JoeDizzle and the recomp cocktail

Joedoubledose

Joedoubledose

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What's up AM , gonna continue Cerberus for a total of 8 weeks but I also decided I will be adding in extra epi andro , instead of primeval I will be using OL super epi at 2 pills a day spaced out the same with Cerberus , and aswell for a little extra recomp effect I'll be taking 4mgs of OL UK rad140 I got from a friend . I will update once to maybe three times a week . Gonna keep calories at maintenance level , some days may be higher then usual depending on if I work or not and for how long . So let's get to it ! For those who are just now following allong I have been in Cerberus for the past 30 days and up 4lbs , so far added 15-30 pounds on certain lifts and I'm ready to see what these next 4 weeks brings . Here is how I look currently for those just now following along Invalid Link RemovedInvalid Link RemovedInvalid Link Removed
 
nice bro- in
 
Subbed!
 
I can't even use again till September, I just want a bottle to stare at longingly in my supplement pantry and dream about gains.
 
In this!
 
Let's see how you finish this one off Joe!
 
In for this buddy!
 
Hey Joe-

what lift was the most noticeable? mine was split between military and rows
 
Joedoubledose said:
Chest shoulders n Tri's tonight. Gonna focus on high volume . Muscles are looking full all day .
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have fun with that lol i just did that before

let me say, if you good grind up motrin and smoke it, i would lol
 
Hottest guy on AM!
 
In bro!
 
Hey I've been meaning to ask are you more of a hard gainer or more on an endomorph?
 
Joedoubledose said:
Thanks man my main goal is to one day be 210-220 10% or lower
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That's going to take some time. I don't think I've ever been 220 and 10%, I might get there this run though. Then I'm not very aggressive with anabolics so I really don't know how much that kind of cycling would have helped me. I think if my discipline had been more on point in the off season's over the years I may have already reached that goal. Seems a slow recomp will have you holding the most muscle.
 
Joedoubledose said:
Hard gainer , ectomorph forsure , it took me really pounding away food to get the weight I'm at now , used to be 145 all of highschool Invalid Link Removed
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You came a long way, great job!
 
DreamWeaver said:
That's going to take some time. I don't think I've ever been 220 and 10%, I might get there this run though. Then I'm not very aggressive with anabolics so I really don't know how much that kind of cycling would have helped me. I think if my discipline had been more on point in the off season's over the years I may have already reached that goal. Seems a slow recomp will have you holding the most muscle.
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Oh deff not some over night dream of mine , And you still have time !
 
Day 35 of my cycle , gonna rest today an start the weekend off with back and bis tomorrow . Everyone enjoy their weekend and happy friday
 
Joedoubledose said:
Oh deff not some over night dream of mine , And you still have time !
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Oh yah and I've been close a few times I think. I have a shot with this run too. If things keep going the way they are I should be posting some pics that will show me making the 220 10% goal. You never know though, so many variables. I'll just do the best I can.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Oh yah and I've been close a few times I think. I have a shot with this run too. If things keep going the way they are I should be posting some pics that will show me making the 220 10% goal. You never know though, so many variables. I'll just do the best I can.
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Do you dream ! You have nothing to prove the shape your in man!
 
Went to the springs yesterday with some friends and got some sun , plenty of head turning from the ladies so I would say it was a good time ! Met some new people and have been feeling awesome . The extra epiandro mainly seems to be giving me a stimulant feeling, as if my nervous system is more responsive or more receptive .
 
Joedoubledose said:
Do you dream ! You have nothing to prove the shape your in man!
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Thanks, dying to get back into the kind of shape I was then but now I am much bigger so have to see what that looks like cut up cuz I know I've made some big improvements. I have put some monumental workouts in lately too. I mean I really am in the zone. Did 6/8/12/6/8/12 deads the other day with 40 seconds rest and set the bar really high 285 for 40 seconds rest is fuggin brutal with eccentric movement. I have to say if I would have felt like I did at 8 reps the way I did at 10 I would have given up on the last set but cuz I only had 2 to go I pulled the fuggers! I am sure they heard me on the other side of the city. I was so fuggin trashed. It was cool. A really great moment for an old fugger like me.
 
Dream, expand on that Deadlift workout a little more, if you would. You can PM me if you don't want to derail Joe's thread.
 
machwon04 said:
Dream, expand on that Deadlift workout a little more, if you would. You can PM me if you don't want to derail Joe's thread.
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It's done on a tricep back day after I trash my triceps. 6 8 12 6 8 12 with 40 seconds rest (not even enough to catch your breath) temp is 4010, not too ambitions with the weight at first. I am a veteran with these types of routines so 285 is extremely adventurous. There is one I do 7 14 21 7 14 21 now that if fuggin brutal too.
 
Joedoubledose said:
Jeeze
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Yah sometimes you have to do some really nasty shyte if you're an old fugger and want gains. I love the battle though. The feeling of finishing something like this is indescribable, sometimes it just kicks your ass but there is never any shame when you give it your best.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Yah sometimes you have to do some really nasty shyte if you're an old fugger and want gains. I love the battle though. The feeling of finishing something like this is indescribable, sometimes it just kicks your ass but there is never any shame when you give it your best.
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You're still kicking ass man so keep it up !
 
DreamWeaver said:
It's done on a tricep back day after I trash my triceps. 6 8 12 6 8 12 with 40 seconds rest (not even enough to catch your breath) temp is 4010, not too ambitions with the weight at first. I am a veteran with these types of routines so 285 is extremely adventurous. There is one I do 7 14 21 7 14 21 now that if fuggin brutal too.
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So let me get this straight. Using the same weight the whole way through, you do 6 reps, then 8, then 12 etc ... with 40 seconds of rest between each of those sets, and a tempo that takes 4 seconds on the lift and a second to set it back down, throughout every rep/set? That does sound brutal. And I've always seen the recommendation to avoid TUT on things like deadlifts and squats (unless you're pausing at the bottom of the squat).
 
machwon04 said:
So let me get this straight. Using the same weight the whole way through, you do 6 reps, then 8, then 12 etc ... with 40 seconds of rest between each of those sets, and a tempo that takes 4 seconds on the lift and a second to set it back down, throughout every rep/set? That does sound brutal. And I've always seen the recommendation to avoid TUT on things like deadlifts and squats (unless you're pausing at the bottom of the squat).
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Oh boy that MI40 2 stuff. Doug is gonna have you all limping. I remember going through these when I first bought it.

Tempo is just another adjustment and depending on the reason for the adjustment they are all okay. Typically the squat, and deadlift are performed as a movement and done so for strength & athletic carryover. When doing so you want to train your muscle to be explosive and move as fast as possible in order to move the most weight. Training yourself to move slower and less explosively will have an effect on your ability to be explosive, and your CNS will need retrained to be more efficient at high speed movement. So if strength in either of them is the main goal then speed needs to be involved with the movements to get the most out of them.

However if you are simply changing the tempo of a lift to increase time under tension with the intent of hypertrophy then there is nothing wrong with doing slower reps on any movement. I would still lift them explosively and then lower slowly if going this route. Then again there is also something to be said for the training stimulus of lifting slow and controlled and the different metabolic reactions TUT can have depending on what portion of the lift is emphasized.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Oh boy that MI40 2 stuff. Doug is gonna have you all limping. I remember going through these when I first bought it.

Tempo is just another adjustment and depending on the reason for the adjustment they are all okay. Typically the squat, and deadlift are performed as a movement and done so for strength & athletic carryover. When doing so you want to train your muscle to be explosive and move as fast as possible in order to move the most weight. Training yourself to move slower and less explosively will have an effect on your ability to be explosive, and your CNS will need retrained to be more efficient at high speed movement. So if strength in either of them is the main goal then speed needs to be involved with the movements to get the most out of them.

However if you are simply changing the tempo of a lift to increase time under tension with the intent of hypertrophy then there is nothing wrong with doing slower reps on any movement. I would still lift them explosively and then lower slowly if going this route. Then again there is also something to be said for the training stimulus of lifting slow and controlled and the different metabolic reactions TUT can have depending on what portion of the lift is emphasized.
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Yes and changing the tempo will help with the performance of the lift as far as technique is concerned. For instance when repping deads I find many will not get back into the original starting position because of their haste to move the weight. Slowing it down helps you set up properly for an explosive concentric. That's another point slow eccentric but explosive concentric means added strength. When training maximum range of motion you get stronger in the extreme range of the motion. Once I got used to this slower tempo most of my lifts returned close to what they were before but with more range and more strength. I may be stronger now than I have ever been. Remember there is a difference between power and strength.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Yes and changing the tempo will help with the performance of the lift as far as technique is concerned. For instance when repping deads I find many will not get back into the original starting position because of their haste to move the weight. Slowing it down helps you set up properly for an explosive concentric. That's another point slow eccentric but explosive concentric means added strength. When training maximum range of motion you get stronger in the extreme range of the motion. Once I got used to this slower tempo most of my lifts returned close to what they were before but with more range and more strength. I may be stronger now than I have ever been. Remember there is a difference between power and strength.
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True on the technique it is like for golf when they have you go through the perfect swing over and over in slow motion then have you speed it up gradually. By the time you are up to speed you are already trained in the pattern of movement and have a pretty decent swing.
 
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