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New Product VIRON FAQ!!!

mbonheur said:
Yes, I already ordered with them in the past and it went great. However, ML has also Yohimbine, Rauwolscine, etc. relatively cheap and you don't have to worry about customs and seizures.
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Where are you?? Belgium did you say??

I have never had trouble with customs etc in UK
 
M.I.D said:
Where are you?? Belgium did you say??

I have never had trouble with customs etc in UK
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Ah ok, good for you. Yes, Belgium. It only happened once and the additional fee was like 120% of the original price, so pretty expensive experience
 
mbonheur said:
Yes, I already ordered with them in the past and it went great. However, ML has also Yohimbine, Rauwolscine, etc. relatively cheap and you don't have to worry about customs and seizures.
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Exact!

ps.
what brand of advice Yohimbine? :D
 
GreekTheBrick said:
UK customs are of the least strict. I hope this wont change with Brexit
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I have only had one problem where i ordered 5 tubs of tr1iumph 2 dsu 1 su and 1 hydro3 from olympus labs and it was due to item weight, they only added £20 as the import tax which was acceptable.
 
mbonheur said:
Interesting, how do they get the stuff then?

They are mentioned on the website of Performax for instance
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Not sure. I sign off on all the shipping and Ive never shipped to Germany. So either its a fake or someone from UK is shipping it to them.
Can you PM me a link to the german site please.
 
M.I.D said:
Apologies, I was positive I read it can be used year round and that a few people do so...
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No worries mate

Most test boosters are recommended to take 4 week breaks to let Your body reset
 
Many people do cycle test boosters and I know more than a few that take Viron year round.
I dont know of specific research to support either being superior.
For example are you going to gain more from taking a break vs just continued use? Hard to say without some study showing that the ingredients lose steam over time or work better short term.

I think you can safely use Viron long term to keep test levels at an optimal level.
 
Im currently running Viron and Follidrone together. I've read that Viron can raise Estrogen levels. What is best added in with these to help control that
 
For sure. I used it at 2cap daily when blasting 300mg weekly and now as needed on normal TRT doses. It does the trick.
 
I actually would take both caps in the a.m. without food.

I've said this many times, Letrone is the real deal.
 
crazycherry66 said:
Im currently running Viron and Follidrone together. I've read that Viron can raise Estrogen levels. What is best added in with these to help control that
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Letrone is best to combine with Viron.
Decreases estro
increased testosterone
increased hgh, igf-1, t3 and t4, ghrelin, cAMP.
 
Will order it tomorrow Brundel. So viron 2 caps daily for 5 days and then 2 days off. Does it matter if these days are consecutive or can it just be non training days off. Also is Letrone Am or Pm dosing
 
crazycherry66 said:
Will order it tomorrow Brundel. So viron 2 caps daily for 5 days and then 2 days off. Does it matter if these days are consecutive or can it just be non training days off. Also is Letrone Am or Pm dosing
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I like Letrone in the morning and pre workout.

But if you want to avoid some of the hunger sides,
Take it at night before bed.
 
M.I.D said:
brundel - do you have any plans for a stronger test booster in the pipeline?
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I think Rebirth combined with Viron is plenty strong. Rebirth will raise test levels and Viron will not only help raise test but will release more FREE test.
The thing with test boosters is unless you are on the lower end of the range or in PCT they dont do as much as we want them too. Even if they work , pretty much all cases we are limited to the bodies natural output which is sort of regulated by other hormones. The goal with test boosters is to get you to the top end of range and then have as much of the test "FREE" as possible. IN this way you might see some benefits above PCT/recovery.
Viron+ Rebirth.
Also....there are alot of test boosters out there. Currently in the pipeline is the PRE and the others I have been talking about.
And we are looking at a possible new anabolic product ;)
I have 3 raws we are going to start testing next week. IF this goes even 50% as well as I hope you guys will be in for something special.
 
brundel said:
I think Rebirth combined with Viron is plenty strong. Rebirth will raise test levels and Viron will not only help raise test but will release more FREE test.
The thing with test boosters is unless you are on the lower end of the range or in PCT they dont do as much as we want them too. Even if they work , pretty much all cases we are limited to the bodies natural output which is sort of regulated by other hormones. The goal with test boosters is to get you to the top end of range and then have as much of the test "FREE" as possible. IN this way you might see some benefits above PCT/recovery.
Viron+ Rebirth.
Also....there are alot of test boosters out there. Currently in the pipeline is the PRE and the others I have been talking about.
And we are looking at a possible new anabolic product ;)
I have 3 raws we are going to start testing next week. IF this goes even 50% as well as I hope you guys will be in for something special.
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Is this anabolic the one you say isn't suppressive?
 
M.I.D said:
Is this anabolic the one you say isn't suppressive?
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I dont think so. I think we are talking about 2 separate things ;).

Then first is an anabolic being tested currently. Tank and yelis are going to run labs for us.
The one we I mentioned in the last thread is a multi compound natural anabolic. I dont think it will be suppressive but Im not 100% as it looks like one may have some things that bind to androgen receptors. Ill know more once we run some tests.
 
paul56778 said:
do you feel GH booster product will be much more effective than MK677.
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I think that potentially this stuff could increase HGH levels comparable to 5iu Pharm growth daily.
This is only an assessment based upon research though and currently I can only speculate. We do have labs coming though.
 
If you need a tester I'm here, I been taking your stuff for years now and swear by everything first hand. I'm 48, still as athletic as when I was in my twenties, no injuries or medical issues.
 
brundel said:
I dont think so. I think we are talking about 2 separate things ;).

Then first is an anabolic being tested currently. Tank and yelis are going to run labs for us.
The one we I mentioned in the last thread is a multi compound natural anabolic. I dont think it will be suppressive but Im not 100% as it looks like one may have some things that bind to androgen receptors. Ill know more once we run some tests.
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Any further on with this?
 
The HGH product had to be canned. Spotty labs and potential legal sketchiness.

The new natty anabolic is shaping up nicely.
I found what I think will be the final ingredient yesterday and we are working on standardization. This takes time of course but we will begin testing on a mix with a full spectrum extract knowing that the final stuff will only be stronger.
This stuff looks like it will be
Highly anabolic.
Burn fat well, similar to Follidrone 2.
Mildly euphoric.
Increased testosterone (this is not what makes it anabolic, its just a bonus)

Testing will begin soon. Maybe 2 weeks if things go well.
 
brundel said:
The HGH product had to be canned. Spotty labs and potential legal sketchiness.

The new natty anabolic is shaping up nicely.
I found what I think will be the final ingredient yesterday and we are working on standardization. This takes time of course but we will begin testing on a mix with a full spectrum extract knowing that the final stuff will only be stronger.
This stuff looks like it will be
Highly anabolic.
Burn fat well, similar to Follidrone 2.
Mildly euphoric.
Increased testosterone (this is not what makes it anabolic, its just a bonus)

Testing will begin soon. Maybe 2 weeks if things go well.
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Sounds awesome
 
brundel said:
The HGH product had to be canned. Spotty labs and potential legal sketchiness.

The new natty anabolic is shaping up nicely.
I found what I think will be the final ingredient yesterday and we are working on standardization. This takes time of course but we will begin testing on a mix with a full spectrum extract knowing that the final stuff will only be stronger.
This stuff looks like it will be
Highly anabolic.
Burn fat well, similar to Follidrone 2.
Mildly euphoric.
Increased testosterone (this is not what makes it anabolic, its just a bonus)

Testing will begin soon. Maybe 2 weeks if things go well.
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Let me log it for you. I did an unsponsored fd 2.0 log and updated daily. Posted end results after the 2nd bottle. Keep me in mind ;)
 
Hey brundel have you started testing this yet,curious to know more about this exciting new supplement
 
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