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BLR Pre Workout

RipdnTxs said:
Too bad the pre does not have a stim free version. Stims and I do not get along anymore.....
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I hear you there brotha. I got burnt on heavy stims and took a year+ break from all stimmed supplements. With that said, this stim is more focused on acute performance increase. It will have a solid stim profile but will not be over the top stim heavy. Maybe it will be tolerable for you. Realistically, most people prefer stims in their PWO. Maybe Brundel will look into a stim free version in the future.
 
Jebrook said:
I hear you there brotha. I got burnt on heavy stims and took a year+ break from all stimmed supplements. With that said, this stim is more focused on acute performance increase. It will have a solid stim profile but will not be over the top stim heavy. Maybe it will be tolerable for you. Realistically, most people prefer stims in their PWO. Maybe Brundel will look into a stim free version in the future.
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I haven't hit the lower stim level in a long long time but I can feel it coming on. I get sick of the crash/jitters/heart rate and BP increase. Been rotating between Dmaa, amp, ephedrine, and the new OL stim for a few years (obviously not the OL one). Definitely looking forward to this one.
 
Just been so busy.......Lots of stuff coming.
Working hard on the pre every time I get a free moment. Shouldnt be too long. Incincerine will be right behind it
 
Working hard on this.
I estimate 30 days before we begin flavor testing ;)
 
First ever powdered drink mix yes. We will run pretty extensive testing with regards to flavoring. Will probably give some away when we get closer to the final mix.
 
No new stim correct?
 
Afi140 said:
No new stim correct?
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Probably not.
We do have a new, plant based stim we can use but its very vasoconstrictive and I think counter productive for a pre.
Dont worry though. Itll have some kick ;)
 
Yes 100%

Soon= 30-60 days we will release something ultra cool. EVERYONE is gonna like this.
3-6 months pre workout release.
3-6 months a new anabolic. natural of course.
 
So it looks like the new pre might be coming MUCH sooner than expected.
I had planned for the second half of the year but....it might be coming alot faster. Testing flavors now.
I plan on using some flavors I dont normally see.
Green tea/Goji berry
Blood orange/Tangerine
Ginger/pomegranite
Etc.
 
brundel said:
So it looks like the new pre might be coming MUCH sooner than expected.
I had planned for the second half of the year but....it might be coming alot faster. Testing flavors now.
I plan on using some flavors I dont normally see.
Green tea/Goji berry
Blood orange/Tangerine
Ginger/pomegranite
Etc.
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In for Ginger/Pomegranite!! Would be EPIC, if you could pull it off
 
brundel said:
Testing flavors now.
I plan on using some flavors I dont normally see.
Green tea/Goji berry
Blood orange/Tangerine
Ginger/pomegranite
Etc.
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If you can pull off any of those combinations, and refrain from using so much dye/coloring that it's like drinking a marker, I will absolutely stock up.
 
brundel said:
So it looks like the new pre might be coming MUCH sooner than expected.
I had planned for the second half of the year but....it might be coming alot faster. Testing flavors now.
I plan on using some flavors I dont normally see.
Green tea/Goji berry
Blood orange/Tangerine
Ginger/pomegranite
Etc.
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Thats what im talking about.
 
paul56778 said:
Spicy Cinnamon would be a great flavour:
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I love cinnamon but I dont know if it would be something alot of people would like.
I have boxes of those cinnamon toothpicks and I chew on them all day at work. Addicted.
Ive got to think about what the vast majority of customers would like to have.
I want to be unique and offer new stuff but not be so out of the box that people are afraid to try it.
 
Etomic said:
If you can pull off any of those combinations, and refrain from using so much dye/coloring that it's like drinking a marker, I will absolutely stock up.
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I dont plan on using any added color and Im going to do my best to use only natural flavors.
So many companies just make their products and put no thought into your health.
 
brundel said:
I dont plan on using any added color and Im going to do my best to use only natural flavors.
So many companies just make their products and put no thought into your health.
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Very happy to hear that.

Beyond health, I never understood why anyone would want take a product to help their appearance but ignore the fact that it'll yellow their teeth.
 
Etomic said:
Very happy to hear that.

Beyond health, I never understood why anyone would want take a product to help their appearance but ignore the fact that it'll yellow their teeth.
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I want to do more.
new flavors.
Just because its a supplement doesnt mean it has to have garbage in it. Im going to try to use the healthiest options possible.
Im exploring all natural options but they generally dont taste super good.
Might be a medium somewhere but I dont plan on adding any colors. They serve no purpose in my opinion.
 
M.I.D said:
Hey guys,

What happened to the Pre Workout you guys were looking to put together?

Cheers
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Damn!!! I did not realize how long ago this thread started! Hope its time now!
 
I sure hope it's the definition of game changer!
 
The issue is we like to do things differently. Meaning we use ingredients nobody else is using and with regards to the pre the whole formula is not like others you might see. This means even with a single ingredient product there is alot of testing to make sure the ingredients work.
We have to test =
Raw material source
Extraction processes
Standardization
Once this is done we have to test to see if the target chem actually works as hypothesized. It frequently doesnt so it gets canned.
now imagine there are 6-12 ingredients we have to deal with. Its a hopelessly tedious process.
I could just release it and say its amazing.
or I could just copy everyone else. This is what you get from most.

Or I can make it amazing. but it takes time.
Im gonna take the time and make it amazing.

yah...it takes time. But insane stuff comes form this process.
Epicatechin
atractylodes
flos carth
etc

I can tell you that Im doing my best to run the show and do all the R&D at once. There is only one me :)
 
brundel said:
The issue is we like to do things differently. Meaning we use ingredients nobody else is using and with regards to the pre the whole formula is not like others you might see. This means even with a single ingredient product there is alot of testing to make sure the ingredients work.
We have to test =
Raw material source
Extraction processes
Standardization
Once this is done we have to test to see if the target chem actually works as hypothesized. It frequently doesnt so it gets canned.
now imagine there are 6-12 ingredients we have to deal with. Its a hopelessly tedious process.
I could just release it and say its amazing.
or I could just copy everyone else. This is what you get from most.

Or I can make it amazing. but it takes time.
Im gonna take the time and make it amazing.

yah...it takes time. But insane stuff comes form this process.
Epicatechin
atractylodes
flos carth
etc

I can tell you that Im doing my best to run the show and do all the R&D at once. There is only one me :)
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With the way companies are reformulating lately and coming and going do you find yourself having to restart alot on this? I can see that being beyond frustrating being a one man wrecking crew.
 
rtmilburn said:
halfhuman said:
I respect that but don't tease it before you are at least close. This thread is so old and he has done this with tons of products.
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BLR doesn't even have tons of products to its name. He tests these things publicly to get feedback. Kind of hard to do that without telling everyone what it is. Not only does he own BLR but he researches, test, and formulates everything his self. Imagine doing that while maintaining a constant forum presence on multiple forums. Think you're being unreasonable.
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mechka_grizli said:
rtmilburn said:
BLR doesn't even have tons of products to its name. He tests these things publicly to get feedback. Kind of hard to do that without telling everyone what it is. Not only does he own BLR but he researches, test, and formulates everything his self. Imagine doing that while maintaining a constant forum presence on multiple forums. Think you're being unreasonable.
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Your quoting the wrong person bud. Lol. I never said that kid.

I'm part of BLR
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TheMovement said:
With the way companies are reformulating lately and coming and going do you find yourself having to restart alot on this? I can see that being beyond frustrating being a one man wrecking crew.
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Well the good news is mostly no.
For example I saw a competitor releasing a new PRE and I thought great its going to be something new and exciting. But no. Just the same old rehashing of ingredients everyone else is already using. Nothing new, just a new paint job on an old car.
And I see new products come and go but they go because there is nothing new about them. Again just old stuff with new paintjobs.
My goal is to create something new.

In fact I think Im ready for some testing.
Have about 500g of something that I think looks pretty promising.
You running anything currently TheMovement
 
mechka_grizli said:
rtmilburn said:
BLR doesn't even have tons of products to its name. He tests these things publicly to get feedback. Kind of hard to do that without telling everyone what it is. Not only does he own BLR but he researches, test, and formulates everything his self. Imagine doing that while maintaining a constant forum presence on multiple forums. Think you're being unreasonable.
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Its harder than is might seem. Plus trying to have any semblance of a life lol.
The good news is I really enjoy doing the R&D. Finding something that looks anabolic in a plant. Especially something I dont think anyone else is on to.
Figuring out the best ways to get the plant, the best ways to extract the chemical/s from the plant then following it through and beginning testing.
The test phases are so interesting. Just comparing what the testers say compared to what I hypothesize and what the research states is super interesting knowing the testers dont know anything. When things start to line up its like discovering fire.
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