I'm on Phosphatidic acid Ya'll

Pec.Major said:
So 900mg+750mg = 1650 mg PA pre workout?
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913mg+1500mg = 2400mg pre workout

Not sure why people here are micromanaging their doses so much. If you look at the proposed MOA of PA, it's fine to take it all pre-workout. I'm noticing the benefits I've always gotten with PA dosing it all at once. I'm much stronger, and having insane glycogen retention.
 
Lynks8 said:
Who's drinking a shake ~15-20 minutes before working out?
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Sparkss said:
Quite a few people do, actually, as part of their PWO :). Especially those on a bulk. I add a scoop of hydro whey to my PWO, plus my intra is basically all hydro whey, as do several others I have seen post here (where I got the idea).
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Although to be fair they recommend drinking it about an hour before, not 15 ~ 20 minutes before. I closed that window by using hydro whey (digested faster).
 
ma70 said:
913mg+1500mg = 2400mg pre workout

Not sure why people here are micromanaging their doses so much. If you look at the proposed MOA of PA, it's fine to take it all pre-workout. I'm noticing the benefits I've always gotten with PA dosing it all at once. I'm much stronger, and having insane glycogen retention.
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This!
I am not sure who people complicate it so much! Take a solid dose 1 hour pre workout .
 
ma70 said:
913mg+1500mg = 2400mg pre workout

Not sure why people here are micromanaging their doses so much. If you look at the proposed MOA of PA, it's fine to take it all pre-workout. I'm noticing the benefits I've always gotten with PA dosing it all at once. I'm much stronger, and having insane glycogen retention.
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Ive been using 750 mg pre workout for a little over a month now with results, do you think I would get more results with a higher dose?
 
georgetown said:
Ive been using 750 mg pre workout for a little over a month now with results, do you think I would get more results with a higher dose?
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I'd say past 1500mg is where diminishing returns are, but I got all of my PA products for so cheap I don't care so I'm running 2400mg ED.
 
georgetown said:
Epiq PA but can/want to add fearns granules to it too
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I'm using the same stuff. It's legit. Like I said, use 750-1500mg and you're good to go, or if you don't care about diminishing returns and want max effectiveness in a short period, 2400mg.
 
Sparkss said:
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Although to be fair they recommend drinking it about an hour before, not 15 ~ 20 minutes before. I closed that window by using hydro whey (digested faster).
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To clarify: I always drink a shake before working out. Just not 15-20 minutes before. That was my point.

The question to which I was responding was about consuming PA and protein at the same time. I would hazard a guess to say most people are getting their pre-workout meal/shake in at least 1 hour prior, and taking their PWO supps (including PA) ~15-20 minutes before their session. Hence, my recommendation was not to worry about the potentially negative interactions of PA/protein.

I definitely believe in the value of pre-workout nutrition. If one had to choose between pre or post-workout feeding, (a false dilemma to be sure), pre wins out, as demonstrated in numerous studies. Overall though, protein-timing really isn't that important as long as you're hitting your protein goals on a daily basis and maintaining a positive nitrogen balance.
 
ma70 said:
I'm using the same stuff. It's legit. Like I said, use 750-1500mg and you're good to go, or if you don't care about diminishing returns and want max effectiveness in a short period, 2400mg.
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So you're dosing 1 scoop Tr1umph + 10 pills of epiq? What differences have you noted at such a high dose? It's been awhile since I did more than ~1g PA. I personally felt I had diminishing returns above that, but maybe it's worth revisiting.
 
Lynks8 said:
So you're dosing 1 scoop Tr1umph + 10 pills of epiq? What differences have you noted at such a high dose? It's been awhile since I did more than ~1g PA. I personally felt I had diminishing returns above that, but maybe it's worth revisiting.
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As I've stated, diminishing returns are definitely there after 1500mg PA personally for me, but I got all this stuff for dirt cheap and I figured I'd go for the mega dose. Glycogen retention/strength is very, very good right now. I'm pretty much looking/feeling full all the time even with normal amounts of carbs (I'm on "maintenance" calories, not bulking).
 
Sparkss said:
No worries, that sale/site was posted earlier in this thread already. What is the Exp date on the bottles you received? Still the same batch with a Sept 27 (IIRC) expiration? Thanks.
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Yup, from the same batch with an expiration date of 10/16. I was suprised by that, but makes sense why they ran to straight bogo sales on it.
 
Sparkss said:
No worries, that sale/site was posted earlier in this thread already. What is the Exp date on the bottles you received? Still the same batch with a Sept 27 (IIRC) expiration? Thanks.
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The bottles I got have an expiration date of 10/28/2016.

Also, does anyone know how much PA is in the Orange Triad + greens I am taking which contains 900 mg of soy lecithin?

Thanks!
 
I do not wait to drink my second helping of Tr1umph!
Yesterday was my first dose, very good! taste peach.
 
bb333 said:
I was going to do, 45 minutes pre work ara,
and 30 minutes pre work Tr1umph.
So it's good to take it all together!
ok :)
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It's recommended to take them together. Soy Lecithin Granules+ArA is synergistic in making the ArA more effective, and most ingredients in Tr1umph are best used pre-workout (Alpha-GPC, Soy Lecithin Granules, Elev-ATP, etc.)
 
ma70 said:
It's recommended to take them together. Soy Lecithin Granules+ArA is synergistic in making the ArA more effective, and most ingredients in Tr1umph are best used pre-workout (Alpha-GPC, Soy Lecithin Granules, Elev-ATP, etc.)
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^this... Tr1umph will emulsify the ArA.
 
bb333 said:
I do not wait to drink my second helping of Tr1umph!
Yesterday was my first dose, very good! taste peach.
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Yeah bud the flavors are great. I had a banana strawberry that made me want to mix it with vodka... I got happy every time I drank it, thinking of vacationing in the Caribbeans
 
mmorso said:
Yeah bud the flavors are great. I had a banana strawberry that made me want to mix it with vodka... I got happy every time I drank it, thinking of vacationing in the Caribbeans
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The old flavoring system blew the new one out of the water though. If you had the original Peach or Orange in the small tubs, you'd never want to go with anything different :D
 
ikeNball said:
SOMEONE IN THE KNOW want to PM me and educate me on PA and how to dose it?
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Just read the thread ;)

Short explained:
With PA you activate mTOR signaling even more and more PA = hypertrophy/gains
Take 750mg or more 1 hour prior workout.
 
Are you guys taking pre only or 7 days a week? I have seen various protocols and was seeing results pre only but wondered if anyone noticed a difference 7 days a week?
 
Danes said:
Just read the thread ;)

Short explained:
With PA you activate mTOR signaling even more and more PA = hypertrophy/gains
Take 750mg or more 1 hour prior workout.
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I believe somewhere muscleupcrohns said 2-3 hours is fine to take pre workout. I have been doing about 2 hours max.

Will it have the same effect?
 
powder city isn't a sponsor, so even though the link is blocked, i'd still remove it.

If it's mediator, it's good, but the price is actually worse per/mg than other mediator products you can get from various board sponsors.
 
Lynks8 said:
Well, all I was saying is there are better mediator choices, but yea...in terms of how much anabolic/ergogenic efficacy you get per dollar, Tr1umph Conqu3rs all. ;)
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Ye I know that site, event there bulk powder is more expensive then cap mediator product, I am using the epic one right now because it was bogo, when I ran out I will be on Tr1umph
 
Sunflower Lecithin Non-Gmo 16 oz (454 grams)
It states that it has 0.9g of PA.
Do I go for that? 17$ with also all goodies

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