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Chest day !
Work a little later today so was planning on waking up at 5 however my dog had other plans and woke me up at 4 anyways lol tried going back to sleep and got back up at 530 still felt pretty good going into the gym, due to the break in sleep decided to go with a scoop and a half of Stimul8 for pre along with a scoop of Nvein from nutrex
Bench, rep range was suppose to be 12-15 since I wasn't getting it in the beginning I dropped the weight and threw in an extra set
135x12 135x12 185x13 for warmups
235x8 235x9 235x8 205x12 185x11+2
At this point got a text from my girl that my dog got sick and threw up in the house so ran home real quick to help out with that and walk him and took a 30 minute break pretty much
Db incline
55x12 55x12 warmups
85x12 85x10 85x8+4
Db flat fly
30x12 30x12 30x12+4
Cable fly
40x12 40x12 40x12+4
Triceps
Push down
140x15 140x15 140x13 140x8+7
Overhead extension
105x8 105x8 65x15 65x15+8
Flat bench cable extension
95x12 95x12 95x12+3
Had to hurry a little towards the end but the intensity went up so got a great tricep pump
also kind of messed up plans somehow and I thought I had enough food for today but I don't so I'll have to improvise for lunch and after work meal I don't like to switch meals through out the day unless it's just like chicken for steak but everything else should be ok , I think I hear chipotle calling my name anyways ;)
 
Good looking volume there man.

Thanks man, this is on a time limit too lol when I have all day I don't stop I've done several 4-6 hour chest, arm and leg workouts and at one point I was hitting full body every other day my workouts where close to 6 hours every workout
 
I was thinking (never a good thing) , what if I run this for the 8 weeks and then run tr3st for another 4 weeks for a total of a 12 week cycle
 
Thanks man, this is on a time limit too lol when I have all day I don't stop I've done several 4-6 hour chest, arm and leg workouts and at one point I was hitting full body every other day my workouts where close to 6 hours every workout

Dude, thats music to my ears, srs. In the past when Ive been purposefully pursuing overreach conditions Ive had to do similiarly epic-lengthed training bouts.

At the moment Im doing fullbody twice /d; as you might imagine, session volume isnt huge but add those 14 sessions up and you end up with decent weekly volume. Ive found through much trial and error that my body responds best to very high frequency.

I was thinking (never a good thing) , what if I run this for the 8 weeks and then run tr3st for another 4 weeks for a total of a 12 week cycle

Interesting...I assume you mean oral Trest
 
Dude, thats music to my ears, srs. In the past when Ive been purposefully pursuing overreach conditions Ive had to do similiarly epic-lengthed training bouts.

At the moment Im doing fullbody twice /d; as you might imagine, session volume isnt huge but add those 14 sessions up and you end up with decent weekly volume. Ive found through much trial and error that my body responds best to very high frequency.



Interesting...I assume you mean oral Trest

Seriously if I keep it 4-6 weeks of training total of over 4 hours per body part per week that's when I see the best results and in my opinion look my best as long as you're eating enough there's no problem doing so for a short amount of time and then switching it up, 14 sessions a week I wish I could do that, I'm trying to get at least one day a week with two sessions but working above 40 hours a week going to school and looking to buy a place it's though to get my current 1.5-2 hours in daily

Also yes what do you think about finishing with the oral Trest? Idk if that makes it too long of a cycle but I would definitely love to see the results
 
I dont think it would necessarily be too long per se...at the 12week conclusion you can be pretty much guaranteed shutdown, tho :D

4wks would be a minimum Id say for oral TR3ST; some guys experience it kicking very quickly...others, up to 10-14 days. So you may only have that famous prewo kick for 2 wks.

Youd also need to be prepared for possible estro difficulties. Like, in a league different to the andros.

This is your first cycle? Id think carefully about TR3ST before jumping in.
 
I dont think it would necessarily be too long per se...at the 12week conclusion you can be pretty much guaranteed shutdown, tho :D

4wks would be a minimum Id say for oral TR3ST; some guys experience it kicking very quickly...others, up to 10-14 days. So you may only have that famous prewo kick for 2 wks.

Youd also need to be prepared for possible estro difficulties. Like, in a league different to the andros.

This is your first cycle? Id think carefully about TR3ST before jumping in.

Yeah first cycle, just really interested in tr3st but I'm pretty sure my best option would be wait till next cycle hah
 
Yeah first cycle, just really interested in tr3st but I'm pretty sure my best option would be wait till next cycle hah

Tbh Im kinda conflicted...as a rep, officially, I would err on the side of caution and say may be best to wait.

Buuut if I take my rep hat off, Im thinking damn, buy the TR3ST, have your ancilliaries on hand, and see how you feel at 6 or 7wks. If you feel good...go for it.
 
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Ladies and gentleman this top sirloin burger with smoked provolone ends the 3 days of switching dinner chicken with red meat. Do I think this set me back ? Not at all for over a month now my meals have been on point and I'm still macro-ink my dinner out just switching the sources. But anyways back to regular chicken and veggies for meals 3-6 for most of the cycle still plan on incorporating red meat again anyways just at least not this week
 
Tbh Im kinda conflicted...as a rep, officially, I would err on the side of caution and say may be best to wait.

Buuut if I take my rep hat off, Im thinking damn, buy the TR3ST, have your ancilliaries on hand, and see how you feel at 6 or 7wks. If you feel good...go for it.

Lol that's what I was thinking see how I feel after week 6 but still might be better off waiting to see what tr3st can do until next cycle so I can be sure to use it for the right amount of time and get as much benefits as possible
 
Ok everybody today was back bicep day , 9-11 reps weight is at 193.6 this morning
Decided to switch barbell rows for Dumbbells rows today and warmed up with some pull ups just 2 sets of 5
Db rows
55x11 warmup
90x11 90x11 90x11 90x9+3
Behind the neck pull downs
180x9 180x9 180x8+3
Cable rows I usually go really heavy here so last week and today I went much lighter and much slower reps
165x11 165x11 165x11+5
Reverse pull
135x11 135x9 135x9+3
Biceps
Bar curls
75x11 75x11 75x9 75x11+3
Preach curls
60x9 60x9 60x9+6
Db curls
35x11 35x11 35x9+3
Then hit 2 sets of my finisher 90 seconds switching off between 40lb bar and 20lb db felt great came home measure the guns and had some 16.999999999 inch arms. Overall a good day, got a 2 a days planned for tomorrow shoulders in the am triceps and light biceps in the pm
 
In for more food porn
 
Ok guys so i was reading the article on here about how to dose the andros and it says take most of your daily dose in the morning to mimic the body's own natural test production since tomorrow tomorrow will be the first day of the 3rd week I will give this a try, I'm planning on trying to do one dose pwo (5am) another dose post workout out (730-8am) and then another dose after work before school (4-7pm) it varies but I'll aim for 6pm most days what does everyone think
 
Also, going to add ep1c into pct try to help maintain as much as possible; do you guys recommend transdermal or pills never used td before
 
I'm new to the site, but will be following your progress, I'm interested in using the 1 and 4 andros from OL, I'm getting my natural test checked, the doc thinks it's low, possibly going to be put on test undecanoate so don't want to **** about with blood just yet, good luck
 
Also, going to add ep1c into pct try to help maintain as much as possible; do you guys recommend transdermal or pills never used td before

Hi, I'm considering starting my first cycle right after summer. (Don't want to do it now because I don't wanna gain any fat and lose abs for the Summer) I have been suggested that I would need

2x Sup3r 1 elite
2x Super3r 4 elite

What would I do for Pct and on cycle? I'm new to this so just bear with me. Wanna make sure I have everything right before I start. Feel free to DM me anyone
 
Hi, I'm considering starting my first cycle right after summer. (Don't want to do it now because I don't wanna gain any fat and lose abs for the Summer) I have been suggested that I would need

2x Sup3r 1 elite
2x Super3r 4 elite

What would I do for Pct and on cycle? I'm new to this so just bear with me. Wanna make sure I have everything right before I start. Feel free to DM me anyone

Ive PMd you man, I think a light PH like 11kt may be best suited, IF you are wanting to go that route.
 
I'm new to the site, but will be following your progress, I'm interested in using the 1 and 4 andros from OL, I'm getting my natural test checked, the doc thinks it's low, possibly going to be put on test undecanoate so don't want to **** about with blood just yet, good luck

Welcome aboard brother! I'm new to the site as well this is my first log and my first run with the andros, only finishing the second week right now but I am already up about 5 lbs total and look like it , I'm loving it so far. Just make sure everything else is on point to get the best out of it, like your diet and training ! Let me know if u do run them and if you log it!
 
Hi, I'm considering starting my first cycle right after summer. (Don't want to do it now because I don't wanna gain any fat and lose abs for the Summer) I have been suggested that I would need

2x Sup3r 1 elite
2x Super3r 4 elite

What would I do for Pct and on cycle? I'm new to this so just bear with me. Wanna make sure I have everything right before I start. Feel free to DM me anyone

This is my first run too so even thou I've done my research I don't want to give you any wrong information. But definitely do tons of research and have a plan, and everything ready and on hand as well. Also make sure everything is on point first and you'll get the best out of it! I'm going to be sure to detail everything on my log as well so keep your eye on it and you're more then welcome to pm me for any information i put up, or training and diet I'm sure I could help out with as well I'm more experienced and knowledgeable on those subjects then running cycles
 
This is my first run too so even thou I've done my research I don't want to give you any wrong information. But definitely do tons of research and have a plan, and everything ready and on hand as well. Also make sure everything is on point first and you'll get the best out of it! I'm going to be sure to detail everything on my log as well so keep your eye on it and you're more then welcome to pm me for any information i put up, or training and diet I'm sure I could help out with as well I'm more experienced and knowledgeable on those subjects then running cycles

Sounds good man just PM me. Maybe u can help fine tune my diet. I'm 5'11 24 years old weigh 172 at 11.5%bf. Currently cutting for one more month with no supplementation other than whey protein. Eating 1900 cal 220 Protein 150 carb remainder fat
 
I'm 6ft 2" 205lbs 15% body fat 42 years and still hitting the iron hard

Definitely do some research bro and pick out what's best from you I spent about 4 months googling all this stuff before making the decision and it was worth it I feel this will be the best cycle for me to start with, what's the goal size or lean?
 
Ordering some ep1c for pct just need help can't decide wether pills or transdermal? Also any thoughts on adding it to pct good idea right ?

I prefer td myself, so if you dont mind rubbing yourself... :D

Yeah, PCT is perfect for it. If it were an either/or I would lean slightly more toward TR1UMPH, due to all the ergogens in it...mainly the phosphatidic acid, which tends to keep that on-cycle muscle fullness (amongst other things).
 
I prefer td myself, so if you dont mind rubbing yourself... :D

Yeah, PCT is perfect for it. If it were an either/or I would lean slightly more toward TR1UMPH, due to all the ergogens in it...mainly the phosphatidic acid, which tends to keep that on-cycle muscle fullness (amongst other things).

Damn you got a good point I was thinking the ep1c with rhanderol but now idk haha
 
I prefer td myself, so if you dont mind rubbing yourself... :D

Yeah, PCT is perfect for it. If it were an either/or I would lean slightly more toward TR1UMPH, due to all the ergogens in it...mainly the phosphatidic acid, which tends to keep that on-cycle muscle fullness (amongst other things).

Mayan I shot u a PM my man.
 
Damn you got a good point I was thinking the ep1c with rhanderol but now idk haha

The soy-l content of TR1UMPH will likely help get your lipids back in good range, the andros may have impacted them. Also, SERMs can have a negative impact on lipids.

Perfect world, you run TR1UMPH at least through PCT. If you really have your heart set on EP1C, get that and some Fearn soyl granules in lieu of the TR1UMPH; youll miss out on the other goodies, but youll be proactively improving lipid ratios.
 
The soy-l content of TR1UMPH will likely help get your lipids back in good range, the andros may have impacted them. Also, SERMs can have a negative impact on lipids.

Perfect world, you run TR1UMPH at least through PCT. If you really have your heart set on EP1C, get that and some Fearn soyl granules in lieu of the TR1UMPH; youll miss out on the other goodies, but youll be proactively improving lipid ratios.

... What about both? ... Yeah I'm that guy lol
 
... What about both? ... Yeah I'm that guy lol

If you can afford it then yeah, that should make a good combo for PCT and beyond.

If you get a minute, take a look at the writeup kboxer did, he goes over the benefits of TR1UMPH and what it stacks good with:


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Hell yeah specially with the promo right now thanks man I'll look into it if I do run it this way I'll probably cut out the rhanderol
 
I prefer td myself, so if you dont mind rubbing yourself... :D

Yeah, PCT is perfect for it. If it were an either/or I would lean slightly more toward TR1UMPH, due to all the ergogens in it...mainly the phosphatidic acid, which tends to keep that on-cycle muscle fullness (amongst other things).



Damn you got a good point I was thinking the ep1c with rhanderol but now idk haha

The soy-l content of TR1UMPH will likely help get your lipids back in good range, the andros may have impacted them. Also, SERMs can have a negative impact on lipids.

Perfect world, you run TR1UMPH at least through PCT. If you really have your heart set on EP1C, get that and some Fearn soyl granules in lieu of the TR1UMPH; youll miss out on the other goodies, but youll be proactively improving lipid ratios.

Please explain logic on epic to help on pct aside from its normal functions.
Triumph is a great ancillary, but same as epic need some info on how it helps bring back the raisins. Triumph is something to throw in because of solid profile as a staple same as epic but curious on why your recommending these as pct cycle. Lots of other viable things to spend money on first directly related to pct.

Alpha1agreda if your not using a serm and other compounds your doing it wrong. Don't waste your money on rhanderol other things to spend on. Please post complete pct....I hope your not thinking epic and triumph will be your pct stack.....
 
We are 5 pages in on a PH log, I assumed proper PCT (SERM) had already been addressed and established.

And no, of course Im not claiming an epicatechin product to be sufficient for PCT, I dont believe I stated that.
 
We are 5 pages in on a PH log, I assumed proper PCT (SERM) had already been addressed and established.

And no, of course Im not claiming an epicatechin product to be sufficient for PCT, I dont believe I stated that.

Easy tiger, I wasn't calling you out just curious on if I wasn't aware of something. All I seen was pct, epic and triumph. "Perfect world, you run TR1UMPH at least through PCT. If you really have your heart set on EP1C, get that and some Fearn soyl granules in lieu of the TR1UMPH; youll miss out on the other goodies, but youll be proactively improving lipid ratios."

That is why I asked to post his complete pct. I don't assume anything especially if it's his first run. I'll stay out of this. Don't want to upset anyone.
 
Im not upset..?

You asked me to explain my logic, which I did...*shrug*

OP has Nolva, just did quick search of thread.
 
Im not upset..?

You asked me to explain my logic, which I did...*shrug*

No worries I figured the way you wrote it you were. Lots of guys here are very sensitive so I thought you were not happy with my questions. Best I stay out of this I guess everything is covered.
 
No worries I figured the way you wrote it you were. Lots of guys here are very sensitive so I thought you were not happy with my questions. Best I stay out of this I guess everything is covered.

Well, in my defense, being multi-quoted and asked to explain logic looks a little call-outish :D my response was terse due to that.

I cant speak for alpha but pretty sure no-one wants you leaving the discussion on account of asking questions.
 
No, of course that's not what I'm thinking for pct haha , I'm just thinking of adding on to try to maintain as much of what I gain as possible and thought it'd be good natural stuff to try out anyways, already covered pct stack in the first page ( WAF ) on a reply to you lol nolva for for weeks 20//20/10/10 and adex .5 every other day also have super pct which I'll take full dose
 
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