way: you guys will fcking love the carb up days on a CKD. After you eat carbs you will be more vascular than you've ever been before it's crazy!!! It's like when you water a plant that's been neglected and you can see it start to perk up
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And how often do these carb ups happen and how long should I wait before having one?
 
FireTitan said:
So simply put, stupid breakfast? Lol
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No not at all. You're going to be all over the place with meals etc when your getting adapted... at least I was. I'd wake up at 2am completely famished and crush some food and go back to bed and have to skip breakfast... For the first couple weeks you'll have carb cravings and feel hungry at times...

The important thing to remember though is total kcals doesn't matter as much as your daily carb intake... so if your hungry you can eat just make sure you're eating fats... the great thing is that fats are satiating. Snack on almonds and peanut butter.
 
mmorso said:
No not at all. You're going to be all over the place with meals etc when your getting adapted... at least I was. I'd wake up at 2am completely famished and crush some food and go back to bed and have to skip breakfast... For the first couple weeks you'll have carb cravings and feel hungry at times...

The important thing to remember though is total kcals doesn't matter as much as your daily carb intake... so if your hungry you can eat just make sure you're eating fats... the great thing is that fats are satiating. Snack on almonds and peanut butter.
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Nice. I can kill some peanut butter!!
 
FireTitan said:
And how often do these carb ups happen and how long should I wait before having one?
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You want to be in keto for 2-3 wks before you start introducing carb up days...

The way it works is you pick a night, say Fridays, and maintain the keto diet until 5pm. At 5pm eat whatever you want: pizza, pasta, etc. just make sure your eating a generous amount of carbs (300g+).

Next morning go back on the keto diet.
 
mmorso said:
You want to be in keto for 2-3 wks before you start introducing carb up days...

The way it works is you pick a night, say Fridays, and maintain the keto diet until 5pm. At 5pm eat whatever you want: pizza, pasta, etc. just make sure your eating a generous amount of carbs (300g+).

Next morning go back on the keto diet.
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Easily done! Thanks
 
justhere4comm said:
Note:

My wife has an upper respiratory infection and is on anti-biotics for the next 10 days. [/USER]

I can start as soon as it arrives and stagger with her, or wait until she's good to go and then start up at the same time.
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I am really really sorry to hear about that bro. Hang in there.
 
Re: PB2 it's low fat... lol.
Not alone for the Keto, but! (Look Down)

I did however use the PB2 with a generous amount of Coconut Oil and shaved almonds to make my own spread which is amazeballz to quote FireTitan Put that on a rice cake which has 7g of carbs each, and gold.

Looking leaner in the mid section, and will be posting another selfie in a week.
Dosed 2 caps today.

Really liking this run.

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Wifey News

She collapsed at work yesterday and had to be taken to the ER. I think it was her BP as it relates to being on keto diet. I warned her to keep up the fat intake for energy, and keto has a tendency to lower blood pressure. I didn't expect it to lower her BP so soon as she's on BP meds. They gave her meds, and tons of fluids (IV), and some dilauded for her migraine following BP spike. I had to laugh. She hit me, hard. The nurse laughed.

It's a good thing she works at the Hospital.

Ok, so as it relates to this Husband / Wife Log... I'm not sure it's going to be anything but tandem at best. I'm going to finish mine, when I'm finished, and then if she feels up to it, we ill extend it with her. I'm more than happy to do this if she wants, and think she would love it. I don't think anything in this product would affect her BP, and the energy would be welcome.

Otherwise, moving forward from this point, I'm digging the supplement, and will keep you all looped in on the wifey. She's a tiger, so don't worry.
(I know you guys are worriers). :D
 
Please keep us up to date on the wife! hope she gets her BP under control, passing out is not a good thing, sounds like its not here first rodeo with this and hopefully knows when to get into a position to not injure her self when she feels it coming on.

my step mom deals with this, problem with her she will sit or lay down when she feels it coming on and you cant tell if she is passed out or taking a nape.
 
Studhorse said:
Please keep us up to date on the wife! hope she gets her BP under control, passing out is not a good thing, sounds like its not here first rodeo with this and hopefully knows when to get into a position to not injure her self when she feels it coming on.

my step mom deals with this, problem with her she will sit or lay down when she feels it coming on and you cant tell if she is passed out or taking a nape.
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I made her some pasta and am getting her back on her game. It will take a week or two but there should be no more of this passing out. It's not permitted lol.

On the brighter side. We had a talk about strategy moving forward with a modified routine that will be like a micro HST. Circuit.

Her diet has got to be dialed in so she feels good first. On the job. :)

Also. In other news.

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Might start her with the basic HST.
Just one body part per workout. maybe reduce or remove the compounds to start with. (I dont know her experience with lifting so I might be wrong)
Also use the standard format with a different rep range.
This is the format my wife uses. (She does do squats for legs, but currently uses the hammer bench for chest and she refuses to do Deads, she said her trapz were getting too big. lol
also she thought she was getting too bulky with the 5 reps sets.

plus she refuses to not do cardio at the end of her workout. if she doesnt get 30 min. in then she thinks she is going to get fat.

Note: she just started lifting with me about a year ago.

She doesn't work and use to do the video work outs like ty-bo, I think that's what it was called. where you kick and stuff.

Wifes HST
Week 1-2
1x15

Week 3-4
2x12

week 5-6
2x8

Originally had to her do 3 sets but she went into over training at the end of week 5. and didn't like de-conditioning at a different time than me.
Told her that wasn't a good idea to start out this way on week 5 but she thought I was treating her like a baby! lol

week7
What she calls drop sets lol. she wont do negatives she says they hurt too much.
 
Dosed 2 caps today pre work. No workout Friday. Woke with pain in my low back. I must have slept wrong. (It's not that hard. How could I fcuck that up!?) lol.

I'm going to hit the gym hard on Monday. I cannot recall taking 3 off in a row.

Keto is getting better and I'm surprised my first fat burner is treating me well. I'm usually sensitive to stims and This doesn't hit me.

Wifey was ok today mostly but is having stomach pains. I think she's got to eat better so I got pop tarts. :D jk. Definitely follow up with doc if she's not feeling better by Monday.
 
justhere4comm said:
Dosed 2 caps today pre work. No workout Friday. Woke with pain in my low back. I must have slept wrong. (It's not that hard. How could I fcuck that up!?) lol.

I'm going to hit the gym hard on Monday. I cannot recall taking 3 off in a row.

Keto is getting better and I'm surprised my first fat burner is treating me well. I'm usually sensitive to stims and This doesn't hit me.

Wifey was ok today mostly but is having stomach pains. I think she's got to eat better so I got pop tarts. :D jk. Definitely follow up with doc if she's not feeling better by Monday.
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Definitely follow up if she's not feeling better soon. A lot of sickness going around right now.

On another note, Vitalize is now a sponsored company on this board so we have our own company page now.
 
Brandinooooo said:
Definitely follow up if she's not feeling better soon. A lot of sickness going around right now.

On another note, Vitalize is now a sponsored company on this board so we have our own company page now.
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That's terrifying. I mean terrific!!! Damn autocorrect. :D

Congrats!!!!!
 
How are you feeling man? How is your wife doing?
 
<-- Reaches over and pinches wife. She feels squishy. :D

She's good but still needs to follow up with doc and make sure it was isolated.
Otherwise good! Looking forward to weeks 3/4 of HST and losing the fat.
 
justhere4comm...POP TARTS? POP TARTS? What gives? I dont feel so well either, and I like the chocolate fudge, shipping address is ....... lol. You just keep hustling those workouts my man. I do believe I am absolutely in love with the Thermogenesis. But I think Im a few days ahead of you as well. 2 of my coworkers at the fire department are actually ordering.
 
FireTitan said:
justhere4comm...POP TARTS? POP TARTS? What gives? I dont feel so well either, and I like the chocolate fudge, shipping address is ....... lol. You just keep hustling those workouts my man. I do believe I am absolutely in love with the Thermogenesis. But I think Im a few days ahead of you as well. 2 of my coworkers at the fire department are actually ordering.
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Mmmmmmm fudge. That would be evil to do. Send me your addy. Lol.

Yeah right! You looking lean!!!
 
I will eat pop tarts post-workout when I am in a time crunch
 
FireTitan said:
justhere4comm...POP TARTS? POP TARTS? What gives? I dont feel so well either, and I like the chocolate fudge, shipping address is ....... lol. You just keep hustling those workouts my man. I do believe I am absolutely in love with the Thermogenesis. But I think Im a few days ahead of you as well. 2 of my coworkers at the fire department are actually ordering.
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Hey fat ass... You don't need any fudge or pop tarts!
 
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