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Libido killed !!!

bb333

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Yesterday I finished Alphamax xt + Follidrone 2.0.
I did two months.
For 50 workouts I finished ARA.

Already for about 1 month I find myself with the libido to the ground, I have difficulty maintaining an erection.
This feeling is frustrating.
It is the only negative of this stack.

I can not know if I have low estrogen, unfortunately I did not do blood tests.

Beginning one month from today stop by all the "testbooster".
Let's see if little by little I see improvements on my libido ... because they are worried.

I wanted to know if I could still get my third bottle of folli2?
 
The only supplement that has given me libido through the roof, it was this summer, with formestane.
I took it only.
This was the only positive experience where I could see a big difference.
 
I wouldn't think the follidrone would do that. There's nothing in there that would mess with hormones.
 
Perhaps it's the increased inflammation from the ArA? I've heard of people getting headaches and feeling sluggish towards the end of an ArA run. Sluggishness and erections don't mix.
 
bb333 said:
No no!
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Then the usual suspects are usually too low T (Total/Free), too low DHT (which is because of low T - can't 5 alpha reduce into DHT), way too low *or* high Estrogen, too high Prolactin, or finally - out of whack (scientific term) Dopamine/Serotonin. Only blood work can tell you for sure.
 
The_Old_Guy said:
Then the usual suspects are usually too low T (Total/Free), too low DHT (which is because of low T - can't 5 alpha reduce into DHT), way too low *or* high Estrogen, too high Prolactin, or finally - out of whack (scientific term) Dopamine/Serotonin. Only blood work can tell you for sure.
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Prolactin is one that's often overlooked. Can you B6 P5P. Although, L-Dopa is in Alphamax so unsure.

How's your sleep? Your diet? Are you deep in a cut and low fats?
 
Absolutely not FD2, ran it twice and can say for sure it benefits libido so look into prolactin issues or run bloods to see where all your numbers are at
 
Woody said:
Prolactin is one that's often overlooked. Can you B6 P5P. Although, L-Dopa is in Alphamax so unsure.

How's your sleep? Your diet? Are you deep in a cut and low fats?
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Sleep is ok, all right.
The diet is ok! Total fat 60g a day.
They are high-calorie!

It's a bad feeling ...
arriving with difficulty in an erection, erection half, not 100% ...
I try to feel the libido, but nothing ... no excitement.
 
horizons said:
It's the alphamax XT

Absolutely destroyed my libido
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Surprised to hear that because of all the rave reviews and most of the ingredients should promote male vitality/erection quality. The exception here would be the nettle which can impact DHT too much. I wish more companies would stop pumping out products that have ingredients and claims that this or that particular product lowers DHT as if it is a positive thing. DHT's impact on enlarged prostate has been debunked. Enlarged prostate in aging men is due to the natural increase in estrogen and decrease in testosterone. Stop messing with our DHT....we need it!
 
Ricky10 said:
Surprised to hear that because of all the rave reviews and most of the ingredients should promote male vitality/erection quality. The exception here would be the nettle which can impact DHT too much. I wish more companies would stop pumping out products that have ingredients and claims that this or that particular product lowers DHT as if it is a positive thing. DHT's impact on enlarged prostate has been debunked. Enlarged prostate in aging men is due to the natural increase in estrogen and decrease in testosterone. Stop messing with our DHT....we need it!
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the reason for including nettle[divanil] is it's impact on free test.
 
OP, I would advise you to take a break from supplements (minus the staples) for a couple of weeks (if you haven't already). If the problem persists, it would be in your favor to get bloodwork
 
Ricky10 said:
Surprised to hear that because of all the rave reviews and most of the ingredients should promote male vitality/erection quality. The exception here would be the nettle which can impact DHT too much. I wish more companies would stop pumping out products that have ingredients and claims that this or that particular product lowers DHT as if it is a positive thing. DHT's impact on enlarged prostate has been debunked. Enlarged prostate in aging men is due to the natural increase in estrogen and decrease in testosterone. Stop messing with our DHT....we need it!
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Probably not true as I have had nettle with no impact on libido. Alphamax xt did not agree with me what so ever, as soon as I dropped it, I felt much better
 
Today will be the second day without Alphamax xt and folli2.
Let's see what happens this week.
 
How old are you bro? I started getting weak erections at around 24/25. Willy just wouldn't work like the 'see a girl's thong in the hall of high school' days. I still sometimes have hit or miss erections but sex is still very enjoyable and I still think about it quite often, even though I'm not always pitching the most reliable tents. Been running alphamax xt for about 6 weeks now with 0 libido issues. If anything I'm on porn hub more often and spending more $ on wine for the gf
 
drejb said:
How old are you bro? I started getting weak erections at around 24/25. Willy just wouldn't work like the 'see a girl's thong in the hall of high school' days. I still sometimes have hit or miss erections but sex is still very enjoyable and I still think about it quite often, even though I'm not always pitching the most reliable tents. Been running alphamax xt for about 6 weeks now with 0 libido issues. If anything I'm on porn hub more often and spending more $ on wine for the gf
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Does she have to be drunk to sleep with you? lol
 
I would definitely take a break from all hormonal supplements for 4-6 weeks. Your body is adjusting back to its normal levels, so don't freak out about it. The ingredients in Alphamax XT are natural, so you may experience a week of fluctuation while your body returns to homeostasis. You could get blood work done too, but I would wait 1-2 weeks and see how you feel first
 
drejb said:
How old are you bro? I started getting weak erections at around 24/25. Willy just wouldn't work like the 'see a girl's thong in the hall of high school' days. I still sometimes have hit or miss erections but sex is still very enjoyable and I still think about it quite often, even though I'm not always pitching the most reliable tents. Been running alphamax xt for about 6 weeks now with 0 libido issues. If anything I'm on porn hub more often and spending more $ on wine for the gf
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32 years!
Libido is down by more than one month ...
never happened before so :(

Sexual desire, erection, it is hard to get ...
 
thebigt said:
the reason for including nettle[divanil] is it's impact on free test.
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Yes..unfortunately that theory has been proven wrong in the latest studies. So you are left with it just lowering your DHT which is not cool. LJ and Boron are the latest supplements that are theorized to have the ability to lower SHBG -> raise free test.
 
Your libido most likely got better than it ever was and now that you have stopped taking the Libido enhancing supplements your brain has to 'get back to normal'. None of these supplements cause any hormonal change which PCT would be needed. Its all in your mind...
 
OP, anything unusual or stressful going on in your personal life? I've had times where no matter what I took, no matter what I did, my libido was crushed to dust due to stress in my personal life.
 
bigsmall said:
Your libido most likely got better than it ever was and now that you have stopped taking the Libido enhancing supplements your brain has to 'get back to normal'. None of these supplements cause any hormonal change which PCT would be needed. Its all in your mind...
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I do not think ... unfortunately!
 
EMG81 said:
OP, anything unusual or stressful going on in your personal life? I've had times where no matter what I took, no matter what I did, my libido was crushed to dust due to stress in my personal life.
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I do not hide that a slight period of **** I'm going through ...
 
Lol just fork out the dosh and get some bloods. Id wager it has nothing to do with the supps but is diet related....just do bloods.
 
2nd for bloods. Always the first thing to check.
 
Ricky10 said:
Surprised to hear that because of all the rave reviews and most of the ingredients should promote male vitality/erection quality. The exception here would be the nettle which can impact DHT too much. I wish more companies would stop pumping out products that have ingredients and claims that this or that particular product lowers DHT as if it is a positive thing. DHT's impact on enlarged prostate has been debunked. Enlarged prostate in aging men is due to the natural increase in estrogen and decrease in testosterone. Stop messing with our DHT....we need it!
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I think the nettle has lowered my DHT values ...

3rd day without Alphamax xt (and folli2, who is not the suspect of the cause)
 
If it's really that bad see a doctor. Even lowering DHT through natural supplements shouldn't kill your libido. People take prescription meds for that and only a small minority have that side effect. I'd see a doc.
 
I havnt looked at the ingredient panel for the other product we are talking about but I can tell you that lowering DHT is NOT a good thing.
DHT is much heavier than testosterone and its DHT that plays a larger role in sexual function. Testosterone is great for libido yes but only because it becomes DHT!!!

The other thing is just because something is natural doesnt mean its not hormonal. Lots of things are phytoestrogenic for example and lots of things effect endogenous hormones.
My suggestion is drop the hormonal products for at least a month.
Follidrone doesnt effect your hormones this way so you can continue it. If anything it will help with erection. Might be the only reason your getting 50% and not 0%.

It may take a while for things to come back online. Just be patient and try not to freak out too much.
IF...after a month or 2 things dont get back to normal youll need to run a battery of blood tests. You can PM me and I can tell you what to test for.

Steer clear of anything that LOWERS your male hormones.........
 
Well said! Yet again, it is so frustrating to see otherwise great profiles for test boosters that contain ingredients that lower DHT. How can they not know this? Even worse; most on cycle support supplements are littered with ingredients that lower DHT and also have ingredients that can mimic estrogen. Blows my mind...
 
A majority of people that take Alphamax XT notice a huge jump in libido, heck even people taking Uritica Doica itself get a libido increase, your issue IMO does not have anything to do with DHT levels. Actually Uritica Doica increases circulating or free DHT levels: Planta Med. 1997 Dec;63(6):529-32.
Lignans from the roots of Urtica dioica and their metabolites bind to human sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG).

Furthermore there is little to no 5AR present in muscle tissue, however in tissues like prostate or scalp there is a higher concentration of 5AR where it may be more beneficial to have that 5ARi effect. So were left with a general increase in circulating DHT and potential control of creation of DHT in certain tissues. Again I dont believe low DHT is your problem.

It could be many factors from stress, sleep, getting in enough good fats etc. One aspect could be to low of estrogen, obviously Alphamax XT contains an AI but other ingredients in Alphamax XT also have Aromotase Inhibiting effects, UD being one of them. So if anything at all it could be low estrogen. However as previously mentioned, a majority of users notice a huge increase in libido so I highly doubt its an effect of Alphamax XT, but could be possible depending on your physiology before starting Alphamax XT. Take 4 weeks off and see where it stands at that point, if an issue persists I would look into blood work to get to the bottom of it!
 
It improved erections while libido no!

I am increasingly convinced that Alphamax XT on me (personal opinion) did not work properly.

I ordered Viron.
 
I've had very low libido since my early 20's, I had blood work and the Endo thought I was on steroids.

Total Test, Androgen Index, Dhea were through the roof. I'm 10% BF, and 92kgs so I don't seem to suffer from any issues in the gym.

Bit odd, I've just lived with it I spose.

That African herb that was in TFORCE and in MTEST def helped with libido from what I remember.
 
AdelV said:
I've had very low libido since my early 20's, I had blood work and the Endo thought I was on steroids.

Total Test, Androgen Index, Dhea were through the roof. I'm 10% BF, and 92kgs so I don't seem to suffer from any issues in the gym.

Bit odd, I've just lived with it I spose.

That African herb that was in TFORCE and in MTEST def helped with libido from what I remember.
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Get some m test now!
 
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