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Top 10 health supplements of 2014

Lol its my opinion. Sorry that I prefer those two? Nothing against AP just didn't work best for me. And I don't need a study to tell me that
 
USPlabsRep said:
Everyone wants "studies"..,,produce studies and now the product that's not studied is king.......bodybuilding should be called political muscle building....
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Sour much?

1. OG slintensity
2. OG slin sane

Never tried recompadrol
 
Hey guys let's not get hostile in here, everyone has their own opinions on a product and that's perfectly fine. Sometimes anecdotal is better than factual
 
I understand that, but to say "x has a study so it's the best" is foolish

science is late to the party with almost everything in supplementation
 
Swolbraham said:
I understand that, but to say "x has a study so it's the best" is foolish

science is late to the party with almost everything in supplementation
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studies are like professional witnesses in a trial, if money is right you can find one to say anything you want.
 
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Lol 10 exercised men is hardly a study.

Personally, I tried it and I had to go pound severely sugary carbs to stop feeling hypoglycemic.
 
The Engineer said:
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Lol 10 exercised men is hardly a study.

Personally, I tried it and I had to go pound severely sugary carbs to stop feeling hypoglycemic.
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what's the alternative? 0 Trained men.

And Actually, the smaller the number the harder to find significance.

And that's a great personal account of the products effect on you...
 
I like AP, it works for me. Just like Recompadrol, Matador, Slinshot (oldie) work too. Chit, even high-loading cassia cinnamon works.... Please, let´s not turn this topic in a company political discussion...
 
thebigt said:
studies are like professional witnesses in a trial, if money is right you can find one to say anything you want.
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Not University studies like ours...

Even with Private research, your statement holds no value in truth. Research unlike posting a statement like you did anonymously has repercussions.
 
USPlabsRep said:
Being we created the category (Or for the haters, we made it popular) in Sports Nutrition, I'm rather proud and happy that it lead to other companies in the space..
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Are you proud of PRIME ? :D
Claimed to give permanent muscles ... :D

i really like PowerFULL and Cissus but prime, pink magic and AP was waste of time AND money .

I dosed PRIME up to 16 or 18 caps at day (suggested by USPLABS rep) and the only thing i liked was digestive support. My stomach never felt better. But thats due to Chebulic Myrobalan found in Prime
 
Danes said:
Are you proud of PRIME ? :D
Claimed to give permanent muscles ... :D

i really like PowerFULL and Cissus but prime, pink magic and AP was waste of time AND money .

I dosed PRIME up to 16 or 18 caps at day (suggested by USPLABS rep) and the only thing i liked was digestive support. My stomach never felt better. But thats due to Chebulic Myrobalan found in Prime
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Yeah, Prime was a big disappointment for me 2 years ago when I used 3 bottles on a run for my Powerlifting Nationals meet and saw no results in strength or lean mass whatsoever.
We should mention Jack3d too, that was the CHIT !! Really loved the OG version of it (yeah I know we´re talking about "healthy" supplements but oh well lol)
 
AP actually houses the compound berberine which is one of, if not the, best GDA for healthy individuals as far as the research goes. Plus it independently promotes fat loss and satiety. So yes, AP is a pretty damn good GDA
 
thebigt said:
studies are like professional witnesses in a trial, if money is right you can find one to say anything you want.
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craze has a study...... Lol. Studies are good but surely not the end all be all.... Especially in this industry.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
AP actually houses the compound berberine which is one of, if not the, best GDA for healthy individuals as far as the research goes. Plus it independently promotes fat loss and satiety. So yes, AP is a pretty damn good GDA
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Agreed here. Understanding each ingredient in supplements is key.

For GDAs people expect muscle fullness during a carb meal and thus disregard ones that do not. I thought the same until I realised GDAs are best used on a cut in regards to priming the body for fat use, AMPK, etc.
 
Philosophy said:
Agreed here. Understanding each ingredient in supplements is key. For GDAs people expect muscle fullness during a carb meal and thus disregard ones that do not. I thought the same until I realised GDAs are best used on a cut in regards to priming the body for fat use, AMPK, etc.
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GDAs have soooo many functions which they are so diverse, hit so many pathways, and have so many health benefits

Hence its own category and not well know outside the forums.

Otherwise they are just sports supplements sitting in a store with a more then likely undereducated associate unable to explain benefits in a way where you can market to general Population and athletes
 
Burn 24>all other gda's. Recompadrol would be a solid second.

I too never got much from AP. Plus you have no idea how much berberine is in it.
 
xhrr said:
Burn 24>all other gda's. Recompadrol would be a solid second.

I too never got much from AP. Plus you have no idea how much berberine is in it.
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Agreed, burn 24 is king. I almost view recompadrol as more of a non-stim fat loss product (and a very good one at that) than as a GDA.

As for AP, berberine isn't an expensive extraction so I'd wager there's plenty
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Agreed, burn 24 is king. I almost view recompadrol as more of a non-stim fat loss product (and a very good one at that) than as a GDA. As for AP, berberine isn't an expensive extraction so I'd wager there's plenty
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can burn 24 be taken on cycle or during pct?
 
USPlabsRep said:
Not University studies like ours...

Even with Private research, your statement holds no value in truth. Research unlike posting a statement like you did anonymously has repercussions.
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what are you saying? if you are wanting me to believe that funding has no impact on studies, i am not willing to take that leap of faith.

repercussions? surely you jest....i feel this way about ALL studies, not singling you out, my friend...it is an opinion, no need for threats, lol.
 
thebigt said:
what are you saying? if you are wanting me to believe that funding has no impact on studies, i am not willing to take that leap of faith.

repercussions? surely you jest....i feel this way about ALL studies, not singling you out, my friend...it is an opinion, no need for threats, lol.
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On what evidence do you base your opinion on?

No one was threatened. You are misinterpreting the sentence...
 
Danes said:
Are you proud of PRIME ? :D
Claimed to give permanent muscles ... :D

i really like PowerFULL and Cissus but prime, pink magic and AP was waste of time AND money .

I dosed PRIME up to 16 or 18 caps at day (suggested by USPLABS rep) and the only thing i liked was digestive support. My stomach never felt better. But thats due to Chebulic Myrobalan found in Prime
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Supplements don't have a 100% success rates...Its the nature of the game
 
USPlabsRep said:
On what evidence do you base your opinion on?

No one was threatened. You are misinterpreting the sentence...
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i base my opinion on the fact that man is by nature corruptable, greedy and willing to sell out for a buck....and studies are only as good as the people running them!!!

studies are expensive, usually if you follow the money trail you can assume the outcome in advance.
 
Personally, GDAs work better than fat burners with regards to fat loss as far as I'm concerned. I injest a bit over 100g carbs (mostly from steel cut oats and vegetables), with 35-40g of them being fibre, so I definitely am on the low side with regards to carb intake. Yeah i take a massive amount of GDAs, including on an empty stomach, and have found them to be highly effective.

How much berberine is a strong dose? I'm currently taking about 1g
 
thebigt said:
i base my opinion on the fact that man is by nature corruptable, greedy and willing to sell out for a buck....and studies are only as good as the people running them!!!

studies are expensive, usually if you follow the money trail you can assume the outcome in advance.
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A limited thought to group all into one. In a real life scenario without a screen name, in verbal debate It would be a difficult argument. Online, I always concede to ignorance.
 
thebigt said:
i base my opinion on the fact that man is by nature corruptable, greedy and willing to sell out for a buck....and studies are only as good as the people running them!!!

studies are expensive, usually if you follow the money trail you can assume the outcome in advance.
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while that's a valid opinion I strongly disagree. Some people are completely credible and I work in a couple of these studies. Sometimes the supps don't do jack **** or have a high p value. Honestly my director publishes them even if it is **** results
 
jp_x_type said:
Personally, GDAs work better than fat burners with regards to fat loss as far as I'm concerned. I injest a bit over 100g carbs (mostly from steel cut oats and vegetables), with 35-40g of them being fibre, so I definitely am on the low side with regards to carb intake. Yeah i take a massive amount of GDAs, including on an empty stomach, and have found them to be highly effective. How much berberine is a strong dose? I'm currently taking about 1g
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In on bolus or throughout the day?

I believe 500mg doses are recommended up to 3 times per day.
 
Quads_of_Stee said:
while that's a valid opinion I strongly disagree. Some people are completely credible and I work in a couple of these studies. Sometimes the supps don't do jack **** or have a high p value. Honestly my director publishes them even if it is **** results
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can you honestly say there is no price you could not be bought...if so then a little shopping around will find someone who can be, imo.
 
EBF Inc said:
yes that's correct and if stomach issues the studies dropped it down to 300
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Never have noticed any issues. But I tend not to with many supplements as others do.
 
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