Natty stack

[Trey_rob]

So I've been thinking about how I wanted to run these supps for some time now... I have 2 bottles of each: Abe, ara, anafuse, epi 2.0, and viron.. A bridged run is the best idea I came up with.
5 weeks abe
3 weeks abe + ara
2 weeks ara
3 weeks ara + anafuse
5 weeks anafuse
8 weeks epi 2.0
1 Viron per day, 5 days on 2 days off for as long as it lasts.
Have dailies - multi, whey isolate, joint support.
6'4, 227 lbs, 12% bf (tested January 8th)
I lift 5 days a week, never used aas, ph's, or sarms. 315 bench 1rm, 5x4 345 squat, 455x3 deadlift.
Looking to put on some muscle size and gain some weight.
Everyone's input is greatly appreciated!

 

[BigKrabbe]

You have a great base and strength for someone who has never used an PEDs! Props to you sir. I love Anabeta as well as AA so in my opinion both of those will be excellent to keep in rotation. Honestly though instead of anafuse I'd rotate in phosphatidic acid in some form. Olympus labs has triumph out now, or you can just go with lecithin granules. If you have the money to spend I think you would get amazing gains from something like:
AB 4 weeks
AB + AA 4 weeks
AA + PA 4 weeks
PA + Epicatechin for 4 weeks

 

[Trey_rob]

Haha thank you much.. PA? Is that's something that needs cycled, or something that can be taken for a long time? Honestly, I don't know anything about it.. Also, you think it would benefit more to make the bridges 4 weeks together? Thanks again for your input!

 

[jathan_howe]

Haha thank you much.. PA? Is that's something that needs cycled, or something that can be taken for a long time? Honestly, I don't know anything about it.. Also, you think it would benefit more to make the bridges 4 weeks together? Thanks again for your input!

You don't need to cycle PA. Bridging seems like a good idea to draw out the length of the stack, thus prolonging the results

 

[warbird01]

Looks good man. ArA + ABE is a great stack!

 

[mw1]

What is Abe and ara?

Xgels by SNS and Anabeta Elite by PES

 

[Mkgain1]

Someone recommended anabolic designs- bulldoze. Know anything about that?

Anabolic designs is gtg, they use high quality raws and are all about high quality control in production. I used/use a couple of their products and all of them have been great. Bulldoze is decent, its not gonna knock you out cold but it does what it's intended to do for sure

 

[John17548]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Letrone or Viron in any of these natty stack threads. I have read a decent amount of positive reviews from BLR products...

 

[LeanEngineer]

Looks good man. ArA + ABE is a great stack!

Probably one of my favorite actually. Currently running ABE and just picked up some x gels so i'll be adding that into my stack soon.

 

[warbird01]

Probably one of my favorite actually. Currently running ABE and just picked up some x gels so i'll be adding that into my stack soon.

Hell yeah!

 

[Synapsin]

Probably one of my favorite actually. Currently running ABE and just picked up some x gels so i'll be adding that into my stack soon.

Perfect. Don't forget the lodhra in ABE amplifies the effects of ArA due to it being a lipoxygenase inhibitor.

 

[cheftepesh1]

Abe and Ara make a great combo. Also using pa to bridge is a good idea. You can choose to use through the whole cycle if you like.

 

[LiveToLift]

Probably one of my favorite actually. Currently running ABE and just picked up some x gels so i'll be adding that into my stack soon.

Smart move. Have you previously ran the duo before? Would love to hear your thoughts on the stack.

 

[bigsmall]

ARA causes inflammation and Epicatechin reduces it. It is not recommended (Brundel of BLR and my personal testing a long while back) to run them together. And Folidrone 2.0 is by far the best Epicatechin product (leaps and bounds ahead of any other Epicatechin product out their).

Folidrone 2.0 plus PA or ARA plus PA. Folidrone 2.0 and PA can be run year around through bulk, recomp and cut (although its incredibly hard to lose scale weight on Folidrone 2.0. Add Letrone for 2 months than take a month off. Its one amazing and powerful supplement.

btw MN Xfactor 2 x 100 count plus 1 Test Factor is currently on sale at nutri verse for 79$.