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Next PES Insider Deal???

Around where it used to be, I can't disclose the rest, but much higher than 2:1:1

What do you mean by higher? As in the leucine content is exponentially higher than the other two?
 
What do you mean by higher?

Leucine is at a higher ratio, sorry I should have specified or that made no sense

Saw your edit, yes

The 4:1:1 was noted in the write up to serve as a now studied example that the ratio works the exact same higher, so we went all the way up to hit that 5g
 
I have moved along, only goofs still buy pes

By "move along" I mean, if you don't like PES this much, then get out of the thread and take your negativity with you. No reason to hang around talking **** other than to be a troll.
 
Move along enough to try constructive criticism, maybe...

Or feel free to PM me any more slander/hate/whatever it is you have built up today lol.

Really, this just gets into admin's crosshairs if its just direct attacks on a sponsor like that man.

Please, back on topic
 
Ain't.no one trolling , I have the right to what I feel and speak my.opinion. sorry I'm not a groupie robot that just spreads love all our your thread.

Deal with it , don't cry over first world issues
 
I'm just trying to be mature and adult, brother.
Insulting myself, our company, and all of our customers, not so much.

Freedom of speech is real but so are forum rules ;)

If all you have is hate keep it out of my thread.
You're free to make your own
See how that fares and if it stays open...



So,
Back on topic
 
I think you can voice an opinion without bashing though. The marketing behind the Amino IV initially was so good that it convinced you that you needed HICA, when in reality the EAA would have been plenty anti-catabolic anyway (not that muscle catabolism is really that big a deal in the first place), so its exclusion is not that big a deal.

The Betaine is arguable, but its inclusion in an intra workout where GI distress is definitely not wanted makes it removal less of an issue IMO.

Personally, I think the argument that the ingredients can be found in another product is a little weak as it implies people will want to/ can afford to/ need to buy both to get full benefits, but you can argue it from a cost perspective instead or even simply getting it to better fit in the category. That's my thoughts.

The changes don't bother me as I would buy it strictly for the EAAs - the others were just an added bonus.
 
My only question is what's the new price point? That's really the deciding factor (at least for me) as to whether the changes are ok or not. At the right competitive price, it's totally fine. If it's still gonna be >$1 per serving then it's not simply due to competitive products (in the same, new, eaa only category) being cheaper
 
Just ban this guy please as he obviously has nothing constructive to add to this thread and is ruining it for everyone else
 
Okay, just going to put this out here right now as fair warning -- feel free to criticize; no one is suggesting everyone aimlessly follow and accept companies or products. That said -- enough of the name-calling and childish behavior. I'd prefer to not see people start getting banned and I'd prefer not seeing the direction of this thread continue downhill.

I believe Jiigzz made a very solid point in that one can question or criticize without being rude about it. Boone also brought up a valid point.

I love Alphamine, a few flavors of Select, and E9 -- I have purchased one tub of AIV over all the years and I didn't purchase again because I wasn't a huge fan of it. So you won't see any fake love coming from me. Point being, you can certainly choose not to like a change or purchase a product, but let's be adults.

Thank you.
 
I think Damon Johns said it best on Shark Tank. He would do anything possible to have his products in Walmart. Most people, especially clothing line would be like ewww Walmart? However the POs generated by a retailer that large, is game changing.

If PES, who has brought some novel ingredients out, changes a few products to sell in large retailers VS, GNC, etc.. I have no problem with that, because the working capital generated should lead to more novel products and R & D
 
There's a difference between disagreeing with a product and the direction it's going and acting like a child who can't have candy at a grocery store check out line. I don't think the former would get deleted.
 
There's a difference between disagreeing with a product and the direction it's going and acting like a child who can't have candy at a grocery store check out line. I don't think the former would get deleted.

What if the child has diabetes
 
On topic guys.

Further insult or misbehaviour is getting reported.

Again, we have this thing called PM's
Or a general convo section.
 
Ain't.no one trolling , I have the right to what I feel and speak my.opinion. sorry I'm not a groupie robot that just spreads love all our your thread.

Deal with it , don't cry over first world issues


Not here you don't. So bye.
 
I feel emotional stress from having to deal with all this arguing.

Please just send me some ABE and I'll settle out of court.

Thx Bye
 
I feel emotional stress from having to deal with all this arguing.

Please just send me some ABE and I'll settle out of court.

Thx Bye

If enough people claim, we'll all end up splitting the bottle and only get 2 caps each :(
 
Wow, I hadn't checked this in a while. So much fighting. I loved Amino IV. It is a good product and still looks like a good eaa product. Maybe a third product which combined things would have avoided issues, but how many products can a company have?

You gotta go in a direction, and if a direction has a financial incentive ...I wouldn't fault anyone for doing that even if it took away something I liked.
 
What's the best way to find out about supplement sales on different websites? I'm planning on running two bottles of ABE for the first time in about 8 weeks and just trying to find the best deal - especially due to the USD/CAD conversion right now. Should I just keep looking at all the websites periodically or is there a place on this website where deals like this are announced? Thanks.

BTW, just order one bottle of Shift and Erase to finish up this cut - my first fat burner/AI and first PES products so I am stoked!
 
^pm me brother, fellow Canadian here I can tell you our best options from a lot of AM sponsors here, been doing it for years :)

We will announce any big sponsor sales we see here, or more often in the company promotions section you can see all sales as they come along.

At any time there are also 2 methods to save on PEScience in my sig ;)
 
That is going to be a great aid to your cut brother, would love to hear how it treats you!
 
Or protein.

Although bdcc stopped replying to my PM's when I said I've never had Select. Guess it wasn't meant to be

This blew my mind. I didn't know how to process it.
 
It is true.

We have a lot lined up (emphasis on A LOT lol).

So much so I am not even sure of the launch schedule. As soon as we finalise it I will start dropping some hints. :)
 
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