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EvoMuse Presents: Epitome™

I'm not shaving....no way.

For a harcore endomorph like me, and still holding close to 210, this is nothing short of unbelievable. Last time I got near this, I had to drop to almost 190, and the muscle loss was depressing.
 
dsade said:
I'm not shaving....no way.

For a harcore endomorph like me, and still holding close to 210, this is nothing short of unbelievable. Last time I got near this, I had to drop to almost 190, and the muscle loss was depressing.
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based on your posts your appetite is shot...how many calories are you consuming per day?
 
GNO said:
based on your posts your appetite is shot...how many calories are you consuming per day?
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I would estimate right now about 1700, and that's straining my discipline. Been relying on shakes with GlycoMyx.
 
I'm sitting here debating a refeed tonight, and really just completely apathetic towards the idea.

Might go have a few beers though, with Steak and Eggs.
 
dsade said:
I would estimate right now about 1700, and that's straining my discipline. Been relying on shakes with GlycoMyx.
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Wow, your pretty close to my intake and you got 55lbs on me. Your staying at a pretty constant weight and getting leaner or dropping on the scale as well?
 
I started on the 6th of March, afternoon dose, between 20-21% body fat and around 217lbs.
 
NoAddedHmones said:
pepper your angus for sweating, lots of sweating.
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I'm burning up already...it's 47 degrees.

I'll probably put off the refeed until tomorrow and have some seafood fetuccine.
 
Dsade it looks like you have lost a good amount since the last pic.

Question about the beta portal shots. I just got some to try. Empty stomach or not? And how long does it last?

Just got my wife on epitome so I'll update your loss after she's on it for a week or so.
 
blurryimage said:
Dsade it looks like you have lost a good amount since the last pic. Question about the beta portal shots. I just got some to try. Empty stomach or not? And how long does it last? Just got my wife on epitome so I'll update your loss after she's on it for a week or so.
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Devostated my portal never arrived :(
 
Tried to have a cheat meal last night. Got me a big ol' primo meat stuffed crust pizza, intent on fully destroying it.

One slice. That's all I could manage. The rest now sits mockingly in the chill chest. There's 20 bux well spent.

Epitome truly is the perfect name.
 
ThaPeoplesChamp said:
Tried to have a cheat meal last night. Got me a big ol' primo meat stuffed crust pizza, intent on fully destroying it. One slice. That's all I could manage. The rest now sits mockingly in the chill chest. There's 20 bux well spent. Epitome truly is the perfect name.
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Man based on all these updates you pumping out i expect a sub 10% shredded animal in a few
Months. Post consistent photos of your progress!
 
NoAddedHmones said:
Man based on all these updates you pumping out i expect a sub 10% shredded animal in a few Months. Post consistent photos of your progress!
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I wouldn't even know what that looks like. Anxious to find out. I'll post everything when I'm done, I don't like posting interim pictures.

Okay what the hell, I'll post one that shows a bit of definition

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that showed up a couple weeks into epitome.
 
ThaPeoplesChamp said:
I wouldn't even know what that looks like. Anxious to find out. I'll post everything when I'm done, I don't like posting interim pictures. Okay what the hell, I'll post one that shows a bit of definition <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=117136"/> that showed up a couple weeks into epitome.
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Good job man, looking jacked. Its pretty clear epitome is great for people with higher bf %s.
 
What's everyone taking for a fat burner? Just curious, if there's anything I ought to have. I've got Dexaprine XR, it's decent, energy wise. I can't say it ever killed appetite or contributed a large amount to fat loss though. Used it for a few years now.
 
ThaPeoplesChamp said:
What's everyone taking for a fat burner? Just curious, if there's anything I ought to have. I've got Dexaprine XR, it's decent, energy wise. I can't say it ever killed appetite or contributed a large amount to fat loss though. Used it for a few years now.
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I'm currently using EU Norcodrene, no yohimbine in it and feels much better. My wife's using dexaprine xr in the morning and US Norcodrene in the afternoon with her Epitome and she likes that.
 
ThaPeoplesChamp said:
What's everyone taking for a fat burner? Just curious, if there's anything I ought to have. I've got Dexaprine XR, it's decent, energy wise. I can't say it ever killed appetite or contributed a large amount to fat loss though. Used it for a few years now.
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I'm over fat burners, the last one I used religiously ( and Matt can attest to this claim ) was HEAT stack...I ****ing loved that product. I got pretty good results with all the versions of Alpha T-2 as well.

Nowadays I just have a cup of coffee or a monster zero ultra if I feel the need or my pre w/o. I do love my preworkout :)
 
DSADE,

Sorry if this has been discussed elsewhere in this post but I tried to start using Epitome this week, 2 caps a day as directed, and my cordio-respiratory endurance took a nose dive. Like significantly..... what's interesting is my heart rate at any given workload stayed about the same etc, its just me RPE was significantly different. Like it felt like to complete the same amount of cardio at the same workload was completely draining. Any thoughts? Thanks
 
Mr.50 said:
DSADE,

Sorry if this has been discussed elsewhere in this post but I tried to start using Epitome this week, 2 caps a day as directed, and my cordio-respiratory endurance took a nose dive. Like significantly..... what's interesting is my heart rate at any given workload stayed about the same etc, its just me RPE was significantly different. Like it felt like to complete the same amount of cardio at the same workload was completely draining. Any thoughts? Thanks
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When are you dosing? Unless you are taking preworkout, there should be little to no effect on cardio performance.
 
Yeah its very strange because most of my dosing has been earlier in the day. Maybe there is something else effecting it but for the life of me that was the only thing I can think of that has changed this week
 
Are you glycogen depleted? Time for a refeed?
 
I'm sure I missed it a while back, but has anyone been running Epitome with Cardiotryx?
 
That's an interesting question and the timing is right since I can eat big tomorrow for Easter. I have taken a new approach to my training that most will probably not agree with. Since I have a few injuries that keep me from doing too much high impact cardio I do lots of really long relatively low intensity cardio (maybe 65%-70%) interspersed with about 45 minutes of the real deal (boxing training). So basically the idea is to train more like an endurance athlete. Its been great for fat loss and eating just about whatever the heck I want.... but maybe with that said I could still somehow have done such a volume of activity that I am carbohydrate depleted. Guess I am going to have to play around with this.
 
Mr.50 said:
That's an interesting question and the timing is right since I can eat big tomorrow for Easter. I have taken a new approach to my training that most will probably not agree with. Since I have a few injuries that keep me from doing too much high impact cardio I do lots of really long relatively low intensity cardio (maybe 65%-70%) interspersed with about 45 minutes of the real deal (boxing training). So basically the idea is to train more like an endurance athlete. Its been great for fat loss and eating just about whatever the heck I want.... but maybe with that said I could still somehow have done such a volume of activity that I am carbohydrate depleted. Guess I am going to have to play around with this.
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Let me know how it goes tomorrow and after your next training session.
 
Took 1 cap epitome and 4 defuse heading to easter dinner.... Will take notes and report! It's refeed day. I'm flat AF and holding water in lower belly so bad. Not sure how to correct
 
So I took 1 portal shot about an hour ago. IT TASTES LIKE CAT PISS. buts it's a nice relaxed high, so far and I like it. Wife has been taking epitome for almost a week. I'll update on her a little later this week. Happy Easter.
 
Wow used two Epitome and a total of 3 Slintensity yesterday. Ate at quite a surplus. Woke up today no bloat, veiny and happy.
 
blurryimage said:
So I took 1 portal shot about an hour ago. IT TASTES LIKE CAT PISS. buts it's a nice relaxed high, so far and I like it. Wife has been taking epitome for almost a week. I'll update on her a little later this week. Happy Easter.
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So how do you know what cat piss tastes like? Not that I'm judging you....
 
dsade said:
So how do you know what cat piss tastes like? Not that I'm judging you....
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Hahaha I knew someone was going to ask... So this one time at body building camp. Lol no, I had a cat once and it would spray it's male mating spray in stuff and that's what the smell reminds me of. This stuff is pretty strong. It's pretty fun when you want a relaxing evening though. Jacks up my balance pretty good.

Matt. When are you getting more epitome in stock? Like 6 weeks? I have friends interested. I stocked up with 7 bottles so I'm good for a bit.
 
Mr.50 said:
DSADE,

Sorry if this has been discussed elsewhere in this post but I tried to start using Epitome this week, 2 caps a day as directed, and my cordio-respiratory endurance took a nose dive. Like significantly..... what's interesting is my heart rate at any given workload stayed about the same etc, its just me RPE was significantly different. Like it felt like to complete the same amount of cardio at the same workload was completely draining. Any thoughts? Thanks
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Go for a refeed....was experiencing the same thing.

I'm also using Slintensity for heavy carbs/big meals.
 
My wife told me last night she's been confusing Ab. Ammo and Epitome, taking Epitome before bed instead of ammo ?

I'm assuming that's not overly worrisome so long as it's corrected ?
 
chedapalooza said:
Would slintensity be beneficial for large high fat/high protein meals?
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No.

Only for high carb intake.

However if your high fat meal is a cheat or pushing you toward excess calories, Defuse is beneficial before that.
 
ThaPeoplesChamp said:
My wife told me last night she's been confusing Ab. Ammo and Epitome, taking Epitome before bed instead of ammo &#55357;&#56881;

I'm assuming that's not overly worrisome so long as it's corrected ?
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Nothing dangerous about it; just doesn't have as much of an impact since you're asleep.

But yeah, would be interested to hear feedback whenever she corrects it to see if she notices anything.

I'd personally be annoyed at trying to sleep with the extra bodyheat lol. However, my wife always complains about being cold, so heck, maybe that's what I should just do to her lol.
 
Thanks to the incessant hyping in here and a moment of weakness, I have two bottles of this headed my way. I h8 you all. (Gives MWB the stink eye)
 
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