I have found that I'm thirstier while on STR3NGTH as well, so I would recommend increasing water intake.I am sure that the compound itself does not raise BP. It is definatly an issue of Str3ngth having a dehydrating effect on me.
I have found that I'm thirstier while on STR3NGTH as well, so I would recommend increasing water intake.I am sure that the compound itself does not raise BP. It is definatly an issue of Str3ngth having a dehydrating effect on me.
You could swap that out and also include a cap or two of LJ100 (which has solid data on reducing cortisol).Was wondering.
If laxo helps with cortisol would it be beneficial to swap out a run of lets say Lean xtreme or Reduce xt instead.
Or are those products much better at lowering cortisol ?
Thanks
8 weeks is a solid run bro. I'm on my 3rd bottle of SU at the moment. If it treats you well feel free to run it for longer.Just ordered 2 bottles of Derma Strength Unleashed to use during PCT stacked with Triumph.
Is 8 weeks worth enough for a decent run or is it best to push past and go for 12 weeks.
The biggest benefit for me is joint comfort by far. The recomp/nutrient partitioning is working well although I was on a stack when I started it so I can't attribute it all to SU. I'm currently taking it whilst on a ph/ds cut cycle and will continue through PCT. The main thing for me is the joint benefit which seems to happen to a fair number of users. It's one of the few things that seems to help me. 7-10 days would probably be enough to start noticing things for me.Did you use in PCT, and what are the main things you started to notice, does this product take 2 weeks to start having any real effect.
Recomp and re-partitioning effects were the biggest indicators for me (only ran the DSU version so far). I noticed by the end of my first bottle, and continued for a 12 week run. First couple weeks I was a bit skeptical tbh because its not an "in your face" or acute change. But by the end of the first bottle it was wholly apparent that it had a fairly dramatic effect (for a natty sup).Did you use in PCT, and what are the main things you started to notice, does this product take 2 weeks to start having any real effect.
Are those questions or statements? HaIf using dermaStr3ngth in PCT would it be good to start a week before. Are people experiencing the same sides from the derma version as the caps. I loved the results from the orals but the headaches are a little ridiculous.
Sorry! Questions.Are those questions or statements? Ha
No need to start a week before. No headaches on DSU for me but have not taken the caps.If using dermaStr3ngth in PCT would it be good to start a week before. Are people experiencing the same sides from the derma version as the caps. I loved the results from the orals but the headaches are a little ridiculous.
I had headaches for a few days in the first week and then they went away. I was using DSU. My dosing was 100mg split between am/pm.If using dermaStr3ngth in PCT would it be good to start a week before. Are people experiencing the same sides from the derma version as the caps. I loved the results from the orals but the headaches are a little ridiculous.
DSU and EU may just be my fav natty supps of ALL TIMEI experienced headaches and diarrhea from the caps. I Loved the results though so I stuck it out. I'm running the derma version in PCT now and experienceing no sides at all! I've kept all my strength from my Hdrol and Trest run.
I swear on all my gainz that I too thought Laxo was a joke before DSU.I've had laxogen from another company and honestly got nothing from it , but I see too many good reviews on it, do you guys think I could just be a non responder or would be better trying another brand like OL ? (I do think OL is a better company but to get nothing from the first try I'm wondering if it'd be possible to get nothing from any brand)
Not an uncommon experience to get little to no benefit from Laxogenin. However, the absorption enhancer in STR3NGTH UNLEASHED & DERMASTRENGTH UNLEASHED - PhytpFUSE(TM) - makes a world of difference. Go back to the beginning of the thread and check out the official write-up.I've had laxogen from another company and honestly got nothing from it , but I see too many good reviews on it, do you guys think I could just be a non responder or would be better trying another brand like OL ? (I do think OL is a better company but to get nothing from the first try I'm wondering if it'd be possible to get nothing from any brand)
Lol damn I have to trust it if you swear it on the gains hahaI swear on all my gainz that I too thought Laxo was a joke before DSU.
There is a problem with quality, absorption and bioavailability with most Laxo supps...hence the crappy results for most.
Thanks bros, Yes I actually had read it lol I know I can trust OL , quickly became hooked on the company , was more wondering if it's possible to not respond to laxo period I guess I'll have to order some dsu and compare hahaNot an uncommon experience to get little to no benefit from Laxogenin. However, the absorption enhancer in STR3NGTH UNLEASHED & DERMASTRENGTH UNLEASHED - PhytpFUSE(TM) - makes a world of difference. Go back to the beginning of the thread and check out the official write-up.
There is also a lot of great user feedback on STR3NGTH UNLEASHED & DERMASTRENGTH UNLEASHED. I absolutely love DSU!
Always a possibility, but def worth a try!Thanks bros, Yes I actually had read it lol I know I can trust OL , quickly became hooked on the company , was more wondering if it's possible to not respond to laxo period I guess I'll have to order some dsu and compare haha
I started mine in PCTas well so it is a bit to tough to pinpoint the exact time since you are in a transition period and other variables are in play. As you have experienced, I maintained all my strength gains and in fact got stronger. That alone sold me.With DSU, what when do you notice changes in recomping, and overall strength, i have been using it for 2 weeks now, this is day 14, i have maintained all of my strength from my 8 week run with halodrol and tr3n, , next week is my 3rd week of pct.
I plan on using it for 12-16 weeks,I started mine in PCTas well so it is a bit to tough to pinpoint the exact time since you are in a transition period and other variables are in play. As you have experienced, I maintained all my strength gains and in fact got stronger. That alone sold me.
I would say, based off my experience, recomp benefits hit around week 2. I would recommend a min 8 week run if possible... really shines week 4-6 which where I am at now.
For me I was skeptical going in. As stated, I've not had the best experiences with Laxo in the past.With DSU, what when do you notice changes in recomping, and overall strength, i have been using it for 2 weeks now, this is day 14, i have maintained all of my strength from my 8 week run with halodrol and tr3n, , next week is my 3rd week of pct.
Appreciate the feedback. So far it seems DSU is holding up for you in the strength department post cycle, which is pretty impressive if that maintains throughout week 3 and onward.Week 3, day 15 starts tomorrow, so I will post back at end of week.
I have been using Nitrile gloves to apply both DSU and Exotherm, i normally pour one pump on to left or right forearm then spread it all on inner arm, delts, traps and neck, is this ideal for application e.g. am will be left side then pre workout or pm will be right. I also then apply exotherm to abdominal area to keep it away from DSU.Appreciate the feedback. So far it seems DSU is holding up for you in the strength department post cycle, which is pretty impressive if that maintains throughout week 3 and onward.
I used it as a natty cycle, so it will be nice to compare.
Sounds like a solid system.I have been using Nitrile gloves to apply both DSU and Exotherm, i normally pour one pump on to left or right forearm then spread it all on inner arm, delts, traps and neck, is this ideal for application e.g. am will be left side then pre workout or pm will be right. I also then apply exotherm to abdominal area to keep it away from DSU.
Now towards end of week 3 PCT, i have not lost any strength and seem to be sharpening up by the day despite running at maintenance calories. If anything i have gained strength based on my back session yesterday, chest day on monday felt hard but i think it was due to performing 30 reps for my first set with 215lbs. "chest was tired then"Appreciate the feedback. So far it seems DSU is holding up for you in the strength department post cycle, which is pretty impressive if that maintains throughout week 3 and onward.
I used it as a natty cycle, so it will be nice to compare.
Drink a lot of water if you get a headache and space doses out accordingly.Just reading throw the threads.
Seems headaches are the biggest side effects.
Also what am I reading above hot flashes and shortness of breath?
I'm not of a fan of the headaches cause I get one everyday from natural things around me.
Most importantly though how does this effect glucose and thyroid?
Is the nitrile gloves a must, I can't have this stuff getting on family members.
Watch your blood pressureJust reading throw the threads.
Seems headaches are the biggest side effects.
Also what am I reading above hot flashes and shortness of breath?
I'm not of a fan of the headaches cause I get one everyday from natural things around me.
Most importantly though how does this effect glucose and thyroid?
Is the nitrile gloves a must, I can't have this stuff getting on family members.
Did you try dietary changes (spinach helped Hastur - was not on SU but still) or increased nitrates (ie. HYDRO3) or EU?Watch your blood pressure
I had to stop my run due to it skyrocketing my BP.
Still, wish I could have gave it a good run, I literally had to throw over a half a bottle away
Yeah tried to cut out caffeine and yeah love HYDRO3. Take it every time I went to the gymDid you try dietary changes (spinach helped Hastur - was not on SU but still) or increased nitrates (ie. HYDRO3) or EU?
Yep fair enoughYeah tried to cut out caffeine and yeah love HYDRO3. Take it every time I went to the gym
Just made me feel so lethargic, headaches, sweat, low libido etc I can't remember my readings but they weren't good
Don't get me wrong I love OL! Some supps just don't agree with some
Watch your blood pressure
I had to stop my run due to it skyrocketing my BP.
Still, wish I could have gave it a good run, I literally had to throw over a half a bottle away
The potassium content and nitrate content of Spinach brought my BP down into a more reasonable range while on cycle, I'm eating 200g a day as a salad, it works.Did you try dietary changes (spinach helped Hastur - was not on SU but still) or increased nitrates (ie. HYDRO3) or EU?
Each serving is 2mL (1 pump), but we recommend 2 servings per day (4mL or 2 pumps) which would give you a 30 day supplyhow many serving is there in dermastrenght?
Nice! Very glad you're responding well to it. I enjoy it for the joint relief it gives me.A couple of weeks in DSU and I'm loving it I noticed that I'm not where near as sore the next day or 2 following a workout sometimes not even at all and I have kept up the intensity. Not gonna lie I'm beginning to like this better than Sup3r 11
30 day= 100 mg of laxo per day?Each serving is 2mL (1 pump), but we recommend 2 servings per day (4mL or 2 pumps) which would give you a 30 day supply
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