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Tongkat Ali LJ100

YoungBodyBuil said:
I actually got blood work 5 days ago, 1 day prior to supplementation and not intentionally either I just got every 3 weeks for it.

Testosterone free and total-
Total t- 998
Free t-21.1


Pregnelone-73


Dhea- 81

Thyroxine(t4)- 1.29

DHEA-sulfate- 350.4

AM Cortisol-11.2

Estradiol- 21.5

Prostate specific ag serum- 2.1

Triiodothyronine- 4.1

SHGB 26.5


Background stats-
Early 20s
177-183
5'9
12% BF
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I wouldnt be suprized if TA dont do anything for your T levels. They are almost at max levels :)
 
Cjg said:
2.4 grams?? Of which brand?
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Sumatra pasak bumi. GUYS this is not my first run of TKA im only going this high as i know my bodys responses to it as if cycle on and off of TKA for about 2 years but this is my first time using Sumatra 600mg 200:1 extract, all i can say is this. The libido is DISGUSTING. I cant get my mind off of sex 24/7 actually scary, and my girls on her time so its torture. My skin has gotten insanely oil so i started carrying face wipes with me everyday to work. The pumps were insane first 2-3 days today wasnt as solid but ill chalk that up to staying up watching my shows all night. The sleep when i do decide to sleep is AMAZING and very deep. Overall great experiences so far!
 
The_Old_Guy said:
My post was more about the "guys" use of AI's in PCT, hence my "chopped" quote of "lots of guys..." As for all the rest, I don't think I'll clog up the TA discussion, with my thoughts on respect and comprehension. Peace.
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That's how i saw it but was waiting for you to chime in so i didnt sound stupid were i wrong. Reps for not wanting to hijack a thread.
 
Danes said:
I wouldnt be suprized if TA dont do anything for your T levels. They are almost at max levels :)
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I was thinking that too....but, I don't see too many people at 990-1000 (the top of most labs' physiological natural range).

So I'm thinking it may have pushed him to the very top of his natural potential.
 
kboxer7 said:
I was thinking that too....but, I don't see too many people at 990-1000 (the top of most labs' physiological natural range).

So I'm thinking it may have pushed him to the very top of his natural potential.
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This is very possible as I've 2 months on and 2 months of cycles for 2 years with the 5-2 dosing method. I just finished a pct with torem 120/120/80/40 and TKA about 2 weeks ago so that blood draw was post cycle too
 
How come most lj100 cause stomach issues? And olympus labs lj100 doesn't? I've heard a few people say they took
Lj100 in the past from other brands with major stomach issues... But none at all with olympus labs lj100... Just curious
 
Cjg said:
How come most lj100 cause stomach issues? And olympus labs lj100 doesn't? I've heard a few people say they took
Lj100 in the past from other brands with major stomach issues... But none at all with olympus labs lj100... Just curious
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Never in my life heard LJ100 gives stomach issues. Even me who is sensitive , I had no issue at all with LJ100.:)
I actually asked Dr.Tambi about stomach issues and he said no one of his patients reported anything about stomach issues.
 
2.4 grams and no stomach problems, I mean I've been dropping some mean toilet bombs lately, however nothing in terms of discomfort. Hell I like the bowel movements, practically instant weight loss.
 
YoungBodyBuil said:
Sumatra pasak bumi. GUYS this is not my first run of TKA im only going this high as i know my bodys responses to it as if cycle on and off of TKA for about 2 years but this is my first time using Sumatra 600mg 200:1 extract, all i can say is this. The libido is DISGUSTING. I cant get my mind off of sex 24/7 actually scary, and my girls on her time so its torture. My skin has gotten insanely oil so i started carrying face wipes with me everyday to work. The pumps were insane first 2-3 days today wasnt as solid but ill chalk that up to staying up watching my shows all night. The sleep when i do decide to sleep is AMAZING and very deep. Overall great experiences so far!
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Your test levels are quite high. Are you taking anything for it? (If I read your post correctly your >900 levels were pre-TA).
 
Justlooking5 said:
Your test levels are quite high. Are you taking anything for it? (If I read your post correctly your >900 levels were pre-TA).
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I take many natty t boosters if that's what you mean, I just dipped my feet into SARMs but that's it never injected or done a PH. I can say that that blood draw was after a sarm cycle where my PCT was TKA 200:1 Rhaponticum Carthamoides at about 4 grams and toremifene citrate at 120/120/80/40 or 120/80/80/40 forgot what my second weeks dosing was
 
YoungBodyBuil said:
I take many natty t boosters if that's what you mean, I just dipped my feet into SARMs but that's it never injected or done a PH. I can say that that blood draw was after a sarm cycle where my PCT was TKA 200:1 Rhaponticum Carthamoides at about 4 grams and toremifene citrate at 120/120/80/40 or 120/80/80/40 forgot what my second weeks dosing was
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Oh I see... so what were you taking when your test was done with levels at 900 if you don't mind my asking?
 
I was taking Rhaponticum Carthamoides, Sumatra Pasak Bumi 200:1 extract, test1fy pro by Olympus labs and had just finished off my torem, I'm also early 20s so that's why my baseline is up there
 
Danes said:
Thats right :)
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Yep. That bloodwork was irrelevant for determining the effect of LJ alone at that dose.
Danes, did you ever get bloodwork while on a high dose of LJ100?
 
Danes said:
Didnt but i will try again :)
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Are you gonna try it with preg this time? I think it would really help you based off of your sides. As it seems that they were either due to low preg or low cortisol; and either way adding preg would help.
 
Started my LJ100 cycle today and looking forward to the effects (if they come), thank to Danes for answering all my questions. Hopefully it LJ100 will work on a 40 year old with under-average testosterone.
 
HITFrank said:
Started my LJ100 cycle today and looking forward to the effects (if they come), thank to Danes for answering all my questions. Hopefully it LJ100 will work on a 40 year old with under-average testosterone.
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I can even bet it will give you nice libido and much more :)
 
rtmilburn said:
Are you gonna try it with preg this time? I think it would really help you based off of your sides. As it seems that they were either due to low preg or low cortisol; and either way adding preg would help.
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When I tried high LJ100 dose, i was running KSM66 750mg daily. Like you said, it may be due to low Cortisol or preg. So I will try with preg this time :)
 
Danes said:
When I tried high LJ100 dose, i was running KSM66 750mg daily. Like you said, it may be due to low Cortisol or preg. So I will try with preg this time :)
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Ok sweet I'm excited to see what that would do for you. As I'm yo poor to try myself. Also if I'm correct preg can turn into cortisol cant it?
 
rtmilburn said:
Ok sweet I'm excited to see what that would do for you. As I'm yo poor to try myself. Also if I'm correct preg can turn into cortisol cant it?
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As I know both (cortisol and preg)compete for common receptors and if you want more preg you need to decrease Cortisol
 
Danes said:
As I know both (cortisol and preg)compete for common receptors and if you want more preg you need to decrease Cortisol
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I just did a little bit of research and it does look like preg can turn into to cortisol. It must convert to progesterone or 17hydropregnenolone first, then to 17hydroxypregnenolone, then 11deoxycortisol, and finally cortisol(not actually final conversion). Although, it does look like the cortisol levels to play a role in controling preg level; through quite a few different pathways.
 

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rtmilburn said:
I just did a little bit of research and it does look like preg can turn into to cortisol. It must convert to progesterone or 17hydropregnenolone first, then to 17hydroxypregnenolone, then 11deoxycortisol, and finally cortisol(not actually final conversion). Although, it does look like the cortisol levels to play a role in controling preg level; through quite a few different pathways.
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I wouldnt be concerned for that to be honest :)
 
Danes said:
I wouldnt be concerned for that to be honest :)
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I actually wasn't saying it was a concern, but after re-reading my post, i can understand why you would think that. I actually stating that in your particular case that might be a good thing(and in most cases a preg supp would be), but more than anything i was just showing the pregnenolone does convert to cortisol. It is a very complex equation though. It would be nearly impossible to figure out how much of supplemented pregnenolone could turn into cortisol, or even how much your pregnenolone levels would increase. It does seem as though transdermal pregnenolone would be more likely to increase levels of both cortisol and pregnenolone; more so than any other method. This would due to the enzymes in the skin pushes it more this. Whereas oral administration seem to lead push more towards dhea. Im not to sure on sublingual though. I have never been any good at that.
 
rtmilburn said:
I actually wasn't saying it was a concern, but after re-reading my post, i can understand why you would think that. I actually stating that in your particular case that might be a good thing(and in most cases a preg supp would be), but more than anything i was just showing the pregnenolone does convert to cortisol. It is a very complex equation though. It would be nearly impossible to figure out how much of supplemented pregnenolone could turn into cortisol, or even how much your pregnenolone levels would increase. It does seem as though transdermal pregnenolone would be more likely to increase levels of both cortisol and pregnenolone; more so than any other method. This would due to the enzymes in the skin pushes it more this. Whereas oral administration seem to lead push more towards dhea. Im not to sure on sublingual though. I have never been any good at that.
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I will try preg. Any good TD preg?
 
Anybody here have any experience with bulksupplements.com. Plan on running lj100 indefinitely so figured I would buy in bulk.
 
Danes said:
I will try preg. Any good TD preg?
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To be honest I don't know of any good pre-made transdermal preg. There is dermacrine, but that is more of an overall product and the preg dose is really low.

Maybe some else knows of a good one?

If you can source raws(from your other posts it sounds like you can) i would get preg, dhea, vit D3, trans-resveratrol, iosol iodine(make sure its not potassium iodine), and if possible mixed tocols aka mixed vitamin E(especially tocotrienols but this will be a b!tch to source) and make a transdermal product with them.

Although all that is not needed. It would also make it hard to tell if LJ100 is what is really doing the trick. So if you are wanting to just test out LJ100, for blood work, but want to get rid of this nasty sides you had; I would just make a transdermal solution with 100-150mgs of pregnenolone, 100-150mgs of dhea (anymore you risk suppression), and 5,000IU vitamin D3. Also i would make sure to take that in the morning(or any preg product). As all of those ingredients can cuase insomnia when taken to late. If are like me and don't know how to properly make a transdermal solution yourself, use a product like Salvo to help.

Also that post might be really confusing some. So if you thinks its confusing at all let me know and i will elaborate and try toake it less confusing.
 
Danes said:
Found one pretty expencive having Micronized Lipid Matrix delivery
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Oral? Being oral doesn't mean it's bad, but i just think TD is better in every way IMHO.

On a side note. I wish I had access to raws(if anyone knows a legit source, of pure enough raws to make TDs, without having to filter it, please PM). If I did I would definitely be taking all of stack. I would also be taking a decent dose of vitamin K and botanical craft for my source of mixed tocols(if i couldn't find the raws). I actually really like botanical craft i just wish there was a TD version of it. Also the reason for the vitamin K is the high doses of Vitamin D can lower vitamin K levels, and most Americans already have low levels of vitamin K.
 
AlivEL 3x100 finally arrived! :bow28: Here's the spec:

22 % glycol protein
>3 % eurycomanone

Hope it's not only "market" numbers, looks very promising!!
 
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