Hairygrandpas log, fat- and older people welcome!- diet, training, cycles, healing

hairygrandpa said:
LOL, 3 scales would indeed drive me crazy! My conscious is clean, even though I broke my self imposed diet rules, I never did it full retard.
It's the MK. It bloated me badly the first time I took it too.
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First time i did mk it bloated me so much i chickened out.. Ive since learned to add extra taurine, halfa asprin, some asparagus, and watch the sodium....but I'm sure you know all this.....
 
Studhorse said:
Hows that shoulder doing?
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Hovering at 90-93%
Will evaluate today again, trying to do my first real push ups (without a box). If it goes smoothly, I'll have a party afterwards, with psyllium husks, H2O and half of an apple.
Did Saturday lateral rises with 6lbs DB's (LOL) , it worked! Now slowly, very slowly upping weight.
 
Kaprice said:
I'm not sure whether to admire you or consider you crazy. Or both. Single digit BF is crazy difficult.

I'll be ecstatic when I get to around 15 to 18% BF with no desire to go lower.

Life's too short to be miserable every day just because you want to look shredded!

:saroll:
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You don't even have to be close to miserable to maintain 8-12%, you just have to be disciplined and pay attention. It does not take extremes to get there or maintain it. It just takes the effort to pay attention and make good choices. Most people can get to a point once they learn their body they can coast and maintain abs. It is all about the discipline.

hairygrandpa said:
Here what I did at the weekend:

Feeding my protein source:

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Cool, so do yo have a big farm or lots of land or something? I never knew of anyone with their own fish farm. A fish pond yes but a man made, concrete encased farm. Nope...
hairygrandpa said:
I hate my scale -and I don't trust her. A few days ago the scale said: 98.8kg(217.8 lbs).... today....hold the horses: 103.5kg(228lbs). :blink:
Not one day I ate above 2000kcal. How is this even possible? Either there is a small child-sized dump stuck in my bowels -or water fluctuations.
Maybe I'm a sleep walker and eat in my sleep.... Gonna chain me to my bed from now on.
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More likely not quite level or something. Do you measure in the exact same place every time? Scale being a few feet away can mess up a reading massively if not level.
hairygrandpa said:
Taking your sarcasm while looking at your avatar pic does not make me feel better right now, LOL.
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Don't feel bad brother. After I read his comment about just wanting to get to 15-18% and he would be happy I was very confused. Then I looked at his signature and it says that is not him in his avi, but how he wants to look when he reaches his goal.
 
MrKleen73 said:
You don't even have to be close to miserable to maintain 8-12%, you just have to be disciplined and pay attention. It does not take extremes to get there or maintain it. It just takes the effort to pay attention and make good choices. Most people can get to a point once they learn their body they can coast and maintain abs. It is all about the discipline.


Cool, so do yo have a big farm or lots of land or something? I never knew of anyone with their own fish farm. A fish pond yes but a man made, concrete encased farm. Nope...

More likely not quite level or something. Do you measure in the exact same place every time? Scale being a few feet away can mess up a reading massively if not level.

Don't feel bad brother. After I read his comment about just wanting to get to 15-18% and he would be happy I was very confused. Then I looked at his signature and it says that is not him in his avi, but how he wants to look when he reaches his goal.
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The farm is my "man-toy" for weekends, like others have a boat.
Having "cravings for creativity", leads to projects like this, lol.
It's not huge with 8 acres, just enough to have it all developed and maintained. The "Lake" is part of a self made agua-ponic system.
Fish waste is stored almost automatically in a subterranean tank, later pumped up to fertilize the whole farm. The pond holds currently about 5000 pounds of Tilapia.
The plantations are mainly exotic fruit plants I imported from all over the world, some grow with success -others do like my diet does, LOL.

About the diet, I'm fine, I accepted all the lifting stuff to be a long term project- like the farm is, including backlashes like injury -or a cut that turned into a recomp.

I enjoy following you on your road to success, so far you are doing exceptional! Thanks for your head-ups!
 
hairygrandpa said:
The farm is my "man-toy" for weekends, like others have a boat.
Having "cravings for creativity", leads to projects like this, lol.
It's not huge with 8 acres, just enough to have it all developed and maintained. The "Lake" is part of a self made agua-ponic system.
Fish waste is stored almost automatically in a subterranean tank, later pumped up to fertilize the whole farm. The pond holds currently about 5000 pounds of Tilapia.
The plantations are mainly exotic fruit plants I imported from all over the world, some grow with success -others do like my diet does, LOL.

About the diet, I'm fine, I accepted all the lifting stuff to be a long term project- like the farm is, including backlashes like injury -or a cut that turned into a recomp.

I enjoy following you on your road to success, so far you are doing exceptional! Thanks for your head-ups!
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I love that you are using the fish waste as fertilizer, lots of excellent nitrogen in there and keeps the the toxin levels in the "pond" down.

Thanks Brother, I am trying to crush this prep! Using beasts like you and others around here to keep me amped up about everything.
 
No gym today.

800 kcal so far. Guys, start posting hilarious stuff to keep me away from the fridge!
 
Lol, duct tape that fridge shut.

Maybe you need to eat more veggies and spread the food out a little? I know you were eating 1 meal for a while. Have a half bag of broccoli and 3 oz of chicken or fish in the earlier part of the day, and then again in the afternoon , then a little more for dinner. It isn't like you are going to get 5 meals out of so little food, but just having a plan to eat consistently may help offset some of the opportunity to choose snacks.
 
HIT4ME said:
Lol, duct tape that fridge shut.

Maybe you need to eat more veggies and spread the food out a little? I know you were eating 1 meal for a while. Have a half bag of broccoli and 3 oz of chicken or fish in the earlier part of the day, and then again in the afternoon , then a little more for dinner. It isn't like you are going to get 5 meals out of so little food, but just having a plan to eat consistently may help offset some of the opportunity to choose snacks.
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I said: post hilarious stuff.... Stop the food talk damnit!

LOL
 
So you don't want the solution to stop in and show you photos of his latest baking?
 
Nah, honestly, I'm more focused from now on!
In 6 weeks I'm again in Florida, will be in shape for vacation.
Going to the kitchen for water+psyllium husks...something to fill the void.
 
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Since my stomach makes noises, all cats in the house are hiding from me, LOL.
 
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hairygrandpa said:
Almost. :)

1 boiled egg was lonely and lost, it was in bad shape, had a crack in his shell. I released it from his suffering, LOL!
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That is hardly a cheat!
 
hairygrandpa said:
Almost. :)

1 boiled egg was lonely and lost, it was in bad shape, had a crack in his shell. I released it from his suffering, LOL!
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Always the Good Samaritan!

That egg was sure when it cracked it shell it was about to get whipped and beaten, imagine it's surprise when it was boiled and eaten!
 
MrKleen73 said:
That egg was sure when it cracked it shell it was about to get whipped and beaten, imagine it's surprise when it was boiled and eaten!
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This is rap material, bro!

One out of a dozen bro's, shivering inda fridge -poor creatures,
Had my shell cracked by some hoes, giving me distinctive features.
Was boiled- not whipped and beaten, I was cooked than stripped and eaten.
 
hairygrandpa said:
This is rap material, bro!

One out of a dozen bro's, shivering inda fridge -poor creatures,
Had my shell cracked by some hoes, giving me distinctive features.
Was boiled- not whipped and beaten, I was cooked than stripped and eaten.
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Lmfao! Perfect! My coworkers all want to know why I just cracked up laughing!
 
New stims and Nos-Ether for pre-workout arrived today.

Went with much enthusiasm to the gym:

weighted Chin ups BW 218lbs /SS/ cable triceps rope push down
+30lbs x10/8
push:
50lbs TUT 3.1.1. 27/ rp 17 rp 14 rp 12 rp 10
80lbs 17/15/11 rp 7 rp 6
100lbs 11/8/ rp 5

DB pull over
100lbs x4 (too heavy)
90lbs x9

Inverted row , holding 2 sec on top
13 rp 8 rp 6

rope face pulls fists up 75lbs
16/14/14 rp 8

Hyperextensions-cuban rotations combo DB 2x10lbs
8/7/7

cable One armed triceps extensions
25lbs x12/12/8/7 rp 5


cable One armed triceps push downs
50lbs 9/7 rp 5
40lbs 17/14 rp 9

seated DB concentration curls
45lbs 9/7/ rp 5

15 min shoulder rehab
10 min bicycle forced with sprints HR 145-155
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Trying my shoulders:

25 regular push ups <----THIS ! YES! First time since injury!!!! A chest exercise that works for me!
Standing DB press 2x15lbs: 20/20 <---YES!!!!!
Lateral rises DB 2x10lbs - failure. Too painful/ 2x6 lbs painful but working
 
hairygrandpa said:
New stims and Nos-Ether for pre-workout arrived today.

Went with much enthusiasm to the gym:

weighted Chin ups BW 218lbs /SS/ cable triceps rope push down
+30lbs x10/8
push:
50lbs TUT 3.1.1. 27/ rp 17 rp 14 rp 12 rp 10
80lbs 17/15/11 rp 7 rp 6
100lbs 11/8/ rp 5

DB pull over
100lbs x4 (too heavy)
90lbs x9

Inverted row , holding 2 sec on top
13 rp 8 rp 6

rope face pulls fists up 75lbs
16/14/14 rp 8

Hyperextensions-cuban rotations combo DB 2x10lbs
8/7/7

cable One armed triceps extensions
25lbs x12/12/8/7 rp 5


cable One armed triceps push downs
50lbs 9/7 rp 5
40lbs 17/14 rp 9

seated DB concentration curls
45lbs 9/7/ rp 5

15 min shoulder rehab
10 min bicycle forced with sprints HR 145-155
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Trying my shoulders:

25 regular push ups <----THIS ! YES! First time since injury!!!! A chest exercise that works for me!
Standing DB press 2x15lbs: 20/20 <---YES!!!!!
Lateral rises DB 2x10lbs - failure. Too painful/ 2x6 lbs painful but working
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You have to be stoked with the shoulder!?
 
Studhorse said:
You have to be stoked with the shoulder!&#55357;&#56490;
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Great day for me, knowing I can do push ups again! Was worried about my chest, already thinking about how saggy old men tits look like.
Will slowly, very slowly build up from here.
 
Diet:
During day:
1/2 cup oats with pieces of dried fruits 350kcal

After workout (still eating as I write):
2 cup smashed pumpkin: 60kcal
3 tilapia fillet: 350kcal
2 boiled eggs for later:140kcal
Total: 900kcal
 
hairygrandpa said:
Diet:
During day:
1/2 cup oats with pieces of dried fruits 350kcal

After workout (still eating as I write):
2 cup smashed pumpkin: 60kcal
3 tilapia fillet: 350kcal
2 boiled eggs for later:140kcal
Total: 900kcal
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Back at it brother, kicking butt!
 
hairygrandpa said:
Diet:
During day:
1/2 cup oats with pieces of dried fruits 350kcal

After workout (still eating as I write):
2 cup smashed pumpkin: 60kcal
3 tilapia fillet: 350kcal
2 boiled eggs for later:140kcal
Total: 900kcal
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What is smashed pumpkin?
 
Sounds like it could be good, do they keep the seeds in it?
 
lifted67 said:
Sounds like it could be good, do they keep the seeds in it?
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No seeds, I just called her for the recipe, found out there is a bit more to it:

-cut pumpkin flesh out and boil in water until soft then drain
-cut 1 onion in pieces
-put all in a bowl with 3 eggs , a bit salt and mix
-put in casserole (wipe with butter first)
-put 3 slices of cheese on top (for crust)
-oven until cheese gets brown

It is delicious and low cal.
 
Don't ask me about yesterday.... damn.

I blew the diet good and did not feel bad about it while doing so, today I do.

What I can tell, it was about 3200 kcal, all "good" food, lots of meat -nothing "poisonous" like cake -or pasta.
My mind kept telling me:
" It doesn't matter, because when you eat clean, you will grow muscles -eat less and you lose fat, today is grow muscles day! "
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I admit defeat....
Will shoot for a recomp with a more rational approach. Planing on eating with a 500-700kcal deficit, MOST of the time.
I'm not sorry about it, just got a bit wiser.
Can't handle what HIT4ME can, period.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Don't ask me about yesterday.... damn.
Can't handle what HIT4ME can, period.
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Not sure of many who can. It's a ridiculously restrictive program he's on.

And, did you read his post, today? He's miserable. Why would anyone want to feel that way every (or most -- or many) day? I'd rather take longer to reach my goals and enjoy every day than do what he's doing.

BUT, some people are into masochism, so good them! :)
 
hairygrandpa said:
Don't ask me about yesterday.... damn.

I blew the diet good and did not feel bad about it while doing so, today I do.

What I can tell, it was about 3200 kcal, all "good" food, lots of meat -nothing "poisonous" like cake -or pasta.
My mind kept telling me:


I admit defeat....
Will shoot for a recomp with a more rational approach. Planing on eating with a 500-700kcal deficit, MOST of the time.
I'm not sorry about it, just got a bit wiser.
Can't handle what HIT4ME can, period.
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You can quit and give up, if that is your thing. It is up to you, totally your call.
 
Kaprice said:
So, how are you going to get a naked pic of Hillary? :D
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Internet, LOL.
But to someone here I promised a pic in my round bathtub ( it's really a Jacuzzi) , will do.

HIT4ME said:
You can quit and give up, if that is your thing. It is up to you, totally your call.
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Giving up on the extreme diet, not giving up on losing fat. I'm more comfortable recomping.
Feeling already better now, after making that decision. You really motivated me to try -and now that I've failed, I have even more respect for you, bro!
 
Kaprice said:
Not sure of many who can. It's a ridiculously restrictive program he's on.

And, did you read his post, today? He's miserable. Why would anyone want to feel that way every (or most -- or many) day? I'd rather take longer to reach my goals and enjoy every day than do what he's doing.

BUT, some people are into masochism, so good them! :)
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Lol, cuz I'm doing it for science.

Not really defending my approach, but I wouldn't use miserable as a word to describe it, but I definitely hit a wall this week and I am exhausted. The diet plays a role, but I've also really kicked up the exercise quite a bit and I'm not used to it at all.

Two things to keep in mind too - my diet isn't as restrictive for me as it would be for most people here. People hear 800 calories and think it is crazy. It is, but some days it is maybe a 1300 calorie deficit for me. For HGP that same thing may be an 1800-2000 calorie deficit pretty easily.

Add in 2-3 days where I did enough activity to burn just under 4000 calories a day in the past week though, and yeah, it's rough.

And I am going all out because I'm sick of the last 20 pounds. I've been losing weight for 4 years and come down from around 300 to this and I'm so close and I just want to get there now. It's a personal war for me.

Most people wouldn't get it. It's a little nuts. It's not for everyone, but all I can hope for is it teaches someone else as much as it has taught me, I spires someone to push harder , etc. I don't see what I've done as all that hard really, I feel like others on this board work harder.

And it is funny, Ive been doing cardio for about a week and I've taken today off and this afternoon I felt so lazy and almost wanted to at least go do some form of exercise. Had to force myself to take a break. Haha.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Internet, LOL.
But to someone here I promised a pic in my round bathtub ( it's really a Jacuzzi) , will do.


Giving up on the extreme diet, not giving up on losing fat. I'm more comfortable recomping.
Feeling already better now, after making that decision. You really motivated me to try -and now that I've failed, I have even more respect for you, bro!
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Lol, YOU motivated me. I have stumbled plenty. You have to try before you fail, and that is more than most people. I have plenty of respect for you, I couldn't keep this going without you (you are one of the few who doesn't think I'm 100% insane), and all the other people on here (even KAPrice who thinks I am completely off my rocker). I truly love you all, and I really wouldn't do this without you guys.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Internet, LOL.
But to someone here I promised a pic in my round bathtub ( it's really a Jacuzzi) , will do.


Giving up on the extreme diet, not giving up on losing fat. I'm more comfortable recomping.
Feeling already better now, after making that decision. You really motivated me to try -and now that I've failed, I have even more respect for you, bro!
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Why don't you try Kaprices approach? He has kind of adapted the ADF diet to have an ultra low calorie day followed by a more moderate day, etc.
 
HIT4ME said:
Why don't you try Kaprices approach? He has kind of adapted the ADF diet to have an ultra low calorie day followed by a more moderate day, etc.
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Don't you get it? He's purposely throwing the contest so he can fap to naked Hillary? He WANTS to lose!
 
Kaprice said:
Don't you get it? He's purposely throwing the contest so he can fap to naked Hillary? He WANTS to lose!
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Oh, yeah, I am slow sometimes. No carbs for my brain.
 
HIT4ME said:
Why don't you try Kaprices approach? He has kind of adapted the ADF diet to have an ultra low calorie day followed by a more moderate day, etc.
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Doing MY thing. I'm proud of myself how I handle the "bad" food already. It's all about to find a way that works daily, every day. Will temper with carbs, reserving the "fast" ones for post workouts and controlling total caloric intake.
I need no books. Eat less and train double + watching WHAT you eat and WHEN- will do.

I'm still in the game, ultimate goal: looking good naked!
 
hairygrandpa said:
Doing MY thing. I'm proud of myself how I handle the "bad" food already. It's all about to find a way that works daily, every day. Will temper with carbs, reserving the "fast" ones for post workouts and controlling total caloric intake.
I need no books. Eat less and train double + watching WHAT you eat and WHEN- will do.

I'm still in the game, ultimate goal: looking good naked!
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Works for me man, as long as you are in the game and pushing, proud of you.
 
We live and learn man, at least you tried it out and now you're still heading towards your ultimate goal! Keep pushing it!
 
It's called DIEt for a reason the body just doesn't want to change.

I agree that simple lowering cals to like 1800-2000 a day would be much easier on your body and mental health. It sucks not dropping weight as fast for sure but at least you wouldn't feel like Hell everyday!
 
Today, great day at the gym!

Did full body workout, highlights:
DB Pull overs 100lbs x5
Chin ups +40lbs x10/6
cable flies (first time since injury!)
standing DB press with 2x35lbs x20/20/20 (after injury!)
seated row 230lbs x17 rp 10
lots of curls, cable triceps, oblique twists, shoulder rehab

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Shoulder injury is healed to 95% (5% still pain doing presses; lateral rises).
Feeling great!
Still not eaten all day, recomp meal will have about 1800kcal.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Today, great day at the gym!

Did full body workout, highlights:
DB Pull overs 100lbs x5
Chin ups +40lbs x10/6
cable flies (first time since injury!)
standing DB press with 2x35lbs x20/20/20 (after injury!)
seated row 230lbs x17 rp 10
lots of curls, cable triceps, oblique twists, shoulder rehab

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Shoulder injury is healed to 95% (5% still pain doing presses; lateral rises).
Feeling great!
Still not eaten all day, recomp meal will have about 1800kcal.
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Arms looking seriously good! Happy to see you doing delts again.....
 
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