Xrkc6x is gonna be ripped as fukc with PES Shift+Alphamax!

[Xrkc6x]

It shouldn't still be that far off baseline

What was PCT?

Nolvadex
40/40/40/20
Abe old formula
DAA
Endosurge pro
Erase pro old formula
Am1racare
Super pct

Then I had OCT

ARA
Abe old formula
Alcar
Tudca

Of course plus staples

 

[Driven2lift]

Nolvadex 40/40/40/20 Abe old formula DAA Endosurge pro Erase pro old formula Am1racare Super pct Then I had OCT ARA Abe old formula Alcar Tudca Of course plus staples

Lots of AI

It shouldn't be that far off baseline this long after.
I would test again in a month to see if they are improving still

Or bring in the old blood work to an endo and say you're not feeling the same

 

[Xrkc6x]

The thing is I'm not feeling like that low so I'm wondering what happened, The Solution said its the effect of a long time low fat diet and for that reason I've revised all my diet, I'm just hoping that this won't affect my cutting...

 

[Driven2lift]

The solution is correct there, if your fats were very low.
necessary for hormone production

what was your average fat intake?

 

[Xrkc6x]

It was between 10 and 20 and only epa and dha so I know now it wasn't enough

 

[Driven2lift]

It was between 10 and 20 and only epa and dha so I know now it wasn't enough

What the hell did you eat lol.
You will retest higher undoubtedly if you up fats, give it 2 months

 

[Xrkc6x]

What the hell did you eat lol.
You will retest higher undoubtedly if you up fats, give it 2 months

I was eating too much proteins and cycling carbs, and no fats.

What do you think about the diet I revised now? I went up in fats and lower in proteins and average of 150-170g carbs a day, calculated in my MBR compared with my maintenance and I think I should be fine now..

Thanks a lot for your time, so low test and high E could be related to effects of low fats diet then?

 

[Driven2lift]

T for sure

Honestly not sure about elevated E
Never seen that correlated to fat intake

 

[Xrkc6x]

T for sure

Honestly not sure about elevated E
Never seen that correlated to fat intake

Thanks for your time, appreciated it.

 

[The Solution]

The solution is correct there, if your fats were very low.
necessary for hormone production

what was your average fat intake?

It was between 10 and 20 and only epa and dha so I know now it wasn't enough

Girls in contest prep do not even get that low
My god....

 

[Xrkc6x]

Girls in contest prep do not even get that low
My god....

I made a big mistake, as you said "trials and errors" now I got it and thanks to your explanation, I made my corrections and I'll stick to the new plan.

Thx again

 

[Xrkc6x]

Update of the day

Woke up and I had my shift
Went to the gym to attack iron and chest

Incline bench 8x11-9-7-5-5-7-9-11
Cables 3x7-9
Chest Press 5x5 heavy
Chest Press 5x12 light

ABS

I felt good and trained hard

Then I had my breakfast (new diet starting today!)

Then I went to give blood and now I'm having my lunch

 

[LiveToLift]

Update of the day

Woke up and I had my shift
Went to the gym to attack iron and chest

Incline bench 8x11-9-7-5-5-7-9-11
Cables 3x7-9
Chest Press 5x5 heavy
Chest Press 5x12 light

ABS

I felt good and trained hard

Then I had my breakfast (new diet starting today!)

Then I went to give blood and now I'm having my lunch

Good update brother. I'm still following just been super busy with work and life. Keep us updated for sure. Interested how this new diet works out for you.

 

[Xrkc6x]

Good update brother. I'm still following just been super busy with work and life. Keep us updated for sure. Interested how this new diet works out for you.

No worries man, I will keep you posted

 

[Xrkc6x]

ok, woke up and took my shift dose boom!

this morning I looked in the mirror and "he" was really polite and nice to me hahahahah "he" told me I looked good

i jsut had my breakfast, second day of my new diet

80g oats
12g select PES
25g almond butter

feel even better with the mood

 

[Xrkc6x]

ok, ready to attack the back

Pull ups wide 4x11-9-7-5

Rowing with single bar 5x11-9-7-5-5

Pulley cables 3x7

Dead lift 6x11-9-7-5-7-9

and booom! back is usually my fav I feel great already lol, I had my 2x scoop pf glycoject and 1/2 pes select + 1tspoon of almond butter read to go

Ill have my high volume in 30mins than Ill fly to the gym

 

[Xrkc6x]

Despite the awful bloodwork results and my mood that went down under my feet for obvious reasons.... (For example I'm cutting and with low T and high E I have my big doubts that I'll be really ripped as fukc like the thread title says... lol)

Anyway

Despite all the above it seems that I have no low T side effects apart the hunger but that could be cause I'm a bit stresses regarding this situation and also cause I need a vacation it seems also that I keep increasing in strength and since I'm only taking shift dunno whaere this strength is coming from

Second day of my new diet was good and I felt relatively good all day, no hunger at all and once arrived in the gym the tiredness I had before totally disappeared

Still see the forsk effect especially on the arms and chest

well guys what to say? I won't give up cause of the bloodwork, I'll try to keep going in my cutting and see how the diet will treat me and i will again have my bloodwork in about 1 month.

 

[Aleksandar37]

Definitely give the diet adjustments a shot and see if that works for you. Also, didn't you just get back from vacation? lol

 

[Xrkc6x]

Definitely give the diet adjustments a shot and see if that works for you. Also, didn't you just get back from vacation? lol

I went to Rome for 2 days cause of my missus bday, than I came back to UK so not really a vacation..... I need peace of mind man, I am stressed and now even more cause I work hard all day in the gym and I've been stick to the diet as always just to know that i messed things up with my cycle last October.....

anyway yes, diet! and see hw it'll go

 

[The Solution]

Despite the awful bloodwork results and my mood that went down under my feet for obvious reasons.... (For example I'm cutting and with low T and high E I have my big doubts t

nothing is more valuable than your health
Why jeopardize it..
Not worth it...

 

[Xrkc6x]

nothing is more valuable than your health
Why jeopardize it..
Not worth it...

I wanted to be ironic but being also honest with myself, I'm not "that happy" exactly because of my health which is not 100% all right

 

[carmaf]

nothing is more valuable than your health
Why jeopardize it..
Not worth it...

The Solution droppin The WISDOM

 

[LiveToLift]

ok, woke up and took my shift dose boom!

this morning I looked in the mirror and "he" was really polite and nice to me hahahahah "he" told me I looked good

i jsut had my breakfast, second day of my new diet

80g oats
12g select PES
25g almond butter

feel even better with the mood

Very kind of "him" lol

 

[Xrkc6x]

morning update

woke up
took my shift
waiting now to have my breakafst

80g oats
12,5g pes select
25g almond butter

I feel good this morning, I had a good sleep

lets see what the day have for me

and in UK its sunny! yes it is!

scale this morning was telling -500g since Sunday

 

[LiveToLift]

morning update

woke up
took my shift
waiting now to have my breakafst

80g oats
12,5g pes select
25g almond butter

I feel good this morning, I had a good sleep

lets see what the day have for me

and in UK its sunny! yes it is!

scale this morning was telling -500g since Sunday

Great work. Oats and select sound delightful right about now. Trying to finish off this shift and get me something to eat!

 

[Xrkc6x]

Great work. Oats and select sound delightful right about now. Trying to finish off this shift and get me something to eat!

that is a nice COMBO man, I love it! I would like to have one of my cheat meals like this --> a big massive bowl full of oats and c&c select proteins or even snickerdoodle!!! BOOM creamy as hell! delicious!

 

[Xrkc6x]

I have a question... based on my bloodwork results and having the T low and E high, I was thinking to start using the Alphamax one week before so instead of doing 4 weeks solo shift, 3 weeks, then start alphamax, what do you think about this?

 

[Xrkc6x]

as usual no hunger today
Thanks to shift

I just had my PreWo and I must say that glycoject (evogen) + select c&c are great!!!

Big shoulders today as below

Incline bench reverse push ups with bar 4x7
Lateral raises cables 4x7 (no rest)
Stand Shoulder Press with bar 8x11-9-7-5-5-7-9-11
Shoulder 90 3x9
ABS
Cardio 30

High volume in 1h then gym!

As stated previously I am thinking to start alphamax one week earlier and wanted to know what you guys think about this.

I'm thinking to do this cause it will help reducing cortisol/estro and raise up T levels

At least this is what it's supposed to do...

 

[Aleksandar37]

In theory it should work I would suggest giving Alphamax and the new diet a go.

 

[Xrkc6x]

In theory it should work I would suggest giving Alphamax and the new diet a go.

yep, diet started on last Monday
Alphamax to start on next Monday

or...

tomorrow lol dunno, what you think?

 

[Aleksandar37]

Well it really seems to be bothering you, so is there any reason why you can't start it today?

 

[Xrkc6x]

Well it really seems to be bothering you, so is there any reason why you can't start it today?

nope...

I am just thinking about "E rebound" related to aramistane... could it be possible?

 

[Aleksandar37]

I know it's hard to be patient and I know this is troubling you, but perhaps you should consider just trying the diet for now. That way you can help nail down what might be causing the test results that you received. Give it a month and then get tested again and see where you are.

Or you can try Alphamax and see if that helps get you going in the right direction. Have you used any other arimistane products recently?

 

[Xrkc6x]

I know it's hard to be patient and I know this is troubling you, but perhaps you should consider just trying the diet for now. That way you can help nail down what might be causing the test results that you received. Give it a month and then get tested again and see where you are.

Or you can try Alphamax and see if that helps get you going in the right direction. Have you used any other arimistane products recently?

Yes right agree.

Yes I used erase pro old and new formula

 

[Aleksandar37]

As long as you've given yourself at least 4 weeks off, there should not be an issue, but I would consider waiting and seeing how the diet works for you.

 

[Xrkc6x]

As long as you've given yourself at least 4 weeks off, there should not be an issue, but I would consider waiting and seeing how the diet works for you.

I'll wait

 

[Xrkc6x]

Btw my strength is up to the roof and I can't explain why based on the fact that my bloodwork was really bad...

Just finished shoulders and I went up with reps and weight so I'm really happy

Again, taking just shift now so can't explain if this is coming from it or dunno...

Diet? Fat increase? That could give me some strength too yes...

 

[Xrkc6x]

morning guys!

shift upon wake up! boom!

breakfast now

80g oats
1/2 scoop of select
25g almond butter

I feel GREAT every time I have this for breakfast! its like it is renewing me lol it must be due to the fats!

diet is going great, 4th day today and I see myself even fuller than before, the scale this morning was saying "-400g" so I don't quite believe that since even yesterday i was loosing weight but hey it could be related to water/stress/dunno anyway I see myself in the mirror better than last week and this is telling me, for now, that my diet is working I am proud of myself and I think you again guys especially The Solution for putting me on the right track.

I have to say something tho, it seems that since I started the new diet, even if I have my scoop of select before going to sleep, I usually wake up 2/3h later hungry.... I am keeping myself away from the kitchen but what should I do? eat something and then come back to sleep or avoid eating something in the middle of the night?

for example, I went to sleep at 11.30pm and I woke up at 3.30 roughly and I was hungry.... should I add something before sleep? but then calories and macros will be different... anyway I learned that we should tune the diet based on body needs, am I right? so based on this I should add something before sleep to keep the hunger down... maybe some almond butter? fats usually help with hunger...

let me know what you think

 

[The Solution]

With how your bloodwork came back i would focus on your health and switch gears
My 2 cents.
Value your health and do not run it into the ground. better to keep it good instead of putting yourself on therapy (Hormone replacement therapy) or anything along those lines the rest of your life.

 

[Xrkc6x]

With how your bloodwork came back i would focus on your health and switch gears
My 2 cents.
Value your health and do not run it into the ground. better to keep it good instead of putting yourself on therapy (Hormone replacement therapy) or anything along those lines the rest of your life.

"switch gears"? I am using just shift nothing else now, could you please be more precise in terms of what would you do?

of course I would like to do everything I can to improve my health, I am dealing already with my endocrinologist that has already provided me with some useful information...

 

[The Solution]

Shift gears = stop cutting it will only make your hormones and blood work worse

Meaning start eating and start gaining

 

[Xrkc6x]

Shift gears = stop cutting it will only make your hormones and blood work worse

Meaning start eating and start gaining

thanks for explaining, I don't think I will stop cutting, probably if needed I can stop my shift but I am waiting for my endocrinologist to tell me what to do, she is obviously aware about all I am doing and about all I did in the past.

I have asked her tbh just yesterday what to do in terms of stop dieting or similar, she told me that this won't make any differences and I just need to be patient and wait or she can prescribe to me something, this is what I would like to avoid, anyway she also looked to my diet and advised to add more saturated fats and red meat that was all.

I am waiting now to have her final examination results and know what would be the best next action.

also she is not even that "worried" about it.... I am lol

 

[JudoJosh]

Sorry, I just got your PM bud. Did you get everything straightened out already?

 

[Xrkc6x]

Sorry, I just got your PM bud. Did you get everything straightened out already?

no need to be sorry anything you could add it will be welcome

also just to make it clear, I don't feel bad, I have no sides, and personally I don't really wanna stop dieting/cutting just to get more weight while this won't be beneficial based on what the endoc told me.

 

[Xrkc6x]

Sorry, I just got your PM bud. Did you get everything straightened out already?

here we go so you have the test results on your hand

TEST results:

Cholesterol TOTAL 218 mg/dl (140-220)
Triglycerides 44mg/dl (60-160)
HDL 75mg/dl (30-70)
LDL 134mg/dl (up to 150)
Risk idnex is LOW 2.9 (3.5-4.8)

TESTOSTERONE 2.48 ng/ml (1.7-7.8)
Cortisol 24.7mcg/dl (9-23) --> i was fasted and i had no sleep
SHBG 48.7nmoli/L (9-55)
IGF-1 128ng/ml (82-225)
GH 0.098ng/ml (0.004-1.4)

LH 1.65 uUI/ml. (1.20-8.60)
FT3 2.34 pg/ml (2.5-3.9)
FT4 8.57 pmol/L (7-18)
TSH 2.64 ulU/ml. (0.34-5)
FSH 9.53uUl/ml. (1.30-19.30)

Prostate 0.21ng/ml (0-4)
Prolactin 9.59 ng/ml (2.6-13.1)
17 Beta Estradiol 40.00pg/ml. (<20)
Total Estrogen 28 (50-150)

also I have found different info about the total estrogens and 17 beta estradiol and it is not clear to me yet if the total should be low and/or the 17beta? or both? also I cannot explain why the total is low and beta17 high, there must be some calculation, I will ask my endocrinologist tho.

thanks again to everyone for looking into this

 

[JudoJosh]

Have you used exogenous hormones in the past (PD/DS, AAS, etc)

Of so how recently?

Bloodwork doesn't look bad. Test is low but within range so not too much of a concern. If anything you could try DAA to help bump it back up a bit. If you recently came off a cycle and had a questionable PCT, then that could explain the lowish T. Just a slow recovery.

As for the E, I'm not too sure about those results. I would have to do a bit of searching to see what exactly they mean.

Did a doc order these labs? If so, what did he say?

 

[Xrkc6x]

Have you used exogenous hormones in the past (PD/DS, AAS, etc)

Of so how recently?

Bloodwork doesn't look bad. Test is low but within range so not too much of a concern. If anything you could try DAA to help bump it back up a bit. If you recently came off a cycle and had a questionable PCT, then that could explain the lowish T. Just a slow recovery.

As for the E, I'm not too sure about those results. I would have to do a bit of searching to see what exactly they mean.

Did a doc order these labs? If so, what did he say?

October - December 2014 i ran anavar and proviron going from 60mg a day of anavar to 130mg for the last 2 weeks of the cycle.
PCT was
nolva 40/40/40/20/20
DAA
erase pro
abe
aram1care
+ staples lipid stabil liver stabil MN

then OCT

ara
alcar
endosurge turbo
DAA
ad-3

plus taples

when I came off the cycle my test was even worse and I was feeling shut down.

I did these tests cause I went to Rome and my endocrinologist is in Rome and she is a really close friend of my family so I did all the tests for free there in Rome so I asked to check everything since in UK it is really difficult to have these tests done.

she is aware about everything I did and everything I am doing.

as i said she was not that concerned, and she offered to prescribe me aromasin to be back on track fast since aromasin its a type I AI so it will increase the T too and IFG-1 as well, also will decrease estrogens since it is a suicidal AI so no even rebound effect in the end of the therapy and it won't affect my cholesterol levels, so for her it is really easy, or add some saturated fats/red meat and wait a loooong time to have my levels back in track.

she prescribed it at 12,5 eod and tune the dose after 1/2 weeks depending on side effects.

that is what she said.

 

[Xrkc6x]

while I am waiting for JudoJosh

I just had my preWO

glycoject x 2 scoops
select PES 1/2 scoop

feel good and ready for guns today

Triceps

French press with dumbbells 7x11-9-7-5-5-7-9
inverse lat with single cable 3x9
dumbbells incline 90 and rotate 3x9

Biceps

Stand Curling 7x11-9-7-5-5-7-9
hammer curl on incline bench 3x9
cables double biceps 3x9

30 cardio incline 15% 5km/h

ready steady go

 

[Xrkc6x]

morning all guys

yesterday night I took 1 more pill of shift before going to sleep and I slept like a baby without waking up hungry

this morning I had a great surprise on the mirror, despite my high E and low T my body, dunno "how", is reacting really well to shift, I have increased fats and carbs and decreased proteins as you know since Monday (started new diet) and I am leaner and more full, I can see my "4 pack" and looking forward to see my 6 one so this is to say that even with more fats and carbs its working like a charm!

in terns of "data" today i'm on 69.1kg and yesterday i was 69.6! is it draining me? lol

I had my breakfast now and looking forward to tonight LEGS DAY!

 

[Xrkc6x]

so I am rady for legs day today

Legs

Squat 3x7
Squat 3x7 wide
Multipower 3x7 squat narrow feet
Multipower 3x7 squat forward feet
leg extension 5x7
Lounges with bar 2x11
Lounges with bar 2x7
sit leg curl 6x11-9-7-5-7-9
Calf stand 4x20
Calf sit 4x20

jsut had my pre wo and can't wait.

feel ok today, no hunger as usual since I started SHIFT and I can see that my body is shifting..... again despite of T and E, it is shifting...