KLEEN gets Lean w/ GHAR1NE & RADAR1NE!!! (Olympus Labs UK Sponsored)
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jbryand101b
Banned
Killing it
MrKleen73
Legend
Yeah it was ridiculous.
Thanks!
Tonight I went to the park and did a circuit. I alternated between some push ups, chin ups, inverted rows, dips, ball slams, squat to push press medicine ball throws. It was a good workout, I really enjoyed it.
warpyfunch
Member
late on this, but i've been away and just catching up...
for what it's worth, i had some acid reflux going on while at the beginning of my ghar1ne run. lasted about 2 weeks, and got by on selective use of zantac and tums. eventually it all subsided. at the time i attributed it to ghar1ne being a ghrelin mimetic, causing the stomach to secrete more acid.
jbryand101b
Banned
Was noticing my heartburn flaring up in the last couple days, thought it was just me.
Interesting you're noticing it as well.
Interesting you're noticing it as well.
warpyfunch
Member
at the time, i was simultaneously starting ghar1ne and cardar1ne. for some reason i initially blamed the cardar1ne, but later on changed my mind to the ghar1ne. i still don't really know for sure if that was the true cause, but it was an everyday thing for about 2 weeks and then went away on its own.
MrKleen73
Legend
Interesting.
Seems to be a pattern.
No I think you could be on to something here. I mean 3 of us experiencing it, sounds like a pattern.
MrKleen73
Legend
I just finished this beast of a workout!!!!
Burgener Warmup
1 x 6:00 minutes
2)
Power Snatch - 95x2, 135x2, 135x2,135x1, 135x1, 135x1 - I think I finally got a pretty good one the last rep. These are no joke!
Squat Jump - 6 x 3
3)
Barbell Floor Press - 135x5, 225x4, 245x3, 275x2, 320x1 =5 lbs PR!!!!!!
Burpees - 5,4,3,2,1
4)
Run 1 Mile 12:48 seconds... OUCH!
5)
Mobility Cool Down
1 x 7:00
My cardio is a glaring weakness! You would think with a 54bpm RHR, and 117/74 my cardio might be okay but nope! Partially due to high hematocrit levels, so hopefully I will see more improvement once corrected. Been waiting for my doctor to get the orders to the blood bank for my phlebotomy.... High hematocrit is like the equivalent of training in a mask or at high altitude when not used to it. So many red blood cells that there is not much room for oxygen.
Anyway, "I went for broke" on the run as coach said. I took off way faster than I typically would for a mile. He said give all you got high intensity the whole way. At that intensity I wore out so quickly, and the periods I could run after that became ridiculously short. I never walked for more than 10 seconds at a time and often 3-5 seconds, but the running periods were close to the same by the end. Call it a mile of HIIT!!!! This was pretty telling and an exercise in humility. However it just means I know where the most work needs to be done. It was hot out too, not crazy hot, but for the first mile I have run recently doing it in 91 degrees was not well planned. My time ended up being 12.48.7 the path is about 1 & 1/10th of a mile.
The 320 on Floor Press is a new PR and I feel I may have been able to get 325 if I had just gone for it first. I didn't make a second attempt at a single this time.
Burgener Warmup
1 x 6:00 minutes
2)
Power Snatch - 95x2, 135x2, 135x2,135x1, 135x1, 135x1 - I think I finally got a pretty good one the last rep. These are no joke!
Squat Jump - 6 x 3
3)
Barbell Floor Press - 135x5, 225x4, 245x3, 275x2, 320x1 =5 lbs PR!!!!!!
Burpees - 5,4,3,2,1
4)
Run 1 Mile 12:48 seconds... OUCH!
5)
Mobility Cool Down
1 x 7:00
My cardio is a glaring weakness! You would think with a 54bpm RHR, and 117/74 my cardio might be okay but nope! Partially due to high hematocrit levels, so hopefully I will see more improvement once corrected. Been waiting for my doctor to get the orders to the blood bank for my phlebotomy.... High hematocrit is like the equivalent of training in a mask or at high altitude when not used to it. So many red blood cells that there is not much room for oxygen.
Anyway, "I went for broke" on the run as coach said. I took off way faster than I typically would for a mile. He said give all you got high intensity the whole way. At that intensity I wore out so quickly, and the periods I could run after that became ridiculously short. I never walked for more than 10 seconds at a time and often 3-5 seconds, but the running periods were close to the same by the end. Call it a mile of HIIT!!!! This was pretty telling and an exercise in humility. However it just means I know where the most work needs to be done. It was hot out too, not crazy hot, but for the first mile I have run recently doing it in 91 degrees was not well planned. My time ended up being 12.48.7 the path is about 1 & 1/10th of a mile.
The 320 on Floor Press is a new PR and I feel I may have been able to get 325 if I had just gone for it first. I didn't make a second attempt at a single this time.
MrKleen73
Legend
Feeling pretty good this morning, everything feels worked from yesterday, but not crushed. Going to be working on that mile time at least twice a week for a little bit. Called the doc again this morning to pressure them to resend the form since the Blood Bank says they haven't received it yet. My hematocrit was 53 a month ago... not sure if this SARM increases it or not but 53 is already pretty damn high!!!! Makes me fear stroking out in the middle of my hard work... With my BP not being high I doubt that is a concern, but it sure feels like it when my warm up has me breathing like I ran a wind sprint...
My shin kind of swelled up right over the spot that is a little misshaped after the run. So I may have to suck it up and get it X-rayed. I just don't want to be told to lay off. I am just getting my mojo and leaning back up. I know, just a stubborn mule aren't I?
My shin kind of swelled up right over the spot that is a little misshaped after the run. So I may have to suck it up and get it X-rayed. I just don't want to be told to lay off. I am just getting my mojo and leaning back up. I know, just a stubborn mule aren't I?
MrKleen73
Legend
Day 26 - observations
I just wanted to mention something this entire weekend including this week so far I have been more aggressive. Just agitated in general. I am not sure if it is related to the RADAR1NE or not but I have kind of flown of the handle over a few things that typically would piss me off but not set me off. I do know that I bumped my dose up to 12 last week. So it could have something to do with that.
As an example of the aggression. Some idiot on the other side of the intersection decided to wait for my light to turn green to step out into the crosswalk. I saw the guy look up at the cross walk sign which was on Do not Cross. He looks at my light turn green, then directly at me then stepped out in front of me pulling a laptop bag, as if I am just not going to drive because he wanted to break the law. So I did what any "normal sane" person would do and accelerated quickly & directly at him making him run out of my way. I even felt a little elated to see his dumb ass scramble to get his laptop bag clear of my path. THAT IS SERIOUSLY OUT OF CHARACTER FOR ME!!!!! I can get extremely agitated when my blood sugar dips low too so could be something there as well.
I have also noticed some mild constipation, I never really notice this unless something is methylated or hard on the liver. Not saying that is the case here since the studies seem to show no negative side effects other than HPTA shutdown. There could definitely be other factors involved here, including the fact I had stomach issues last week.
I plan to bridge into another compound, and start initiating that in the next few days since I only have a week left. I have so many options, I am just not sure what I want to go into for another 4-6 weeks. I have some milder methyls lying around, and also some DermaTr3n. Since I run a cycle much less often now I want to get the bang for my buck out of it. Not saying go crazy on dosing, that is not the plan at all. Contemplating a moderate dose of a mild methyl, and maybe 90-120mg of dermatren.
I just wanted to mention something this entire weekend including this week so far I have been more aggressive. Just agitated in general. I am not sure if it is related to the RADAR1NE or not but I have kind of flown of the handle over a few things that typically would piss me off but not set me off. I do know that I bumped my dose up to 12 last week. So it could have something to do with that.
As an example of the aggression. Some idiot on the other side of the intersection decided to wait for my light to turn green to step out into the crosswalk. I saw the guy look up at the cross walk sign which was on Do not Cross. He looks at my light turn green, then directly at me then stepped out in front of me pulling a laptop bag, as if I am just not going to drive because he wanted to break the law. So I did what any "normal sane" person would do and accelerated quickly & directly at him making him run out of my way. I even felt a little elated to see his dumb ass scramble to get his laptop bag clear of my path. THAT IS SERIOUSLY OUT OF CHARACTER FOR ME!!!!! I can get extremely agitated when my blood sugar dips low too so could be something there as well.
I have also noticed some mild constipation, I never really notice this unless something is methylated or hard on the liver. Not saying that is the case here since the studies seem to show no negative side effects other than HPTA shutdown. There could definitely be other factors involved here, including the fact I had stomach issues last week.
I plan to bridge into another compound, and start initiating that in the next few days since I only have a week left. I have so many options, I am just not sure what I want to go into for another 4-6 weeks. I have some milder methyls lying around, and also some DermaTr3n. Since I run a cycle much less often now I want to get the bang for my buck out of it. Not saying go crazy on dosing, that is not the plan at all. Contemplating a moderate dose of a mild methyl, and maybe 90-120mg of dermatren.
MrKleen73
Legend
HMMMMMMM... Am I boring everyone in here? No responses in a few days... Oh well I am having fun!
WHEW!!!! Just got done with some mid day conditioning. Brisk Walk 1 mile to bayou levy, then hill sprints & reverse walk ups x 30 minutes, then brisk 1 mile walk back to office! TOASTY!!!!!! My legs feel dead, about to crush 8 oz of steak and some rice to charge back up for the workout tonight!
WHEW!!!! Just got done with some mid day conditioning. Brisk Walk 1 mile to bayou levy, then hill sprints & reverse walk ups x 30 minutes, then brisk 1 mile walk back to office! TOASTY!!!!!! My legs feel dead, about to crush 8 oz of steak and some rice to charge back up for the workout tonight!
turff49
Well-known member
Spike in Test levels...
I bet that guy had a story to tell when he got home. And I bet you stayed on his mind all day...lol
I always try to do the right thing, until someone pisses me off doing something obviously wrong, then I'm that ahole also!
I think people have just been super busy...hardly any free time right now.
I bet that guy had a story to tell when he got home. And I bet you stayed on his mind all day...lol
I always try to do the right thing, until someone pisses me off doing something obviously wrong, then I'm that ahole also!
I think people have just been super busy...hardly any free time right now.
MrKleen73
Legend
Yeah, that is the hard part, keeping it in the cool zone when your indignation is completely righteous!
WHEW! I thought I was going to have to step up my game and take up alligator wrestling or something more entertaining.
MrKleen73
Legend
I know for sure that last part is right! I will keep my eye on it now that I know it is a possibility. I was not on the lookout for that so I wasn't ready to catch it. I know something has had me high strung, almost slightly anxious. Who knows what it is but now I know to be on watch for flair ups which will keep things more in check.
jbryand101b
Banned
I feel like I was just in here. Time is flying. Could just be stress bro, there isn't anything really androgenic you're taking.
gagandugan
Active member
You know how they say: it means the product is working. :chairshot:
rascal14
Well-known member
I felt mentally challenged trying to read this lol my brain could not comprehend it at first.
DreamWeaver
Legend
One thing I noticed about Rad so far in an almost uncontrollable libido, strong as I have felt in quite some time.
DreamWeaver
Legend
Yah when the aggression catches you by surprise it's hard to keep it in check. Awareness helps, I'll be watching out for it.
MrKleen73
Legend
Actually by the A:A ratio listed it is as androgenic as Testosterone, the anabolic is just off the charts comparatively. The write up on RAD says it is 90:1 and that test is 1:1 or as you and I are used to seeing it 100:100. However lets be honest that is only like adding 84mg of test a week taking 12mg a day, but on top of my already upper level test from TRT I am sure there is elevated androgenic activity matching between 1500 total test levels knowing how much 150mg a week keeps me at 1000 another 80 would have it in that range. However I think it has to do with stress or blood sugar levels dropping, or just a combination of all those things.
Gotta love it! Wouldn't have hit him obviously, I am not insane but I wanted him to think so.
I think it is a combination of things, no one else has experienced it on RAD to my knowledge.
Watch for it but don't expect it. I think my situation is a combination of things making the perfect storm.
Also my urine is starting to get even darker are we sure this is not liver toxic in anyway? Could be the additional vitamins too...
Getting it done! Great workout last night. Did a complex of high pulls, hang high pulls into dead lifts no letting go of bar. 2 reps each 1 round at 135 one at 185 and 3 rounds at 205. Then did a timed 3 rounds of 33 banded push ups and 33 band rear felt flies and completed it in 2:55 which beat my last time by 14 seconds with a stronger band this time!
Barbell Complex 2 reps each exercise for a total of 5 rounds. Do not take hands off of bar during the 3 exercises during a round. Rest was as short as I could feel recovered enough to do it again.
High Pull - 135, 185, 205, 205, 205
Hang High Pull 135, 185, 205, 205, 205
Snatch Grip Dead Lift 135, 185, 205, 205, 205
Timed Super Set 3 rounds 33 reps each exercise
Banded Push Ups - Red Elite FTS Band x33
Band Pull Aparts - 33 reps
Total Time 2:55 compared to 3:09 last time with lighter band!!!!!
Worked up a crazy sweat!!!!!
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MrKleen73
Legend
RAD is far better than I expected as far as gains are concerned! Yeah these all out explosive movements cause me to sweat so much more than regular BB style lifting. Of course the full body nature of everything is part of it too! Plus 21 sets in a short time doesn't hurt. I also seem to sweat a good bit during the mobility stuff, foam rolling makes me sweat like a mofo. Could be the 80 reps of full body calisthenics in the heroes warm up right before it doing that too.
jbryand101b
Banned
Actually by the A:A ratio listed it is as androgenic as Testosterone, the anabolic is just off the charts comparatively. The write up on RAD says it is 90:1 and that test is 1:1 or as you and I are used to seeing it 100:100. However lets be honest that is only like adding 84mg of test a week taking 12mg a day, but on top of my already upper level test from TRT I am sure there is elevated androgenic activity matching between 1500 total test levels knowing how much 150mg a week keeps me at 1000 another 80 would have it in that range. However I think it has to do with stress or blood sugar levels dropping, or just a combination of all those things.
Gotta love it! Wouldn't have hit him obviously, I am not insane but I wanted him to think so.
I think it is a combination of things, no one else has experienced it on RAD to my knowledge.
Watch for it but don't expect it. I think my situation is a combination of things making the perfect storm.
Also my urine is starting to get even darker are we sure this is not liver toxic in anyway? Could be the additional vitamins too...
Getting it done! Great workout last night. Did a complex of high pulls, hang high pulls into dead lifts no letting go of bar. 2 reps each 1 round at 135 one at 185 and 3 rounds at 205. Then did a timed 3 rounds of 33 banded push ups and 33 band rear felt flies and completed it in 2:55 which beat my last time by 14 seconds with a stronger band this time!
Barbell Complex 2 reps each exercise for a total of 5 rounds. Do not take hands off of bar during the 3 exercises during a round. Rest was as short as I could feel recovered enough to do it again.
High Pull - 135, 185, 205, 205, 205
Hang High Pull 135, 185, 205, 205, 205
Snatch Grip Dead Lift 135, 185, 205, 205, 205
Timed Super Set 3 rounds 33 reps each exercise
Banded Push Ups - Red Elite FTS Band x33
Band Pull Aparts - 33 reps
Total Time 2:55 compared to 3:09 last time with lighter band!!!!!
Worked up a crazy sweat!!!!!
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Hmm I'm going to have to look more into the aa ratio.
A lot of things factor into it.
MrKleen73
Legend
No doubt. If you just pull up RAD 140 Anabolic ratio several things come up.
MrKleen73
Legend
So whatever the aggression was from has gone down now, which is excellent! Did a little walking yesterday nothing major, I had a 13 hour day and my body was feeling like it still needed to recover. Those High Pulls are serious business on the shoulders and upper back!
On to an update, I am looking good this week! I dropped 2 lbs so back down to 215, and looking noticeably leaner from the side. I officially can see the separation lines starting to come in on the sides of my abs. There is still thin layer of fat on top but the shape of each ab on the outside is starting to show as well as a nice divot in between my top two abs.
I just have to say how amazed I am at how much my shoulders seem to be coming up with the addition of power and Olympic moves. I thought Meadows shoulder stuff had them growing before. I think this beats it. I don't ever remember my shoulders looking as full and round as they are right now. It could just be I haven't been this lean in a while, but I really think my entire yoke has just exploded with a much powerful look. I will take a couple pics this weekend so you all can see where I am.
On to an update, I am looking good this week! I dropped 2 lbs so back down to 215, and looking noticeably leaner from the side. I officially can see the separation lines starting to come in on the sides of my abs. There is still thin layer of fat on top but the shape of each ab on the outside is starting to show as well as a nice divot in between my top two abs.
I just have to say how amazed I am at how much my shoulders seem to be coming up with the addition of power and Olympic moves. I thought Meadows shoulder stuff had them growing before. I think this beats it. I don't ever remember my shoulders looking as full and round as they are right now. It could just be I haven't been this lean in a while, but I really think my entire yoke has just exploded with a much powerful look. I will take a couple pics this weekend so you all can see where I am.
MrKleen73
Legend
Oh it is definitely a combination, but I still feel like my shoulders look more developed than ever. It would make sense considering the delts on most Olympic lifters are like big striated pumpkins. There is more of a hill coming up from the shoulder joint where my medial and rear delt rise from the end of the clavicle. I think a good 6 months will give me a lot more knowledge on how well they come up. I know that Snatches make theme look massive for a day or two after them.
My traps are coming up which is wild since I am already yoked. No doubt, the shoulders respond extremely well to power / explosive type movements. At least from what I have been reading, that is the push groups bread and butter.
MrKleen73
Legend
Definitely and the respond really well to over head push type movements. really brings the top and front out, so you can see them much more pronounced from the front.
Funny about the traps, my wife told me the other day it looks like I got breast implants put in my traps. "She was like they are so thick and round right now. They stick out off your back like you have two breast implants tucked into them. Like I can see the whole outline and they just bulge out!"
I was like COOL!!!!
jbryand101b
Banned
I need traps
Hyde
Legend
Push more drugs lol
yates84
Well-known member
Isn't this the answer to every problem?
MrKleen73
Legend
Try some over head carries pushing your shoulder girdle up as high as possible. It is a lot of time under tension for them and also causes a BFR type effect. It is a completely different stimulus to them if you are not used to it.
Ha!
I really never directly work mine unless the program I am doing requires it.
Thanks Yates!
Speaking of traps, this is what I mean by squaring off and being more visible from the front. I am just standing with good posture not raising my scapula to pop them up or anything.
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The angle makes my shoulders look kind of narrow since a little from the side too. This is no pump, just woke up and got out of the shower. They look ridiculous when pumped up right now.
On to the workout from last night. I found out I was doing the Single Arm Thruster wrong last time and doing it correctly this time my weight went up significantly.
Warm Up - 3 minutes quick pace on rowing machine then 5 minutes intervals on Stair Mill
Single Arm Thrusters - 52.5x5, 70x5, 75x5, 80x3, 90x3 - 10 lbs up and +2 reps
DB Bent Over Row - 52.5x5, 90x5, 100x5, 115x3, 125x3 - I was looking huge by the end of this. Swole from front and back!
Reverse Barbell Lunges (reps are for each leg) - 95x10, 135x8, 175x6 - Up 20 lbs from last week but partially due to CNS learning
Single Arm DB Bench Press - 60x10, 70x8, 85x6 - Up 5 lbs, these are serious core work!!!!
I was supposed to do a tire pull after this but my lower back was very tight from all of the single sided work and the back of my knee feels a little hyper extended, and a bit unstable from slipping on the hill the other day. So I didn't want to put it through all of that extension under weight. I will try and do it tonight or sometime this weekend.
So instead I did some beach muscle accessories in between mobility work in the sauna.
Band Pull Aparts with Red Band - 3 sets x33
Single Arm Overhead Triceps Band extensions with Red Band - 3 sets x33
Great workout and HOLY HELL my shoulders were friggin huge last night!!!!
wasme
Legend
Gotta agree there... I need to use an airpump on mine lol
MrKleen73
Legend
My scapula are retracted which shortens the traps from how stretched mine are normally with them where they should be. It feels so weird trying to stand correctly now. I have the upper cross syndrome I am trying to repair. So I have to keep reminding myself to put my scapula in my opposite back pocket. The right posture changes my shoulder girdle so much it is insane. I always thought I was supposed to elongate my front and raise my ribs to have the correct posture but it was as simple as putting my scapula in the opposite back pocket and my chest rises up and my delts take on a very 3d round look where they were quite sloped and rounded before.
Yeah they are really bigger than they have been in a long time. I love how powerful they make me look though!
Hyde
Legend
gagandugan
Active member
I read the same thing - delts and traps.
jbryand101b
Banned
As soon as my neck feels better I'll give those overhead carries a go
yates84
Well-known member
That's what carderine is for! See? More drugs solve everything!Especially if your problem is you don't want a healthy cholesterol profile