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SARM's, MK, & GW : A User's Guide

For my next cycle I plan on running derm and legend for the first 6 weeks then adding in stano and triump (old triump) or dimethadrol for another 6 weeks, not sure which one I want to run first
 
YouBet33 said:
For my next cycle I plan on running derm and legend for the first 6 weeks then adding in stano and triump (old triump) or dimethadrol for another 6 weeks, not sure which one I want to run first
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D1m is freaking awesome, I would have to run it first.
 
YouBet33 said:
What results can one expect
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I recomped like crazy but that's what all ph/ds do to me. Nice dry lean gains like epi or triumph but with more of a kick!
 
I wanted to get dimethadrol so bad. Had one in my cart and they sold out literally the day before i got my paycheck
 
BamBam0319 said:
I wanted to get dimethadrol so bad. Had one in my cart and they sold out literally the day before i got my paycheck
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I found one post ban, wanted to pick up a second so I could run it a lil higher but can't find it anywhere anymore
 
I'm with Jmyers. Ridic stock of orals and all I do now is pin ahaha.

D1methadrol + D-Drol for flexivle dosing
St3nadrol
St3nabol
Nanodrol
OL epi
LGI epi
OL halo
LGI halo
OL tr3n
OL tr3st
LGI stano
OL tr1umph
LGI triumph

Prob some more I'm forgetting lol
 
AustBenny said:
I'm with Jmyers. Ridic stock of orals and all I do now is pin ahaha.

D1methadrol + D-Drol for flexivle dosing
St3nadrol
St3nabol
Nanodrol
OL epi
LGI epi
OL halo
LGI halo
OL tr3n
OL tr3st
LGI stano
OL tr1umph
LGI triumph

Prob some more I'm forgetting lol
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Can you pm me?:)
 
AustBenny said:
I'm with Jmyers. Ridic stock of orals and all I do now is pin ahaha.

D1methadrol + D-Drol for flexivle dosing
St3nadrol
St3nabol
Nanodrol
OL epi
LGI epi
OL halo
LGI halo
OL tr3n
OL tr3st
LGI stano
OL tr1umph
LGI triumph

Prob some more I'm forgetting lol
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Oooh, you got the goods right there my friend! Oz customs got nuthin on you! :tongue2:

I might keep you in mind...PM coming.
 
If anyone is desperate for LGD, card, rad, mk or osta feel free to PM me. Know that the cost of post from OZ to the US is ridiculous though.
Got a few spare GPL epi & sdrol too.
 
AustBenny said:
I'm with Jmyers. Ridic stock of orals and all I do now is pin ahaha.

D1methadrol + D-Drol for flexivle dosing
St3nadrol
St3nabol
Nanodrol
OL epi
LGI epi
OL halo
LGI halo
OL tr3n
OL tr3st
LGI stano
OL tr1umph
LGI triumph

Prob some more I'm forgetting lol
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Holy ****.
 
Hey guys will clear PMs when I get a chance. Chillin with my pops. If I can't help u myself I will point u in the right direction.
 
AustBenny said:
Hey guys will clear PMs when I get a chance. Chillin with my pops. If I can't help u myself I will point u in the right direction.
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No rush mate :sombrero:
 
If anyone wants to buy/trade/sell supplements this is the place to do it
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I would appreciate it if we could keep this as an information thread. Nothing personal, just don't want this thread to get locked. Thank you.
 
yates84 said:
If anyone wants to buy/trade/sell supplements this is the place to do it
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I would appreciate it if we could keep this as an information thread. Nothing personal, just don't want this thread to get locked. Thank you.
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Gotcha.
 
We can say my post was informative in the sense that the English have more to offer than cups of tea, crappy pop bands and slutty women.
 
Yates, why are we talking about estrogen sides with lgd and osta? They shouldn't have any estrogen sides because they're selective (ie gyno should not happen so estro control shouldn't be needed) and shutdown shouldn't happen either with lgd or osta solo. It suppresses test but not LH based on some bloods results I saw on reddit. I experienced serious lethargy and weak boners / smaller nuts on OL UK lgd 8mg/day for 3 weeks and came off of it into a pct. Since they're being pulled I just want to make sure these sarms are legit and that I'm not taking unnecessary risks running no AI or liver care and a mini pct. If I should be running more ancillaries here I'd like to know about it. Seems like lots of people are running 8 weeks of lgd at 5 or 10mg with no pct, no nothing on cycle and are seeing nothing but keepable gains with no sides. I see the OL UK purity analysis but it doesn't really mean anything to me, I'm no analyst. I'm not making any allegations here I'm just verifying the legitimacy of what I have before I put it back into my body.
 
dronkey said:
Yates, why are we talking about estrogen sides with lgd and osta? They shouldn't have any estrogen sides because they're selective (ie gyno should not happen so estro control shouldn't be needed) and shutdown shouldn't happen either with lgd or osta solo. It suppresses test but not LH based on some bloods results I saw on reddit. I experienced serious lethargy and weak boners / smaller nuts on OL UK lgd 8mg/day for 3 weeks and came off of it into a pct. Since they're being pulled I just want to make sure these sarms are legit and that I'm not taking unnecessary risks running no AI or liver care and a mini pct. If I should be running more ancillaries here I'd like to know about it. Seems like lots of people are running 8 weeks of lgd at 5 or 10mg with no pct, no nothing on cycle and are seeing nothing but keepable gains with no sides. I see the OL UK purity analysis but it doesn't really mean anything to me, I'm no analyst. I'm not making any allegations here I'm just verifying the legitimacy of what I have before I put it back into my body.
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Ok first off, anything that occupies the androgen receptor has the possibility of indirectly raising estrogen levels. It does not matter if the compound aromatizes or not. Just because other people are running this with no pct doesn't mean it's correct. If you're smart and care about your body then you should run a proper pct. If you don't care about you self then....

OL is as legit as it comes. Don't take my word, ask any member on here that has ever used any Olympus labs products. Our reviews speak for themselves.
 
dronkey said:
Thanks for the quick reply and reassurance. I know that I only bought OL products for a reason.
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You definitely made a good decision bro. I need to take a pic of my stash, it's 95% OL
 
dronkey said:
Thanks for the quick reply and reassurance. I know that I only bought OL products for a reason.
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Personal choice my friend. Some people are less concerned with the recovery time post SARM cycle - I have friends that don't bother with pct after Osta or even lgd, they just wait for their hormones to level out on their own. I'm not saying that's preferable, simply that it's done. Others are bonkers for on cycle support & the best OTC pct they can get. $$ can be a factor too.

yates84 knows his stuff, he is a wealth of knowledge on AM & I have the utmost respect for him, but I will contend with " If you're smart and care about your body then you should run a proper pct. If you don't care about you self then...."
...purely on the basis of "proper pct". If alluding to stronger pharma type pcts rather than OTC products, well...I care about my body & for that reason I do NOT take pharma type pcts. That is my prerogative & in no way an indictment on anybody else's choices. I simply have a preference for less chems & more natty ingredients where possible & effective.
 
dronkey said:
Thanks for the quick reply and reassurance. I know that I only bought OL products for a reason.
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Oh and there's a reason OL stuff is so popular in the marketplace & here on AM :thumbsup:
 
yates84 said:
You definitely made a good decision bro. I need to take a pic of my stash, it's 95% OL
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Can you do that? I think we're all keen to see what this Aladdin's Cave of supplement treasures looks like! :bigeyes:
 
cheeky1 said:
Can you do that? I think we're all keen to see what this Aladdin's Cave of supplement treasures looks like! :bigeyes:
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Lol will do that when I get home on Tuesday, out of town atm for the holidays.
 
I scrolled through a bunch of pages, but didn't see anything related to expected gains from LGD-4033.

Obviously everyone is different, but can one reasonably expect 10-12 pounds in a 6 week cycle or is that too much?
 
Foed20 said:
I scrolled through a bunch of pages, but didn't see anything related to expected gains from LGD-4033.

Obviously everyone is different, but can one reasonably expect 10-12 pounds in a 6 week cycle or is that too much?
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There are too many factors to give you a specific-to-you answer but yes, it is possible; Diet, training, muscle/weight memory, and personal response to the particular compound are all factors to consider.

I am appx. 30 days into an OL LGD (8/8/8/12/12) and MK-677 (10mg ED) cycle and I have put on 10lbs and I am leaner as well. I was using MK-677 for a while prior. I am not eating to bulk. Increased glycogen retention is in full swing for me right now.

I should note that I have been using 1-2 grams per day of BAIBA during this time as well.
 
Toren said:
There are too many factors to give you a specific-to-you answer but yes, it is possible; Diet, training, muscle/weight memory, and personal response to the particular compound are all factors to consider.

I am appx. 30 days into an OL LGD (8/8/8/12/12) and MK-677 (10mg ED) cycle and I have put on 10lbs and I am leaner as well. I was using MK-677 for a while prior. I am not eating to bulk. Increased glycogen retention is in full swing for me right now.

I should note that I have been using 1-2 grams per day of BAIBA during this time as well.
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What's your opinion of baiba so far? Have been very curious about it. I assume you are using antaeus labs bulk baiba?
 
yates84 said:
What's your opinion of baiba so far? Have been very curious about it. I assume you are using antaeus labs bulk baiba?
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Yes, AL BAIBA.

Honestly, I did not notice much of anything at first. It did not affect my appetite in any negative way. I also did not notice any increase in body core temperature. I started at 0.5 grams per day right out of the box and then quickly moved to 1g ED (am/pm split dosing) and I have recently moved to 1.5g ED and even 2g for a few of those days. I believe I will stick to 1.5-2g for a few weeks and see where I am at. I am hoping to add some more quality poundage on the second leg of this cycle without any fat gain. I have always been able to do this on cycle so this should only add to that.

I think now that I am at the end of my first tub, it is starting to show some promise. I don't think people should expect miracles from this compound, and I believe it would work better when stacked with a true thermogenic-type fat burner. I notice no increase in body temperature even when taking 1.5g at one sitting. I have 2 more tubs so we will see how things progress over the next few weeks.

I have leaned out in the midsection a bit quicker than I might have otherwise but I can't say that it is drastic at all. The results do not come over night with this stuff, at least not for me. I am pretty lean year 'round so maybe my body naturally produces more BAIBA as it is; It's hard to say. If people want more of a quick and dramatic weight drop, the typical ECY stack would produce faster results.

I will try and update the results in a few weeks. I'm sure I'll mention it in some thread somewhere and I will remember to tag you.
 
Toren said:
Yes, AL BAIBA.

Honestly, I did not notice much of anything at first. It did not affect my appetite in any negative way. I also did not notice any increase in body core temperature. I started at 0.5 grams per day right out of the box and then quickly moved to 1g ED (am/pm split dosing) and I have recently moved to 1.5g ED and even 2g for a few of those days. I believe I will stick to 1.5-2g for a few weeks and see where I am at. I am hoping to add some more quality poundage on the second leg of this cycle without any fat gain. I have always been able to do this on cycle so this should only add to that.

I think now that I am at the end of my first tub, it is starting to show some promise. I don't think people should expect miracles from this compound, and I believe it would work better when stacked with a true thermogenic-type fat burner. I notice no increase in body temperature even when taking 1.5g at one sitting. I have 2 more tubs so we will see how things progress over the next few weeks.

I have leaned out in the midsection a bit quicker than I might have otherwise but I can't say that it is drastic at all. The results do not come over night with this stuff, at least not for me. I am pretty lean year 'round so maybe my body naturally produces more BAIBA as it is; It's hard to say. If people want more of a quick and dramatic weight drop, the typical ECY stack would produce faster results.

I will try and update the results in a few weeks. I'm sure I'll mention it in some thread somewhere and I will remember to tag you.
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You're the man, wish I could rep you 10 more times!
 
Bigdumogre said:
Anyone have a sleeping problem on osta? Can't sleep more than 4 hrs a night
I use zma with melatonin pre bed already
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When are you taking Osta, I've never had an issue. Through in some MK-677 just before bed, sleep like a baby. Personally 5 hrs sleep is my sweet spot more or less im a lil grogy.
 
I take my osta upon waking up since I train morning fasted
Melatonin is 5mg

I also tried TSN sleep - melatonin 5mg + gaba in chewables
 
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